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I was reading about someone using a phone such as wm fuze as a bluetooth gps receiver. After doing some search I found some apps for both fuze and captivate. Gps2blue for fuze and bluetooth gps provider for android. The fuze app is supposed to send gps info from the fuze to the captivate which uses its program to receive. However I can't seem to get them to link via bluetooth. Has anyone tried this or got it to work? My gps isn't completely broken but here soon, I am found to need reliable gps.so this would work great.
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wow...i actually have a brand new Fuze sitting around under my bed not being used. This would be pretty sweet. Look forward to see what comes out of this.
I also have an iphone 3g with broken wifi....if the wifi worked, i was just going to keep that in my truck and use Mobile AP and connect the 3g to wifi and use google maps on the 3g. Could you not do the same for the Fuze??
probably, but with only a 200 mb plan, I'm trying to use copilot on my phone and limit data usage. Of course with captivate alone. Gps is hit or miss. Mainly miss
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Ok, so I found a way using gpsgate on a wm phone. Works on both my fuze and my tilt. Must say I really love how accurate my tracks are now using a phone from more than 2 years ago. Kinda sux having to resort to 2 phones for accurate tracks, but I love google maps saying my accuracy is 1~4 meters accurate. Even works flawlessly with copilot.
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how about some setup instructions for someone who has not used windows mobile for more than 5 minutes?? haha i have had the fuze forever, but never used it. tips like installing the app, setting it up, etc etc
or since i have an unlimited data plan, what about just using the fuze as a gps anyway? How would that work?
I used my fuze all the time, but I only used garmin on it. Im going to try and find some information on setting up and I'll edit here. I found a similar post and after googling how to do it, I remem hearing the program used to do out was posted in that. Gpsgate is like a 2week trail, but I think its 15 bucks. So hopefully froyo will fix come and I'll know if I'm buying full version.
How to:
Fuze setup:
on the fuze internet explorer, go to www.franson.com where u can download the cab (same as apk for android, but for wm). Install the file. During the first run you should go through a setup wizard. On the first screen it has some search options, I only clicked wired and built in gps. It should find on com 4, whatever it finds i don't think out matters, as long as it finds it. Next is the share setup. I used option 2 and 3, share with nmea and share over bluetooth, I know bluetooth is needed, not sure about the other. Next hit finish. Of course make sure bluetooth is on and set to discoverable. Also so that phone doesn't shut off while navigating, go to power settings and make sure the phone doesn't turn because I'm petty sure if it does it will stop sending gps information (do by going to power settings) That's it for fuze.
For android:
I think under developer settings, allow mock positions need to be enabled. Download bluetooth gps provider off market. On it go to preferences and search for gps provider. Find it device, select it and then back to main screen and hit start, if it fist gps has locked it should work. Should show how many data locked and what not here.
Apps like gps test won't show locked stats but will put accuracy up. Way its done, not sure of how accurate that value is. Seems pretty well.
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I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
You could be standing indoors or somewhere where there's not a good enough GPS signal, or you may have location services switched off.
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I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
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You are not alone. I started a thread where I called it =garbage. I don't want to generalize just in case it's a hardware issue on my part but it always shows my location in a different city and when using the GPS on maps it seems to always be trying to catchup.
GPS settings
How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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I believe you're right about the meaning of the radius of the circle in the stock map app. But, it probably isn't as obvious in other kinds of apps that use GPS.
I'm gonna shoot ms an email regarding this...and I suggest that anyone else that agrees that this is less than ideal do the same. Its too late to have them do anything about it in the upcoming January update, but if they hear enough complaints about it, maybe they'll do something about it in the update after that one.
Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Jim, if the battery on my HD7 were more robust, I would agree with you. But it's not...so I don't. I would like the option to utilize only tower/WiFi triangulation...and to be able to enable my GPS only when I need my location to be precisely determined.
You are right...it does just work...which was more than I could say for my Vibrant's GPS for quite a while. But, access to any setting that could help me milk some more life out of my battery is access that I want.
GPS ?!?
I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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How wide is the circle around the dot? It may be using the Cell tower / WiFi to determine your position and therefore be very inaccurate.
What country are you in?
I guess it's possible that the actual maps are wrong and are showing the incorrect map overlay for your country?
after reading this thread i tested my HD7 with the bing map and its accurate, showed me where i am i changed to aerial map to confirm it...
i believe the data (3G) have to be connected, i am on unlimited data plan so its on all the time, wifi do not work as i tested with the wifi after that and it showed my location far away from my home...
this should fix everyones issue Go to setting and select find my phone check box both opitions and now try bing maps again. you will also notice well driving bing maps will keep a better track well your moving
did that and it now works perfectly, previously it was over a mile off my actual location
Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
pongpatara said:
Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
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Mate, this issue was happen to me in Bangkok too,
I try many apps to fix this, but the result was same..
I see my location was stand in somewhere on the sea at Europe.
That's suck...
Make them REAL MS !!
hd7 no gps please help
gps dosent work on google maps when i flash back to old rom gps works
As far as I know location services do not use GPS exclusively. It uses GSM cell and tower info as well to speed up approximation and let enough time for GPS satellite locking. GSM cell data is stored in internet databases (do not know where and how) but if there is a mislocated tower (e.g.i Thailand) your location might be determined in a wrong way.
To keep it simple M$ hidden this mixed mode location service. I don't know what happens if you switch off location service in settings and use a GPS application for locating yourself. Is there a difference? Might be.
Hi everybody, new to the forums and new to droid - I recently upgraded from the Propel to the Captivate and so far I am loving it. With all the reviews and forums I read before deciding to buy most of my answers have been answered, but not all.
My phone was loaded with 2.2 and when I registered it with Samsung it showed a build date of feb/11 so I'm hoping that my phone has alot of the big fixes already loaded. I have noticed that the gps code listed on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732030
Does not work on my phone, I enter *#*#1472365#*# and the last * just clears the code out of my dialer... no sub-menu, no options, nothing. Any ideas how to do gps testing?
Other question, I spend alot of time off the cell network and I need a gps that works - which app would be good to use? Searching the app store there is quite a few ranging in price, most seem to have mixed reviews. Google does nothing for me since it needs the network to pull up the maps. Basically when I load up the gps it shows me in a sea of nothingness and trying to scroll the map gives me an error 'need network connection' type of message.
Also, I've noticed what looks like 2 small led's one the face of my phone, just to the left of the speaker and the ugly logo. Are these notification leds or something else?
I don't plan on rooting or flashing my phone for a while... yes yes I know, stock sucks, but like I said I was using the Samsung Propel a couple days ago and now the Captivate - I've got alot to learn and alot to get used to before I switch things around. Yes, one day I do want to switch off of stock software just not right now, thanks for the suggestion though. lol
Model SGHI897
Firmware 2.2
Baseband I897UCKB1
Kernel 2.6.32.9
froyo.uckb1
thanks in advance for the help and advice, now it's time to finish reading through the app thread and hit up the store...
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Hi everybody, new to the forums and new to droid - I recently upgraded from the Propel to the Captivate and so far I am loving it. With all the reviews and forums I read before deciding to buy most of my answers have been answered, but not all.
My phone was loaded with 2.2 and when I registered it with Samsung it showed a build date of feb/11 so I'm hoping that my phone has alot of the big fixes already loaded. I have noticed that the gps code listed on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732030
Does not work on my phone, I enter *#*#1472365#*# and the last * just clears the code out of my dialer... no sub-menu, no options, nothing. Any ideas how to do gps testing?
Other question, I spend alot of time off the cell network and I need a gps that works - which app would be good to use? Searching the app store there is quite a few ranging in price, most seem to have mixed reviews. Google does nothing for me since it needs the network to pull up the maps. Basically when I load up the gps it shows me in a sea of nothingness and trying to scroll the map gives me an error 'need network connection' type of message.
Also, I've noticed what looks like 2 small led's one the face of my phone, just to the left of the speaker and the ugly logo. Are these notification leds or something else?
I don't plan on rooting or flashing my phone for a while... yes yes I know, stock sucks, but like I said I was using the Samsung Propel a couple days ago and now the Captivate - I've got alot to learn and alot to get used to before I switch things around. Yes, one day I do want to switch off of stock software just not right now, thanks for the suggestion though. lol
Model SGHI897
Firmware 2.2
Baseband I897UCKB1
Kernel 2.6.32.9
froyo.uckb1
thanks in advance for the help and advice, now it's time to finish reading through the app thread and hit up the store...
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As for needing a GPS on without using Data there are a few but to be honest if you need it for reliable GPS, then you got the wrong device. The captivate is known for having terrible GPS and it is unrelible at best. Good enough to help you learn a new town but not good enough to get you where you need to go on time everytime. The led are the light sensors. No led Notifications with the captivte at all unless you rom a custom rom and get BLN from the app store that will light up your 4 bottom keys when you have a message.
I do have a stand alone gps, I was just hoping I'd be able to free up some pocket space with the phone - so far, it just shows a blank screen with a blue indicator and says it's accurate 'within 10 meters'. I was hoping I could find a app that provided maps and maybe help tune it a bit. Next time I'm on the network I'll play around with it and see what kind of readings it gives - even if the gps is low end, I'm still liking this phone so far... a whole lot better than the propel.
Thanks for the update, zelendel
google "android app navigation preloaded maps"
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Does not work on my phone, I enter *#*#1472365#*# and the last * just clears the code out of my dialer... no sub-menu, no options, nothing. Any ideas how to do gps testing?
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Try using *#*#3214789650#*#* for the dialer code.
psynonamous said:
Also, I've noticed what looks like 2 small led's one the face of my phone, just to the left of the speaker and the ugly logo. Are these notification leds or something else?
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One is a proximity sensor and one is a light sensor.
Thanks for the info, I got a couple gps test apps I'm going to mess around with in a while but, I found a new problem that is driving me crazy...
I bought a usb wifi adapter - Asus n13 (b/g/n), in the hopes of using my internet for data and my phone will not connect to wifi. Even driving around town to places that offer free open wifi, my phone will not connect. It finds the wifi hotspots, pulls up the ssid, says connecting, then gets to 'assigning ip' and freezes. On my pc wifi setup, it shows a new connection and 2 seconds later disconnect.
In the phone wifi settings, it keeps showing wifi -connecting....disconnected, back to scanning, connecting in an endless loop - but it never connects. It has the ssid remembered but I cannot delete it or reset it. WPS failed to connect from either end.
Sleep Policy is off
Use Static IP is off
This is a big issue for me since I'm on the cheap att data plan.. I've tried various settings on the pc side of things, all with the same results, I've browsed the internet and done a bit of troubleshooting (ie, different usb ports, different drivers, turning on/off services, etc etc) - I think the problem is on the phone since it does not access any wifi... maybe I missed a setting somewhere?
For now I'm going to dig through the user manual again...
OK, playing around with some of windows wireless settings I've hit a new roadblock... my phone says connecting... Obtaining IP address... Disconnecting... Scanning...
That is one small step closer I think, because it wasnt trying to get an ip address earlier, it was just connecting/disconnecting.
finally! I figured it out!!!
Just for future note.... You have to go into your windows network settings, highlight your broadband AND wifi together - select bridge... restart your pc wifi software and then connect your phone, it should start right up!
psynonamous said:
Does not work on my phone, I enter *#*#1472365#*# and the last * just clears the code out of my dialer... no sub-menu, no options, nothing. Any ideas how to do gps testing?
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You say you do not want to root the phone. But try Launcher Pro anyways to access the LbsTestMode.
1. Sign up/in to the market.
2. Download and install Launcher Pro (it says Pro but there is a FREE version, so dont worry).
3. After install, go to home screen. Long press and choose "Shortcuts"
4. In menu, choose "Activities" (yellow icon).
5. Scroll down and expand the menu "LbsTestMode". Under this is a submenu. Choose the first "LbsTestMode" under this. Yes the main menu and submenu have same name.
6. Choose Ok or whatever, and the icon will be on your Home screen.
7. If you get this far, then you are good.
Open LbstestMode:
1. At the moment you probably should just leave Application Settings to default.
2. Under "Supl/CP settings". And change as follows:
Server: supl.google.com (no "www.")
Server Port: 7276
Secure Socket: OFF
AGPS Mode : SUPL
3. Return to previous menu.
4. DELETE GPS DATA just to clear all previous data.
5. Run "Get Position Test" on top of menu.....
Good Luck !!
psynonamous said:
Other question, I spend alot of time off the cell network and I need a gps that works - which app would be good to use? Searching the app store there is quite a few ranging in price, most seem to have mixed reviews. Google does nothing for me since it needs the network to pull up the maps. Basically when I load up the gps it shows me in a sea of nothingness and trying to scroll the map gives me an error 'need network connection' type of message.
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Yeah, Google Maps requires a network connection.....BUT when you go into Navigation mode - via the Directions menu and turning on navigation, you get navigation. YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD VOICE SYNTHESIS from the market to get voice guidance. This a good first try, IF YOUR GPS WORKS !!
Or try NAVIGON for Android ....you can buy it but also check here www.mobilism.org (ahem..ahem). I use daily, and I think it is the best routing....
EDIT: Well...about google maps, I think you need a data connection jsut to open the damn software, so you will need Navigon, Igo primo or similar...I AM ASSUMING YOU WANT ROUTING DIRECTIONS and not hiking type positioning. Then take a look at this http://www.backcountrynavigator.com/content/android-gps-software AND here http://www.backcountrynavigator.com/
Thanks again for the updates, but it seems like either Samsung or ATT has locked out the Lbs Test mode feature, both of the codes have the same result - after entering the last character it clears it out. I did get LauncherPro and am really digging it so far, but even the lbs tests dont do anything, it goes to a blank screen and just sits there... I have the status bar at the top and a totally blank screen. I even set my phone down on a box out in the yard for 30+ minutes and nothing ever came up - using the google and stock settings for the test. I'm guessing if/when I root my phone the tests will work
I started using GPS Test from Chartcross Limited and GPS Status from EclipSim - both show that my gps is accurate between 16.4 and 32.8 feet - depending on which the way the wind is blowing. I've been browsing some of the other gps/map apps but for now I'll just carry around my standard gps when I need it.
Even with the gps issues, I'm really liking this phone alot. I havent really ran into any other problems yet
Due to a pretty high demand of people that have been PMing me about my GPS I would like to write up this short help guide that works for me and many other people that have tried these settings.
1. I would like to point everyone to this thread, the Solder fix did wonders on my phone and many others that have done it, it REALLY Does work and it REALLY does work well. If you know someone that can, or if you can solder yourself, DO IT, you will be very happy with the out come.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
I Take no credit for the above fix as it put together by a few people, it really helped many people to get their GPS working properly, the solder step only added to it.
2. This is a step by step guide to MY settings that work on any rom that does not have a broken GPS kernel and always has great results.
A. Head to the Market and download SGS Tools, or search XDA for it.
B. Tuen off your GPS and Wireless Networks
C. Open SGS tools and click on Secret Codes
D. Click on GPS- Test and Settings (LBSTestMode)
E. Click on Application Settings, Change Operation mode to MS BASED
F. Go back one menu and click on SULP/CP Settings and change server to supl.google.com Port number 7576
G. Go back to the main GPS test menu and click Delete GPS Data
H. Reboot
I. Once fully rebooted, turn on your GPS ONLY, do not check use wireless networks.
J. Go outside, REALLY GO OUTSIDE, dont be lazy if you want this to work, Start up maps, or Nav and give it 3-5 minutes, you should have strong lock.
K. If you STILL CANNOT Get a lock, proceed to the next steps...
L. Head to the Markget and down load GPS Status
M. Open the app, click options, click tools, hit manage A-GPS state and hit download.
N. Let the app sit, WHILE YOU ARE OUTSIDE, you should now see a lock within a few minutes or so...
Anytime there after if you cannot get a lock, open GPS Status and redownload the A-GPS State and it should see a lock everytime. These are the settings I have been using for months and they work flawlessly on any rom I have been onm, as long as the Kernel allows it. Give it a shot, even if you dont apply the solder fix (But I cant stress enough to give it a go, it sounds a lot scarier then it really is and it will do wonders for your phone. Feel free to PM if you have any other questions and I will do my best to help
I think solder fix is not required for GPS devices after Oct 2010.
Anyways, what's difference in results for MS BASED and MS ASSISTED ?
neobuddy89 said:
I think solder fix is not required for GPS devices after Oct 2010.
Anyways, what's difference in results for MS BASED and MS ASSISTED ?
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thats what i want to know too
THis is what Google/ Wiki turned up
Standalone - The handset has no connection to the network, and uses only the GPS satellite signals it can currently receive to try to establish a location.
MS Based - The handset is connected to the network, and uses the GPS signals and a location signal from the network.
MS Assisted - The handset is connected to the network, uses GPS signals and a location signal, then relays its 'fix' to the server. Which then uses the signal strength from the phone to the network towers to further plot the user's position. Users can still maintain voice communication in this scenario, but not 'Internet/Network service', (i.e. Web browser, IM, streaming TV etc.)
MS Assisted/Hybrid - Same as above, but network functionality remains. Normally only in areas with exceptional coverage.
Great work Sols and Wood!!
Just in case anyone was looking for SGS Tools because I am not seeing it in the market. There is an SGS Toolbox in there but that is slightly different that this one. Do yourself a favor if you use GPS. Use Sol's settings and it will drastically improve your locks. I tend to drive on some backward country roads that don't have names, but rather numbers and the GPS always gets me right to the front door of my destination.
If you download the apk, click the thanks button. This isn't in the market anymore, fyi.
Thanks Woodrube, your the man!
Thanks Woodrube for popping in this app
Woodrube said:
Just in case anyone was looking for SGS Tools because I am not seeing it in the market. There is an SGS Toolbox in there but that is slightly different that this one. Do yourself a favor if you use GPS. Use Sol's settings and it will drastically improve your locks. I tend to drive on some backward country roads that don't have names, but rather numbers and the GPS always gets me right to the front door of my destination.
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Thanks Woodrube for popping in this app, when I am at the market after I download my paid apps (87), it is hard to remember all of the free apps that I need to download as well.
I'll give this a try when I get home tonight. I can get GPS locks on Froyo, but on GB or ICS roms it takes a long time to connect, if at all. Sometimes I have to reboot the phone (not really practical) and it'll give me a lock instantly.
Shame sgstools fc's when trying to access secret codes part for GPS.
I also tried to access lbstestmode settings from the old dialer numbers options but doesn't work for ICS.
Shame.... Would love to take a look at this.
Globespy said:
Shame sgstools fc's when trying to access secret codes part for GPS.
I also tried to access lbstestmode settings from the old dialer numbers options but doesn't work for ICS.
Shame.... Would love to take a look at this.
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Yup, FCs when hitting the GPS part of secret codes. Using ExROM
Globespy said:
Shame sgstools fc's when trying to access secret codes part for GPS.
I also tried to access lbstestmode settings from the old dialer numbers options but doesn't work for ICS.
Shame.... Would love to take a look at this.
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Same here, running ICZ.
SGStools doesn't work for ICS ROMs. Never had and probably never will. Need to use something like AngryGPS or the like.
any suggestions on getting this to work on ics?
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I'll test that when I get home, I just want to test it because I want faster locks. Last night I was testing the gps on paranoid 2.5.0 with Devil kernel 1.7.5 I these are my results. Again I need to know if I do this will lock the sats faster. Thanks in advance for this info!
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Ok, It seems WP7 won't set wifi to 'always on' unless the device is plugged in. This drives me nutts when using htpc remote apps on my phone and just seems like an obvious feature to build in to the OS. I understand MS's 'battery life' reasoning initially, but there should be an easy way for power users to manipulate this setting...amirite??
Has anyone found a way/hack/regedit to manually set this? Or maybe a lesser known app floating about the interwebz you might care to share with us
Thanks,
-n
I add my voice to yours. Such a simple yet needed feature that needs to be addressed.
download the latest versionof skype from the marketplace, open tthe app and set up yr acccount, make a call, and minimise the app ...
the wifi will stay on
when u move away from the wifi area and try to make a call to skype, skype starts to use 3G and the wifi will turn off ( back to default behaviorur)