Is there a ROM available which does not have HTC Sense, and has only Native Clean Andriod in it..
There's no Generic Android rom atm. I'm also waiting + hoping for one.
What about Nexus One ROM? I really digg the UI
If you pay for a premium MoDaCo account, you can cook a MoDaCo rom without Sense UI
I no longer care for Sense. It's great when you have a current Android version, but it creates a big lag-time between new Android release and new HTC rom release.
I wish I had gotten the Nexus One instead.....
Sebastian768 said:
I no longer care for Sense. It's great when you have a current Android version, but it creates a big lag-time between new Android release and new HTC rom release.
I wish I had gotten the Nexus One instead.....
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I feel you mate. I had the same thought. Looking at how slow HTC were in bringing 2.1 to the Hero, I have a bad premonition that the same gonna happen to the Legend.
And I really like the UI/UX on the Nexus One. Any custom ROM that has Nexus One app launcher, photo app, etc.?
Well I've searched and there's only a few (3 that I could found) custom roms available now, all with Sense. I decided for myself to give it another 2 wks and then, if there's still no clean Android rom, I'm selling my Legend and getting Milestone. And no more HTC phones for me as they only make them with Sense now.
MichaelAlexanderBull said:
If you pay for a premium MoDaCo account, you can cook a MoDaCo rom without Sense UI
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not Full... you get a lot FCs if you cook a rom without Sense
There is a rom available on Modaco without sense.. Espresso
It works very smooth and looks great!
This is the link
Edit: No, there still is Sense.. Just with extras.
if you hate it so much,why don't you disable it...
well it isn't quite disabling but it will work fine...go to settings application management and find htc sense and click "remove defaults" or so....next time you hit the home button you will be prompted to use sense or android home...if you want to keep the android home,simply hit "make default" in the same window that pops out when you press the home button
farukb said:
if you hate it so much,why don't you disable it...
well it isn't quite disabling but it will work fine...
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Like you said it's not quite a disabling. All HTC custom apps are still there. I want default Android Calendar, Contacts, Clock, Messages applications
rubbish said:
Like you said it's not quite a disabling. All HTC custom apps are still there. I want default Android Calendar, Contacts, Clock, Messages applications
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How about you disable it, and the abd into your phone and delete HTC sense and all the sense widgets and apps?
That may work?
That may work?
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Don't think so Michael. I'm prepared to be corrected but I don't think default android apps wiill appear upon deleting HTC custom apps.
I did try to remove the HTCSenseLockScreen.apk and it did not give me the default google lockscreen... it was really strange... the lockscreen did work like the sense one where you drag it down, but no background on it and the text was messed up...
Right now i am playing with the Sense from the MyTouch and that look great...
rubbish said:
Don't think so Michael. I'm prepared to be corrected but I don't think default android apps wiill appear upon deleting HTC custom apps.
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Yeah they won't, but i would be willing to cook a rom containing the factory legend rom rooted, and with no HTC apps but stock android apps, if someone would be willing to test this method?
i am willing to test... if you want i have the system from the vodafon 2.02.178.2 build.. well it is in the 2.2 tread on modaco from some china dude.. i mean why not use the latest bug fixes also for the rom if it should be..
farukb said:
if you hate it so much,why don't you disable it...
well it isn't quite disabling but it will work fine...go to settings application management and find htc sense and click "remove defaults" or so....next time you hit the home button you will be prompted to use sense or android home...if you want to keep the android home,simply hit "make default" in the same window that pops out when you press the home button
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It's not about hating SENSE, it's about wanting the stock Android because of updates, ie. a better phone. SENSE is great, when it's paired with the latest Android. But when it's used with an older than current version, it creates lag time.
I am going to sell my Legend and get an Nexus One. It's older, but it's still betterish than anything else out there.
MichaelAlexanderBull said:
How about you disable it, and the abd into your phone and delete HTC sense and all the sense widgets and apps?
That may work?
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I did it this way, deleted allmost every HTC stuff. But if you remove a HTC-app, it will not give you the default android one. You have to get these apps from somewhere. I just thought about creating a rom without that htc stuff.
But i have to say that not every htc app is crap. Some apps are better than the android one.
Have you tried removing Rosie?
Any problems afterwards?
I have made a sense free (ish) Rom, there is still some slight differences like the black bar on top.
But it still beta, i will upload it tonight or tomorrow
EDIT :
Deffo tomorrow, i am too tired to keep working
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Hi,
Merry christmas to everybody... Thanks to xda developpers for all the work done... Hope next year will be the same and better
I have a question. Is it possible to desactivate sense ui to set another like ahome, gde or else ?
Thanks
Tony
tony28 said:
Hi,
Merry christmas to everybody... Thanks to xda developpers for all the work done... Hope next year will be the same and better
I have a question. Is it possible to desactivate sense ui to set another like ahome, gde or else ?
Thanks
Tony
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Yes you can, simply install the Home replacement, go into Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, find Sense UI, Reset Default. When you press the Home button, it will ask which Home to go to, but if you check the box, use this default, it will go to that Home everytime you press the Home button.
But if i do that, will it erase the sense ui ? Can i erase it ? If i activate the other one, will it be slower if i don't uninstall the sense one ?
Thanks
tony28 said:
But if i do that, will it erase the sense ui ? Can i erase it ? If i activate the other one, will it be slower if i don't uninstall the sense one ?
Thanks
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you can't delete or uninstall sense. the steps described by gu1dry are absolutely correct. if you want to go back to sense just do the same, but delete the defaults for the homereplacement you have set as your default (gde or whatever).
You can remove the ui. I have done this to my hero.
All you need to do is remove rosie.apk from the phone and reboot.
Or try the rosie remover from modaco.
It goes very well.
just download home switcher from apps store, allows you to use the vanilla UI and any others you have installed you can easily change to different ones and change defaults
Why though?
Why get rid of the Hero's strong point?
Seems a bit weird to me.
Should of had a V8 i suppose
Ace42 said:
Why though?
Why get rid of the Hero's strong point?
Seems a bit weird to me.
Should of had a V8 i suppose
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lol i know sense rulez !!!
Well first is that even possible? If it is then what is the result?
I am curious because lately my phone has been resetting itself (I don't mean a full reboot, but rather sense seems to be reloading. I am not really sure how to describe it but it is kind of like in windows when you log off and and log back in and windows restarts but you don't go through the whole post test) At first I thought maybe it was an app messing up and then I thought maybe it was the rom itself messing up, but now I am thinking that maybe sense is being flushed from memory and when that happens it needs to reload.
Any thoughts?
dsMA said:
Well first is that even possible? If it is then what is the result?
I am curious because lately my phone has been resetting itself (I don't mean a full reboot, but rather sense seems to be reloading. I am not really sure how to describe it but it is kind of like in windows when you log off and and log back in and windows restarts but you don't go through the whole post test) At first I thought maybe it was an app messing up and then I thought maybe it was the rom itself messing up, but now I am thinking that maybe sense is being flushed from memory and when that happens it needs to reload.
Any thoughts?
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It is sense rebooting itself.... get rid of it
DirtyShroomz said:
It is sense rebooting itself.... get rid of it
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OK so you are basically confirming my latest suspicion. I like the clock (with the weather and effects) widget to much get rid of it.
What would cause sense to reset itself?
(If I don't use sense then does that mean I lose all my flickr and facebook syncing?)
dsMA said:
OK so you are basically confirming my latest suspicion. I like the clock (with the weather and effects) widget to much get rid of it.
What would cause sense to reset itself?
(If I don't use sense then does that mean I lose all my flickr and facebook syncing?)
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Not at all... Some roms have issues with the memory and sense as far as I know and constantly cause it to reboot... I just changed roms
DirtyShroomz said:
Not at all... Some roms have issues with the memory and sense as far as I know and constantly cause it to reboot... I just changed roms
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do you know of any aosp roms with sense besides alysius?
If you download beautiful widgets you can get the sense looking clock and there are several widgets to replace the sense ones. Some HTC apps and widgets have not been mimicked yet. Launcher Pro Plus has a contatcs and one other widget available now and he is working on making more like HTC's. I really like launcher pro and run it instead of sense if I run a rom with sense, which is not very often. I have been running darchdroid or CM6 most of the time and do not miss sense.
You might try reflashing the ROM you are using without a wipe and see if that fixes it.
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If you download beautiful widgets you can get the sense looking clock and there are several widgets to replace the sense ones. Some HTC apps and widgets have not been mimicked yet. Launcher Pro Plus has a contatcs and one other widget available now and he is working on making more like HTC's. I really like launcher pro and run it instead of sense if I run a rom with sense, which is not very often. I have been running darchdroid or CM6 most of the time and do not miss sense.
You might try reflashing the ROM you are using without a wipe and see if that fixes it.
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Will reflashing have any effect on apps2sd
I wish all apps had a free or trial version so I could sample them before having to commit to any money. Beautiful widgets does it mimic the weather effects of HTCs clock/weather widget?
dsMA said:
Well first is that even possible? If it is then what is the result?
I am curious because lately my phone has been resetting itself (I don't mean a full reboot, but rather sense seems to be reloading. I am not really sure how to describe it but it is kind of like in windows when you log off and and log back in and windows restarts but you don't go through the whole post test) At first I thought maybe it was an app messing up and then I thought maybe it was the rom itself messing up, but now I am thinking that maybe sense is being flushed from memory and when that happens it needs to reload.
Any thoughts?
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What rom and kernel are you using, those new OC/UV kernels are known to cause this and so are task killers?
joehunni said:
What rom and kernel are you using, those new OC/UV kernels are known to cause this and so are task killers?
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I am using Aloysuis 2.1.2; the restarts occur in both the 2.1.2 and the 6-29 update. The kernel is listed as being: 2.6.29-d30020a8 [email protected] #1
I am not using any task killers other then autokiller (which came with the rom and allows you to set memory levels on when the phone will start various apps e.g. empty app, content provider, and hidden. I currently have it set to the optimum preset which has the following levels set: hidden app: 40, content provider: 50, empty app: 60
Being that I know believe sense is restarting in spare parts I have "home app in memory" checked but I don't think this has any real effect on the problem.
This will be the home for Senseless rEVOlution. I'm starting a new thread because the current Redemptive rEVOlution thread has over 5000 posts and it's hard enough to keep track of things for that Rom.
Summary:
Senseless rEVOlution is an Incredible/EVO hybrid with all of Sense stripped away with only the necessary parts left in tact for those who use alternative launchers such as ADW (which is used by default due to it's Open Source licensing) and Launcher Pro. This Rom is based off of my current Rom Redemptive rEVOlution.
Features & Change Log:
See my current Redemptive rEVOlution thread for a feature list for the base Rom & current Change Log http://bit.ly/gxoxSt
Is this an AOSP Rom?
NO this is not an AOSP Rom. Even though I've stripped away most of Sense it's still based on Htc Sense thus you can only use kernels and themes based on HTC Sense.
Why don't I just use Redemptive rEVOlution and install my favorite alternative Launcher?
If you find yourself using an alternative Launcher then you're not using 90% of the Sense apps so why have them installed on your system taking up precious space and and in many cases these apps are "actively syncing" information and using your precious Ram. The benefit of using Senseless rEVOlution is these apps are removed for you thus saving Space and Ram which in turn will increase overall speed and battery life.
Can I use themes made for Redemptive rEVOlution?
Absolutely! Thats another benefit of this Rom because it's using the exact same framework as Redemptive rEVOlution you can continue to use your favorite theme that you've been using on Redemptive rEVOlution. (Themer's rejoice! No porting will have to be done for this project)
Parts of Sense that have been removed:
Backup Assistant (available via flashable zip in "Sensless" folder on your SD Card)
Plugin Manager
Rosie
App Sharing
Widget Download Manager
Weather Widget
Htc Friend Stream Widget (Friend Stream has to stay to sync Facebook contacts)
Htc News Reader & Widget
Htc Music Widget
Htc FM Radio & Widget
Htc Add Program Widget
Htc Bookmark Widget
Htc Calculator Widget
Htc Contacts Widget
Htc Copyright
Htc Mail Widget
Htc Messages Widget
Htc Photo Widget
Htc Profiles Widget
Htc Ringtone Widget
Htc Settings Widget
Htc Sync Widget
Htc Weather Wallpaper
Htc Twitter Widget
Deleted all HTC Wallpapers
Bugs:
Selecting Friend Stream will prompt a Force Close
Installation:
Place HBoot .92 on Root of SD Card then boot into bootloader when asked if you want to update select Yes after update when asked if you want to reboot phone select Yes.
Flash Senseless rEVOlution via Rom Manager or by using Clockwork Mod Recovery.
All Optional Content is in the "Redemptive" folder which is pushed to your SD card during install. This folder contains various Mods that can be flashed just like a Rom using Rom Manager or by using Clockwork Mod Recovery.
Disclaimer:As with any Rom or Mod flash you are taking matters into your own hands I will not be held responsible for any bricked devices or be held responsible for the injuries you may inflict on others if this were to happen.
Restoring Apps/Data:This install will format your system. If you want to back up your apps with titanium fine but just do the apps not the data. This is my recommendation if you back up data and then have problems don't say I didn't warn you. Also please don't argue with me about the Rom wiping the system I'm the developer and this is the way I feel will provide the best non glitchy experience. As a result I can spend less time trouble shooting and more time working on the next release....Thanks guys for everything...Lou
Downloads:
HBoot .92 REQUIRED
http://www.multiupload.com/AWPY93YE51
Senseless rEVOlution 2.0
md5sum: 131cf208ff0df78d07db8f36d243f549
http://www.multiupload.com/KZT5ZM0IEH
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Reserved for future use.
Sweet!
/ten
Nice!!! Waiting for the download link =)
Woot! Let's do this!
Haha sweet!! Can't wait to see it!! When you said there were themes that could be used on this that were intended for Redemptive rEVOluton, will they actually work? Aren't most themes made for sense?
Am I just missing the download link, like that tricky thang where I have to agree to turning over my first born and clicking "here"?
Now this is something I am excited for.
omgi0wn said:
Haha sweet!! Can't wait to see it!! When you said there were themes that could be used on this that were intended for Redemptive rEVOluton, will they actually work? Aren't most themes made for sense?
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The Rosie won't be themed since rosie isn't going to be present but all themed apps and framework including status bar stuff will still get themed just fine. Remember this rom isn't 100% Senseless, just 98%.
mp3sum said:
Am I just missing the download link, like that tricky thang where I have to agree to turning over my first born and clicking "here"?
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No, you are not just missing it.
I'm pretty sure Lou does not want your child.
Patience is a virtue.
All I have to say is Woot. Great job Lou. Now have to make a decision on which to flash once I have root again. But your the man. No your better then the man.
I think I sense an AOSP Rom in the works from Lou as well...
I do have a question on the Theme part though. Some of the themes contain the apps that you are pulling out. If we are going to try this out and flash a theme, should we be pulling those out of the ZIP before flashing?
Sweet! I've been eagerly awaiting this!
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You said that you've removed friendsteam. Is it possible to add it back so that we can sync our facebook contacts?
alphatectz said:
All I have to say is Woot. Great job Lou. Now have to make a decision on which to flash once I have root again. But your the man. No your better then the man.
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do i detect a man crush???????
Lou,
Will this incorporate the vanilla android keyboard?
omgi0wn said:
You said that you've removed friendsteam. Is it possible to add it back so that we can sync our facebook contacts?
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He said in the OP that Friendstream was still intact, the widget was all that was removed. I do this on all roms because I don't use friendstream, except for facebook contact pic sync.
omgi0wn said:
You said that you've removed friendsteam. Is it possible to add it back so that we can sync our facebook contacts?
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The OP states that only the widget is removed because Facebook is required to sync contacts. You will still be able to sync those contact if I read it correctly.
spence341 said:
I think I sense an AOSP Rom in the works from Lou as well...
I do have a question on the Theme part though. Some of the themes contain the apps that you are pulling out. If we are going to try this out and flash a theme, should we be pulling those out of the ZIP before flashing?
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Very good point. It won't hurt to install them however if they rely on the "Rosie" to run then it will just be wasting precious system space so I would rip them out of the zip with an archiver.
spence341 said:
The OP states that only the widget is removed because Facebook is required to sync contacts. You will still be able to sync those contact if I read it correctly.
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Yes you are correct Facebook contacts sync flawlessly however if you try to open Friendstream it will prompt a force close.
Hi there,
Got my hands on my friends HTC One which I unlocked and rooted. Still running a stock rom though.
I was wondering if anyone decided to ditch the Sense 5 yet and what the consequences of that might be, basically what I'm trying to do is disable the blinkfeed but I assume it's part of HTC Sense?
If you flash an AOSP or AOKP rom you will lose zoe function, boomsound and other stuff
However, i think you can't fully disable blinkfeed
i've ditched the launcher for Nova, still like all the other sense apps and features
Guich said:
If you flash an AOSP or AOKP rom you will lose zoe function, boomsound and other stuff
However, i think you can't fully disable blinkfeed
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Ah okay, I'll guess there will be custom roms in the future without sense but with the important features.
Time will tell eh:good:
I found that HTC Sense was draining a lot of battery after I signed into a bunch of different accounts. I think it was mostly BlinkFeed, but there could be more.
After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, I skipped the sign in prompts for HTC's services, and only signed into my Google account. From there I installed Nova Launcher, and my battery life has been better than ever.
Personally I still want to keep HTC Sense for the IR blaster app and Bluetooth apt-X, but most of the other features are unnecessary to me.
earlyberd said:
I found that HTC Sense was draining a lot of battery after I signed into a bunch of different accounts. I think it was mostly BlinkFeed, but there could be more.
After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, I skipped the sign in prompts for HTC's services, and only signed into my Google account. From there I installed Nova Launcher, and my battery life has been better than ever.
Personally I still want to keep HTC Sense for the IR blaster app and Bluetooth apt-X, but most of the other features are unnecessary to me.
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I haven't seen this HTC sign in prompt you're referring to, does the stock launcher run in the background?
shaggydiamond said:
Hi there,
Got my hands on my friends HTC One which I unlocked and rooted. Still running a stock rom though.
I was wondering if anyone decided to ditch the Sense 5 yet and what the consequences of that might be, basically what I'm trying to do is disable the blinkfeed but I assume it's part of HTC Sense?
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If you're just trying to get rid of blinkfeed, you can use any of the custom launchers (Apex, Nova, GoLauncher, etc) and you won't have to worry about it anymore.
If you're rooted/ROM'ed, you can run the ROM Cleaner script (link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247656
Hi guys,
I recall seeing in a thread that it was possible to revert from HTC's recent apps to the stock vanilla type by deleting a file. Not sure if i am remembering this wrong but is it possible? Not a fan of the HTC recent apps and closing each app one by one.... pretty crappy imo.
THanks!
Stock recent apps screen
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
I recall seeing in a thread that it was possible to revert from HTC's recent apps to the stock vanilla type by deleting a file. Not sure if i am remembering this wrong but is it possible? Not a fan of the HTC recent apps and closing each app one by one.... pretty crappy imo.
THanks!
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This can be done if your phone is rooted. Atleast it works on mine (Rooted and running ARHD 12.2 with stock kernel). Look for the fields 'isHtcStyleRecentApp' and 'support_HtcStyleRecentApp' in '/system/customize/ACC/default.xml' and change their values to 'false'.
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
I recall seeing in a thread that it was possible to revert from HTC's recent apps to the stock vanilla type by deleting a file. Not sure if i am remembering this wrong but is it possible? Not a fan of the HTC recent apps and closing each app one by one.... pretty crappy imo.
THanks!
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You can't kill them any other way than one by one on the stock recent apps so other than the look being vertical instead of 9 cards, you will still have to swipe them away one by one.
Recents KillAll mod for HTC one
AllAboutTheCore said:
You can't kill them any other way than one by one on the stock recent apps so other than the look being vertical instead of 9 cards, you will still have to swipe them away one by one.
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True. I personally like the 9 card HTC style, except that it doesnt have a kill all button. I have made a small mod which adds a kill all button to the HTC recents app screen. This is an Xposed mod so it needs the Xposed framework to be installed. I am using this and its working fine on ARHD 12.2 . I am not sure about others ROMs but it should work on all sense based ones.
Install instructions.
1. Install Xposed framework.
2. Install the apk.
3. Enable it in Xposed installer.
4. Reboot.
If it doesnt work on your device please let me know. I ll look into it.
As always, take a backup before trying this out (shouldn't be necessary but just in case).
My issue with the stock multi tasking is you cannot get into the App Info screen from it so you have to take the long way... very annoying that they removed that feature
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altimax98 said:
My issue with the stock multi tasking is you cannot get into the App Info screen from it so you have to take the long way... very annoying that they removed that feature
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 4
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sure you can. tap and hold app in recents....
oops, sorry, wrong recent apps version. nevermind...