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Pandora is Coming!!

http://tomconrad.net/2009/06/16/pandora-for-android-its-coming/
Finally we will be able to share in the love.

oh ive been waiting since i got the phone.
One thing i hope doesnt happen. I had pandora on a winmo device and sound quality was horrible i hope thats not the case for us now.

I hope it comes soon. Just googled pandora,tried it,and now I love it. Does have a .jar of of a mobile version already out? I'd like to see if I can get that to work while i wait.

I think it does. youll have to do a seach on it though.

otto888 said:
I hope it comes soon. Just googled pandora,tried it,and now I love it. Does have a .jar of of a mobile version already out? I'd like to see if I can get that to work while i wait.
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I tried using the J2me converter in the market but this are my results on this thread. I have the JAR hosted if someone wants to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498540&highlight=pandora&page=2

Hopefully it will stream ok on EDGE. Im excited about this one!!!!

Open the box now!1!
Oh yummy. I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve, can't wait to open pandora's box. One app I've been dying to get my hands on since I got a G1. Hack away at that jarfile.

speoples20 said:
http://tomconrad.net/2009/06/16/pandora-for-android-its-coming/
Finally we will be able to share in the love.
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Tell me why I should use this over Last.Fm
I have been using last.fm for a few years now, its the single best thing about XBMC. What does pandora do that last.fm does not?
Last.Fm bitrate is very clear and stable, android players take a bit to buffer but this is related to hardware not software. It has just about EVERYTHING I have ever searched for and I have searched for some little known punkrock bands.

The thing I hate about pandora on my friends iphone is the damn skip limit. When I showed him last.fm he was amazed I could skip tracks forever.

evilkorn said:
The thing I hate about pandora on my friends iphone is the damn skip limit. When I showed him last.fm he was amazed I could skip tracks forever.
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So what your saying is.... There is no reason to be excited at all. Unless you have never used last.fm that is.

If there's a skip limit I'll stick with last.fm, that's a deal killer so no thanks to this and eyemeem

don't overlook the most important aspect of Pandora...
The Music Genome Project, an ambitious attempt at mapping the things that have influenced the artists we all listen to. I've been exposed to great music I likely would not have heard had it not been for The MGP.

atleast last.fm works in the uk, just tried pandora website now and it says no longer available outside the US

Qik for Android now in the market

You can now stream video straight from your phone to the internet. Search for qik in the marketplace. This is the same video streaming app that is available on the iphone and it works like a charm. I dont think there is sound though, just images, anyone willing to check it out, im at work

Played with it some.. There is audio. Video quality is decent, speed is poor. Stuttered and stalled often too (streaming via WiFi to Qik, PC I was viewing on was wired to a different broadband connection and both links should have had more than enough bandwidth).
Looks fun - will try again in a few days, hopefully it's just bogged down today since it was just released to a new platform.
Oh, and lag ... I haven't used many webcam / streaming apps, but I had the impression they went faster than this usually.. Shortest lag was 10-15 seconds, typically the stream ran more like 30 - 90 sec behind. Again, looked cool enough that I'll give it a few days or so and try again.

testing it now......

Damn it i cant find it on the market.

driguez said:
Damn it i cant find it on the market.
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go to market and search qik

jay22are said:
go to market and search qik
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Thanx that did it. I wonder why sometimes new apps are not bumped to the top on the by date tab, we might be missing out on some great apps.

driguez said:
Thanx that did it. I wonder why sometimes new apps are not bumped to the top on the by date tab, we might be missing out on some great apps.
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it wasnt the newest app on the market right now...so you had to scroll down some more to see the qik app..anyway i tested the live stream real quick on wifi..it seems a bit slow and sound was not great...will test some more

Wow..... This app is amazing!

awesume app, i believe it does have sound

Saiboogu said:
Played with it some.. There is audio. Video quality is decent, speed is poor. Stuttered and stalled often too (streaming via WiFi to Qik, PC I was viewing on was wired to a different broadband connection and both links should have had more than enough bandwidth).
Looks fun - will try again in a few days, hopefully it's just bogged down today since it was just released to a new platform.
Oh, and lag ... I haven't used many webcam / streaming apps, but I had the impression they went faster than this usually.. Shortest lag was 10-15 seconds, typically the stream ran more like 30 - 90 sec behind. Again, looked cool enough that I'll give it a few days or so and try again.
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what can i say its a phone.some ppl ask for a whole lot from a phone. i think its a cool app for some ppl who don't get to c there family that live far away.yall need to stop being so damn ungrateful

Noone is being ungrateful. Someone offered a review of the app, just like anyone else would, unless you want to provide one yourself and sound like you're riding someones nutsack rather than giving a review. But that's just my opinion, just like you have yours. Good day

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what can i say its a phone.some ppl ask for a whole lot from a phone. i think its a cool app for some ppl who don't get to c there family that live far away.yall need to stop being so damn ungrateful
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I'm very grateful for this free app. Better? Seriously, I wasn't trashing it - just giving honest feedback. And if you'd read it again, you see I'm making excuses for most of the bad things about the app (newly released to Android, their servers may have been busy -- plus it may need optimization).
Anyway, yeah - I know it's a phone. But it's got more horsepower and RAM than the first few PCs I owned, combined -- so I know firsthand there's enough power in this thing to do some awesome stuff. I get excited when I see an app like Qik that tries to push the envelope a bit. I hope they do get it optimized and working better.

Why hasn't a Flash Player been developed??

All I'm looking for is a standard flash player that would play .flv, .swf and h.264 files from video channels like YouTube, Vimeo, Exposure Room, etc...
They all use a standard flash player which streams, or downloads the files so it shouldn't be that difficult to implement I would think.
The Hero rom has already shown a flash player that works, basically as a plugin to the browser, so there must be a way to port it to the other roms.

I'd like to see this too.

wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.

I found the Hero one to be usable, but only just. The sound seems ok, but the picture is a bit stuttery. It will be interesting to see if it's really the old hardware used in the Hero that's not up to it, or whether a differnt app can do better. I hear that the beebplayer is also poor on the Hero - not tried it yet - so perhaps it's the hardware?

bbuchacher said:
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
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can you please provide a link to this article?

there is one check the market

Yeah, I had no luck what so ever trying to play video from any of the top video sharing websites, due to the fact that the player version was 8.0. I did however have great success with viewing flash-based websites (typically exported as Flash 8 or earlier for compatibility).
That is going to be an issue that the Flash player will have to contend with when it is released in October. The player will have to be updated regularly everytime a new version of Flash comes out. Hopefully Adobe will stay on top of that, or the player will become obsolete very quickly.

I hope you don't mean the Android7 Flash Player in the market?
http://www.cyrket.com/package/org.android7.flashplayer
It will play an .flv and what not, but you would have to have the file locally on your phone.
It isn't a browser-based solution where you can click on a video link and then launch the player to begin streaming, or downloading the video like you can with the YouTube player.
That is what we need, only for any website that is hosting a flash-based video. Either that, or these websites have to begin offering free downloads of the original uploaded videos.
We saw a sneak peak of what's to come with the flash-enabled Hero rom, but like we all know, that is only for version 8.

Actually, the Flash Player in Hero is so far pretty sufficient, it actually can play YouTube videos, you just have to click on the video itself and it will open in the Flash player.
However, I do agree, further development would be nice. For example, when on sites like Myspace, I would like to hear some profile music playing, it would just in total add to the whole "internet phone" concept.

Do0zman said:
can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/

the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol

makes me sad...
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?

Flash, being proprietary closed source crap, is contrary to the nature of android. Adobe has in the past been VERY slow in supporting new platforms, so quite frankly, it really should die altogether. There are plenty of open source alternatives for flash-type content that can be used instead. Instead of complaining here, you should complain to the content provider who chose to use that crap format.

Do0zman said:
can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://gizmodo.com/5300800/flash-for-android-webos-landing-in-october
tuto0503 said:
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
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hulu blocked mobile devices. so no phone can veiw hulu anymore. i dont know why they would do that but sadly they did
kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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if it was a winmo phone then he can do it because he was using skyfire. his phone doesnt have flash but skyfires servers do.
skyfire uses proxy servers to intercept browser requests which are then compressed and sent to skyfire enabled phones. the proxy server technology has the smarts to take flash video/games, java and other desktop class features that normally slow down mobile browsers dramatically, if those features are even supported, and render them correctly, truly giving mobile users flash.

The one on hero is pretty good, you can play games on sites and stuff, but looking forward to 10 coming out

kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.

nupagadi1 said:
Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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not sure, I'll ask him though.

farmville wont work

On froyo but it will work for flash lite

OH dear lord!

Another worthless threat!

God almighty.. these farmers are ****ing everywhere..

I bet it works just fine on the iPhone. Well, any application dealing with livestock, most likely. Those tend to be fairly popular with the Apple sheeple.

I don't play Farmville, but I dislike, in principle, when sites that are supposed to support flash still put up "not supported" messages on my Nexus One running Froyo.
I've set the UAgent to Desktop and it still gets me. How does Farmville know what I'm running? Any way to really persuade these kinds of sites that we're running on a desktop?

honestly. i dont play farmville. but i was curious and just tried it. Its a pity it works on flash lite. ****in shame on you nexus.

jm1999 said:
honestly. i dont play farmville. but i was curious and just tried it. Its a pity it works on flash lite. ****in shame on you nexus.
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Um, does anyone bother to read the word BETA right next to Adobe Flash 10.1.
If something things don't work or they are choppy on a beta program, it's probably because it is a beta program.

OMG please someone close or delete this thread
my favorite porn site isn't working either, THIS is a real problem

watercool said:
OMG please someone close or delete this thread
my favorite porn site isn't working either, THIS is a real problem
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QFMFT!!!!
Now that truly is the REAL problem.

WTF ... How come Apple always has a leg up??

OK. So yesterday I watched this hilarious link on the Apple Iphone4 on my computer.
Hitler mad with Steve Jobs
I sent this link to my friend as a text message to his iphone 3G which is upgraded to the IOS4 now.
Lo and behold, when he clicked on the link, the flash video was playing on this Iphone 3G.
I tried the link on my HTC Pure, it brought up Opera and simply gave me the message that I need to upgrade to Flash 10. Yeah right.... There is no Flash 10 for the PPC platform.
WTF

Because your friends iphone saw the link as a youtube video and ran it through their special iyoutube player to watch it. Where on your HTC you have opera and it doesn't really support youtube without plugins. I would try skyfire, or just use your own youtube app. WM youtube apps 100 times better the the iphone youtube low resolution app. So when he ran you link, the virtual steve jobs appeared and rerouted his link to play in youtube, where as is always true with windows, it does what you tell it to do. You told it to open a link in opera, and thats what it did. I persoanlly don't want the CEO of HTC to be deciding what app I open what with. It really all depends on how much spoon feeding you want your phone to do. If you want to not think about anything and have it just work or not work, go iphone. If you want to work on it and tinker with it to make anything work, WM's you choice.

Yeah. Emailed it to myself and it worked fine on my EVO... Looks like Apple only "Always has a leg up" only on you. ;-)

this is not a youtube video...
It is Vimeo.
and it ran it through the quicktime player.

maxpower097 said:
Because your friends iphone saw the link as a youtube video and ran it through their special iyoutube player to watch it. Where on your HTC you have opera and it doesn't really support youtube without plugins. I would try skyfire, or just use your own youtube app. WM youtube apps 100 times better the the iphone youtube low resolution app. So when he ran you link, the virtual steve jobs appeared and rerouted his link to play in youtube, where as is always true with windows, it does what you tell it to do. You told it to open a link in opera, and thats what it did. I persoanlly don't want the CEO of HTC to be deciding what app I open what with. It really all depends on how much spoon feeding you want your phone to do. If you want to not think about anything and have it just work or not work, go iphone. If you want to work on it and tinker with it to make anything work, WM's you choice.
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I love to tinker.
so tell me how to play a Vimeo video on my WM6.5.3 phone? I am not quite sure how.

chikoo said:
I love to tinker.
so tell me how to play a Vimeo video on my WM6.5.3 phone? I am not quite sure how.
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waiting for answer to my question....any help?

chikoo said:
waiting for answer to my question....any help?
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to put it plain......
dunno!

So iphone does have a leg up....

No, they obviously just have an app that plays a veriety of streaming sites. I dont know why you think its a big deal.
edit: ahh there you go see what a 5 second google search can do: Vimeo uses HTML 5 as well as flash http://www.macworld.com/article/145836/2010/01/vimeo_html5.html

chikoo said:
So iphone does have a leg up....
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Not really. I hear Android has a flash player.... not that I would know or anything.

Vimeo has a special version of the website for iPhone/iPad. It looks up User Agent; and if it finds out iPhone is used, it brings up a compatible version of the site. Many website do this, especially for iPhone because it is popular and doesn't support flash.
The video here was .mp4 for iphone as it is nativity supported.
http://vimeo.com/blog:265
Also Vimeo has a version for Android, while Youtube has mobile version for almost every device.
P.S. If you use Firefox you can change your User Agent with User Agent Switcher for example.

So what is the user agent for the iphone?
i'll stick it on my Opera for WM and see if it works!

Alexander-HTC said:
Vimeo has a special version of the website for iPhone/iPad. It looks up User Agent; and if it finds out iPhone is used, it brings up a compatible version of the site. Many website do this, especially for iPhone because it is popular and doesn't support flash.
The video here was .mp4 for iphone as it is nativity supported.
http://vimeo.com/blog:265
Also Vimeo has a version for Android, while Youtube has mobile version for almost every device.
P.S. If you use Firefox you can change your User Agent with User Agent Switcher for example.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Once upon a time I remarked that websites will change to accommodate the iphone/ipad's non-flash OS and not the other way around, much to everyone's disbelief. I guess I see that happening now.