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Why hasn't a Flash Player been developed??

All I'm looking for is a standard flash player that would play .flv, .swf and h.264 files from video channels like YouTube, Vimeo, Exposure Room, etc...
They all use a standard flash player which streams, or downloads the files so it shouldn't be that difficult to implement I would think.
The Hero rom has already shown a flash player that works, basically as a plugin to the browser, so there must be a way to port it to the other roms.

I'd like to see this too.

wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.

I found the Hero one to be usable, but only just. The sound seems ok, but the picture is a bit stuttery. It will be interesting to see if it's really the old hardware used in the Hero that's not up to it, or whether a differnt app can do better. I hear that the beebplayer is also poor on the Hero - not tried it yet - so perhaps it's the hardware?

bbuchacher said:
wait until October, which is when adobe will be releasing their flash player for the android platform. and btw the flash player on hero sucks and is utterly pointless. I believe its Flash 8 all the sites you listed req Flash 10.
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can you please provide a link to this article?

there is one check the market

Yeah, I had no luck what so ever trying to play video from any of the top video sharing websites, due to the fact that the player version was 8.0. I did however have great success with viewing flash-based websites (typically exported as Flash 8 or earlier for compatibility).
That is going to be an issue that the Flash player will have to contend with when it is released in October. The player will have to be updated regularly everytime a new version of Flash comes out. Hopefully Adobe will stay on top of that, or the player will become obsolete very quickly.

I hope you don't mean the Android7 Flash Player in the market?
http://www.cyrket.com/package/org.android7.flashplayer
It will play an .flv and what not, but you would have to have the file locally on your phone.
It isn't a browser-based solution where you can click on a video link and then launch the player to begin streaming, or downloading the video like you can with the YouTube player.
That is what we need, only for any website that is hosting a flash-based video. Either that, or these websites have to begin offering free downloads of the original uploaded videos.
We saw a sneak peak of what's to come with the flash-enabled Hero rom, but like we all know, that is only for version 8.

Actually, the Flash Player in Hero is so far pretty sufficient, it actually can play YouTube videos, you just have to click on the video itself and it will open in the Flash player.
However, I do agree, further development would be nice. For example, when on sites like Myspace, I would like to hear some profile music playing, it would just in total add to the whole "internet phone" concept.

Do0zman said:
can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/06/22/adobes-flash-10-for-android-a-big-win-for-mobile-web-apps/

the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol

makes me sad...
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?

Flash, being proprietary closed source crap, is contrary to the nature of android. Adobe has in the past been VERY slow in supporting new platforms, so quite frankly, it really should die altogether. There are plenty of open source alternatives for flash-type content that can be used instead. Instead of complaining here, you should complain to the content provider who chose to use that crap format.

Do0zman said:
can you please provide a link to this article?
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http://gizmodo.com/5300800/flash-for-android-webos-landing-in-october
tuto0503 said:
the flash player on the hero rom is ok....it will be perfect one i can watch hulu bangros on my g1...lol
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hulu blocked mobile devices. so no phone can veiw hulu anymore. i dont know why they would do that but sadly they did
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yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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if it was a winmo phone then he can do it because he was using skyfire. his phone doesnt have flash but skyfires servers do.
skyfire uses proxy servers to intercept browser requests which are then compressed and sent to skyfire enabled phones. the proxy server technology has the smarts to take flash video/games, java and other desktop class features that normally slow down mobile browsers dramatically, if those features are even supported, and render them correctly, truly giving mobile users flash.

The one on hero is pretty good, you can play games on sites and stuff, but looking forward to 10 coming out

kyleds said:
yeah,
my friend recently got a HTC phone, don't remember which one though. it was for either sprint or verizon and he can go to facebook and play the actual apps on there like restaurant city and mouse hunt, etc. why is it that we don't have it yet?
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Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.

nupagadi1 said:
Was he using skyfire? seems like it could be it as it was able to go on and watch hulu videos.
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not sure, I'll ask him though.

Who said no flash 10.1 for the slide.

Been a lurker for a while now. This is worthy of my first post. I found a flash 10.1 apk and it works. Not incredibly fast for flash games but it does work. I cant post links but I think you can figure it out.
getandroidstuff.com/2010/06/adobe-flash-101-full-support-for.html
Now I did not make this and don't know who did so use at your own risk. I have only been playing with it for a day and haven't seen any ill effects yet. All I know is it works.
" Android 2.2 comes with the new feature for full flash support. Here how it's work google just integrated a plugin called com.google.android.feature.GOOGLE_PLUGIN. And Flash uses it to embed itself inside browser. So browser in android 2.1 mobile phones does not see plugin. Now if you are owner of Android 2.1 or 2.0 smartphone then download the Adobe Flash 10.1 apk application below and get full flash support for your Android 2.1 or 2.0 mobiles.
BUT!There's another thing inside - a permission called android.webkit.permission.PLUGIN. It is already used by Flash Lite on HTC devices. So this app will replace the lite version of flash and will work with full feature.

Or get it here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6569529&postcount=16

razr315 said:
This totally broke my browser using CM6 RC1
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Same here. I have since uninstalled, and I'm back.
The website speaks of this being for 2.1.
No wonder it doesn't work for a froyo rom.
The real question is when can we get flash on cm6 rc1???

I installed flash 10.1 from 4shared and after I tried it, i couldnt stay in the browser for long without it closing right back out.
I uninstalled it and it was fine.

apollostees said:
Same here. I have since uninstalled, and I'm back.
The website speaks of this being for 2.1.
No wonder it doesn't work for a froyo rom.
The real question is when can we get flash on cm6 rc1???
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currently the working adobe flash 10.1 release is primarily working only on devices bearing the "snapdragon" ARM processors... so when we're trying to force install this onto our devices it is either crashing, or not even allowing the install.
The flash 10.1 currently doesn't even allow the 1ghz hummingbird... its all a matter of time before a "general" release is going to be available. (i'm assuming)
I believe i've seen it said before and i quote;
"Adobe and Google working together to bring Flash player to a mobile device needs to be considered a "sensitive" port, unwelcome criticism on whether or not it will be necessary or whether this will start a revolution for future devices to follow depends on the ability to have Flash functioning flawlessly on the Android platform"
This means that all those Apple boys & gals who say "flash is pointless" yada yada... can't say "SEE THATS WHY FLASH IS USELESS" (implying that it will not work)
just my 2 pennies worth.

javolin13 said:
currently the working adobe flash 10.1 release is primarily working only on devices bearing the "snapdragon" ARM processors... so when we're trying to force install this onto our devices it is either crashing, or not even allowing the install.
The flash 10.1 currently doesn't even allow the 1ghz hummingbird... its all a matter of time before a "general" release is going to be available. (i'm assuming)
I believe i've seen it said before and i quote;
"Adobe and Google working together to bring Flash player to a mobile device needs to be considered a "sensitive" port, unwelcome criticism on whether or not it will be necessary or whether this will start a revolution for future devices to follow depends on the ability to have Flash functioning flawlessly on the Android platform"
This means that all those Apple boys & gals who say "flash is pointless" yada yada... can't say "SEE THATS WHY FLASH IS USELESS" (implying that it will not work)
just my 2 pennies worth.
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I didn't bother reading that whole post, primarily because I saw that you said that Flash wasn't pointless, but you are slightly incorrect.
The Slide's processor = ARM6
Requirement for Flash 10.1 = ARM7
IQ drop associated with mobile Flash = 72

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I didn't bother reading that whole post, primarily because I saw that you said that Flash wasn't pointless, but you are slightly incorrect.
The Slide's processor = ARM6
Requirement for Flash 10.1 = ARM7
IQ drop associated with mobile Flash = 72
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Notice I said "snapdragon" and not just ARM, also flash in mobile is more of preference rather than necessity... hence the reason it can, or cannot be downloaded even with devices that are able to install it.
(and yes I do understand another reason for 3rd party install is to push updates without the need for a full firmware update)
Myself I personally like the idea of flash operating on a mobile device due to having my work email, which is primarily flash driven being able to access it with my personal phone. Using stock sense 2.1, I was able to do so, with Froyo on slide I'm unable to do so. (so back to the PC for me now)
So, as far as an IQ drop with the association of flash... if you have a mobile piece of software effecting your physical abilities then you really have a true issue, that needs immediate medical attention.

I just want to have the damn option of being able to use it.

is there any way to get the flash from the stock rom onto cm6

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is there any way to get the flash from the stock rom onto cm6
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I'm pretty sure Flash lite only works for sense

I think the only reason I would ever need full Flash support would be for Robot Unicorn Attack and maybe some physicsgames.net.

I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.

mylostlonelysoul said:
I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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Most porn sites have MP4 streaming LOL

PcFish said:
Most porn sites have MP4 streaming LOL
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The ones that don't are the the ones they want flash for.

I still agree with the number one reason for people to have flash is for them to watch porn. Do not argue about the statment i just said, you and i both know its true.
But with the new info about higher-end phones soon to have divx support in the flash well thats just amazing. Of course without great service your pretty much screwed but say we had great service as well as the opportunity to use this feature wouldn't you take advantage of this at work on break and watch some movies and what not? I sure would.
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what about shockwave games and embeded videos other than porn. HULU! I personally dont use my desktop except for running large programs like adobe and for large downloads
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Buddatearz said:
what about shockwave games and embeded videos other than porn. HULU! I personally dont use my desktop except for running large programs like adobe and for large downloads
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Hulu will work if we can get 10.1 Froyo, but as of right now idk if we'll see that.

Doesn't Hulu block mobile phones anyway?
I thought they set it up so you have to buy Hulu+ like on the PS3.

PcFish said:
Doesn't Hulu block mobile phones anyway?
I thought they set it up so you have to buy Hulu+ like on the PS3.
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They have an android app out thats works on the high end phones, was told it works but never tried it (seeing as i dont have highend phone)

You pervs stop the porn thing, that's probably the reason we don't get full flash!
And flash games?? Are you kidding!!! Don't waste time on those crappy-ass games!
There are many other reasongs why would we want full flash,
Has anyone thought of the streaming tv viewing channels ability! Or streams of radio stations, which some work over flash player 10.1
One could watch Live TV!!!
Think of the real benefits of flash.
Well, stock flash on 2.1 works with many sites with medium/small flash videos, but not Live Streams...
One of the reasongs why I won't flash a Froyo rom, I want Sense and Flash!
Just my opinion
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A good temporary solution, anyone ever try Skyfire browser?
It works great with most streaming websites.

A browser for you all

Hi,
I've been a visiter here for a few years. This is my first post.
I've managed to get out the Net Front Browser that came pre-installed on my T-01A. It's a 2009 version and is very lite on battery. It runs in English on my English rom without trouble. It also utilizes the hard zoom bar of the TG01.
It's very different in useability and quality to any of the NF concept versions I've tried.
There are around 14 files to be copied to the windows folder and thats it.
However, some may contain some personal information so I'd like someone to help me clean them up before I post the files as a zip or torrent them.

The NF is based on the kernel of IE Mobile and works not that smooth. For WM devices, I recommend IrisBrowser though its develop team was required by RIM a year ago , Iris still works and the UX is perfect

likounin said:
The NF is based on the kernel of IE Mobile and works not that smooth. For WM devices, I recommend IrisBrowser though its develop team was required by RIM a year ago , Iris still works and the UX is perfect
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Sorry, I tried the Iris browser for a few days but it's not a patch on the NF that I have. It kindov works but it's unuseable compared to what I was/ am offering.
Sorry that you think the Iris is better, lol. It is very inferior.

never mind...not everyone cares the same thing. what i care is full web experience and html 5 support, while nf, whose acid3 test result is not acceptable
btw, except the ui, what do you care when choosing a mobile browser?
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I guess you are an an employee of Iris or have connections there'ov, otherwise are you numb to judge what you don't know as you haven't downloaded my files yet?
Simply : I know about what I am speaking and you are speaking.
You only know of what you're speaking and don't know of what I am speaking.

how i wish i could work for RIM.....
but truth is what one believes so it's useless to explain more
the netfront is the mobile browser made by access in japan, isn't it?
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papaandjack said:
I guess you are an an employee of Iris or have connections there'ov, otherwise are you numb to judge what you don't know as you haven't downloaded my files yet?
Simply : I know about what I am speaking and you are speaking.
You only know of what you're speaking and don't know of what I am speaking.
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wait... you said you have post files to be downloaded? where are they?

I did not say I had posted any files, but I can.
The 1 main advatge with this browser is battery life.
With Opera 10 minutes browsing takes 10% battery, with NF 1 hour's browsing takes 10% ( or thereabouts).
The difference is comparable with Windows media player and Core player. WMPlayer is about the same 10 minutes is 10% battery and Core player 1 hour is 10 % ( playing music).
It doesn't support flash, but it's as fast as Opera for one tenth of battery usage. And so for browsing - it's the best browser I've found.
When I had the stock Japanese rom on it I used it all the time. After flashing an English rom it was sufferable with only IE opr Opera, they both drain the battery like a gorilla in a banana shop.
It was tricky to get the files out as the are protected rom files and ordinarily uncopiable. But I've got them.
If you know anyone else who has managed to get the JP version of NF from a Japanese Toshiba T-01A (which is completely in English when installed on an English rom) then please, ask them, or download from them.

Is this not On topic?

This is definitely on-topic XD
It seems a bit silly to get into an argument over the difference of opinion here. Just hurry up and link to the browser so we can all have more alternatives! =)

i see, trying to look for it
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Here's a link
https://rapidshare.com/files/458372874/NFB.rar
*** Please read below ***
It's a RAR file with 12 files and 2 folders.
You need to select 'Show hidden files, folders and drives' and uncheck 'Hide protected operating system files' in your pc's 'Folder Options' to see all the files and so copy them. (or use a decent phone file explorer)
Copy all 14 to your phones' 'Windows folder'.
Link to NFStartup (or 1 of the others).
And give it a try.
It's off a T01 A so the hard zoom bar should work fine on TG01.
If problems on a different screen resolution, there is an 'nfview' file that looks configurable.
Also the Widgets thing is crap as far as I know so you can save a few MB and delete that; It should still work fine.

seems different to find. actually it is also difficult to find a third party japanese rom:-(
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I don't understand if your post was in reply to mine, lol.

Files are posted

Files are posted for download

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I don't understand if your post was in reply to mine, lol.
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Sorry, it is due to the network delay, I'm downloading and will try it later. Thank you for sharing.

In fact, it's the NF 3.5 for WM, you can open this link http://acid3.acidtests.org/ in this browser, the result is 36/100 here, you may run this test in other browsers for a try.

Here're the results I've tested months ago for your information:
http://shrt.st/10ae

Your right, it is the 3.5, I noticed it on when it starts up.
That acid test is a waste of time. It bears nothing useful in reality.
The NF still out performs all other browsers in the real world. But if you need flash for something use Opera.
Good luck on the battery life.

Death to Adobe Flash

I enjoyed flash honestly until yesterday. I'm running JB, and I couldn't draft my players on Yahoo fantasy, because of flash. please make Html5 standard already!!!!
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I agree. It's taking entirely too long. It's really only a matter of time, though. Hope you made it to a desktop in time before your entire team was auto-drafted!
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Flash make your processor to work really hard. that's too bad. HTML 5 is too much better.

You can still download sideload flash and use it on JB for a while, until HTML5 becomes more popular
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I don't think he knew flash is not supported on JB... luck with your draft!
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I hate flash. The sooner we can dump it for a better open-source alternative the better!

I'm all for ditching Flash but there are so many websites I use that need it....

It's one thing to push everyone towards HTML5, but they could have done a much better job of the rollout. Flash has been crashing more and more often on sites here recently. The fix needs to come soon.

lets all move foward
I agree.. flash was so last year.. lets move foward to html5 and never look back!

well, I think there are still hips of devices (something like 80+% of overall android devices)running with GB & ICS out there, so it wouldn't be a brillent idea to take it off from them suddenly, maybe they should consider to keep flash on the play store but can't be installed by a JB device

I'm not a fan of flash, but it does serve a purpose.
Prior to all the HTML5+ options, it was the only practical way to do interactive stuff on the web. I think we are out growing the need for it, but it's not dead yet. I think it will be some time before it's gone. Companies spend LOTS of money on websites, and they can't just up & drop flash if their sites depend on it. There will be some time needed for them to rewrite their sites w/out flash.
I was really disappointed that "Saint" Steve Jobs outright banned it from apple devices, however that probably did speed up the adaption of other technologies over flash.

Adobe Flash is indeed sluggish and should be scraped as it currently is in progress of being.
But there are still so many websites that are so slow at implementing html5 as a alternative until Adobe Flash is completely gone.
It is really annoying to not being able to look at videos online with the phone because basically 8/10 sites doesn't support html5 properly.
Only the big sites support it, like Youtube.

Ehh ive never liked flash, glad its disappearing.

RIP!!!
in death there is new life... hope AIR and HTML5 helps to keep the leagacy on....:good:

I agree, I'm ready for Flash to fade into existence.

Yes, HTML5 is much better than Adobe Flash, but many page aren't work with HTML5.

Rip flash, long live html5
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So what is the real difference between Flash and HTML5?

Flash was great once upon a time

R.I.P FLASH GOGO HTML5
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Official Android 4.2 discussion thread(yes it's still called Jellybean)

Now we now with the arrival of the Nexus 4 also comes the newest android version, 4.2. Lets take a look at some of the key aspects/improvements google has made.
Here is a list of changes:
Main features:
Sphere camera
Multiple user profiles
Google Now updated
Quick settings
Gesture typing
Wireless TV Integration
Lockscreen widgets
Daydream screensaver
Pinch to zoom in Gmail
Triple tap to zoom the whole homescreen
Speech output
Gesture mode navigation
Credit to Prawesome here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962397
We know the specs of the phone itself but here are some more links with more information regarding Android 4.2:
http://m.gsmarena.com/android_42_is_out_google_keeps_the_jelly_bean_name-news-5016.php
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-bumps-android-to-4-2-keeps-jelly-bean-moniker/
About the improved camera features:http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/android-photo-sphere-panorama-google/?icid=m_eng_latest_art

System/app Dump?
Has anyone a copy of the 4.2 system apps? I would love to install some like the new keyboard, and I'm sure many others would love it too!

Quick Settings = FINALLY.
This is the one thing I could never live without from AOKP. I might actually not even need a custom ROM this time. I really like their implementation of it too.

I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better

man i was looking forward to the "project roadrunner" :/ sounded like an awesome idea/concept. still I'm happy with 4.2
loving the multi user and photo sphere(take that apple!)

Michealtbh said:
I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better
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I wouldn't be able to live my life without Swype. It makes me wonder how I went through life typing one letter at a time But seriously, I really hope it performs better than Swype.
@knolly I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've always wanted that on a phone's stock ROM. After playing around with custom ROMs on my S2, I'm ready to just jump on a Nexus and stay on whatever Google decides to churn out right then and there instead of having to wait for custom ROMs to come just to avoid the poop that Samsung/AT&T likes to put on the builds.

Looks great, it looks like its consolidating jelly bean with all the features a big OS update needs
I wish for something like the leeks said where you could remove the OEM overlay (sense, touchwiz)

Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.

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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.
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Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices

any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash

raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.

bozzykid said:
I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.
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To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.

jonesin said:
To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.
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It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.

ctfrommn said:
It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.
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I've got an overclocked G'nex on JB, 1.35 ghz dual core omap 4410? I would think that should do the trick but no...

You're the first I've ever heard say that about a galaxy nexus.
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It's not to any extent unusable or "slow" but my native browser just rips! Idk maybe its psychological... the biggest place that ive noticed it is not in page renders but in actual usability of the page. What I mean is that they seam to render in about the same time=fast but on chrome I'm unable to selct links and there is usually some delay before I can scroll around or zoom where as on the native browser I can be halfway through a page load and already selcting another link...

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Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices
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Yep...Chrome isn't nearly as fast as it was on PC..
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:

I mostly prefer the stock browser myself, still use flash quite a bit (though i guess that it will probably be somewhat if not entirely broken on 4.2/Nexus 4).
But for other tasks i've preferred Chrome, especially with the syncing of pages and the fact it seems to handle pages much better than the stock browser did, especially in regards to forum attachements, download sites, etc.

jonesin said:
any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash
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I am guessing the source will be released the same day as the phone ships. That's how it has worked in the past, isn't it ?
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