All I'm looking for is a standard flash player that would play .flv, .swf and h.264 files from video channels like YouTube, Vimeo, Exposure Room, etc...
They all use a standard flash player which streams, or downloads the files so it shouldn't be that difficult to implement I would think.
The Hero rom has already shown a flash player that works, basically as a plugin to the browser, so there must be a way to port it to the other roms.
I'd like to see this too.
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
I found the Hero one to be usable, but only just. The sound seems ok, but the picture is a bit stuttery. It will be interesting to see if it's really the old hardware used in the Hero that's not up to it, or whether a differnt app can do better. I hear that the beebplayer is also poor on the Hero - not tried it yet - so perhaps it's the hardware?
bbuchacher said:
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
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can you please provide a link to this article?
there is one check the market
Yeah, I had no luck what so ever trying to play video from any of the top video sharing websites, due to the fact that the player version was 8.0. I did however have great success with viewing flash-based websites (typically exported as Flash 8 or earlier for compatibility).
That is going to be an issue that the Flash player will have to contend with when it is released in October. The player will have to be updated regularly everytime a new version of Flash comes out. Hopefully Adobe will stay on top of that, or the player will become obsolete very quickly.
I hope you don't mean the Android7 Flash Player in the market?
http://www.cyrket.com/package/org.android7.flashplayer
It will play an .flv and what not, but you would have to have the file locally on your phone.
It isn't a browser-based solution where you can click on a video link and then launch the player to begin streaming, or downloading the video like you can with the YouTube player.
That is what we need, only for any website that is hosting a flash-based video. Either that, or these websites have to begin offering free downloads of the original uploaded videos.
We saw a sneak peak of what's to come with the flash-enabled Hero rom, but like we all know, that is only for version 8.
Actually, the Flash Player in Hero is so far pretty sufficient, it actually can play YouTube videos, you just have to click on the video itself and it will open in the Flash player.
However, I do agree, further development would be nice. For example, when on sites like Myspace, I would like to hear some profile music playing, it would just in total add to the whole "internet phone" concept.
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can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
makes me sad...
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
Flash, being proprietary closed source crap, is contrary to the nature of android. Adobe has in the past been VERY slow in supporting new platforms, so quite frankly, it really should die altogether. There are plenty of open source alternatives for flash-type content that can be used instead. Instead of complaining here, you should complain to the content provider who chose to use that crap format.
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http://gizmodo.com/5300800/flash-for-android-webos-landing-in-october
tuto0503 said:
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
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hulu blocked mobile devices. so no phone can veiw hulu anymore. i dont know why they would do that but sadly they did
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yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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if it was a winmo phone then he can do it because he was using skyfire. his phone doesnt have flash but skyfires servers do.
skyfire uses proxy servers to intercept browser requests which are then compressed and sent to skyfire enabled phones. the proxy server technology has the smarts to take flash video/games, java and other desktop class features that normally slow down mobile browsers dramatically, if those features are even supported, and render them correctly, truly giving mobile users flash.
The one on hero is pretty good, you can play games on sites and stuff, but looking forward to 10 coming out
kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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not sure, I'll ask him though.
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Please try this if you are suffering problems with video playback on your Kaiser (NOT VIDEO GAMES).
Go to the OFFICIAL DivX website and download the latest full package. Try out the DivX converter using the setting 'Mobile' (you can try it for a period then if you like it you can then purchase it).
This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site!
I can play any movie file over WiFi from my WLHDD2.5 in perfect rendition (for a PDA) after doing this with the basic TCPMP set to GDI playback.
JUST GIVE IT A TRY, you have nothing to lose!!!
EDIT..Use the .81 version of TCPMP if you can get it, buffer processing is faster.
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Please try this if you are suffering problems with video playback on your Kaiser (NOT VIDEO GAMES).
Go to the OFFICIAL DivX website and download the latest full package. Try out the DivX converter using the setting 'Mobile' (you can try it for a period then if you like it you can then purchase it).
This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site!
I can play any movie file over WiFi from my WLHDD2.5 in perfect rendition (for a PDA) after doing this with the basic TCPMP set to GDI playback.
JUST GIVE IT A TRY, you have nothing to lose!!!
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Again, we all know we can view videos at a good speed after having converted them. But our Kaiser should read them with no conversion at all.
We have enough solutions to convert videos, thanks for this one, but it is just one more ...
dizzy33 said:
Again, we all know we can view videos at a good speed after having converted them. But our Kaiser should read them with no conversion at all.
We have enough solutions to convert videos, thanks for this one, but it is just one more ...
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I can not assist the mentally blocked so please do not give negatives until people have had time to try it THANKS!!
One would like to ask where it is said that Windows Mobile plays un-converted files??? It is primarily designed to sync via Windows media player.(as is the iSpudge with its PC software)..All other video playback is user selected and not fully supported. No lawsuit here I'm afraid...
OH, and BTW, did you selectively miss this in the first post???
'This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site! '
deleted ....problem solved.... i am just too stupid lol
samlee860407 said:
hm....my kaiser cant play the file that i converted using divx ....
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If you used the OFFICIAL DiVx converter in the latest DiVx full package, it would play with any TCPMP! You have some setup problem there buddy...
Farsquidge said:
If you used the OFFICIAL DiVx converter in the latest DiVx full package, it would play with any TCPMP! You have some setup problem there buddy...
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yes...i just firgue it out that i cant double click the converted file and expect it to play @@
then i try to edit before you post...but then again i din click the post button...lol
anyway...thanks alot bro
the quality is good, just that nid to spend some time to convert
btw, Farsquidge, did you use core media player before?
samlee860407 said:
yes...i just firgue it out that i cant double click the converted file and expect it to play @@
then i try to edit before you post...but then again i din click the post button...lol
anyway...thanks alot bro
the quality is good, just that nid to spend some time to convert
btw, Farsquidge, did you use core media player before?
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No, I am stuck here with TCPMP until I get back to UK to purchase the new Coreplayer as my cred card wont work from the UAE online.
I am just trying to pass on any workarounds I find to others. I expect a massive factor of improvement when I get it but anything before that will also help others.
ah....massive improvement huh
is coreplayer really that good?
really wish to try it, only if i no need to pay 1st
but then the divx convertor is really easy to use, just that it takes time to convert
CorePlayer
samlee860407 said:
is coreplayer really that good?
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Definitely !
Cheers
hrb
samlee860407 said:
ah....massive improvement huh
is coreplayer really that good?
really wish to try it, only if i no need to pay 1st
but then the divx convertor is really easy to use, just that it takes time to convert
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Yep, it does!! But has patience been lost? We are developers... Not miracle workers.. Even iTunes takes full control of the other type of unit (COMPLETELY!) to convert...I think the fact we still have a factor of control on our devices to CHOOSE is befuddling people... If it was all fully auto then XDA would no longer exist!!!
ahh....hehe, good good
well...maybe coz i am converting prison break and stuff which is quite big in file....hehe
thanks all again
Farsquidge said:
One would like to ask where it is said that Windows Mobile plays un-converted files??? It is primarily designed to sync via Windows media player.(as is the iSpudge with its PC software)..All other video playback is user selected and not fully supported. No lawsuit here I'm afraid...
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Video??? I can't even get WMP to sync more than 30 songs before dropping the connection. It took me 5 nights of sitting there reconnecting every 90 minutes or so just to get 4GB of music synced up. I have to say, this is one job the iPhone handles WAY, WAY, WAY better. The whole MS thing is just sad and disappointing.
It's funny that everyone talks about how it is nice to be able to install 3rd party apps to make your device better. Yes, you can not yet install 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but the biggest point is, in many case you don't need to. The browser works great, chat works great, music playback works great, video playback works great, google maps work great, email works great, etc....
My suggestion for video on the Kaiser is, don't waste your time with it. I have wasted 10s of hours trying and it is just not worth it. I have tried 6 different encoders including DivX, Pocket Divx, Handbrake, 4 different file types and countless bitrates, framerates and codecs.
tbh,i would really wanted an iphone but there are some major flaw that why i din buy it although its my dream phone
1st, its not available in my place officially(only can get cracked version), no 3g, no mms,can edit word,excel and blah blah
and although i dont knw will i face the same problem when i am syncing songs, as i haven try yet
but no, you dont need to waste 10hours to get ur kaiser to play video
just downlaod tctm, install it in kaiser
download divx, convert it as the 1st post says so, then upload to ur device...done
less then 30minutes all done
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Video??? I can't even get WMP to sync more than 30 songs before dropping the connection. It took me 5 nights of sitting there reconnecting every 90 minutes or so just to get 4GB of music synced up. I have to say, this is one job the iPhone handles WAY, WAY, WAY better. The whole MS thing is just sad and disappointing.
It's funny that everyone talks about how it is nice to be able to install 3rd party apps to make your device better. Yes, you can not yet install 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but the biggest point is, in many case you don't need to. The browser works great, chat works great, music playback works great, video playback works great, google maps work great, email works great, etc....
My suggestion for video on the Kaiser is, don't waste your time with it. I have wasted 10s of hours trying and it is just not worth it. I have tried 6 different encoders including DivX, Pocket Divx, Handbrake, 4 different file types and countless bitrates, framerates and codecs.
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OK, BUT, please don't express your opinion until you have tested this yourself and posted any problems with it! Let others decide???
Many thanks..
That's a great idea, Farsquidge!
I know this topic has been covered extensively (see here), but all applications which provide help to the user are welcome.
A freeware alternative is available, too, which you may be interested in (and requires a bit of tweaking for us tech-inclined): http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
vpoet said:
That's a great idea, Farsquidge!
I know this topic has been covered extensively (see here), but all applications which provide help to the user are welcome.
A freeware alternative is available, too, which you may be interested in (and requires a bit of tweaking for us tech-inclined): http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
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I hope some can use this to move forward.
Best thing I have from you is the sig tag... Just taken it as my mother died 15/01/08 of cancer so have joined your group.
Farsquidge said:
I hope some can use this to move forward.
Best thing I have from you is the sig tag... Just taken it as my mother died 15/01/08 of cancer so have joined your group.
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I am so sorry for your loss. My mother had breast cancer year before last, and my grandmother before her. It's great to know, though, that our children may have no need to worry about such a devastating disease with the research our generations are putting into this area. God bless you, Farsquidge!
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I am so sorry for your loss. My mother had breast cancer year before last, and my grandmother before her. It's great to know, though, that our children may have no need to worry about such a devastating disease with the research our generations are putting into this area. God bless you, Farsquidge!
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Thanks, I have her in my heart always, and, as we were both from Yorkshire, England...she would say, 'If you don't mean what you say, I will tan your hide!!'
She was a pearl!!!
I use a product called "Wondershare DVD Ripper Suite" (has a ripper and a converter) and it has a nice batch feature as well. I have also had success with "SPB DVD" and "DVD to PocketPC" by a company called Makayama. "Ashampoo Shrink and Burn 3" does fine for me as well. Also, I have noticed that Windows Media Player performs some type of conversion/compression when syncing. For example, "Star Wars 3" is a 855 MB WMV file, but when I synced it to my device it was only 359 MB. However, when I transferred the original 855 MB file to my storage card using a card reader it was still 855 MB - what is Windows Media Player doing besides syncing?
ellergek said:
what is Windows Media Player doing besides syncing?
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It is probably doing its best to convert a video file (of which there are MANY formats) to the preferred WM AVI PDA format. If you do not have the corresponding CODEC in your PC WM player it will not even try..Everyone has to try to standardise their media format for the player designate. If you expect the file you have on your PC/Laptop to play the same on your portable device 100% without conversion then I am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land! The processor speed and video codecs are radically different for WM devices against full Windows machines. (irrespective of any driver omission before anyone starts!!)
Aspect Ratio is not only for screen playback... it is for what you expect from your device....
Sup all i was reating BGR and i saw this
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/16/eyetv-has-backdoor-built-in-allows-streaming-over-3g/
its a app for the Iphone that you can watch TV over 3g with and i've seen a few other apps that was for the Iphone that got ported to the G1 so maybe its possible to do this one also
GO GO GADGET PORT!!
there allready si a tv app for android but it only has like 2 chanels on the trial version. the full version has a ton i saw it on one of the android news sites a few months ago...
i've try that but it isn't good as it sound horrible picture and wont play 4 more than 5 minutes buffering all the time uninstalled refund not worth $10
Freedomcaller said:
there allready si a tv app for android but it only has like 2 chanels on the trial version. the full version has a ton i saw it on one of the android news sites a few months ago...
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That is true, there are actually 2 TV apps in the market. SPB TV and Television. Both of them are HORRIBLE. I mean seriously, who in the US is interested in Al Jazeerah TV? or the christian programming channel? C'mon. Those apps have the worst channels I've seen. with like 10 24 hour news channels in all sorts of languages. I guess if you have nothing better to do it is worth turning on, but not paying for it.
This is just an opinion from a new yorkers POV
RanT476 said:
Sup all i was reating BGR and i saw this
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/16/eyetv-has-backdoor-built-in-allows-streaming-over-3g/
its a app for the Iphone that you can watch TV over 3g with and i've seen a few other apps that was for the Iphone that got ported to the G1 so maybe its possible to do this one also
GO GO GADGET PORT!!
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EyeTV is an USB TV Tuner for Mac and‚ (possibly PC) that allows you to watch TV on your computer. The iphone app appears to stream data from your computer to your iphone rather than streaming directly from an internet feed. So although this is very useful, it is probably slightly different to what you're looking for.
In the UK we have a decent BBC TV app which will stream over wifi and 3G (dependent on your provider).
Hmmmmm anyone tried streaming over the web from Hulu or fancast...... both are free.
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ooops both need flash to work. I guess we will have to wait for the long awaited plugin promised by Adobe
Orb.com works in android via the browser... no app needed.
mjpolgar said:
Orb.com works in android via the browser... no app needed.
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How does it work, if you don't mind me asking. Thanks
You install the Orb server software on your home PC, as well as a TV tuner card. The orb server software is able to stream the tv signal from the tuner card over the internet via .3gp to your phone. Check out their website and search for "android orb" in google. There's tons of threads about it.
Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
how do you watch vuivision on your phone? i went there, enter my email, chose a network, and it failed to launched. says webpage cannot open. this is all through the phone's browser. is there any special method to use it?
pgiuoco said:
Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
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I use Beebplayer, basically non-proprietary BBC iplayer with old recordings... plus live BBC channels.
Fab
pgiuoco said:
Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
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on our phones or computer?
no6969el said:
on our phones or computer?
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On your phone.
how do you do that? care to explain a little more? it'd be awesome if i could stream some soccer games right to my phone!
NguyenHuu said:
how do you watch vuivision on your phone? i went there, enter my email, chose a network, and it failed to launched. says webpage cannot open. this is all through the phone's browser. is there any special method to use it?
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worked for me, opened up in browser and when I clicked on station it opened up video player. used on 3g
(cyanogen 4.2)
holly yeah it worked not many channel yet but better than none thanks 4 the link
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Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
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damn thanks man, only a couple of channels, but they're the major ones, so that's awesome!!
pgiuoco said:
Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
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Many thanks for the tip... Works like a charm through my Steel browser. Just navigate through your web browser to the site, enter your email and you're good to go. Also pretty decent video quality and no lagging with only 2 bars on T-Mo 3G..
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still waiting for sling to grow a pair and release an app for android....
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Heard back from Sling today on an Android app and they basically said no way it's happening because Android is Linux based and not windows based. Here is the email I got:
As we understand, you want to know if the Slingbox will support the Android Operating System and Mobile device any time soon. We will be more than willing to assist you.
Android is a software platform and operating system for mobile devices, based on the Linux Operating System, developed by Google and later the Open Handset Alliance. It allows developers to write managed code in a Java-like language that utilizes Google-developed Java libraries, but does not support programs developed in native code.
Most of the supported cell phones run on Windows OS. Since Android runs on Linux OS, it is not compatible with the SlingPlayer. Therefore, Slingbox will not support it.
If you require further assistance, feel free to visit http://support.slingmedia.com or contact us at 1-877-GO-SLING (877-467-5464) Monday through Sunday 7am-7pm Pacific Time.
For future reference your case number is XXXXXX.
Best regards,
Randall
Sling Media Technical Support.
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Any information on a mobile player for Android?
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OK. So yesterday I watched this hilarious link on the Apple Iphone4 on my computer.
Hitler mad with Steve Jobs
I sent this link to my friend as a text message to his iphone 3G which is upgraded to the IOS4 now.
Lo and behold, when he clicked on the link, the flash video was playing on this Iphone 3G.
I tried the link on my HTC Pure, it brought up Opera and simply gave me the message that I need to upgrade to Flash 10. Yeah right.... There is no Flash 10 for the PPC platform.
WTF
Because your friends iphone saw the link as a youtube video and ran it through their special iyoutube player to watch it. Where on your HTC you have opera and it doesn't really support youtube without plugins. I would try skyfire, or just use your own youtube app. WM youtube apps 100 times better the the iphone youtube low resolution app. So when he ran you link, the virtual steve jobs appeared and rerouted his link to play in youtube, where as is always true with windows, it does what you tell it to do. You told it to open a link in opera, and thats what it did. I persoanlly don't want the CEO of HTC to be deciding what app I open what with. It really all depends on how much spoon feeding you want your phone to do. If you want to not think about anything and have it just work or not work, go iphone. If you want to work on it and tinker with it to make anything work, WM's you choice.
Yeah. Emailed it to myself and it worked fine on my EVO... Looks like Apple only "Always has a leg up" only on you. ;-)
this is not a youtube video...
It is Vimeo.
and it ran it through the quicktime player.
maxpower097 said:
Because your friends iphone saw the link as a youtube video and ran it through their special iyoutube player to watch it. Where on your HTC you have opera and it doesn't really support youtube without plugins. I would try skyfire, or just use your own youtube app. WM youtube apps 100 times better the the iphone youtube low resolution app. So when he ran you link, the virtual steve jobs appeared and rerouted his link to play in youtube, where as is always true with windows, it does what you tell it to do. You told it to open a link in opera, and thats what it did. I persoanlly don't want the CEO of HTC to be deciding what app I open what with. It really all depends on how much spoon feeding you want your phone to do. If you want to not think about anything and have it just work or not work, go iphone. If you want to work on it and tinker with it to make anything work, WM's you choice.
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I love to tinker.
so tell me how to play a Vimeo video on my WM6.5.3 phone? I am not quite sure how.
chikoo said:
I love to tinker.
so tell me how to play a Vimeo video on my WM6.5.3 phone? I am not quite sure how.
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waiting for answer to my question....any help?
chikoo said:
waiting for answer to my question....any help?
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to put it plain......
dunno!
So iphone does have a leg up....
No, they obviously just have an app that plays a veriety of streaming sites. I dont know why you think its a big deal.
edit: ahh there you go see what a 5 second google search can do: Vimeo uses HTML 5 as well as flash http://www.macworld.com/article/145836/2010/01/vimeo_html5.html
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So iphone does have a leg up....
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Not really. I hear Android has a flash player.... not that I would know or anything.
Vimeo has a special version of the website for iPhone/iPad. It looks up User Agent; and if it finds out iPhone is used, it brings up a compatible version of the site. Many website do this, especially for iPhone because it is popular and doesn't support flash.
The video here was .mp4 for iphone as it is nativity supported.
http://vimeo.com/blog:265
Also Vimeo has a version for Android, while Youtube has mobile version for almost every device.
P.S. If you use Firefox you can change your User Agent with User Agent Switcher for example.
So what is the user agent for the iphone?
i'll stick it on my Opera for WM and see if it works!
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Vimeo has a special version of the website for iPhone/iPad. It looks up User Agent; and if it finds out iPhone is used, it brings up a compatible version of the site. Many website do this, especially for iPhone because it is popular and doesn't support flash.
The video here was .mp4 for iphone as it is nativity supported.
http://vimeo.com/blog:265
Also Vimeo has a version for Android, while Youtube has mobile version for almost every device.
P.S. If you use Firefox you can change your User Agent with User Agent Switcher for example.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Once upon a time I remarked that websites will change to accommodate the iphone/ipad's non-flash OS and not the other way around, much to everyone's disbelief. I guess I see that happening now.
Been a lurker for a while now. This is worthy of my first post. I found a flash 10.1 apk and it works. Not incredibly fast for flash games but it does work. I cant post links but I think you can figure it out.
getandroidstuff.com/2010/06/adobe-flash-101-full-support-for.html
Now I did not make this and don't know who did so use at your own risk. I have only been playing with it for a day and haven't seen any ill effects yet. All I know is it works.
" Android 2.2 comes with the new feature for full flash support. Here how it's work google just integrated a plugin called com.google.android.feature.GOOGLE_PLUGIN. And Flash uses it to embed itself inside browser. So browser in android 2.1 mobile phones does not see plugin. Now if you are owner of Android 2.1 or 2.0 smartphone then download the Adobe Flash 10.1 apk application below and get full flash support for your Android 2.1 or 2.0 mobiles.
BUT!There's another thing inside - a permission called android.webkit.permission.PLUGIN. It is already used by Flash Lite on HTC devices. So this app will replace the lite version of flash and will work with full feature.
Or get it here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6569529&postcount=16
razr315 said:
This totally broke my browser using CM6 RC1
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Same here. I have since uninstalled, and I'm back.
The website speaks of this being for 2.1.
No wonder it doesn't work for a froyo rom.
The real question is when can we get flash on cm6 rc1???
I installed flash 10.1 from 4shared and after I tried it, i couldnt stay in the browser for long without it closing right back out.
I uninstalled it and it was fine.
apollostees said:
Same here. I have since uninstalled, and I'm back.
The website speaks of this being for 2.1.
No wonder it doesn't work for a froyo rom.
The real question is when can we get flash on cm6 rc1???
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currently the working adobe flash 10.1 release is primarily working only on devices bearing the "snapdragon" ARM processors... so when we're trying to force install this onto our devices it is either crashing, or not even allowing the install.
The flash 10.1 currently doesn't even allow the 1ghz hummingbird... its all a matter of time before a "general" release is going to be available. (i'm assuming)
I believe i've seen it said before and i quote;
"Adobe and Google working together to bring Flash player to a mobile device needs to be considered a "sensitive" port, unwelcome criticism on whether or not it will be necessary or whether this will start a revolution for future devices to follow depends on the ability to have Flash functioning flawlessly on the Android platform"
This means that all those Apple boys & gals who say "flash is pointless" yada yada... can't say "SEE THATS WHY FLASH IS USELESS" (implying that it will not work)
just my 2 pennies worth.
javolin13 said:
currently the working adobe flash 10.1 release is primarily working only on devices bearing the "snapdragon" ARM processors... so when we're trying to force install this onto our devices it is either crashing, or not even allowing the install.
The flash 10.1 currently doesn't even allow the 1ghz hummingbird... its all a matter of time before a "general" release is going to be available. (i'm assuming)
I believe i've seen it said before and i quote;
"Adobe and Google working together to bring Flash player to a mobile device needs to be considered a "sensitive" port, unwelcome criticism on whether or not it will be necessary or whether this will start a revolution for future devices to follow depends on the ability to have Flash functioning flawlessly on the Android platform"
This means that all those Apple boys & gals who say "flash is pointless" yada yada... can't say "SEE THATS WHY FLASH IS USELESS" (implying that it will not work)
just my 2 pennies worth.
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I didn't bother reading that whole post, primarily because I saw that you said that Flash wasn't pointless, but you are slightly incorrect.
The Slide's processor = ARM6
Requirement for Flash 10.1 = ARM7
IQ drop associated with mobile Flash = 72
r0man said:
I didn't bother reading that whole post, primarily because I saw that you said that Flash wasn't pointless, but you are slightly incorrect.
The Slide's processor = ARM6
Requirement for Flash 10.1 = ARM7
IQ drop associated with mobile Flash = 72
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Notice I said "snapdragon" and not just ARM, also flash in mobile is more of preference rather than necessity... hence the reason it can, or cannot be downloaded even with devices that are able to install it.
(and yes I do understand another reason for 3rd party install is to push updates without the need for a full firmware update)
Myself I personally like the idea of flash operating on a mobile device due to having my work email, which is primarily flash driven being able to access it with my personal phone. Using stock sense 2.1, I was able to do so, with Froyo on slide I'm unable to do so. (so back to the PC for me now)
So, as far as an IQ drop with the association of flash... if you have a mobile piece of software effecting your physical abilities then you really have a true issue, that needs immediate medical attention.
I just want to have the damn option of being able to use it.
is there any way to get the flash from the stock rom onto cm6
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is there any way to get the flash from the stock rom onto cm6
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I'm pretty sure Flash lite only works for sense
I think the only reason I would ever need full Flash support would be for Robot Unicorn Attack and maybe some physicsgames.net.
I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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Most porn sites have MP4 streaming LOL
PcFish said:
Most porn sites have MP4 streaming LOL
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The ones that don't are the the ones they want flash for.
I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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what about shockwave games and embeded videos other than porn. HULU! I personally dont use my desktop except for running large programs like adobe and for large downloads
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Buddatearz said:
what about shockwave games and embeded videos other than porn. HULU! I personally dont use my desktop except for running large programs like adobe and for large downloads
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Hulu will work if we can get 10.1 Froyo, but as of right now idk if we'll see that.
Doesn't Hulu block mobile phones anyway?
I thought they set it up so you have to buy Hulu+ like on the PS3.
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Doesn't Hulu block mobile phones anyway?
I thought they set it up so you have to buy Hulu+ like on the PS3.
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They have an android app out thats works on the high end phones, was told it works but never tried it (seeing as i dont have highend phone)
You pervs stop the porn thing, that's probably the reason we don't get full flash!
And flash games?? Are you kidding!!! Don't waste time on those crappy-ass games!
There are many other reasongs why would we want full flash,
Has anyone thought of the streaming tv viewing channels ability! Or streams of radio stations, which some work over flash player 10.1
One could watch Live TV!!!
Think of the real benefits of flash.
Well, stock flash on 2.1 works with many sites with medium/small flash videos, but not Live Streams...
One of the reasongs why I won't flash a Froyo rom, I want Sense and Flash!
Just my opinion
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A good temporary solution, anyone ever try Skyfire browser?
It works great with most streaming websites.
It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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same problem here, and there are a lot of comments in the market regarding this! also the 2d hardware acceleration does not change this "flash-desaster"...
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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zacthespack said:
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
zacthespack said:
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
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foxmeister said:
First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
I don't know where I've read but Samsung or android // Google wants to move on to html5 (aka to drop flash support), like Apple did a long time ago.
Yes, html5 is better from resorce-consuming point of view, but still a lot of websites use flash.
We only hope that more websites will move to html5-based animations in future.
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Especially Korean drama streaming sites.
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anonymous572 said:
Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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Yes, I want it for the random site I'm bound to come across.
How lame is it when you say you have the latest technology, then when a friend or family asks you to check out some website on it, then it doesn't work, because it doesn't support flash, a technology so old....well, ya it's old! My old windows mobile phone played some of theses ICS problem sites just fine! That's not cool.
I'm back on GB, 11.1.111.9. I'm pretty sure when I was on LPY, it was version 11.1.115.8. I know I uninstalled it, and re-installed it from the market. This fixed the original blue box missing plugin scenario, but now we have the chop. Also, a few articles saying Adobe is stealthy releasing 11.2 seems to be a lie because I can't find any apk's OR market review with 11.2.
zacthespack said:
In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
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Nice! I didn't think of skyfire but actually that's what it took to make my WM phone play back in the day. Is been a while.
As soon as this ICS bug is squashed, I will probably flash it and give skyfire a go. For the most part I can live without some video, but it looks really tacky when you want to show it off if it's broken.
Here is a read:
http://thenextweb.com/dd/2012/05/22...nds-of-times-slower-on-mobile-devices-report/
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
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Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
Regards,
Dave
Personally I'll be glad when Flash dies, for lots of reasons, but understand why it's a pain right now.
As for the BBC iPlayer comments; I've no problem at all on LPY with the app. Am I just not fussy enough?
foxmeister said:
Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
Regards,
Dave
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+1
skyfire suck balls
Well I doubt it will be to much longer until the iplayer has native html5 video (after all it already uses this for iOS) and as flash support gets killed for mobile by adobe other formats will take its place, I would say less and less sites are souly use flash, but of cause for years to come there will be random sites that still only uses it, its the case with all new formats.
Personally I have always found streaming and using flash within the browser to just be a bit of a pig and most of the time just wait till I can get to a computer
Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
Tedri Mark said:
Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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From my experience flash is not not unsupported it just is a bit pants on ICS. I recently debated with myself about this as I'm a fan of the Escapist website but their HTML5 media only comes with a paid subscription.
Running their site on Dolphin with a Desktop UI works okay until you try and maximise the video content. Then everything falls over and you have to begin again and just zoom in on the video as best you can.
This is okay I guess but a bit of a pain when I know their Flash stuff would work a lot better on GB.
I can't let go of Paranoid Android tho, it's just too sweet.
I'm on CM9 and have no problems with flash on ics+ browser.
Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Forget Skyfire. It used to work but nowadays it's useless. It does not play most of the videos I frequently come across.
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