Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.
I love it.
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Lets keep personal opinions about users from different nations to yourself. This is a development forum, not a place to vent personal feelings. Now keep it on topic.
Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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I love it.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.
So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.
Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:
I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.
What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.
Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:
Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!
[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Yes
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erica_renee said:
HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?
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can't figure this out, Iam quite annoyed. If you can do it on a phone you should be able to do it on a tablet.
If I go to the web based market I can do it, but to hell with that, why should I need to? What an inconvenience.
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can't figure this out, Iam quite annoyed. If you can do it on a phone you should be able to do it on a tablet.
If I go to the web based market I can do it, but to hell with that, why should I need to? What an inconvenience.
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As of right now you can't.
I've noticed this too. There was one app that I was lookoing at once and it actually had little tabs at the top for comments, ratings and ect. Its weird it isn't for all of them.
My Xoom Sent This
I was trying to figure this out as well, its rediculous that you can't submit ratings on the tablet market app!
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My first pet peeve. What can I say, even Google is not immune to hiring morons.
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
BTW, it's so annoying that the Facebook widget doesn't work on Honeycomb and neither does Pandora. Jeez.
Yeah the devs are seriously slacking at Facebook
Trillian has a ton of annoyances I'd love to comment on yet can't, so yeah it's pretty annoying.
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My first pet peeve. What can I say, even Google is not immune to hiring morons.
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
BTW, it's so annoying that the Facebook widget doesn't work on Honeycomb and neither does Pandora. Jeez.
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Let's see you be smart enough to get employed by google then
If you use the web market, you can leave comments. That's what I have been doing.
No comments?
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But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
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WOW! This is the most constructive comment i've read on the internet about this issue so far...thanks!
Since honeycomb ecosystem is not yet evolved, they make it harder for zoom users to post bad comments and bad ratings. They did it on purpose. They were smart to do this in a sence. But it makes me hate their guts a bit.
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But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
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this is exactly the reason why. i suspect it will soon once they have a way of marking apps which are honeycomb optimized - and then you can comment on those apps
edit: if it bugs you log on to the market from a pc and you can post reviews there
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WOW! This is the most constructive comment i've read on the internet about this issue so far...thanks!
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The answer may be but this ways developers are not pushed to think about Honeycomb support...
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The answer may be but this ways developers are not pushed to think about Honeycomb support...
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I wouldn't say that... If developers want to go with the times, they can't simply ignore honeycomb. I'm sure they are thinking about it alright. I agree it's annoying... but just give it some time.
fyi... Load a phone account gmail that u have with a facebook app with... Then goto market and download your market apps from that phone acct... I have a working facebook widget on mine..
I use web browser, login to android market (from xoom), rate, leave comments... then i open market and i can leave, rate apps without browser!
Edit: Used to be wtf happened to WWF.
Here is the apk.
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So today WWF dropped support for our tablets. Show your support by going to Zynga.com and offering negative feedback. This same company many months ago promised a Honeycomb version of the app. Today 3.1 users can't download it in the market. With enough complaints maybe they will understand how many of us there are!
Edit: Here is a link to contact the developers. http://support.zynga.com/CP_ContactUs?gameid=0&loc=en_US
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Really? Because when they updated it about 3 weeks ago they said in the update notes an actual honeycomb release is coming very soon.
Early june is when they said it, again.
We are in July (couple hours).
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Take your tablet to the market and try and download it. Read it for yourself ... not the only place reporting this.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/06/28/words-with-friends-loses-support-for-android-honeycomb/
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Take your tablet to the market and try and download it. Read it for yourself ... not the only place reporting this.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/06/28/words-with-friends-loses-support-for-android-honeycomb/
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Yes, I noticed this several days ago, and i'm sure they removed it because they were sick of the low ratings since it didn't scale correctly.
The letters were cut off at the bottom so u could only see 3/4 of it, people kept down rating it because of that. E looked like F unless you physically moved the tile out to see the bottom.
And it still says this on the market page:
"We are actively working on improving the Words With Friends as much as possible. Players can look forward to expecting a Honeycomb version soon."
So like i said, I'm sure we will beable to download it again once it's fixed and an official tablet version is released. And yes, that update notification was a month ago like i said.
I submitted a ticket to voice my opinion. Us Honeycombers need to speak up if we want more app support.
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Yes, I noticed this several days ago, and i'm sure they removed it because they were sick of the low ratings since it didn't scale correctly.
The letters were cut off at the bottom so u could only see 3/4 of it, people kept down rating it because of that. E looked like F unless you physically moved the tile out to see the bottom.
And it still says this on the market page:
"We are actively working on improving the Words With Friends as much as possible. Players can look forward to expecting a Honeycomb version soon."
So like i said, I'm sure we will beable to download it again once it's fixed and an official tablet version is released. And yes, that update notification was a month ago like i said.
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You are 0-2 my friend. Take a look at the reviews in the market. I went 20 deep and all bad reviews came from phone owners.
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You are 0-2 my friend. Take a look at the reviews in the market. I went 20 deep and all bad reviews came from phone owners.
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What? Why are you being a ****, I'm just stating what ive seen. Ive been playing wwf since launch of the xoom and I have noticed bad reviews... Go easy... and yes I'm one of the several people that emailed them about the scaling issue and they didn't seem to want to fix it until they released an actual tablet optimized version... which is why I believed it was removed.
Chill out.
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I submitted a ticket to voice my opinion. Us Honeycombers need to speak up if we want more app support.
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We need more productive thinking like that. Android is behind in the app/game market. iOS has some really well developed apps that we will never see unless we speak up.
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pretty sure it was removed from honeycomb market for the fact it was performing so terribly people were complaining. it'll be released within the next 2 weeks imo.
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pretty sure it was removed from honeycomb market for the fact it was performing so terribly people were complaining. it'll be released within the next 2 weeks imo.
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Yep, I hope the honeycomb one comes out soon like it says!
It was cut off at the bottom, but it was still playable. I don't see why they had to remove support while they get their act together for honeycomb.
I opened my app today and it says "An upgrade is available, click OK to upgrade" (no other options). I click OK and am redireted to the Market, where I am unable to upgrade because my device is no longer supported. I go back ot the app and am greeted with the same message telling me to "upgrade" with no "cancel" or "later" option, just "OK"
The box refuses to go away (back button doesn't work either) so I'm unable to play. This is utterly moronic.
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I opened my app today and it says "An upgrade is available, click OK to upgrade" (no other options). I click OK and am redireted to the Market, where I am unable to upgrade because my device is no longer supported. I go back ot the app and am greeted with the same message telling me to "upgrade" with no "cancel" or "later" option, just "OK"
The box refuses to go away (back button doesn't work either) so I'm unable to play. This is utterly moronic.
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It would become more of a priority to the developers if they see the number of Honeycomb users upset about this. Shoot them a quick email and let them know how you feel.
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Someone from a different forum suggested going to getjar to download it. It working on my unrooted xoom. I tried to post the link but it said I didn't have enough post to.
3.52 apk
Here's the latest 3.52 apk pulled from my hero. It works fine on my xoom (with the usual cropped bottom row), but at least I can still play until they get it sorted out.
If this is not allowed feel free to remove it, but as it's free in the market I see no issue posting it.
com.zynga.words-1.apk
If you have issues clicking on it then right click and save link as...
Thanks for the apk! Wish zynga would get it together.
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maybe they should take some of that one billion dollars and make us a tablet version
Maybe just me, but I'm waiting for a good version just for our phones much less for our tablets. Never have I seen such big companies release such buggy crap. Its pathetic. A tablet version would be awesome tho.
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I submitted a ticket to voice my opinion. Us Honeycombers need to speak up if we want more app support.
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Wanting more honeycomb apps is fine but make sure you complain to the right people. If zynga is for sure already working on a honeycomb version then bugging them is useless. Bug the companies or devs who haven't considered honeycomb yet. If the note zynga placed on the market isn't enough hopefully this youtube is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9sbOF_OcIw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment, things generally run a bit slower, the lock screen is buggy and Quickoffice can no longer save changes to files. Not exactly a forward step.
Same here buddy, lockscreen takes a long time to respond
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I hate it when folks feel the need to start their own topic when there are 100 similar ones that would do.
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Are you sure you turned off automatic brightness?
Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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If it was really a bad update, why doesn't it affect everyone? I have a stock locked tablet, and simply flashed Google's factory image.. No issue whatsoever!
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I have almost only good experiences with the 4.2, generally feel more stable and haven't noticed any sluggish behaviour. Only problem Im having is with bluetooth, it won't remember profile selections for my paired devices. So everytime I connect to my phone for internet access I need to go and tick internet access under profiles
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The majority of people come here for solid technical advice, and some of this discussion hardly inspires confidence. We also need confidence in Google as we have invested in their product and it is perfectly legitimate to raise concerns about the 4.2 update that they pushed to our devices
If you use Bluetooth, for example to tether, then you will have been thrown by the changes to the interface. It was not obvious how to connect, and is actually quite inconsistent in that clicking the device name disconnects which is different to what's needed to connect.
One of the advantages the Nexus has over the Mini is the 16:10 screen great for widescreen movies. It's no surprise then that loss of USB mount (a feature available when many of us decided to buy the Nexus) has hit us hard. Yes there is a paid App which might allow movie streaming but I use the USB to extend storage for the huge game files we must download and so this is a major loss.
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has a legitimate complaint - the update is terrible and people have every right to be upset about it.
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I cant believe its not butter :/
On a serious note. I am yet to face any problems with 4.2. I like it alot. Battery life is great, keyboard is great and quick settings i love.
Just like 4.1.2 but with extras
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Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment, things generally run a bit slower, the lock screen is buggy and Quickoffice can no longer save changes to files. Not exactly a forward step.
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Screen brightness is an isolated issue I suspect not caused directly by Android, as most people don't see it.
Everything runs just as fast as 4.1.
Quick Office has a coding problem, not Android.
Stop.
I have only seen 1 real bug in 4.2 and that's the missing December bug.
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Screen brightness is an isolated issue I suspect not caused directly by Android, as most people don't see it.
Everything runs just as fast as 4.1.
Quick Office has a coding problem, not Android.
Stop.
I have only seen 1 real bug in 4.2 and that's the missing December bug.
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It is most certainly NOT as fast for me, just because it is ok on your device please don't assume everyone else's is the same!
I actually love 4.2. A little lag here and there, but I owned a Huawei Ascend with like a 500 mHz processor, a Samsung Sidekick 4G with a 1 gHz processor, and a Kindle fire. Seriously Google isn't perfect (but they are damn close) they released an update you don't like, does that mean you should cry and hit the new thread button? No, it means you should just flash 4.1.2 and save server space. Especially when there are 100 other topics exactly as useless as yours. We don't need more of them.
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Google released a bad update, I don't know why people yell at others for being upset. We didn't see threads like this at all for 4.11 or 4.12. Its obvious that Google obviously needs to work on this as people don't post threads like this for no reason.
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Clearly you and other folk unhappy with 4.2 should IMMEDIATELY upgrade to Windows Mojave. It will solve all your concerns. Pinky swear!!!
stevensdrs said:
Since updating to 4.2, my screen brightness keeps going up and down from moment to moment
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Disable Nvidia PRISM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815414
android1234567 said:
Disable Nvidia PRISM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815414
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Has nothing to do with Prism, the heuristics on the backlight seems to allow it to ramp up and down faster than it did before. In fact before the N7 seemed to be very stubborn to change levels, now it's a little too fast perhaps.
No matter what version or ROM I'm using I don't use automatic brightness. I use the lowest setting and adjust when I need to.
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Hating it and loving it ? - wow these are strong words for an OS. Just like W8 people just can't work out whether its the cool thing to be for it or against it yet even though there's no need to take sides or feel possessive about it - we're all here just users equally dependant upon the working of Google aren't we?
One sure thing though - bugs will iron out but things like the way Bluetooth works now and the loss of USB mount are major hits for those of use dependant on those features for the last 4 months.
USB mounting was never part of 4.1... why are people suggesting it was? You needed root and stickmount or a custom ROM.
Stickmount will update eventually. Stop blaming Google for breaking something they never supported in the first place.
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Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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I don't really get where people find the time and energy to post like this. Get a refund and move on with your life, already.
The galaxy gear is awesome (and so is the pebble, the sony smartwatch, etc. Can't wait to see what Google and Apple do)
Samsung has really knocked this out of the park and showed us the potential of wearables - probably better than anyone - and how they're so obviously going to be the future.
Samsung has been innovating incredibly well lately. I really hope Microsoft/Google/Apple up their game and keep up!
Well...it is indeed lacking a lot of features that should be there right out of the box but I am sure you have done your research before you bought the watch. I did do my research and I am quite happy with the watch. I wouldn't buy it at $300 but at $210 with tmobile discount 30% off, this is not a bad buy at all.
I never once had a problem with installing apps from Samsung app store. Their selection is really small and apps are not that great but it never hang or fail to install for me. You can also sideload apps as long as they don't require access to internet if you don't mind some extra steps of installing.
Reading email would be a nice thing but I don't see myself using the tiny screen to read email. I would rather want to do it on the phone.
Facebook update sure would be nice.
Never lock up 4 times a day but then I don't use watch styler app or custom face.
Also please try the ATN app. It helps with all the notifications that I need the watch to show such as whatsapp and whatever others app you might need.
Could it be better ? Sure. Will it get better? Of coarse it will !
There's nothing BETA about it, its simply a new consumer product which hasn't boomed yet.. once the developers gain interest you can bet your ass your going to see some amazing stuff from the gear.
Anything Samsung related on the watch works extremely well, could they have included additional features sure. But why would they ? Its a Samsung device providing support with Samsung products/applications straight out of the box.
All the things listed can be easily resolved via software updates, or third party software. Eg. ATN.
Any complaint you have about the gear will have the same complaubt about the new sony smart watch. Its new. Do your homework before you buy something.
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Eh, I love mine (got the 30% off deal) but I agree with the OP and am disappointed with the small amount of apps in the Samsung store... and at least half of it is junk. A big reason for that is because Samsung is being weird about releasing the SDK to the public, I wish they'd get on with that soon. Though I think (I hope) the situation will get a lot better soon when they release official updates for S3, S4, Note2 to make them compatible with the Gear.
I have to disagree with the OP. The gear is amazing. I don't have problems installing apps and I think some of them are pretty good like watch styler. The only thing I don't like about the gear is that it doesn't show notifications for third party apps and I hope Samsung releases an update enabling notifications for all apps.
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The Galaxy Gear is ready for Prime Time.
I love my Gear.
Has all the Apps I want.
Anybody that takes the time to find this forum should know,
You do not have to get all the Apps from the Samsung Store.
A member of XDA has a solution for notifications, many people use it and like it.
Do not know about facebook, could care less about facebook.
Sounds like the OP thinks the device replaces a smartphone,
A smartwatch tells you at a glance if the message you get is worth pulling your smartphone out.
Who other than the OP, has every had any problems with the Gear Locking up?
Who other than the OP can not find a way to tell time with the Gear?
AstroDigital said:
The Galaxy Gear is ready for Prime Time.
I love my Gear.
Has all the Apps I want.
I agree
Anybody that takes the time to find this forum should know,
You do not have to get all the Apps from the Samsung Store.
I agree
A member of XDA has a solution for notifications, many people use it and like it.
Do not know about facebook, could care less about facebook.
That app doesn't work for me, but I really don't care.
Sounds like the OP thinks the device replaces a smartphone,
A smartwatch tells you at a glance if the message you get is worth pulling your smartphone out.
I agree
Who other than the OP, has every had any problems with the Gear Locking up?
Who other than the OP can not find a way to tell time with the Gear?
I had locking up problems until I stopped using the buggy lockstyler app
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I LOVE my gear watch
For me SVoice/Phone integration/Camera is what makes this watch, and also of course the notifications. Really don't care about apps (Although Tripit, Evernote and MyFitnessPal are nice).
It's like google glass on your wrist!
eing able to reply to messages by voice from my wrist in the car is awesome. I never hear anyone talk about these great features when they are griping about the watch.
Hi . that's a shame you are disappointed.What colour did you get.
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yzf750 said:
Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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I think we can see from this earlier post this persons position
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Well lets see....
Cant even hear a call unless your in a quiet room
Cant reply to a txt with s voice unless its dead silent or s voice gets it wrong
Facebook app turns your phone settings so it speaks every stupid thing its doing
watch making app STILL locks up daily your clock
every other day updates to gear manager trying to fix something without a update list to give you a clue
installing apps hang alot
some dont work or give you just a blank watch face when you try to open them
Guess all the posts in the gear forum are made up
I quit flashing roms and tinkering since my HTC MDA days, I just want a product that works out of the box I guess
Every review is the same.. so so on it. Return rate is high also. The few that love them, great, tinker away with yours. When I can read my 3rd party apps emails, pick from 100s and 100s of apps maybe Ill dig it. Till then its a beta toy as far as im concerned. i knew it when i got it just didnt expect it to be this crappy I guess.
I'd like to know how many of the returned watches are due to either people not usually wearing a watch or because it wasn't compatible with their device
I've not had any of the problems mentioned here (mind, I didn't use watchstyler). Mic and speaker seem fine to me
Hardly any apps these days mention what has changed between versions so can't see that being a negative. Having to reset every time there is an update sucks though (however, the restore thing seems to go ok for the most part)
I just want my notifications to give more detail - mms to show pic, email to display html, sms/facebook/etc not be limited by character limit. It's all very possible going on the evidence
Couldn't care less about apps. Good to be able to sideload though
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Hi . that's a shame you are disappointed.What colour did you get.
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I think we can see from this earlier post this persons position
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Even thinking all that you still went out and bought one.
I love mine.
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yzf750 said:
Well lets see....
Cant even hear a call unless your in a quiet room
your watch must be faulty mines loud enough
Cant reply to a txt with s voice unless its dead silent or s voice gets it wrong
I use tablet talk and Google keyboard to reply
Facebook app turns your phone settings so it speaks every stupid thing its doing
this will be sorted with an update I use dolphin browser and no problem with talk
watch making app STILL locks up daily your clock
no lock ups here
every other day updates to gear manager trying to fix something without a update list to give you a clue
at least they are fixing things and not ignoring us
installing apps hang alot
some dont work or give you just a blank watch face when you try to open them
you must have faulty watch. . return it
the 30% who returned will buy again when new software comes out , Samsung will do lots of new things once it's compatible with all device . It's a clever divide I love it
if you have no friends and no one calls or text you and don't like taking quick pics is probly not for you
Guess all the posts in the gear forum are made up
I quit flashing roms and tinkering since my HTC MDA days, I just want a product that works out of the box I guess
Every review is the same.. so so on it. Return rate is high also. The few that love them, great, tinker away with yours. When I can read my 3rd party apps emails, pick from 100s and 100s of apps maybe Ill dig it. Till then its a beta toy as far as im concerned. i knew it when i got it just didnt expect it to be this crappy I guess.
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mhoepfin said:
For me SVoice/Phone integration/Camera is what makes this watch, and also of course the notifications. Really don't care about apps (Although Tripit, Evernote and MyFitnessPal are nice).
It's like google glass on your wrist!
eing able to reply to messages by voice from my wrist in the car is awesome. I never hear anyone talk about these great features when they are griping about the watch.
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Nailed it!
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I'm loving my gear but can also appreciate where the OP is coming from. In the main I think the gear lives up to its expectations ax far as I am concerned.
The biggest issue I have is the lack of water resistance, and how it handles facebook notifications. I am hoping though that this thing gets better as time moves along. It does worry me however that work on the Gear 2 will already have started and we will end up with a non supported device quite quickly.
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I'm loving my gear but can also appreciate where the OP is coming from. In the main I think the gear lives up to its expectations ax far as I am concerned.
The biggest issue I have is the lack of water resistance, and how it handles facebook notifications. I am hoping though that this thing gets better as time moves along. It does worry me however that work on the Gear 2 will already have started and we will end up with a non supported device quite quickly.
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The op in my opinion just wants to rubbish the gear in anyway possible whether it's true or not
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you have to be blind to call Gear a decent product. they had a great idea, but the execution is terrible and you may disagree with that, but you are lying to yourself. this needs so much work to become a decent product.
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Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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After reading your post, I had to REGISTER to reply.. :fingers-crossed:
Seems like you got a beef with the apps. Not the phone. You keep talking about bad apps, or not enough apps. Well they were selling out in my area, and I got mine on discount. Found out they were selling fast on Ebay. Purchased a couple more at discount, sold them for a profit. It seems like a lot of people think differently than you. We all understand this is a FIRST, you didn't expect this to first run to be PERFECT did you...
BTW, I am a layman, don't know JACK-CHIT, to be honest. I got the Note 3 on a humble, and since I was way over my head with the Note 3, I might as well go all the way..Got the Gear at $209.. Happy Camper...
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you have to be blind to call Gear a decent product. they had a great idea, but the execution is terrible and you may disagree with that, but you are lying to yourself. this needs so much work to become a decent product.
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There must be a lot of BLIND PEOPLE out there. They were selling like hot cakes at BB, and other stores..:laugh:
The lack of apps and not being able to sideload is irritating right now but I believe when development progresses we will get these things. I refuse to pay a dollar for a calculator app or 2048. I would like to have them on my watch but think they are taking advantage. I just gave samsung 200 dollars, they should provide more free useful apps.
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So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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Legacy2385 said:
So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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Some... yes. A calculator should be stock. What's with the attitudes on here today? If they are going to compete with android, they are going to want to develop a lot more apps.
P.s. And over the years, I have given them a couple of thousand. I've been very loyal to samsung.
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Some... yes. A calculator should be stock.
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I agree, man. I love some of the stock apps, for example, the remote app, but a calc app should be default too. I would consider paying for the calc app if it at least had a percentage option.
You can sideload apps, it's just that there are no apps to sideload. I'm sure samsung will provide us with a a calculator just as they provided a sleep app which wasn't available before the weekend
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azpatterson3 said:
Some... yes. A calculator should be stock. What's with the attitudes on here today? If they are going to compete with android, they are going to want to develop a lot more apps. P.s. And over the years, I have given them a couple of thousand. I've been very loyal to samsung. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527
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You can sideload apps, it's just that there are no apps to sideload. I'm sure samsung will provide us with a a calculator just as they provided a sleep app which wasn't available before the weekend Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
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Completely agree with azpatterson3, the calculator is the symbol for the problem! It's not the dollar for the an app. I like many always try to buy the dev's paid apps and I have hundreds of apps stuck on play to prove it! However, for Tizen we have (almost) only that one app (not counting the nascent watch face efforts, and Glympse). Morover, a basic calculator app is the type of app that every single beginning developer publishes for free just to get started! Samsung marketing this in their new Tizen store is . . . .puzzling! The irony is thick!
I do accept polish_pat's point too. There will be a free calculator, more watch faces and more. . . everything. Hopefully many created by outside devs that we can side load. But waiting is really, really frustrating.
Reminds me of when I bought a Motorola Atrix some years back (don't even remember which model right now!) I and many others were waiting and waiting for development on roms --it was painfully slow and limited. I felt like I won the lotto when I switched to samsung and found the rich, and fast development that hit all their galaxy (and note) phones.
However, with our Neo we're back in Matrix territory again. . .waiting for the developers to cross the river and setup shop. It won't be as fast since the population of users is much smaller, probably won't be as rich either. Fortunately, this is only a watch
As for Samsung leading any development surge, well, that would be great. but I suspect they will focus on ensuring the NEo has everything that is out there for other smart watches health bands and that's about it.
Moreover, if the way mucked up the S-Health/ Fitness for Gear approach is any model for how they will go forward, then we truly are going to be stuck in a mediocre app environment. I really hope they get better than that!
Still, I am enjoying what the Neo has now -- the (limited) sleep app, the telephony (great!), text messages and even S voice is pretty good for some searches and messaging for me (so far). Although more than once I have had to nervously say "cancel message" in a panic after looking at what my watch and S voice interpreted my words to be! )
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I do accept polish_pat's point too. There will be a free calculator, more watch faces and more. . . everything. Hopefully many created by outside devs that we can side load. But waiting is really, really frustrating.
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An OS is nothing without a community behind it. You can have the best, most efficient, smooth and gorgeous OS but its simply sucks if there is no one to code for it (aka windows mobile) This watch is Tizen's first serious market entry, so of course it sucks, for now, but remember that the king of mobile gadgets is behind it and it will eventually be something great. We are the pioneers of Tizen, we are paving the way for the future. Tizen is a good opportunity for any dev to have a fresh, new and especially easy revenue stream. I mean a guy coded a freakin simple calculator app and sold it for 1$. I'm sure that by the end of May, he will make at least a couple grand on something that any dev can code in under 1h. Same goes for any other app. If i were a dev, I'd jump on this opportunity of knowing this is a new emerging market that has a very serious bunch of backers (Open handset alliance) and within a year, there will be at least a couple hundreds of thousands of devices just screaming for 3rd party apps. And although a calculator might not be something that someone would spend a dollar on, there are many, many other simple apps that people would pay for. As an example, porting a T1 wrinting input that would allow us to write something directly on the watch
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I'm developing a simple calculator app I'm going to release for free... I find it crazy people are charging for extremely simple apps! I can see charging $1-5 for an app that actually takes some work to develop, but comon, a watch face for $2?!
Its all about opportunity. I'm not ever going to spend 2$ on a watchface, but suply x - demand xxxxxxxxxxx and as long as it stays like that, there will be more and more basic apps for a premium price
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Its all about opportunity. I'm not ever going to spend 2$ on a watchface, but suply x - demand xxxxxxxxxxx and as long as it stays like that, there will be more and more basic apps for a premium price
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Yeah, makes sense... they have had a lot of people buy them already. So hey if you can succeed at it, I guess touche.
But I submitted my calculator! Hopefully it gets approved... first app I have ever submitted. See if it goes through...
Out of curiosity, whats your coding experience? I might get motivated enough to take a crack at tizen. I know the basic stuff on Eclipse and have a few good ideas i would like to try for the gear. Is it easier or harder than for Android?
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polish_pat said:
Out of curiosity, whats your coding experience? I might get motivated enough to take a crack at tizen. I know the basic stuff on Eclipse and have a few good ideas i would like to try for the gear. Is it easier or harder than for Android?
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I consider myself a .NET developer first and Java a lid becoming a close second although I still have a lot to learn. Tizen widgets use HTML and Javascript for the backend. So if you know HTML5 and J Query I would say it's easier than android. Hard part is limited auto complete and knowing the SDK. For the most part I avoided the sdk.
Thanks for app!
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I also submitted a calculator but I avoided their SDK completely
I don't know how Samsung responds they will probably not be happy
Helga Pataki said:
I also submitted a calculator but I avoided their SDK completely
I don't know how Samsung responds they will probably not be happy
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Nice.. I bet they are processing like 59 calculator apps because people had the same idea! But yeah the sdk is just weird when it's javascript... seems too weird to me.
Why don't you guys post your apps here for us to use
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thesparky007 said:
Why don't you guys post your apps here for us to use
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Yes, all you need to do is zip up the wgt file and post that. We can side load w/ sdb install.
Make it into a fun competition. Best calculator wins. ;-]
BigDanInTX said:
Yes, all you need to do is zip up the wgt file and post that. We can side load w/ sdb install.
Make it into a fun competition. Best calculator wins. ;-]
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I'll see if I can post mine later tonight. Found a small bug with mine where you can stack functions... also going to be implementing advanced functions here soon.
I just zip the wgt file with any normal zip program?
So you don't need the sdk to make app for this watch? I am not a programmer but I read that sdk is closed sources. I know closed source is restricted.
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Legacy2385 said:
So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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my sentiments exactly...:laugh: