However ironic the title may be, I updated my fiance's non-rooted N1 to the official release froyo and from the very beginning, it will work for a few seconds, then it will just freeze for a few minutes. I have patiently gone through and stopped almost every process, and nothing will fix it. It still just freezes constantly and usually requires a battery pull to get it to work at all. I told her she could try a factory reset, but she would rather just go back to 2.1-update1. I'm going to try renaming 22607-ERD79-update-nexusone-stock-signed.zip (or PASSIMG_Passion_Google_WWE_1.01.1700.1_ERD79_release_signed.zip) to update.zip and reflashing it in the stock bootloader on her phone, but I feel like that won't work because it is a previous version and not really an update. Does anyone have any advice on how to just bring her back, or perhaps how to fix her freezing problems on froyo?
Thanks
Try a fresh flash with no apps installed and see how its doing.... if it doesn't freeze then its a app probably ...
I'd like to try that, but she doesn't want to do a fresh install. I'd imagine that if an app didn't freeze 2.1, it wouldn't freeze 2.2. Besides, 2.2 freezes even after killing all applications and services.
I guess I'm really looking for advice on getting it back to 2.1 without rooting her phone.
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I'd like to try that, but she doesn't want to do a fresh install. I'd imagine that if an app didn't freeze 2.1, it wouldn't freeze 2.2. Besides, 2.2 freezes even after killing all applications and services.
I guess I'm really looking for advice on getting it back to 2.1 without rooting her phone.
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Just do a factory reset in settings and security ... no reflash. Just cause a app didn't freeze 2?1 doesn't mean it wont freeze 2.2. And even if the apps currently not running or closed, it'll still wack ya phone. I had a freeze every hour yesterday with my chosen apps installed, flashed 3 different times to no avail. Now I factory reset with only 4 definitely needed apps installed and haven't gotten a freeze yet. So my conclusion is 2.2 doesn't like something I've installed so I'm adding a few apps every hour to fins the cause.
Since I factory reset with my few apps. I haven't had a freeze yet all night and morning long..
I'm having the same issue too. Not sure what is going on with FRF91, but my phone keeps freezing and I need to pull the battery to get it to respond again. I agree it very well could be an application, but installing every application one by one and testing would be a pain. Is there a better way to figure out what is causing the phone to lock up? Any time of log on the phone that would be helpful?
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I'm having the same issue too. Not sure what is going on with FRF91, but my phone keeps freezing and I need to pull the battery to get it to respond again. I agree it very well could be an application, but installing every application one by one and testing would be a pain. Is there a better way to figure out what is causing the phone to lock up? Any time of log on the phone that would be helpful?
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Have you tried a factory reset? That might fix it... let us know what you find. I've noticed a couple of freezes as well, but I'm not able to factory reset it just yet because I'm out of town and don't want my phone down for even half an hour.
I have to pull battery a couple of times a day.
I'm having the same issue on 2.2. I have done 2 factory resets. Nothing. N1 call center said slowly reinstall all apps to see if an app may be doing it. No luck.
Is anyone having issues with the screen still being responsive while on a call? My screen will go black but you cant still hit keys when you have up against your face.
I'm betting that you do not have a custom recovery and nandroid backup, or you wouldn't be asking.
I highly doubt that the phone will let you push the old firmware on top of the new one if you don't have a hacked recovery and a test-signed zip. But I don't know - you could try it...
Here is what I would do:
1. Install a custom recovery (like Amon-Ra 1.7.0.1), either by unlocking the bootloader, or by following the directions in the dev forum for doing this without unlocking if you have the fear. If you already a custom recovery, don't worry about this step.
2. Now boot into recovery and make a nand backup!
3. Now go ahead and try this one of two ways - either delete one application at a time until you figure out which one is killing you, OR do a factory reset and then re-add one application or a small number at a time until you figure out what is crashing you.
If it were me, with my 100 applications, I'd probably add 5 or 10 at a time. Once you get crashes after one group, try removing those applications one at a time until the crashes stop. The last removed app when the crashes stop should be the answer.
Of course, since you'll have to have adb running to get a nandroid, you could also just take a logcat of the running, crashing phone and see what app is killing it there.
I did a factory reset today and will report back letting everyone know if that has fixed the issue. Everyone else that is experiencing the freezing issue, did you have Beautiful Widgets installed?
I have that installed, is that whats cousing it?
Beautiful Widgets was killing my N1, too. Freezes, sluggishness, etc. I uninstalled and wiped my cache via stock recovery. No problems since.
I'm on stock FRF91 BTW.
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It appears that's the root of my issue. I would uninstall the application and clear the cache and see if that helps. Report back with your findings.
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I received my OTA to FRF83... and now my phone seems to be freezing up every so often while doing basic tasks... even waking up the phone sometimes freezes at the unlock screen. Anyone else getting this? My phone is UNROOTED and official. FRF72 ran fine... not sure whats going on but its REAL annoying.
I even tried factory resetting and still getting the same issues.
Any ideas? Can I manually go back to FRF72 somehow?
Can you clear the cache and dalvik cache via recovery, if you have stock recovery? I know you can if you have a modded recovery.
if not, then maybe it's an app or something hogging memory
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Can you clear the cache and dalvik cache via recovery, if you have stock recovery? I know you can if you have a modded recovery.
if not, then maybe it's an app or something hogging memory
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I just tried "clear user data"... thats about all I get with stock recovery. I don't think its an app considering I deleted everything and it still continued to freeze.
Can I delete Dalvik from ADB even unrooted?
I get frequent lock ups and freezing on an unrooted AT&T with 2.1. Seems too many apps load up and even though they may be in the background not using resources, the overall memory drops to about 25 MB. Go get ProcessManager from the market and kill the apps running. Some will restart but it will cure the lockups. I also disabled a handful of things on startup, stopped using live wallpapers and routinely kill apps to free up memory because of the lockups. Maybe Froyo 2.2 will correct this issue. Seems most of the rooted guys don't have any of these issues, so it must be this version of firmware.
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I get frequent lock ups and freezing on an unrooted AT&T with 2.1. Seems too many apps load up and even though they may be in the background not using resources, the overall memory drops to about 25 MB. Go get ProcessManager from the market and kill the apps running. Some will restart but it will cure the lockups. I also disabled a handful of things on startup, stopped using live wallpapers and routinely kill apps to free up memory because of the lockups. Maybe Froyo 2.2 will correct this issue. Seems most of the rooted guys don't have any of these issues, so it must be this version of firmware.
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Like I said... I factory data reset so there where NO APPS. and the phone still comes to a screaching hault after a few minutes of jumping in and out of apps. It freezes to the point I have to remove the battery. Becomes completely unresponsive to touch.
As a side note, ive been using android since the first G1 on pre-order... I know how it works and how you need to use a task killer to keep stuff running smoothly... This however is extremely odd as it completely freezes.
again, only started after my OTA update to FRF83.
thanks for the input. I guess i'll have to send back my N1 for the forth time to HTC... getting pretty sick of this. That Iphone 4 or Galaxy S looks better everyday.
You don't need a task killer manager since 2.1. Froyo is even better at handling memory.
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i noticed the same thing on my phone today...unlocked phone went from ERE27 to FRF50 to FRF83 yesterday......
today it seems to freeze...from time to time - i thought it requires a battery pull but if i wait long enough it will be ok again.
anyone know what the issue is?
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i noticed the same thing on my phone today...unlocked phone went from ERE27 to FRF50 to FRF83 yesterday......
today it seems to freeze...from time to time - i thought it requires a battery pull but if i wait long enough it will be ok again.
anyone know what the issue is?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. Mines also an unlocked phone. Wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Ugh we need frf90 to come along and fix this!
The Same here
It happened to me right now, My phone hanged and I forced reset it, it happened one time when I was on FRF72 and one time now on FRF83. it was after a phone call and I couldn't unlock the phone, touch screen didn't work but it did work for power button menu so it should be a software problem, I thought it should be something incompatible between launcher pro and FRF 72 and FRF83 but it seems it is not the case.
I have the same problem. Went from ere27-frf50-frf83. I thought it was launcherpro so I uninstalled it.
Still getting freezes on unlock...and switching between Apps. Sometimes need battery pull sometimes just some time for the phone to catch up.
I had previously switched from frf50 back to ere27 because I couldn't stand the constant need to pull battery because phone freezes.
issues i have with frf83 is not as serious as frf50 so I think I will still stick with it for a few days and see what happens.
Just really need the official ota.
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I just upgraded to the 2.2 (FRF83) yesterday, already had to pull the battery twice in one morning because it just froze up..
What the fu*k did they do! The 2.2 prerelease was fine hadn't had any crashes at all in the month I used it.
Edit; make that 3 times.. WTF!
Now, I'm extremely tempted to just root the phone but I was sticking with official builds for stability, I really didn't think it would get worse..
Yup having the same problem... Had to pull the battery twice today due to freezing and the same thing yesterday... It just started happening to me. Got 83 when it first came out, and its now starting to freeze. Idk what the deal is..
I still have no idea what these updates do.. What's different? I'm talking about the frf50, 72, and 83.. Froyo by it self seemed fine, what's new??
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I have installed the JH7 update found here on xda. My phone is rooted with sideloading enabled. I will be honest, I have a ton of apps on my phone.
I have had SO many problems since the update. I had to re-install the update 3 times, because after HOURS of trying to enable sideloading it still wouldn't work. After the third install I was finally able to enable sideloading.
Now, my problem is, some apps are crashing as soon as I open them. The 2 biggest culprits are e-mail, and Shop Saavy. I click to open them, they open for between 1-5 seconds, then close.
Any thoughts? I am desperately trying to find an answer, I would hate to have to hard reset, since I have already spent in excess of 10 hours trying to get my phone to where it is now.
I did have task manager installed, but the problem persists even after uninstall. Also, I used task manager prior to the update with no problems.
Thanks so much!
PS: If I do have to hard reset, can I simply use Sprite backup to restore everything, or will there still be some things that need configuring (ie. home screen etc)?
Quick idea: Download ROM Manager from the Market and run "Fix Permissions." Sometimes that will clear up any force close issues.
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Quick idea: Download ROM Manager from the Market and run "Fix Permissions." Sometimes that will clear up any force close issues.
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Hi:
I tried your suggestion, but sadly, it didn't work
Thanks so much for your suggestion though!!
PS: The apps just close, I do not get an error message. I have found some posts with people with e-mail crashing issues, but it seems that they do get a force close message, and that it is Exchange related. I do not use exchange.
Now that you mention it, I have had the stock email client force close upon load a few times since the update, and it had never done that beforehand. Maybe try reflashing just the kernel?
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Now that you mention it, I have had the stock email client force close upon load a few times since the update, and it had never done that beforehand. Maybe try reflashing just the kernel?
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Hi:
Sorry to be a dunce, but how do you reflash just the kernel, and will it delete everything (apps, data etc)?
Thanks so much!
My 2 cents:
I don't know why it took hours to enable sideloading, i spent only a few minutes - but that gives me the impression that something might seriously be broken.
I would back up everything you want to save and do a master reset - it will clear all data, but you hould be JH7 fresh. If you want to go further, you can reflash factory JF6 then update to JH7. Either way, make sure you check basic apps first before installing a bunch of stuff.
I don't subscribe to the blind grasping at straws method of fixing things. After to many hours it is just faster to rebuild. If you knew what was wrong, then fix it, but if you don't then rebuild.
I agree. If you are needing this to function properly now, then just reset back to factory and start over. But if you are like me and just have to know what is broken.....that could take a while. I always try to make sure I don't have anything on my phone I couldn't live without just for instances like this.
Flashing just the kernel can be done with Odin (search the forum). There is a "stock captivate kernel" floating around (I'd post it, but I'm sure we don't need files posted multiple times). Instructions are included in that post. Basically you need a computer, USB cable, drivers, and bollocks. However, as mentioned, this is a shot in the dark. Random force closes could be caused by a variety of issues ranging from corrupt software, file system inconsistencies, to hardware failure, phase of the moon, appetite level, etc....
The safest bet is to backup everything, flash stock (if needed) and take it back to AT&T for a replacement.
Good Luck!
Hi:
Thank you so much for the replies, and help.
I decided to go ahead and reflash JH7. This has fixed the entire problem. So, apparently it was software related.
I am now going to install all my apps one at a time, in order to find the culprit. Hopefully it is one I can live without lol.
Anyway, thanks again!
Did you ever figure out what app was causing this? I am starting to get annoyed with my force closes and was going to re-flash and re-add all apps.
Hi:
Well, I MAY have figured it out. I had a million programs installed, and it just seemed like too much work to try to figure it out.
So I just re-installed JH7, and started from scratch, so I'll never really know what the problem was.
However recently I started having the same problem again. Since I started from scratch I have been gradually installing programs, just in case one cased a problem.
Well, it seems my problem was Startup Manager. I did NOT disable any system programs etc..., but it was still causing apps to crash, as soon as I froze it with Titanium Backup Manager, the problem stopped.
So, if you happen to be using Startup Manager, I would try uninstalling/ disabling it. Or, if you use a task manager, try not using it, maybe it is stopping whatever Startup Manager was disabling on mine.
Anyway, I hope this was of some help.
Oops, sorry, the program causing my troubles is actually called Startup Auditor.
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Wonder if you guys could help me.
I've been using Froyo 2.2 on my Galaxy S for a while with no problems, upgraded through Kies.
All of a sudden today the screen stopped being responsive - ie I could swipe to unlock it but then the screen was that slightly grey/dull colour as if the screen was about to turn off. The touch screen basically became unresponsive with the only button that worked being the main home screen button, which would switch between the zoomed out view all of my homepages and my main homepage. Didn't think much of it so rebooted the phone (also I haven't installed any new apps or made any big setting changes lately).
However, when I rebooted apps like Titanium Backup, LaucherPro, NetCounter, Handcent etc kept force closing automatically making the phone almost unusable. I've tried restarting the phone, taking the battery out but to no avail. I then managed to switch to the default samsung launcher and reinstall some of the problem apps which sort of helped, but the more apps I try the more I find just crash upon starting.
What's the best way to solve this problem, preferably without loosing all my data/settings?
Seems like something has become corrupted, and I'm a bit worried this has happened so out of the blue....
Really don't want to have to a factory reset if possible, but looks like I'll have to
i think wiping the cache may do the trick, it happened to me after installing new theme. couldnt even use it for 5 mins to back up my stuff. i wiped the cache in recovery and that fixed it.
I tired wiping the cache in recovery mode but didn't help much (other than allowing me to use TWLauncher, and hence being able to semi use the phone).
Don't have a backup either , mainly because since upgrading to 2.2 I can't get any rooting methods to work oddly.
Could be in a for a long evening....
What really gets me is that it just happened randomly. I just tried to use the phone after it was in standby and it just wasn't responsive - after the reboot the force closing apps problem occured. I wasn't trying to install anything, bit worrying really.
i think the only way to get back to normal is a factory reset. i dont personally know any other methods. but its upto you to wipe the phone or keep searching for a solution.
the cause is probably through some sort of corruption or wrong setting in an application, i wouldnt panic about the phone dying or anything lol, just a ball ache restoring everything..
Hope you get it sorted remember to make a backup when its fixed. i make backups on a weekly basis as im constantly flashing and modding, and it makes life soooo much easier.
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i think the only way to get back to normal is a factory reset. i dont personally know any other methods. but its upto you to wipe the phone or keep searching for a solution.
the cause is probably through some sort of corruption or wrong setting in an application, i wouldnt panic about the phone dying or anything lol, just a ball ache restoring everything..
Hope you get it sorted remember to make a backup when its fixed. i make backups on a weekly basis as im constantly flashing and modding, and it makes life soooo much easier.
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Yeah I had a feeling that was going to be the outcome , ah well!
I normally do backup, just I haven't been modding or flashing much lately so assumed android wouldn't just die on me! Lesson learnt, always backup!
The phone is still usable, so I should be able to do a backup of my apps.
if you can still do backup... all is not lost then.
this seems to be happenning very ofthwn for my phone, and it hasn't disappeared even with using a different ROM or kernel.
I'm on tweaky's 2.3.5 JVS now, and I sometimes when I am in dialer and I type in 3 numbers, it just closes itself and shoots me back to the homescreen. it keeps doing that, and I'm unable to dial out because of this, until after a while and it irritates me to no end.
this also seemingly happens with me using whatsapp or Viber, where when I want to reply a message, after whatsapp has loaded up, it shoots me back to the home screen.
now, I've tries to get rid of my task killers, and saw no changes whatsoever, so can someone enlighten me on what's going on, and how to rectify this????
You say you did try a couple of roms, have you performed a factory reset or re-partition when flashing the roms?
Yes I did, all the time with Odin... Happenned with Darky, symply, simplicity, all of them
I wipe data and factory reset, even format the storage.
I'm not sure but as you said you've tried to change both rom and kernal yet there seems to be some sort of constant.
Are you backing up your apps accounts data etc and then restoring data? or the apps themselves? Because this can cause in-compatibilities.
If you do then start from scratch install only apps but only from market and one by one. Try play around half a day or something (or if you know a definite trigger see if it happens) if nothing then install another of your old apps.
Also have you tried installing no apps just use those that came with the rom. If it still happens after everything has been wiped (cache, dalvik cache, repartition, format sd, no external sd) then im inclined to say its hardware... When did this start happening?
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I back up my applications using Appmonster, and this retains just the program itself, I reset everything back to how it was after I wipe.
I'm not sure, I tried to think on whether its an issue with like lacking of ram or something, because SOMETIMES it behaves after I kill of some apps and free up some RAM.
I also thought it might have been a task manager which is doing it but uninstalled that and nothing changed.
I tried to install the programs slowly and individuality and it was a VERY slow and painful process, and it got me really nowhere, as like after i uninstalled and backtracked it still happenned.
I was wondering to myself if it was app incompatibility, as I have a relatively large list of apps installed.
It doesn't seem to do it if its fresh, so I'm not too sure myself.
Any ideas per se? Maybe a list of my installed apps? IDK I'm trying to find a solution to this.
At this rate I'm tempted to get a new phone
No harm in sharing the list of apps I guess, maybe someone more knowledgeable can give you a hand with that info.
Okay, But are there known apps that do this to the system? doesn't seem to happen for games but for Dialer and Whatsapp and Viber.
Everything else just works peach.
I just realised it might take more than a while, perhaps I will try a slow install of only the absolute necessities then.
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
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I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
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It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
That's really strange then.
Perhaps its the combination of apps... I don't know, I'll try getting rid of the unnecessary and see if it'll cause the same issues.
dialpad problem and other
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It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
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good to me the same thing happened to good use Viber but not if I used other application in restored times I have installed from scratch I have used several JVS rom and even some custom rom and also jvr stock but it is more about the JVS rom because jvr step with me after a few occasions,
JVS install and initially as well but in the kernel changes and custom rom rom that has happened to me in all I've used lately.
Hi everyone, I've tried searching for this issue and I've seen it mentioned occasionally in the main JB thread, but I've found it impossible to get a detailed response there.
Simply put, I'm wondering if those of you on the official V20a get lag when a new application is installing? I would greatly appreciate it if some of you would take the time to test it... Install something from the play store, and as it installs try swiping through your home screens. On my device, I get significant lag for a few seconds while the installation goes ahead, something I never had on ICS.
Now, I tried a factory reset, and it *seemed* to help the problem a bit, but not eliminate it. But I didn't test too thoroughly before I used LG's restore tool to restore my apps and settings, which is why I'm asking some of you to test it for me. If a factory reset fully fixes it, I'll consider wiping my phone and starting from scratch, but I want to be sure that's the cause first.
Could you also post what launcher you're using, and whether you factory reset after upgrading or not?
Thanks!
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Hi everyone, I've tried searching for this issue and I've seen it mentioned occasionally in the main JB thread, but I've found it impossible to get a detailed response there.
Simply put, I'm wondering if those of you on the official V20a get lag when a new application is installing? I would greatly appreciate it if some of you would take the time to test it... Install something from the play store, and as it installs try swiping through your home screens. On my device, I get significant lag for a few seconds while the installation goes ahead, something I never had on ICS.
Now, I tried a factory reset, and it *seemed* to help the problem a bit, but not eliminate it. But I didn't test too thoroughly before I used LG's restore tool to restore my apps and settings, which is why I'm asking some of you to test it for me. If a factory reset fully fixes it, I'll consider wiping my phone and starting from scratch, but I want to be sure that's the cause first.
Could you also post what launcher you're using, and whether you factory reset after upgrading or not?
Thanks!
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I had this problem even on ICS......And does anyone have a problem with lag when scrolling apks in folders ?....I got huge lags/freezes when I was scrolling fast...
I got the same problem! On ICS there as little lag of 1~2 seconds which my phone would be slow. Now on official brazilian V20a it gets UNRESPONSIVE for like, 5~8 seconds, I mean, really, it almost does`t work during this time! Installing or uninstalling any app (until now).
If you find a fix please post! I`ll do the same! Thanks
I reflashed and hard reseted my phone for other reasons and noticed that the problem was gone, but when I install the folder organizer app it lags again when installing anything.
Are you using an app to organize your apps like this? Maybe that`s the problem.
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Hi everyone, I've tried searching for this issue and I've seen it mentioned occasionally in the main JB thread, but I've found it impossible to get a detailed response there.
Simply put, I'm wondering if those of you on the official V20a get lag when a new application is installing? I would greatly appreciate it if some of you would take the time to test it... Install something from the play store, and as it installs try swiping through your home screens. On my device, I get significant lag for a few seconds while the installation goes ahead, something I never had on ICS.
Now, I tried a factory reset, and it *seemed* to help the problem a bit, but not eliminate it. But I didn't test too thoroughly before I used LG's restore tool to restore my apps and settings, which is why I'm asking some of you to test it for me. If a factory reset fully fixes it, I'll consider wiping my phone and starting from scratch, but I want to be sure that's the cause first.
Could you also post what launcher you're using, and whether you factory reset after upgrading or not?
Thanks!
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Yea this also happens to me, but I don't see it as much of a problem since installing usually doesn't take more than a couple of seconds.