Wonder if you guys could help me.
I've been using Froyo 2.2 on my Galaxy S for a while with no problems, upgraded through Kies.
All of a sudden today the screen stopped being responsive - ie I could swipe to unlock it but then the screen was that slightly grey/dull colour as if the screen was about to turn off. The touch screen basically became unresponsive with the only button that worked being the main home screen button, which would switch between the zoomed out view all of my homepages and my main homepage. Didn't think much of it so rebooted the phone (also I haven't installed any new apps or made any big setting changes lately).
However, when I rebooted apps like Titanium Backup, LaucherPro, NetCounter, Handcent etc kept force closing automatically making the phone almost unusable. I've tried restarting the phone, taking the battery out but to no avail. I then managed to switch to the default samsung launcher and reinstall some of the problem apps which sort of helped, but the more apps I try the more I find just crash upon starting.
What's the best way to solve this problem, preferably without loosing all my data/settings?
Seems like something has become corrupted, and I'm a bit worried this has happened so out of the blue....
Really don't want to have to a factory reset if possible, but looks like I'll have to
i think wiping the cache may do the trick, it happened to me after installing new theme. couldnt even use it for 5 mins to back up my stuff. i wiped the cache in recovery and that fixed it.
I tired wiping the cache in recovery mode but didn't help much (other than allowing me to use TWLauncher, and hence being able to semi use the phone).
Don't have a backup either , mainly because since upgrading to 2.2 I can't get any rooting methods to work oddly.
Could be in a for a long evening....
What really gets me is that it just happened randomly. I just tried to use the phone after it was in standby and it just wasn't responsive - after the reboot the force closing apps problem occured. I wasn't trying to install anything, bit worrying really.
i think the only way to get back to normal is a factory reset. i dont personally know any other methods. but its upto you to wipe the phone or keep searching for a solution.
the cause is probably through some sort of corruption or wrong setting in an application, i wouldnt panic about the phone dying or anything lol, just a ball ache restoring everything..
Hope you get it sorted remember to make a backup when its fixed. i make backups on a weekly basis as im constantly flashing and modding, and it makes life soooo much easier.
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i think the only way to get back to normal is a factory reset. i dont personally know any other methods. but its upto you to wipe the phone or keep searching for a solution.
the cause is probably through some sort of corruption or wrong setting in an application, i wouldnt panic about the phone dying or anything lol, just a ball ache restoring everything..
Hope you get it sorted remember to make a backup when its fixed. i make backups on a weekly basis as im constantly flashing and modding, and it makes life soooo much easier.
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Yeah I had a feeling that was going to be the outcome , ah well!
I normally do backup, just I haven't been modding or flashing much lately so assumed android wouldn't just die on me! Lesson learnt, always backup!
The phone is still usable, so I should be able to do a backup of my apps.
if you can still do backup... all is not lost then.
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I was using my phone a few hours ago (adding an icon from the application drawer to the home screen if that will help with solving the problem) when suddenly, the phone reset itself as though I had done a wipe from the recovery console. I had to sign back into Google and re-sync my contacts and calendar. All my settings were back to defaults. My home screen icons disappeared and changed to the default icons (browser, contacts, dialer, market, messaging, maps) as did the wallpaper. All my SMS messages were gone. Basically, it as was as though I had wiped and flashed the ROM for the first time.
However, and this is the weird part. Not only were all my apps still there but they were still installed. All the settings were lost but they were still there. I am not concerned with the restoration of my settings or anything like that. I've got that all covered with backups. My big question is why did it happen? Has anyone experienced or heard of this phantom reset? My ROM details are in my sig but just in case that changes and someone visits this post later, it will make more sense to them if I list it in the post itself.
Cyanogen 3.6.8.1 w/Recovery Menu v1.4. Radio v2.22.19.26i. A2SD on 550MB ext2 partition. Compcache enabled/24MB.
Has the only happened once with you? It could have been just a glitch.
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Has the only happened once with you? It could have been just a glitch.
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Well, I can tell you why your apps survived, because you have them on sd card so that's not weird, you can wipe all you want and they will survive.
I would say this is a glitch, don't worry about it unless it happens again.
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Well, I can tell you why your apps survived, because you have them on sd card so that's not weird, you can wipe all you want and they will survive.
I would say this is a glitch, don't worry about it unless it happens again.
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Yes, the apps on sd being the reason I didn't lose them makes sense. I had a different problem losing apps on the sd when I wiped but that was a mistakes in the way I was slinking and it was also on JF1.51 (a2sd is very unstable on that ROM). Anyway, I'm seriously hoping it was just a one time glitch because my setup is voodoo smooth otherwise. I finally got my G1 running perfectly and I'd hate to think something was wrong. Either way, Nandroid is always an option.
Phantom Reset Not a Glitch. Happened Again!
OK. So it happened again. The phantom reset that I described in the first post happened to me again. It's pretty annoying to have to perform Nadroid restores all the time. Anyone have any real thoughts other than telling me it was a fluke?
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I am pretty certain that this happened right after I used Backup for Root Users. I have my identical setup on my father's G1 and this has never happened. He has told me in the past that he does not use that app. I don't want to instantly blame the app but I want to provide as much info as possible. Cyan's ROMs are too good for this to be an issue.
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OK. So it happened again. The phantom reset that I described in the first post happened to me again. It's pretty annoying to have to perform Nadroid restores all the time. Anyone have any real thoughts other than telling me it was a fluke?
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The dev has reported that it has issues (if you can replicate the errors, send him a logcat)
hes on the forums on this site
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Thanks a lot. I will try and write-up (on dev's site) of what I was doing when it happened. It happened to me twice so I don't think I will use it again (at least until it's fixed). I am a backup freak so I like to use multiple apps but nandroid seems to cover it all. I will stick with what seems to work (and work well) for now.
On a side note, Cyan's latest looks too juicy not to try out. Going to upgrade now.
However ironic the title may be, I updated my fiance's non-rooted N1 to the official release froyo and from the very beginning, it will work for a few seconds, then it will just freeze for a few minutes. I have patiently gone through and stopped almost every process, and nothing will fix it. It still just freezes constantly and usually requires a battery pull to get it to work at all. I told her she could try a factory reset, but she would rather just go back to 2.1-update1. I'm going to try renaming 22607-ERD79-update-nexusone-stock-signed.zip (or PASSIMG_Passion_Google_WWE_1.01.1700.1_ERD79_release_signed.zip) to update.zip and reflashing it in the stock bootloader on her phone, but I feel like that won't work because it is a previous version and not really an update. Does anyone have any advice on how to just bring her back, or perhaps how to fix her freezing problems on froyo?
Thanks
Try a fresh flash with no apps installed and see how its doing.... if it doesn't freeze then its a app probably ...
I'd like to try that, but she doesn't want to do a fresh install. I'd imagine that if an app didn't freeze 2.1, it wouldn't freeze 2.2. Besides, 2.2 freezes even after killing all applications and services.
I guess I'm really looking for advice on getting it back to 2.1 without rooting her phone.
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I'd like to try that, but she doesn't want to do a fresh install. I'd imagine that if an app didn't freeze 2.1, it wouldn't freeze 2.2. Besides, 2.2 freezes even after killing all applications and services.
I guess I'm really looking for advice on getting it back to 2.1 without rooting her phone.
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Just do a factory reset in settings and security ... no reflash. Just cause a app didn't freeze 2?1 doesn't mean it wont freeze 2.2. And even if the apps currently not running or closed, it'll still wack ya phone. I had a freeze every hour yesterday with my chosen apps installed, flashed 3 different times to no avail. Now I factory reset with only 4 definitely needed apps installed and haven't gotten a freeze yet. So my conclusion is 2.2 doesn't like something I've installed so I'm adding a few apps every hour to fins the cause.
Since I factory reset with my few apps. I haven't had a freeze yet all night and morning long..
I'm having the same issue too. Not sure what is going on with FRF91, but my phone keeps freezing and I need to pull the battery to get it to respond again. I agree it very well could be an application, but installing every application one by one and testing would be a pain. Is there a better way to figure out what is causing the phone to lock up? Any time of log on the phone that would be helpful?
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I'm having the same issue too. Not sure what is going on with FRF91, but my phone keeps freezing and I need to pull the battery to get it to respond again. I agree it very well could be an application, but installing every application one by one and testing would be a pain. Is there a better way to figure out what is causing the phone to lock up? Any time of log on the phone that would be helpful?
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Have you tried a factory reset? That might fix it... let us know what you find. I've noticed a couple of freezes as well, but I'm not able to factory reset it just yet because I'm out of town and don't want my phone down for even half an hour.
I have to pull battery a couple of times a day.
I'm having the same issue on 2.2. I have done 2 factory resets. Nothing. N1 call center said slowly reinstall all apps to see if an app may be doing it. No luck.
Is anyone having issues with the screen still being responsive while on a call? My screen will go black but you cant still hit keys when you have up against your face.
I'm betting that you do not have a custom recovery and nandroid backup, or you wouldn't be asking.
I highly doubt that the phone will let you push the old firmware on top of the new one if you don't have a hacked recovery and a test-signed zip. But I don't know - you could try it...
Here is what I would do:
1. Install a custom recovery (like Amon-Ra 1.7.0.1), either by unlocking the bootloader, or by following the directions in the dev forum for doing this without unlocking if you have the fear. If you already a custom recovery, don't worry about this step.
2. Now boot into recovery and make a nand backup!
3. Now go ahead and try this one of two ways - either delete one application at a time until you figure out which one is killing you, OR do a factory reset and then re-add one application or a small number at a time until you figure out what is crashing you.
If it were me, with my 100 applications, I'd probably add 5 or 10 at a time. Once you get crashes after one group, try removing those applications one at a time until the crashes stop. The last removed app when the crashes stop should be the answer.
Of course, since you'll have to have adb running to get a nandroid, you could also just take a logcat of the running, crashing phone and see what app is killing it there.
I did a factory reset today and will report back letting everyone know if that has fixed the issue. Everyone else that is experiencing the freezing issue, did you have Beautiful Widgets installed?
I have that installed, is that whats cousing it?
Beautiful Widgets was killing my N1, too. Freezes, sluggishness, etc. I uninstalled and wiped my cache via stock recovery. No problems since.
I'm on stock FRF91 BTW.
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It appears that's the root of my issue. I would uninstall the application and clear the cache and see if that helps. Report back with your findings.
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I've been having this problem for about a week now where my search and home buttons stop working after a reboot or if the phone is powered on. I have been a longtime Enomther ROM user and this started happening after I did a routine backup. The last app I had installed was Widget Locker but I do not think this is the problem because: a) From reading through numerous forums, nobody has reported a similar issue because of WL & b) This happens even after I uninstalled the app and performed several clean installs of both CyanogenMod & Enomther's ROMs.
A factory wipe from Settings followed by a clean install of any ROM makes the problem go away but: rebooting to recovery to do a nandroid backup, restoring a nandroid backup, or turning the phone off then on again all recreate the issues with the search and home buttons. Can anyone give me any insight?
Note: I should probably call HTC Support, but because I have an unlocked bootloader I don't know what to tell them...
Htc support would do much for you, it sounds kinda obvious that's it isn't an issue with your phone but the intial rom/software/settings setup you have.
If you wipe and do a fresh install it is fine, correct? Your issues only come back when you restore the original you where having the issue with, right?
So what does that tell us...
Something got botched up along the way, or did I just completely misread.
How about this, backup everything with titanium & then wipe & do a clean install, then try restoring apps one by one, kinda a pain, but could help you narrow it down, unlikely it's an app problem, but stranger things have happened.
*Is that any nandroid backup or just the one you were having the intial problems with?
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Actually it happens when I restore any Nandroid backup, including ones from before I even had the problem. It definitely has to be a software issue, but I can't narrow down where the problem began. I thought it was Widget Locker, because of the Homehelper option, or LCD Density changer, but I stopped using those apps and it still persists. What I have been doing as I've tested my different backups and tested different ROMs is use the titanium backup restore option just to preserve my settings and apps. It's a pain, but I've been dealing with it.
Okay, so I think I finally got rid of the problem. *fingers crossed* I had to dig deep into the archives and found a nandroid backup from about two months ago that seems to be working well at the moment. I've done multiple reboots, messed with spare parts settings that required reboots, and all seems to be well. My long, individual nightmare is over.
I was just getting over the initial buyers remorse phase for my galaxy (or in my case, flashers remorse, even though I run stock JPY and it's fine, I have this urge to re-exchange it for a SLOWER stock Vodaphone Australia 2.2 version that's probably more buggy, but at least truly stock), when I drained my battery to 1% to test battery life, and shut it off manually.
On the walk back to the recharger in my room I accidentally turned it back on, and I immediately tried to turn it back off again, without letting it go past the 'GT-19000' logo in fear of the battery draining. It just restarted again and I decided to let it boot this time. Mistake. It then started to randomly vibrate and shut off apps (mainly, my live background, shake them all) left right and center then went straight back into default first-boot menu, like the very day I received the phone, or after a hard reset. The funny thing was, instead of having default values selected, it had the ones I had already put in. I thought it would be fine after that. Wrong.
I tried rebooting it again to see if it fixed itself, and it does the same with the forced closes. I uninstall my background and re-install it, and save some settings. When it boots it restores the live background back to it's stock settings (the live wallpaper I chose is still there, but the settings for it are not).
At this point I'm scratching my head so I uninstall all apps. This time on boot it doesn't throw up "force close" errors, but instead force-closes a single app or service for me on boot, with the one buzz, then three quick buzzes. Sigh... I have to factory reset my phone. One thing that particularly annoyed me was the fact I moved all my apps (AngryBirds ) to my external SD card, yet miraculously, after the reset my phone doesn't seem to think it's there anymore! Another thing I'm pondering is that if I didn't reset my phone like this, would this still have occurred?
Runs perfectly fine after the factory reset, with no errors or anything on boot as of yet. I have been compulsively rebooting it ever since just to find out, LOL!
Is this a 'normal' sort of thing to happen on the SGS, or is just through shear coincidence the combination of me restarting the phone in it's booting phase + the low battery life screwed up some boot settings while the phone was writing to it, or is it some hardware error? I can see this as particularly annoying if it were to happen every month or so. Coming from an old brick phone with something like 8000 messages on it, it'd be inconvenient to say the least to start deleting everything periodically... I guess I can use apps to back-up data when this occurs, but some apps don't even work after it's been erroring out on me. *Pulls hair out*
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Reset my phone while it was booting (still on the GT-I9000 screen) on a low (1%) battery and it broke my phone settings. Forced closes unknown app/service on boot with no 3rd party apps installed, but still boots to home. Force closes 3rd party apps frequently if they're installed. Factory Reset/Wipe. Problem Solved. Annoyed. RAGE.
next time something like this happens use adb logcat to figure out what is actually going wrong
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On the walk back to the recharger in my room I accidentally turned it back on, and I immediately tried to turn it back off again, without letting it go past the 'GT-19000' logo in fear of the battery draining. It just restarted again and I decided to let it boot this time. Mistake. It then started to randomly vibrate and shut off apps (mainly, my live background, shake them all) ...
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you are not alone . after draining battery , starting it accidently up (drained) in middle of booting , killed it for me, well not killed but wouldnt boot for me and I had to the the factory reset. oh and since the nice bzz ... bzz bzz bzz I hear more often I would like to ( here was I ignored crying about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937938 )
Yeah I'll definitely boot up logcat if it happens again. I'm just hoping this isn't a regular occurrence . As long as I don't do anything stupid like this again, I'm thinking it should be fine.
The third time this happens, it's going back to the service center, so it's got two chances left! Another thing I failed to mention was that it was chewing up like 200mb~ ram with level 1+2 ram cleared, without loading back into the homescreen, before the factory reset. Probably the stupid forced close app/service leaking >.>
Pagot, if that were me and continual factory resets were the only way to fix it (or didn't fix it) I'd flash it back to stock (or just remove root) and return it to the service center if that's an option. Sounds like something got corrupted or didn't get flashed properly. Either way I'd let THEM waste their time sorting it out because no amount of flashing is going to solve a hardware issue if it turns out to be one.
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(had stock, so just root removing) but I know how our service centers work (and I would have to bring it even to our carrier) they wouldnt even talk to me if I didnt do the factory reset and the first thing they would do "reflash and factory reset"
right now I am not playing on the phone so much anymore. no lust or time so no idae if my apps are still fcing so often . And I installed speedmod and made a backup so I can revert back if something happens. So will see.
Wanted to just write about the battery down +(or) not full boot = corruption
this seems to be happenning very ofthwn for my phone, and it hasn't disappeared even with using a different ROM or kernel.
I'm on tweaky's 2.3.5 JVS now, and I sometimes when I am in dialer and I type in 3 numbers, it just closes itself and shoots me back to the homescreen. it keeps doing that, and I'm unable to dial out because of this, until after a while and it irritates me to no end.
this also seemingly happens with me using whatsapp or Viber, where when I want to reply a message, after whatsapp has loaded up, it shoots me back to the home screen.
now, I've tries to get rid of my task killers, and saw no changes whatsoever, so can someone enlighten me on what's going on, and how to rectify this????
You say you did try a couple of roms, have you performed a factory reset or re-partition when flashing the roms?
Yes I did, all the time with Odin... Happenned with Darky, symply, simplicity, all of them
I wipe data and factory reset, even format the storage.
I'm not sure but as you said you've tried to change both rom and kernal yet there seems to be some sort of constant.
Are you backing up your apps accounts data etc and then restoring data? or the apps themselves? Because this can cause in-compatibilities.
If you do then start from scratch install only apps but only from market and one by one. Try play around half a day or something (or if you know a definite trigger see if it happens) if nothing then install another of your old apps.
Also have you tried installing no apps just use those that came with the rom. If it still happens after everything has been wiped (cache, dalvik cache, repartition, format sd, no external sd) then im inclined to say its hardware... When did this start happening?
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I back up my applications using Appmonster, and this retains just the program itself, I reset everything back to how it was after I wipe.
I'm not sure, I tried to think on whether its an issue with like lacking of ram or something, because SOMETIMES it behaves after I kill of some apps and free up some RAM.
I also thought it might have been a task manager which is doing it but uninstalled that and nothing changed.
I tried to install the programs slowly and individuality and it was a VERY slow and painful process, and it got me really nowhere, as like after i uninstalled and backtracked it still happenned.
I was wondering to myself if it was app incompatibility, as I have a relatively large list of apps installed.
It doesn't seem to do it if its fresh, so I'm not too sure myself.
Any ideas per se? Maybe a list of my installed apps? IDK I'm trying to find a solution to this.
At this rate I'm tempted to get a new phone
No harm in sharing the list of apps I guess, maybe someone more knowledgeable can give you a hand with that info.
Okay, But are there known apps that do this to the system? doesn't seem to happen for games but for Dialer and Whatsapp and Viber.
Everything else just works peach.
I just realised it might take more than a while, perhaps I will try a slow install of only the absolute necessities then.
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
hamsteyr said:
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
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It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
That's really strange then.
Perhaps its the combination of apps... I don't know, I'll try getting rid of the unnecessary and see if it'll cause the same issues.
dialpad problem and other
sas_sas said:
It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
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good to me the same thing happened to good use Viber but not if I used other application in restored times I have installed from scratch I have used several JVS rom and even some custom rom and also jvr stock but it is more about the JVS rom because jvr step with me after a few occasions,
JVS install and initially as well but in the kernel changes and custom rom rom that has happened to me in all I've used lately.