I enjoyed flash honestly until yesterday. I'm running JB, and I couldn't draft my players on Yahoo fantasy, because of flash. please make Html5 standard already!!!!
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I agree. It's taking entirely too long. It's really only a matter of time, though. Hope you made it to a desktop in time before your entire team was auto-drafted!
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Flash make your processor to work really hard. that's too bad. HTML 5 is too much better.
You can still download sideload flash and use it on JB for a while, until HTML5 becomes more popular
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I don't think he knew flash is not supported on JB... luck with your draft!
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I hate flash. The sooner we can dump it for a better open-source alternative the better!
I'm all for ditching Flash but there are so many websites I use that need it....
It's one thing to push everyone towards HTML5, but they could have done a much better job of the rollout. Flash has been crashing more and more often on sites here recently. The fix needs to come soon.
lets all move foward
I agree.. flash was so last year.. lets move foward to html5 and never look back!
well, I think there are still hips of devices (something like 80+% of overall android devices)running with GB & ICS out there, so it wouldn't be a brillent idea to take it off from them suddenly, maybe they should consider to keep flash on the play store but can't be installed by a JB device
I'm not a fan of flash, but it does serve a purpose.
Prior to all the HTML5+ options, it was the only practical way to do interactive stuff on the web. I think we are out growing the need for it, but it's not dead yet. I think it will be some time before it's gone. Companies spend LOTS of money on websites, and they can't just up & drop flash if their sites depend on it. There will be some time needed for them to rewrite their sites w/out flash.
I was really disappointed that "Saint" Steve Jobs outright banned it from apple devices, however that probably did speed up the adaption of other technologies over flash.
Adobe Flash is indeed sluggish and should be scraped as it currently is in progress of being.
But there are still so many websites that are so slow at implementing html5 as a alternative until Adobe Flash is completely gone.
It is really annoying to not being able to look at videos online with the phone because basically 8/10 sites doesn't support html5 properly.
Only the big sites support it, like Youtube.
Ehh ive never liked flash, glad its disappearing.
RIP!!!
in death there is new life... hope AIR and HTML5 helps to keep the leagacy on....:good:
I agree, I'm ready for Flash to fade into existence.
Yes, HTML5 is much better than Adobe Flash, but many page aren't work with HTML5.
Rip flash, long live html5
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So what is the real difference between Flash and HTML5?
Flash was great once upon a time
R.I.P FLASH GOGO HTML5
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just thought i'd share this, it's basically words with friends but strictly for android
its really nice when it works, but the servers have been messing up recently
http://mobiputing.com/2010/08/wordfeud-free-scrabble-or-words-with-friends-clone-for-android/
Seconded, I picked this up a few days ago. Although the servers are a bit troublesome right now, when they get that all sorted out the app itself is very well done, the UI seems quite polished. My only complaint is the ads after each turn can be somewhat intrusive, but otherwise I definitely recommend this to scrabble fans.
first froyo, now this... i officially love my android so much more
this will help me kill plenty of time at work. thanks!
wordwise is another scrabble like game for the android
I have been using word wise (WW) for a while since it has been the only option. A recent update really polished up the UI. I downloaded this and will try it out, I'm hoping it is at least AS good as WW because I don't really like how many permissions WW has access to.
only annoying thing so far are the ads holy crap.
I have been using word wise as well but haven't stopped playing word feud since i got it
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Nice using them both now and just suggested my recent iphone to droid friend to do the same.
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those ads are AWFUL
Seeing that you can skip them after one second of viewing... I'm okay with that.
Google is unvailing its chromebook. (Yeah another piece of tecnology to help google reach its goal of World Domination)
Its said to boot in 8 seconds, eliminates backups and updates, and will Replace(kill) Windows.
What Do you think About It?
Also offtopic on my offtopic thread but will XDA support HDTVs that are web connected. Meaning will there be any developement.?
Most people have never heard of cloud computing so i predict a slow adoption rate and a very, very small market share.
Mine showed up totally unexpected yesterday. It's fast and different. Rooting is done by a switch near the battery. Comes with 100 mb (verizon) free for 2 years. However, got it working with AT&T today.
Would love it to be compatible with Android apps, however, it can be dual booted with Android or most any other OS.
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Mine showed up totally unexpected yesterday. It's fast and different. Rooting is done by a switch near the battery. Comes with 100 mb (verizon) free for 2 years. However, got it working with AT&T today.
Would love it to be compatible with Android apps, however, it can be dual booted with Android or most any other OS.
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You got an actual chromebook?! I'm assuming not a CR-48 as that was all supposed to be done ... and I keep hearing June 15th or whenever for the official ones ... ?
I'm exited to get my hands on one. I love my little CR-48 but it can be as slow as an old dog. The latest updates have really helped though, I notice the time it takes to reconnect to WiFi after sleep has been cut in half, if not more. I just think the single core kind of holds it back for the most part. Not a whole lot of difference from some of the newer specs I had seen, but apparently they are quite speedy. A dual core will do that, considering the OS itself is so lite - such a minor bump would obviously result in a pretty drastic performance boost.
The update with a more 'official' file manager and media playback was nice to see, if not late.
I'll never be pulled from my desktop, or even more proper notebooks, but the Chrome OS angle is definitely a neat and handy one at that. In terms of practicality, some things just aren't the same / comparable.
And I think the cloud term sort of swings people for a loop ... the cloud is essentially the internet. Obviously. I just think the term results in people over-thinking it. When you explain it like that people seem to 'get it' more.
As best as I can tell it's the CR-48. It has a codename of Mario. Non branded.
Cloud computing is a different paradigm than traditional. However with Dropbox, box.net and Sky drive, I have about 40gb of storage available.
There are some interesting sites on the web about Chromebook. The facinating (but somewhat confusing) thing about the entire concept is the lack of a "desktop". Running everything from a browser is clunky.
I am going to re-check my CB to see what it's packed with.
I was pleased that I can use my AT&T sim and that I am not married the Verizon. Would love to use as a phone... better yet, will be trying to dual boot Android to use the apps available.
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Yeah sounds like a CR-48. Lucky guy, heard they ended shipment a while ago. I love the look of the unbranded notebook myself, totally sleek and totally sexy.
Finding workarounds for most tasks can be a little overwhelming, but once you spend some time looking around you get some good suggestions from people on what may be a good method / alternative.
I like the idea myself, a lite and speedy OS that doesn't require 'protection,' fast boots and returns from sleep at an amazing rate and also not having all sorts of **** shoved down your throat.
It's obviously not going to be a legitimate replacement for all, but as a secondary notebook it can hold its own. And for those that have netbooks for simple and not so demanding tasks, this could easily replace their devices. 'Cloud computing' isn't as complicated, or daunting, as some want to make it out to be.
Just another option for the people, and something I could see being pretty successful for a select group / market share.
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I haz a cr-48 (so does Sparky) and I really love it! I got it working with my T-mo SIM card but I usually just use it with my wife-eyes...
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It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
YBLEGAL1605 said:
It's hard to find much discussion about ICS and flash player. Basically, from what I've found, there is no hardware acceleration. For me, it's important that it function at least as well as Gingerbread allowed.
I had LPY flashed for a day, but didn't have time to test the following. LPY was silky smooth, and I was getting amazing battery life, but choppy flash video on some sites killed it for me. However, I am safely and successfully back on GB, LC1, Darky. Originally flashed back to stock-rootable GB through ODIN, rooted, then applied Darky in CWM..for anyone that cares. Rocking 240 density, LauncherEX, DialerEX, loving all the extra real-estate. Too bad NoteCore0.1 refused to allow density changes!
Has anyone had any improvement forcing HW acceleration?
How about 2D GPU Rendering in Dev Options?
Maxthon Browser for 10" Tab? (Transformer Prime forums indicated this particular release of this particular browser has some magic property that runs flash correctly)
Does anyone care enough? Work-arounds? Where would the central ICS Flash Player discussion be?
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same problem here, and there are a lot of comments in the market regarding this! also the 2d hardware acceleration does not change this "flash-desaster"...
Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Out of interest why do you need flash so bad? Its support sucks because its a dieing platform you can do everything in html5 that flash can do and ota far lead resource hungry making it much better for mobile devices
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
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foxmeister said:
First of all, you simply cannot do everything in HTML5 that you can do in Flash! Whilst the functionality gap is getting smaller all the time, it isn't currently zero.
Secondly, there are several very popular websites across the globe that still rely on Flash. For example, BBC iPlayer, which is used extensively in the UK, uses Flash to deliver content.
Flash may well be dying, but it isn't dead yet!
Regards,
Dave
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
I don't know where I've read but Samsung or android // Google wants to move on to html5 (aka to drop flash support), like Apple did a long time ago.
Yes, html5 is better from resorce-consuming point of view, but still a lot of websites use flash.
We only hope that more websites will move to html5-based animations in future.
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Especially Korean drama streaming sites.
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Many sites with funny videos are using flash video players. And almost all other news portals are using flash videos too. Social network (vk.com) uses it too. This is a very common web component.
By the way, I noticed that there 2 versions of adobe flash. YBLEGAL1605, what is your adobe flash version?
11.1.111.9 - is for Android 2.3.x and Android 3.x.x
11.1.115.8 - is for Android 4.x.x
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Yes, I want it for the random site I'm bound to come across.
How lame is it when you say you have the latest technology, then when a friend or family asks you to check out some website on it, then it doesn't work, because it doesn't support flash, a technology so old....well, ya it's old! My old windows mobile phone played some of theses ICS problem sites just fine! That's not cool.
I'm back on GB, 11.1.111.9. I'm pretty sure when I was on LPY, it was version 11.1.115.8. I know I uninstalled it, and re-installed it from the market. This fixed the original blue box missing plugin scenario, but now we have the chop. Also, a few articles saying Adobe is stealthy releasing 11.2 seems to be a lie because I can't find any apk's OR market review with 11.2.
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
And from what I know about the only things html5 cant do is interact with a web cam and dosnt have DRM support
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Nice! I didn't think of skyfire but actually that's what it took to make my WM phone play back in the day. Is been a while.
As soon as this ICS bug is squashed, I will probably flash it and give skyfire a go. For the most part I can live without some video, but it looks really tacky when you want to show it off if it's broken.
Here is a read:
http://thenextweb.com/dd/2012/05/22...nds-of-times-slower-on-mobile-devices-report/
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In both cases I would recommend using skyfire web browser as it compresses flash video to a more support format https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skyfire.browser
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Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
Regards,
Dave
Personally I'll be glad when Flash dies, for lots of reasons, but understand why it's a pain right now.
As for the BBC iPlayer comments; I've no problem at all on LPY with the app. Am I just not fussy enough?
foxmeister said:
Personally, I don't think much of Skyfire as a browser, and its "Flash" video support is flakey at best in my experience - with iPlayer, I more often than not get a "media error".
Skyfire is a great solution if you don't have native Flash, but when you do it just doesn't cut it IMO.
I wish that the BBC hadn't used Flash for their Android iPlayer implementation, especially when they could've just tweaked the containers for their iOS streams to support both Android and iOS simultaneously. It certainly looks like a remarkably short sighted decision given that Adobe is dropping Flash support for mobile.
Regards,
Dave
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+1
skyfire suck balls
Well I doubt it will be to much longer until the iplayer has native html5 video (after all it already uses this for iOS) and as flash support gets killed for mobile by adobe other formats will take its place, I would say less and less sites are souly use flash, but of cause for years to come there will be random sites that still only uses it, its the case with all new formats.
Personally I have always found streaming and using flash within the browser to just be a bit of a pig and most of the time just wait till I can get to a computer
Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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Literally just got my note today, and was just about to update to ICS but though I'd better check if there were any drawbacks before I plunged right in, and luckily enough I saw that flash has been dropped (Actually in a blog post about 10 reasons why ICS is better than gingerbread, it was casually dropped in whilst saying the new browser is better)
Soo... Am I right in thinking I have to decide whether I'd rather have flash and put up with cut down mobile versions of websites OR full websites but no flash?
I've spent happy years with an N900, and so I'm quite accustomed to the internet on my phone being the same as on my desktop...
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From my experience flash is not not unsupported it just is a bit pants on ICS. I recently debated with myself about this as I'm a fan of the Escapist website but their HTML5 media only comes with a paid subscription.
Running their site on Dolphin with a Desktop UI works okay until you try and maximise the video content. Then everything falls over and you have to begin again and just zoom in on the video as best you can.
This is okay I guess but a bit of a pain when I know their Flash stuff would work a lot better on GB.
I can't let go of Paranoid Android tho, it's just too sweet.
I'm on CM9 and have no problems with flash on ics+ browser.
Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Skyfire is a horrid browser, caused me nothing but issues trying to watch 'flash' videos or even goto everyday websites like facebook.
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Forget Skyfire. It used to work but nowadays it's useless. It does not play most of the videos I frequently come across.
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So while we still wait for official ICS Motorola announces that we quite possibly might get JB.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
and if not, they'll give a $100 allowance (for a new phone being introduced) to anybody that can't be upgraded to JB.
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and if not, they'll give a $100 allowance (for a new phone being introduced) to anybody that can't be upgraded to JB.
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That $100 would go nice towards a Maxx HD. Of course the Developer Edition.:good:
Unless they just roll out JB instead of ICS, I'd guess we'll see JB some time next summer. No faith at this point.
Very sad all the new phones lack removable batteries, perhaps we'll see a Bionic HD too, with removable battery, lapdock option. I think the Bionic concept is great, if Motorola would actually make it work well and then market it well.
By the time the Bionic has JB via OTA, i expect to be using another phone for a while.
"the company will attempt to upgrade all of its new and existing Android handsets to Jelly Bean "very soon." "
It's been said the Bionic has been EOLed, not sure how accurate that is. Good chance they don't consider it "existing", but rather "old". I mean, it's been out a whole year! I would not be shocked if we got F'ed on this, but I am hoping.
its possible you need to have ICS installed before you can install JB? in which case if ICS doesnt come out, JB is SOL
We will get JB. They said all devices from 2011 and this year will get it. I watched their presentation live on YouTube. My question is will they just skip ics and go directly to JB.
I'm interested in their new phones having a developer edition. This is long overdue. I also believe that if you want a long battery life, it has to be put in like it is with the Razr. I suggest watching today's presentation over reading about it.
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We will get JB. They said all devices from 2011 and this year will get it. I watched their presentation live on YouTube.
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Yes but they also had a disclaimer right after that that said there are a few devices it just won't work on and won't be done. They didn't say which ones. That is apparently the target for the $100 - those that can't get JB.
JB on Droid Bionic
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its possible you need to have ICS installed before you can install JB? in which case if ICS doesnt come out, JB is SOL
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JB can be installed without going to ICS
If the Bionic gets Jelly bean that would be great....
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Yes but they also had a disclaimer right after that that said there are a few devices it just won't work on and won't be done. They didn't say which ones. That is apparently the target for the $100 - those that can't get JB.
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Well, let's define the criteria. I'd start with ones they said couldn't do ICS. Since we have dual-core and 1gb, we were slated to get ICS. So, there is still a chance Jelly Bean is in the cards. But unless they can get the bugs worked out in ICS, Jelly Bean will take a while to develop.
I'm just curious as what is so great about jelly bean? It won't have flash, and regardless of what people believe, most video sites plan on staying with flash. The big content providers don't like that HTML 5 exposes the video files that they can currently hide with flash, and will do like what hulu has done and release an app for mobile users. When you dig deeper than the major headlines, you will find out that many don't want to use HTML 5 for video streaming.
In my case, my college's website uses flash to access assignments online and without flash, I lose one of the more important uses of my phone. Online videos and college are the only reason I'm not running the ICS leak because flash didn't work for me and adobe aalready pulled it from the market. I know it's a disappointing move for the Razr owners who went from being able to watch online videos, to getting an update and no longer being able to watch them anymore.
I've learned not to listen to what some of the tech writers say because they are the same ones who thought Google + would take over Facebook and that the windows phone would stand a chance competiting with android. My belief is that the content providers will use this as an opportunity to charge for content that was free in the past for mobile use, which Hulu already has.
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I'm just curious as what is so great about jelly bean? It won't have flash, and regardless of what people believe, most video sites plan on staying with flash. The big content providers don't like that HTML 5 exposes the video files that they can currently hide with flash, and will do like what hulu has done and release an app for mobile users. When you dig deeper than the major headlines, you will find out that many don't want to use HTML 5 for video streaming.
In my case, my college's website uses flash to access assignments online and without flash, I lose one of the more important uses of my phone. Online videos and college are the only reason I'm not running the ICS leak because flash didn't work for me and adobe aalready pulled it from the market. I know it's a disappointing move for the Razr owners who went from being able to watch online videos, to getting an update and no longer being able to watch them anymore.
I've learned not to listen to what some of the tech writers say because they are the same ones who thought Google + would take over Facebook and that the windows phone would stand a chance competiting with android. My belief is that the content providers will use this as an opportunity to charge for content that was free in the past for mobile use, which Hulu already has.
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You should be able to side load flash player (hopefully). I just loaded it on my Nexus 7 and it works perfectly with an AOSP browser.
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smokedkill said:
I'm just curious as what is so great about jelly bean? It won't have flash, and regardless of what people believe, most video sites plan on staying with flash. The big content providers don't like that HTML 5 exposes the video files that they can currently hide with flash, and will do like what hulu has done and release an app for mobile users. When you dig deeper than the major headlines, you will find out that many don't want to use HTML 5 for video streaming.
In my case, my college's website uses flash to access assignments online and without flash, I lose one of the more important uses of my phone. Online videos and college are the only reason I'm not running the ICS leak because flash didn't work for me and adobe aalready pulled it from the market. I know it's a disappointing move for the Razr owners who went from being able to watch online videos, to getting an update and no longer being able to watch them anymore.
I've learned not to listen to what some of the tech writers say because they are the same ones who thought Google + would take over Facebook and that the windows phone would stand a chance competiting with android. My belief is that the content providers will use this as an opportunity to charge for content that was free in the past for mobile use, which Hulu already has.
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You can still install it to your device from play.google.com. Here is a link it doesn't show up when you search for it. It should also be under your previously installed apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adobe.flashplayer
rbennett12 said:
You can still install it to your device from play.google.com. Here is a link it doesn't show up when you search for it. It should also be under your previously installed apps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.adobe.flashplayer
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Sorry guys, I think that Flash just will not be supported no matter what in 4.0 and up. Here is a direct quote from the Market's link: "Flash Player WILL NOT be supported on any device shipped with or upgraded to an Android version beyond Android 4.0.x".
OTA JB would make me SUPER HAPPY!! Now I''ll just have to hold my breath..........
We should be getting it, our phone is certainly capable. Don't know if they'll decide to just forgo ICS and skip to JB or not but my guess is all of the phones with 1 GB ram will be getting it, which leaves the Droid 3 and X2 users who will probably be getting the $100 vouchers. Of course when we get the updates is another story.
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Sorry guys, I think that Flash just will not be supported no matter what in 4.0 and up. Here is a direct quote from the Market's link: "Flash Player WILL NOT be supported on any device shipped with or upgraded to an Android version beyond Android 4.0.x".
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just because it won't be supported doesn't mean that it won't work. it works fine on my kindle fire running JB. others have posted that it works fine on their Nexus 7.
in regards to the other discussion, i cant imagine that the bionic would fall into the category that JB won't work on. especially given that it is nearly identical (spec wise) to the gnex.
JB DOES work on the Bionic. I have it. (CM10 Kexec for Bionic alpha). It is SO SMOOTH! Google Speak is way faster then Siri. I did a side by side test with my Bionic and my friends iPhone 4S. Will it or won't it work should not be debated. The big question is when will we get it. That is what we should be asking.
Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.
I love it.
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Lets keep personal opinions about users from different nations to yourself. This is a development forum, not a place to vent personal feelings. Now keep it on topic.
Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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leelaa said:
I love it.
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Lets keep personal opinions about users from different nations to yourself. This is a development forum, not a place to vent personal feelings. Now keep it on topic.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.
So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.
Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:
I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.
What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.
Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:
Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!
[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Yes
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erica_renee said:
HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?