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Why hasn't a Flash Player been developed??

All I'm looking for is a standard flash player that would play .flv, .swf and h.264 files from video channels like YouTube, Vimeo, Exposure Room, etc...
They all use a standard flash player which streams, or downloads the files so it shouldn't be that difficult to implement I would think.
The Hero rom has already shown a flash player that works, basically as a plugin to the browser, so there must be a way to port it to the other roms.

I'd like to see this too.

wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.

I found the Hero one to be usable, but only just. The sound seems ok, but the picture is a bit stuttery. It will be interesting to see if it's really the old hardware used in the Hero that's not up to it, or whether a differnt app can do better. I hear that the beebplayer is also poor on the Hero - not tried it yet - so perhaps it's the hardware?

bbuchacher said:
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
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can you please provide a link to this article?

there is one check the market

Yeah, I had no luck what so ever trying to play video from any of the top video sharing websites, due to the fact that the player version was 8.0. I did however have great success with viewing flash-based websites (typically exported as Flash 8 or earlier for compatibility).
That is going to be an issue that the Flash player will have to contend with when it is released in October. The player will have to be updated regularly everytime a new version of Flash comes out. Hopefully Adobe will stay on top of that, or the player will become obsolete very quickly.

I hope you don't mean the Android7 Flash Player in the market?
http://www.cyrket.com/package/org.android7.flashplayer
It will play an .flv and what not, but you would have to have the file locally on your phone.
It isn't a browser-based solution where you can click on a video link and then launch the player to begin streaming, or downloading the video like you can with the YouTube player.
That is what we need, only for any website that is hosting a flash-based video. Either that, or these websites have to begin offering free downloads of the original uploaded videos.
We saw a sneak peak of what's to come with the flash-enabled Hero rom, but like we all know, that is only for version 8.

Actually, the Flash Player in Hero is so far pretty sufficient, it actually can play YouTube videos, you just have to click on the video itself and it will open in the Flash player.
However, I do agree, further development would be nice. For example, when on sites like Myspace, I would like to hear some profile music playing, it would just in total add to the whole "internet phone" concept.

Do0zman said:
can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/

the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol

makes me sad...
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?

Flash, being proprietary closed source crap, is contrary to the nature of android. Adobe has in the past been VERY slow in supporting new platforms, so quite frankly, it really should die altogether. There are plenty of open source alternatives for flash-type content that can be used instead. Instead of complaining here, you should complain to the content provider who chose to use that crap format.

Do0zman said:
can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://gizmodo.com/5300800/flash-for-android-webos-landing-in-october
tuto0503 said:
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
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hulu blocked mobile devices. so no phone can veiw hulu anymore. i dont know why they would do that but sadly they did
kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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if it was a winmo phone then he can do it because he was using skyfire. his phone doesnt have flash but skyfires servers do.
skyfire uses proxy servers to intercept browser requests which are then compressed and sent to skyfire enabled phones. the proxy server technology has the smarts to take flash video/games, java and other desktop class features that normally slow down mobile browsers dramatically, if those features are even supported, and render them correctly, truly giving mobile users flash.

The one on hero is pretty good, you can play games on sites and stuff, but looking forward to 10 coming out

kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.

nupagadi1 said:
Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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not sure, I'll ask him though.

WTF ... How come Apple always has a leg up??

OK. So yesterday I watched this hilarious link on the Apple Iphone4 on my computer.
Hitler mad with Steve Jobs
I sent this link to my friend as a text message to his iphone 3G which is upgraded to the IOS4 now.
Lo and behold, when he clicked on the link, the flash video was playing on this Iphone 3G.
I tried the link on my HTC Pure, it brought up Opera and simply gave me the message that I need to upgrade to Flash 10. Yeah right.... There is no Flash 10 for the PPC platform.
WTF

Because your friends iphone saw the link as a youtube video and ran it through their special iyoutube player to watch it. Where on your HTC you have opera and it doesn't really support youtube without plugins. I would try skyfire, or just use your own youtube app. WM youtube apps 100 times better the the iphone youtube low resolution app. So when he ran you link, the virtual steve jobs appeared and rerouted his link to play in youtube, where as is always true with windows, it does what you tell it to do. You told it to open a link in opera, and thats what it did. I persoanlly don't want the CEO of HTC to be deciding what app I open what with. It really all depends on how much spoon feeding you want your phone to do. If you want to not think about anything and have it just work or not work, go iphone. If you want to work on it and tinker with it to make anything work, WM's you choice.

Yeah. Emailed it to myself and it worked fine on my EVO... Looks like Apple only "Always has a leg up" only on you. ;-)

this is not a youtube video...
It is Vimeo.
and it ran it through the quicktime player.

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Because your friends iphone saw the link as a youtube video and ran it through their special iyoutube player to watch it. Where on your HTC you have opera and it doesn't really support youtube without plugins. I would try skyfire, or just use your own youtube app. WM youtube apps 100 times better the the iphone youtube low resolution app. So when he ran you link, the virtual steve jobs appeared and rerouted his link to play in youtube, where as is always true with windows, it does what you tell it to do. You told it to open a link in opera, and thats what it did. I persoanlly don't want the CEO of HTC to be deciding what app I open what with. It really all depends on how much spoon feeding you want your phone to do. If you want to not think about anything and have it just work or not work, go iphone. If you want to work on it and tinker with it to make anything work, WM's you choice.
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I love to tinker.
so tell me how to play a Vimeo video on my WM6.5.3 phone? I am not quite sure how.

chikoo said:
I love to tinker.
so tell me how to play a Vimeo video on my WM6.5.3 phone? I am not quite sure how.
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waiting for answer to my question....any help?

chikoo said:
waiting for answer to my question....any help?
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to put it plain......
dunno!

So iphone does have a leg up....

No, they obviously just have an app that plays a veriety of streaming sites. I dont know why you think its a big deal.
edit: ahh there you go see what a 5 second google search can do: Vimeo uses HTML 5 as well as flash http://www.macworld.com/article/145836/2010/01/vimeo_html5.html

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So iphone does have a leg up....
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Not really. I hear Android has a flash player.... not that I would know or anything.

Vimeo has a special version of the website for iPhone/iPad. It looks up User Agent; and if it finds out iPhone is used, it brings up a compatible version of the site. Many website do this, especially for iPhone because it is popular and doesn't support flash.
The video here was .mp4 for iphone as it is nativity supported.
http://vimeo.com/blog:265
Also Vimeo has a version for Android, while Youtube has mobile version for almost every device.
P.S. If you use Firefox you can change your User Agent with User Agent Switcher for example.

So what is the user agent for the iphone?
i'll stick it on my Opera for WM and see if it works!

Alexander-HTC said:
Vimeo has a special version of the website for iPhone/iPad. It looks up User Agent; and if it finds out iPhone is used, it brings up a compatible version of the site. Many website do this, especially for iPhone because it is popular and doesn't support flash.
The video here was .mp4 for iphone as it is nativity supported.
http://vimeo.com/blog:265
Also Vimeo has a version for Android, while Youtube has mobile version for almost every device.
P.S. If you use Firefox you can change your User Agent with User Agent Switcher for example.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Once upon a time I remarked that websites will change to accommodate the iphone/ipad's non-flash OS and not the other way around, much to everyone's disbelief. I guess I see that happening now.

AT&T uverse app...

Hello, I posted in the Vidrant but no luck... I have Uverse from AT&T and my brothers iphone has a app that controls the DVR I just got my tv guide from them and its showing a app for the captivate... Would love to have this app. Trying to find out if the app is out and if some one could post the apk.
Thank you for your help with this!
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Hey, I work for AT&T and as of yet, no U-Verse app for us androidians. Only iPhone and Blackberry at this time. I'm told it is in the works.

Ok Thank you
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I am kind of put off that there's an app for the Windows 7 ATT phone that isn't even out yet. The Android version has been "in the works" for a while now.

The U-verse app is available for the Captivate.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/att-expands-u-verse-mobile-to-android-devices-105186044.html

Works for more then just the captivate. HTC incredible and others work too. Get the apk at irtehun.net if u don't have ATT
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Very cool. Very easy to navigate and see what is on.

APK
Attached is the apk but read the press release posted a few posts up as it only works on certain devices right now according to the press release.

Going to try this on my vibrant , will post results.
EDIT: Works!!!!!

I just d/l it in market. Does anyone know if it currently works without having u-verse at home? I thought i read for win phone 7 that u wouldnt have to pay for it if u already had it at home would be included.
Im all for paying just didnt see anything on account management for it.

jc2470 said:
I just d/l it in market. Does anyone know if it currently works without having u-verse at home? I thought i read for win phone 7 that u wouldnt have to pay for it if u already had it at home would be included.
Im all for paying just didnt see anything on account management for it.
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What are you going to use it for if you don't have u-verse service?

I can confirm that this works on an EVO and Incredible.

They said on windows phone 7 it would beable to d/l movies to watch and said would be free if u were a u-verse home user. Like as in u could subscribe to the mobile service to watch movies from it like ondemand

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They said on windows phone 7 it would beable to d/l movies to watch and said would be free if u were a u-verse home user. Like as in u could subscribe to the mobile service to watch movies from it like ondemand
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I read that where Windows Phone 7 is concerned that if you don't currently have U-Verse service at home you'd be able to pay some sort of fee and use the limited version of it on your phone. But thats all that was said about it. We can assume this might be something exclusive to WP7 as it appears that AT&T is putting a lot of weight behind the platform.
As far as the Android version, I have U-Verse, and have yet to find any shows or movies that I'm allowed to download to my phone for later viewing. It first requires activation of the service via "manage account", which I did after getting errors the first few times about their systems not being ready or whatever. Then when it worked, I went into my DVR and could download NONE of the programs I have recorded. Apparently downloading is limited to a certain selection of programs. Unfortunately theres no information about what shows, channels, etc can do this.

UPDATE: Ok...so theres very few shows that are available for download. Most of them are Disney Channel stuff, few Animal Planet/TLC/Discovery Channel shows, some ABC stuff.
From ATT Uverse on Facebook:
If you click on the Library tab on the app, you should be able to see what shows are available. That said, we're working on getting more and more programming available on the app. Thanks!
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jc2470 said:
They said on windows phone 7 it would beable to d/l movies to watch and said would be free if u were a u-verse home user. Like as in u could subscribe to the mobile service to watch movies from it like ondemand
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Download content is only available if you have the U300 package. 100 and 200 are not able to see anything beyond their DVR content.

Works great. Glad to see AT&T is supporting Android a little bit.

The app works MUCH better than the web page on the captivate. As for the downloadable content, until they get stuff on there that is actually interesting, I'm certainly not upping my uverse package to the U300.
I do hope that they get it to the point where I can stream my DVR recordings to my phone. Now THAT would be sweet!
Another bonus, a friend has the U300 package. He let me use his account login info to watch the downloadable videos as needed. NICE

I talked to a main att guy over all the stores where i live, and he said that the mobile service is strictly for Windows phone 7 its exclusive right now that u dont need home u verse for it and u can d/l stuff from web with it only on wifi though. and that if u have u verse at home its free and of course can access all that stuff to.
All other phones including iphone will only beable to use app if you are a home u verse user no mobile service for any of those. Windows phone 7 comes with it in a tile and its a feature to enable to d/l content from att's u-verse, i guess on demand stuff.

i tried to download and use this on my samsung moment with no luck

[Q] sky player

Hi all anyone got any idea how to get sky player on the desire hd ive read that you can watch it straight from the browser but its asking me to install silverlight and that isn't supported, anyone got this to work yet? thanks .

Markfcc said:
Hi all anyone got any idea how to get sky player on the desire hd ive read that you can watch it straight from the browser but its asking me to install silverlight and that isn't supported, anyone got this to work yet? thanks .
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Hi there
I work for Sky Technical Support and I know that you cannot watch Sky Player through any mobile browser at the moment (namely due to Silverlight only recognizing desktop browsers - yes it can even say no to Skyfire's desktop mode)
There is an android app in the works which should hopefully be made available after the new year however, as with everything in the works, no actual date has been confirmed. It shouldn't be too long a wait

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Hi there
I work for Sky Technical Support and I know that you cannot watch Sky Player through any mobile browser at the moment (namely due to Silverlight only recognizing desktop browsers - yes it can even say no to Skyfire's desktop mode)
There is an android app in the works which should hopefully be made available after the new year however, as with everything in the works, no actual date has been confirmed. It shouldn't be too long a wait
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will this be along the lines of the iphone app where you pay sky direct for the service, as the t mobile one at the mo is awfull picture quality , yet the iphone 4 one is amazing

[RELEASE] Cloudcast vs. Chromecast!

Hey y'all,
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
I'm excited to share my latest new app in Google Play: CLOUDCAST
Cloudcast lets you play online entertainment from one Android device to another, from anywhere on the planet! Unlike Chromecast, Cloudcast is NOT limited to your Wi-Fi network and you can stream content from ANY website in your device!
The idea was born out of frustration with Chromecast. Google released Chromecast in the summer of 2013 but did not allow independent developers like us to publish apps for it. Since I spent months writing code for their "preview" SDK, I did not want all my work to go to waste. That is when the idea of Cloudcast was born - why not use any Android device as a player instead of Chromecast and not be limited to the Wi-Fi network!
So here it is finally! Hope y'all find the app useful. Let me know what you think. It's a free app, requires latest Google Play & YouTube apps and runs on Android 2.2 or above.
Cheers!
Appestry

wow very nice work thank you for your contributions

Thank you!
BurnOmatic said:
wow very nice work thank you for your contributions
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I appreciate that very much.

This is awesome, now someone needs to create a 30 dollar android HDMI PC w/wifi and we can give the big middle finger to google.

Looks interesting. Downloading right now.
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JLine05 said:
This is awesome, now someone needs to create a 30 dollar android HDMI PC w/wifi and we can give the big middle finger to google.
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Look around the interwebs. I've seen the MK808 go for as low as $30 recently.
I have had one for about a year now, paid a bit more for it, and am quite happy with it.
Does all the Android stuff well and now even XBMC (13 beta7) runs great on it, using Finless v1.7 ROM and kisses 720p kernel.
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MK808 & Google Play
kozmo2k4 said:
Looks interesting. Downloading right now.
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Look around the interwebs. I've seen the MK808 go for as low as $30 recently.
I have had one for about a year now, paid a bit more for it, and am quite happy with it.
Does all the Android stuff well and now even XBMC (13 beta7) runs great on it, using Finless v1.7 ROM and kisses 720p kernel.
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Does Google Play work in MK808? I heard others had issues signing in. I'm looking to get one.
The one I used in the Cloudcast demo is Evoke HDI, runs 4.01 but it's a lot slower than even 1.2 GHz phones.
http://evokehdi.com/
I picked it up in Fry's, but no one sells them anymore.

I don't understand this part: ''The free version contains ads and can only cloudcast for 10 minutes at a time.''
10 mins only? then what next, because 10 mins is nothing..
Also can I cast all my movies from a Window PC to my Android stick?..Thanks

JLine05 said:
This is awesome, now someone needs to create a 30 dollar android HDMI PC w/wifi and we can give the big middle finger to google.
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I believe that it's called The Raspberry Pie.
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Play movies from PC
el_easy said:
I don't understand this part: ''The free version contains ads and can only cloudcast for 10 minutes at a time.''
10 mins only? then what next, because 10 mins is nothing..
Also can I cast all my movies from a Window PC to my Android stick?..Thanks
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Sure, when you use Cloudcast you will be installing in two devices - your phone (the browser/remote) and the Android stick (the media player). The free version is for you to test out Cloudcast in your Wi-Fi network or wireless carrier to make sure it's responsive. If you are casting videos < 10 mins then you won't have to upgrade. After 10 minutes the player will stop to give you an option to upgrade or close. You can still continue to use the browser and play locally or cast again. The browser has no time limits. When you upgrade the 10 time limit for the player is removed and the ads at the bottom of the browser are removed as well. Hope it makes sense.
If you are storing movies in a web server in your Windows PC and if you're able to access them from an Android browser (say http://network_pc/movies/...) then you can play and control the movies from your phone to the Android stick. The PC has to stay on and folders shared for the entire movie.
Instead of a web server you can try shared folders, Cloudcast will work if the URL is accessible by a browser (say file:///network_pc/movies...). My Evoke HDI Android box can see shared folders (without a webserver) and it's also possible with a rooted phone. Hope it helps.

Appestry said:
Does Google Play work in MK808? I heard others had issues signing in. I'm looking to get one.
The one I used in the Cloudcast demo is Evoke HDI, runs 4.01 but it's a lot slower than even 1.2 GHz phones.
http://evokehdi.com/
I picked it up in Fry's, but no one sells them anymore.
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The MK808 has had access to Google Play (and Amazon), whether on Stock or custom ROMs, without any issues. There are JellyBean versions out now, but I have mine still on ICS. Good forum for Android sticks (and not-so-mainstream Tablets) is Freaktab.com. Good place to compare the different Android Sticks and set-top-boxes.

Appestry said:
Hey y'all,
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!
I'm excited to share my latest new app in Google Play: CLOUDCAST
Cloudcast lets you play online entertainment from one Android device to another, from anywhere on the planet! Unlike Chromecast, Cloudcast is NOT limited to your Wi-Fi network and you can stream content from ANY website in your device!
The idea was born out of frustration with Chromecast. Google released Chromecast in the summer of 2013 but did not allow independent developers like us to publish apps for it. Since I spent months writing code for their "preview" SDK, I did not want all my work to go to waste. That is when the idea of Cloudcast was born - why not use any Android device as a player instead of Chromecast and not be limited to the Wi-Fi network!
So here it is finally! Hope y'all find the app useful. Let me know what you think. It's a free app, requires latest Google Play & YouTube apps and runs on Android 2.2 or above.
Cheers!
Appestry
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Feels nicer than Cheapcast, but I'm realizing these types of apps can never do paid content, right? I can't do netflix. So these will always be a compliment to chromecast, not replacement.
Or, am I not understanding something? How do I play netlfix, hbo go, hulu plus, etc. I have paying accounts for these. Netflix and HBO Go requires you to play in an app. You can't play in the browser, so that means this won't work, correct?

No paid content yet!
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Feels nicer than Cheapcast, but I'm realizing these types of apps can never do paid content, right? I can't do netflix. So these will always be a compliment to chromecast, not replacement.
Or, am I not understanding something? How do I play netlfix, hbo go, hulu plus, etc. I have paying accounts for these. Netflix and HBO Go requires you to play in an app. You can't play in the browser, so that means this won't work, correct?
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Yes, you're absolutely correct. Cloudcast currently cannot play paid content because there is no user authentication at the player end. Netflix won't play in any mobile browser because of their restrictions. Like you said they want you to use their app!
That said, if the content providers offer a way to authenticate in a web browser (oAuth or login), then we can validate the user at both ends (browser and player). I will look further and see if there are providers that offer that option. Will keep you updated.
I'm sure there are apps out there that "cast" without a Chromecast. If there are enough of us to show content providers the value in offering browser based HTML5 delivery model, then they will soon realize that we all don't need to be locked up in Google's walled garden. This is just a spark and I'm hoping to start a fire!
Calling all indie devs who want to cast without a Chromecast!!
Thank you for this great question. I'll be sure to add this in the FAQs.