Before flashing a new rom, what are the advantages/disadvantages of the Bart or Nandroid backups?
Do I do one or the other or both?
Nandroid when I last used it (and it was a while ago, so it may have changed) only backed up the rom, and not other stuff like aplications on an ext2/3/4 patition (A2SD) so you would lose app's
BART backs up the whole lot.
Nandroid now supports backup of ext as well. So they both do pretty much the same job. I prefer the switchrom script just because it allows you to name the backups. Makes it alot easier than trying to guess what rom I had installed on a specific date.
bart allows naming from the console (its the way I use it)
It also allows compressing the backup, its one of the things I started doing when I first switched from switchrom, but dont do it anymore, way to slow to compress and uncompress on a G1
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If I wanted to jump between ROMs, which backup method would be best? I would like to be able to retain all my apps and their settings. Basically, restore and go, with no need to reinstall apps and to keep their data/settings.
I use Bart because it is included in the Amon_Ra recovery. If you use the one in "utility" from the recovery command prompt, it will let you give names and store multiple roms. I have never had to do any thing to restore other than choose the rom I want and hit yes. Works perfect. I usually will backup the ext as well as a precaution.
Switchrom is what Bart was based off of so it should be stable but not as easy as the Amon_Ra recovery method.
Personal preference really.
I like switchrom because ... I just do. Same result in the end, just different paths.
I like Nandroid + EXT, but as everyone has said, its a matter of taste at the end...
Nandroid + Ext for me
Using Amon RA recovery and renaming the directories after to keep track of which one is which. This is purely an old habits die hard thing. I know nandroid, therefore I use nandroid. Currently in there I've got *takes a quick look*
Super D 1.6
Dwang 1.17
Cyanogen 4.2.13
Jacs Hero
Eclair 2.1
Motoblur
Espresso 2.1
Possibly a little excessive as I only REALLY use Super D, but it's fun to switch around when I'm bored on the train sometimes
With nandroid backups, can you rename the folders after backing up roms so that you can ID which backups is which rom?
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if you are doing switchrom when u go to store the rom its automatically does a nandroid back up. do a regular nandroid back up and do a switchrom back up just to be on the safe save. its what i do.
hey guys, since your apps are saved in the ext, after you wipe them for a full wipe ROM, what program do you use to get them back?
I am looking for a program (preferably free) which will let me save then recover my apps, if possible it would be sweet if it had like a batch mode where it could mass recover all the "ticked" apps or something.
Thanks for any help finding such a program. I looked a little bit but only found one pay app which did this.
Once again thx for any help!
You can't recover them once you wipe it, if you format a flash drive everything on it is gone forever.
I would suggest you make a nandroid or bart then take the apps of them and you can install them again.
1) arent there apps that save all apps on the sd then recover them from sd (fat32 partition)
2)I have always wondered what exactly is the bart and under what circumstances would i make a backup of it and what circumstances would i recover it?
asb123 said:
1) arent there apps that save all apps on the sd then recover them from sd (fat32 partition)
2)I have always wondered what exactly is the bart and under what circumstances would i make a backup of it and what circumstances would i recover it?
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1) They backup the apps before you wipe
2) Bart and Nand are both on your SD's FAT32 partition.You can put in on your computer to salvage the apps when ever you want.
1) yeah, those r the apps i am talking about. Do you know any that would fit the above criteria?
2) I know all about nandorid ( i use it to jump around ROMS all the time) whats a bart back up do, is it an alternate nandroid or does it have its own function.
asb123 said:
1) yeah, those r the apps i am talking about. Do you know any that would fit the above criteria?
2) I know all about nandorid ( i use it to jump around ROMS all the time) whats a bart back up do, is it an alternate nandroid or does it have its own function.
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Bart includes nandroid but also backs up the ext partition. If you use Bart before you wipe and install another rom, you will have your programs setup exactly like they were when you restore back to your original rom.
You can backup just the apps off the ext and put them back after you load the new rom. I am not sure about at batch install.
Mybackup and there are probably some others in the market.Root explorer might allow you to copy files.
Which option should I select? I have the following:
- Nand Backup
- Nand + Ext Backup
- BART backup
I don't plan on doing alot of hacking (launchers, themes, minor things) but if I mess something up I want to be able to make a backup and restore; hopefully as if nothing happened. That said, it wouldn't do me much good unless I knew the backup I made was going to enable me for the right restore. I'm running the newest version of Amon-RA. Green typeface, Nexus Logo (Dunno if that makes a difference). Messed up my phone pretty bad yesterday and although I was able to fix it, I don't wanna repeat that mistake.
I've always done Nand+Ext backup. Never has failed me
what is the +ext and the bart option? anybody that can ecplain the difference with the nand backup?
EXT is if you have a linux EXT partition for APPS2SD and want that backed up too.
thanks, and what does bart mean then? I just saw the new 1.7.0 from ra and saw the last two were replaced by google system files. any link with that?
When I enable/disable lagfixes, it automatically does a nandroid backup. Do I have to delete old backups, or is it done automatically? If I have to do it, where are they stored?
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They are stored in the clockwork folder on the root of your internal sd. I think.
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When I enable/disable lagfixes, it automatically does a nandroid backup. Do I have to delete old backups, or is it done automatically? If I have to do it, where are they stored?
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You don't have to. They become somewhat redundant after a while and begin taking up space if you create them often. Only the most recent one is really relevant, as long as your rom is working correctly. In one sense, they're kind of like restore points in windows.
I had SpeedMod kernel installed for a while, and if I remember correctly, they go into the sdcard/clockworkmod/backup directory, same as regular nandroid backups.
what is the difference between cw backup and titanium backup?
which is better, more safe (for brick issue) , faster ...
what is meant by nandroid backup?
Difference between Nandroid and Titanium backup
I am glad I found this, I have been looking for a thread I could submit a useful post in so that I would be able to see the thank button.
Nandroid backup is the type of backup that CWM does.
i.e. when your phone is rooted you can go into the recovery and one of the options is nandroid backup.
A nandroid backup copies every single byte of data stored in the phone onto your SD card (or wherever) and is an absolute backup of one particular state of your phone.
It is a very powerful tool, you do a nandroid backup before flashing anything and if it all goes wrong the nandroid backup will restore everything back to the way it was before you messed it all up.
(with the Note you need to be careful because the nandroid backup does a wipe and write on restore and that will trigger the hard brick issues with the leaked ICS ROMs that you will no doubt have read about in the stickies.
Titanium backup is a tool that is run from inside the OS and can back up the installation files and app data of all your apps, it will allow you to remove and replace individual apps or batch replace the whole lot.
It can also force the OS not to update certain apps if you want them to run at an older version.
It can sync its backup files to Dropbox or Google drive too.
I guess in a nutshell the differences are these:
Nandroid will only back up a snapshot of the whole phone but does not need a working OS to do it.
Titanium will only work if you can get the phone to boot into android but it can do more specific backups and roll backs.
Let me know if that has answered your question buddy.
amateurstuntman said:
I am glad I found this, I have been looking for a thread I could submit a useful post in so that I would be able to see the thank button.
Nandroid backup is the type of backup that CWM does.
i.e. when your phone is rooted you can go into the recovery and one of the options is nandroid backup.
A nandroid backup copies every single byte of data stored in the phone onto your SD card (or wherever) and is an absolute backup of one particular state of your phone.
It is a very powerful tool, you do a nandroid backup before flashing anything and if it all goes wrong the nandroid backup will restore everything back to the way it was before you messed it all up.
(with the Note you need to be careful because the nandroid backup does a wipe and write on restore and that will trigger the hard brick issues with the leaked ICS ROMs that you will no doubt have read about in the stickies.
Titanium backup is a tool that is run from inside the OS and can back up the installation files and app data of all your apps, it will allow you to remove and replace individual apps or batch replace the whole lot.
It can also force the OS not to update certain apps if you want them to run at an older version.
It can sync its backup files to Dropbox or Google drive too.
I guess in a nutshell the differences are these:
Nandroid will only back up a snapshot of the whole phone but does not need a working OS to do it.
Titanium will only work if you can get the phone to boot into android but it can do more specific backups and roll backs.
Let me know if that has answered your question buddy.
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thx alot for ur reply
amateurstuntman said:
I am glad I found this, I have been looking for a thread I could submit a useful post in so that I would be able to see the thank button.
Nandroid backup is the type of backup that CWM does.
i.e. when your phone is rooted you can go into the recovery and one of the options is nandroid backup.
A nandroid backup copies every single byte of data stored in the phone onto your SD card (or wherever) and is an absolute backup of one particular state of your phone.
It is a very powerful tool, you do a nandroid backup before flashing anything and if it all goes wrong the nandroid backup will restore everything back to the way it was before you messed it all up.
(with the Note you need to be careful because the nandroid backup does a wipe and write on restore and that will trigger the hard brick issues with the leaked ICS ROMs that you will no doubt have read about in the stickies.
Titanium backup is a tool that is run from inside the OS and can back up the installation files and app data of all your apps, it will allow you to remove and replace individual apps or batch replace the whole lot.
It can also force the OS not to update certain apps if you want them to run at an older version.
It can sync its backup files to Dropbox or Google drive too.
I guess in a nutshell the differences are these:
Nandroid will only back up a snapshot of the whole phone but does not need a working OS to do it.
Titanium will only work if you can get the phone to boot into android but it can do more specific backups and roll backs.
Let me know if that has answered your question buddy.
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Thats incorrect as per my post regarding backup cwm does not take a snapshot of whole phone. One more thing you need to backup seperately is efs. See my thread on that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606012
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