Hi,
I am currently on the Darky v7.0 and I wanted to flash to 7.0.2
Do I just copy the rom in the sd folder and flash using rom manager just as i did before?
or do i have to switch back to stock 2.1 (rogers) and then flash 7.0.2?
This will be my second time flashing.
Please advice.
Thanks
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
peachpuff said:
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
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This is the thread and the link to it. it does say "No wipe".
[ROM] Official Darky Port v7.0.2 No Wipe]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880859&page=53
so does it mean its ok to install over 7.0?
does no wipe mean i dont have to wipe/remove the rom before flashing a new one?
Thanks
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
Phateless said:
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
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samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
Pirateghost said:
samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
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Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
Phateless said:
Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
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you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
Pirateghost said:
you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
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That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
Phateless said:
That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
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most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
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most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
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So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
Phateless said:
So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
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yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
Pirateghost said:
yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
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Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
Phateless said:
Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
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the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
Pirateghost said:
the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
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At least with HTC the kernel is part of the Rom and IS included in nandroids.
Greetings!
Heres the deal:
Samsung Captivate
Rooted with Clockwork via recovery in system/bin without signature req.
ROM manager - Backing current system rom
Titanium - Backing all app + system data
Im deciding to flash cognition 4.1 for specific reasons. One being that the ROM is based from UCKB1 (correct me if this is not the case)
Ive flashed the more difficult cm7 ROM as a first time flash (the very first rom I've flashed)
Back to stock froyo rooted bloat removed yaddi yadda
I understand I have to put the new cognition 4.1 onto the sd card and flash via clockwork...right?
Heres the question:
If I, for whatever reasons, Feel I want to go back into the ROM (system) I have running on the captivate currently...
Flash back to stock with Odin
Root
From here (2.1 eclair), Can I use the backup I have saved from ROM Manager to receive stock UCKB1 froyo? without having to use KIES for the update?
be harsh be nice idc
thanks!
-regards
Back To Stock
Yes,
As long as you first flash back to out of the box stock (typically with Odin) before doing so.
ROM Manager creates an image of your entire current platform when you perform a backup. Flashing the image back via restore image, you need to basically undo all the customizations added through flashing a custom ROM.
Hope this helps...
Peace-
Liv33viL
Liv33viL said:
ROM Manager creates an image of your entire current platform when you perform a backup. Flashing the image back via restore image, you need to basically undo all the customizations added through flashing a custom ROM.
Hope this helps...
Peace-
Liv33viL
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restore image?
From rom manager correct?
Hi there,
Not long ago i got a P970 and proceeded to root it and install CWM on my device using an all in one solution from this site, unfortunately it didn't seem to create a backup of the stock bootloader and i am unable to perform updates to the device as they all try to boot in to the stock bootloader to finish the update process which is ofc missing, does anyone have a copy of the stock bootloader for the P970, incase its of relevance i'm using one in the UK on the Orange network
I thank you in advance for any replies
Bump anyone got a copy of the bootloader?
If you flash stock vanilla rom it will overwrite CWM with stock.
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If you flash stock vanilla rom it will overwrite CWM with stock.
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Couple of small issues is that i dont want to lose everything i've installed and setup so far and the only images i can find of the stock ROM's are .kdz files which use the LG tools to flash and those require me to be able to boot to the standard software update tool found on the phone which doesn't seem to work with CWM installed as i can't do any OTA updates either.
dude, I already answered to you by pm. this cannot be saved, you have to flash again to recover the standard loader. AND, you don't have to boot or something else except going in s/w mode. just backup your apps / datas with 3nd party app then restore them after the flash. standard recovery is absolutely uneeded and is even useless. you might restore full datas with cwm by going into the advanced menu.
im using motrola milstone a853 my friends mobile when i took wit him it was rooted and running cm7 i flashed Singapore froyo sbf rom and wana install custom recovery flashed sbf recovery when i try to in stall recovery from sd card it shows installing update veryfing update package and cant find update binary and rebbots to stock recovery again i tryd minimod by fufu openrecovery .etc
If I understand you, you'd like to install a custom recovery, right? If thats what you want, then you need the original vulnerable recovery (which might been overwritten when you flashed the stock froyo rom) first. Follow THIS guide and it has anything you need.
I am trying to get a stock rom on my phone so i can naturally instal ota updates. My device is not on custom rom and is still running a stock rom but I haven't been able to update with ota updates because of cwm, which is why I'm doing this. Will I need to wipe the data partitions even though i'm on stock already?
alhal1 said:
I am trying to get a stock rom on my phone so i can naturally instal ota updates. My device is not on custom rom and is still running a stock rom but I haven't been able to update with ota updates because of cwm, which is why I'm doing this. Will I need to wipe the data partitions even though i'm on stock already?
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I think all u need do i flash the stock recovery for your rom. OTA should then work.