Trackball Frozen Red - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't know if this is the correct place for this, if not please move, thank you. After updating to Froyo, my trackball has been frozen red, I've tried flashing other roms... still red, Even in the bootloader screen the trackball is still red. The only time it's not red is when the phone is off. Any help? Thanks.

lol dont mean to laugh but that sounds like a pretty funny bug

Do not post personal problems in the development thread

lol, personal problems. Ya, take it to a shrink you whacko! Just go to the Q n A part of the Nexus forum and ask questions there next time, k?

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Ketchup?? XD

Sh-t is not funny til it happens to your nexus

kadenstern said:
I don't know if this is the correct place for this, if not please move, thank you. After updating to Froyo, my trackball has been frozen red, I've tried flashing other roms... still red, Even in the bootloader screen the trackball is still red. The only time it's not red is when the phone is off. Any help? Thanks.
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Well the good thing is your phone still works... Did you drop or bang it? The only change you made was updating to froyo? If so, then try from scratch. Including upgrading your recovery again... Here, just follow the prerequisites in the link below and then follow those instructions to reinstall froyo. Post back your results.
Tutorial Here

No such luck after wiping clean and doing what the tutorial suggested even with a totally clean Froyo. Still stupid track ball stays lit. Occasionally changing from red to orange. At first it may sound funny but is actually quite annoying haha.

kadenstern said:
No such luck after wiping clean and doing what the tutorial suggested even with a totally clean Froyo. Still stupid track ball stays lit. Occasionally changing from red to orange. At first it may sound funny but is actually quite annoying haha.
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I'm speechless... I don't understand what would cause it to stay red then unless it's a hardware issue. Doesn't seem like a software issue anymore since you replaced all software.
Sorry then, you'll need to bang it really hard and see if it stops lol or replace it.
What happens when you get another notification? Like a tweet or something, does it change to that color and revert back to red?

I have no idea either. Thanks for your tries though. Well I guess since it's rooted I would have to pay for it since that clearly voids the warranty. And when I go to the notifications setting and change to different colors it faintly blinks that color in the background but is still red (or orange).

kadenstern said:
I have no idea either. Thanks for your tries though. Well I guess since it's rooted I would have to pay for it since that clearly voids the warranty. And when I go to the notifications setting and change to different colors it faintly blinks that color in the background but is still red (or orange).
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yea your red is stuck, def. not a software issue anymore. Sorry man... Say it's the Terminator edition.

Thanks a lot. I like your suggestion by the way lmao. But instead I called HTC and am sending it in for repairs within the next few days. Thanks for the tries again.

kadenstern said:
Thanks a lot. I like your suggestion by the way lmao. But instead I called HTC and am sending it in for repairs within the next few days. Thanks for the tries again.
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mind updating this with info from what happens with HTC?

Mine is stuck green... flashed recoveries and done full wipes too. What did you tell htc? They give you an approximate cost to repair? Im wondering if I should tell my phone insurance I lost it...

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flashing green led

i would be internally grateful if someone could tell me how to extinguish, once and for all, the green flashing "network coverage" led. it just bothers me, makes me think i have a missed call or the device is trying somehow to speak to me through an array of monosyllabic words. it has to go.
p.s. please dont say "stick a bit of tape over it". i already weighed up the pros and cons for that option.
the LED will turn yellow in case you have something missed. it will turn red when you battery is under 5%.
so if it is green, you're good. you did not miss anything, and you are "covered" (network wise ;-))
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=2400
This may be what you're after.
cheers hicks, i think that is just what i am after. i would just rather it didn't flash at all until the phone has something important to tell me.
I personally like to know if my phone is on and can receive calls. In case the green light is off totally, it will be misleading to me.
It's bloody annoying if you are trying to read an ebook, though! Thanks in advance for the link; I'll give the cab a go if the forum ever get around to activating my membership!
spider_j said:
It's bloody annoying if you are trying to read an ebook, though! Thanks in advance for the link; I'll give the cab a go if the forum ever get around to activating my membership!
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ha i rember a while back when i got my first wizard it bothered me no one had a fix back then i think if i got rid of it now id miss it lol but let me know if that link fixes it
that cab was near perfect. exactly what the doctor ordered. my green light is gone. not only that but i can assign different coloured leds to different missed calls, texts and so on. its even addressed my problem of sms and missed call reminders! one small gripe tho.. cant assign a blue led to the bluetooth.... there's no pleasing some people!
Absolutely brilliant, this worked a charm! Especially no flashing lights or notifications during certain times, generally when I'm asleep!
WizRd said:
Absolutely brilliant, this worked a charm! Especially no flashing lights or notifications during certain times, generally when I'm asleep!
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yes, that cab is brilliant, and the best thing is that the guy is still working on it and updating the versions.
yea that program works perfect!
It does work really well at stopping the flashing light, but, unbfortunately, ther flashing light that I like - Bluetooth - can't be blue anymore! I set it the green LED, but because I am used to the green flashes all the time, I forgot to turn bluetooth off when I got to work this morning. My own stupidity, I suppose. If the writer can get the blue light working for that function, this will be an excellent program instead of a very good one.
I think I have what you are looking for.
LED-Killer 3.1
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=5689
This tiny little programm only disables the green network coverage LED. The rest remains unchanged.
Works like charme on my kaiser.
Give it try and let me know if it works.
nevermind.
I installed that 1st program and I got an error and now my LEDs dont work. Help!!
Error said "LED port cannot be opened" <----Why is that?
pocketeer, thanks for that link - LEDkiller works like a charm for me.
teknowledge said:
I installed that 1st program and I got an error and now my LEDs dont work. Help!!
Error said "LED port cannot be opened" <----Why is that?
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if you have a problem, try asking the guy that made this app. He is at modaco.com(nick: Phil_UK) or just search the download section ane u will find the cab and contacts there.
Hi
I installed that 1st program and I got an error and now my LEDs dont work. Help!!
Error said "LED port cannot be opened" <----Why is that?
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I'm the author.
If you are getting LED port cannot be opened it is likely in use by another program or it's being used on a device that isn't supported.
Have you installed it twice perhaps?
The program makes no permanent changes to your LEDs so to restore them back to the HTC default uninstall the program and do a soft reset, the best way to do this is press and hold power button and turn it completely off and then back on again. Providing you have no other programs on there trying to set them they will be back to normal.
Regards
Phil
Thank you for the program Phil. It is appreciated.
sweet thanks man my tilt arives monday cant wait to use this very polished app.

Broken Kaiser or it's a software issue? please help! I can't start my phone

Htc tytn II.
It happened already once before two weeks and today again and i can't start my kaiser. First time i manage to start it somehow i don't even know how and i thought it won't happen again. When i push a start button only green color light appears on it, and nothing on screen. like it didn't start at all.
After that i can't do anything except soft reset which only shut down phone and green light gone then. Or take battery out! so i tryed everything later and now can't even start my phone anyhow!
I flashed rom in past and have some of dutty's rom in there
Please help me and tell me what is wrong with my phone and how to repair this problem?
now i can't even get green light. now is completely dead. I am worried if i send it at service with warranty that they will see i have no official rom (i'm on dutty's)
kaiserivica said:
now i can't even get green light. now is completely dead. I am worried if i send it at service with warranty that they will see i have no official rom (i'm on dutty's)
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Flash it back to stock, all the details are in the wiki, you just have to read. Then you can warranty it.
kaiserivica said:
now i can't even get green light. now is completely dead. I am worried if i send it at service with warranty that they will see i have no official rom (i'm on dutty's)
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If it is dead and won't start how are they going to find out you don't have a stock rom?
It is not like they have a bunch of brilliant guys sitting around HTC miraculously reviving dead phones. They through it in the dead phone pile and use it for parts.
Could be a battery issue (highly unlikely as I havent really heard of this happening ever) but still, its possible. So, if you have a replacement battery try it out. Also, has it been water damaged, have you dropped it multiple times or has something hit it hard? These things could also brick a tilt, something like that happened to my friend when a door slammed his wizard.
I doubt its a software issue, a software issue would still allow it to turn on.
bubbleking2 said:
Could be a battery issue (highly unlikely as I havent really heard of this happening ever) but still, its possible. So, if you have a replacement battery try it out. Also, has it been water damaged, have you dropped it multiple times or has something hit it hard? These things could also brick a tilt, something like that happened to my friend when a door slammed his wizard.
I doubt its a software issue, a software issue would still allow it to turn on.
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now i tryed again in the morning and green light on phone again works. but only it!
So it is now a battery issue then ?!
doesn't help anything else again. didn't had any hard hit in it. i was yesterday at Prodigy music concert so maybe there get some hit but it should not be anything seriously.. For the first time it didn't get any hit.. It was rainy here yesterday and i had it in my pocket, but first time when this happened it wasn't rainy, than it was on hard sunny day and for the first time i thought it was because of sun! Now was quite rainy and wet day...
hm. i have news now here, when i leave it on green light started for a longer period, i get those multiple lines colors on screen i see. it's approx. 10 colors lines... and it stays for a 10 sec. approx. and after that it shuts down itself! And now again i cant even get green color. Disaster!
KD8DNS said:
Flash it back to stock, all the details are in the wiki, you just have to read. Then you can warranty it.
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how to do that when i can't even start my phone to work!
kaiserivica said:
now i tryed again in the morning and green light on phone again works. but only it!
So it is now a battery issue then ?!
doesn't help anything else again. didn't had any hard hit in it. i was yesterday at Prodigy music concert so maybe there get some hit but it should not be anything seriously.. For the first time it didn't get any hit.. It was rainy here yesterday and i had it in my pocket, but first time when this happened it wasn't rainy, than it was on hard sunny day and for the first time i thought it was because of sun! Now was quite rainy and wet day...
hm. i have news now here, when i leave it on green light started for a longer period, i get those multiple lines colors on screen i see. it's approx. 10 colors lines... and it stays for a 10 sec. approx. and after that it shuts down itself! And now again i cant even get green color. Disaster!
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I suggest trying another battery as was said before. Or it can be also broken screen or something.
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I suggest trying another battery as was said before. Or it can be also broken screen or something.
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it's not broken screen because first time i somehow manage to start it and it works normal for 2 weeks.. so it must be a battery...
i will try with other battery later from friends kaiser
kaiserivica said:
it's not broken screen because first time i somehow manage to start it and it works normal for 2 weeks.. so it must be a battery...
i will try with other battery later from friends kaiser
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ok, let us know if that worked.
i tried with friends battery and it's not a battery problem. With his battery same problem, and when i put in my battery in his phone it works normal...
looks like I'll need to go to htc service using warranty... i hope it won't be some problem with them because i have dutty's rom
argh... not good!
now i got phone call from servicer who manage to turn on phone. And he saw in there dutty's rom, not official and my warranty now won't worth
now everything what he will do with phone i will need to pay by my own money.
Now he started phone and he says that he will return it to official rom and see will phone work then normal. If not he said he should change whole mother board to fix this problem which is really huge expense. He told me price almost same as new kaiser!!! terrible!
disaster, now i heard with service and the phone is not working well even with official rom now. I don't know what to do! He said he need to change motherboard and the cost for that is like new phone! Terrible. So, to be honest, this rom flashing is total mistake because could easy loose phone just like i do.
i would like to sell it but don't know how now because he don't work properly!
kaiserivica said:
So, to be honest, this rom flashing is total mistake because could easy loose phone just like i do.
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That's the risk you take when flashing a non OEM rom. If the rom your using isn't worth that risk, then don't flash it.
I bet the rom you were using didn't cause the problem either.
kaiserivica said:
disaster, now i heard with service and the phone is not working well even with official rom now. I don't know what to do! He said he need to change motherboard and the cost for that is like new phone! Terrible. So, to be honest, this rom flashing is total mistake because could easy loose phone just like i do.
i would like to sell it but don't know how now because he don't work properly!
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The problem can be or can not be caused by rom flashing. It could be just some hardware fault which has nothing to do with rom flashing.
Mikulec said:
The problem can be or can not be caused by rom flashing. It could be just some hardware fault which has nothing to do with rom flashing.
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i agree. i also don't thing it's because of rom flashing. probably some hardware failure...
but problem is when i can't start phone i can't change official rom offcourse
anyone know how much new motherboard cost and can i get it online somehow? here in croatia is not easy to find this because very few this phones are available... same with parts of this phone
kaiserivica said:
i agree. i also don't thing it's because of rom flashing. probably some hardware failure...
but problem is when i can't start phone i can't change official rom offcourse
anyone know how much new motherboard cost and can i get it online somehow? here in croatia is not easy to find this because very few this phones are available... same with parts of this phone
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dont know, but try to ask this question in kaiser accesories section.

Help me please, dead tytn2 :(

Hello guys, i really need your help!
My phone is so strange now, i have been using Ultimate-X.V9 -21054, but in last days, my phone has gone to white screen some times when i press to screen up sometimes everything is fine, but others not and my phone sometimes dont respond to my touch, and sometimes is a bit slow
Now i have flashed to RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PTG_3.28.410.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship, during the upgrade my phone stay on tree colors, but on computer appeared the status bar! and everythime i turn on my phone now is like 90% is allways white :O i have open my phone, and reconected all again, but the problem still there! im using 3.34 hard spl!
Please someone help meee... i really love my tytn2 is there any way to put this fine? its hard spl problem?
Please help me
Please help meee My phone now is more slow than normal :/
That happened to me a while back, I took it apart several times and checked connections etc. but that did not fix it. I ended up buying a new LCD off of ebay which fixed it perfectly. So, I would suggest doing that (I bought one for 15USD used).
But this to me seems to be a problem on the main board, because the phone sometimes gets really slows And sometimes that white problem appears and others not, like 90% when i need to use my phone
Flash Stock ROM?
Did you flash if back to a OEM ROM? Did it work OK if you left it on the OEM ROM? I have used "Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2" as a OEM to upgrade from on many phones that I had upgrade issues with.
i think RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PTG_3.28.410.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.17.56_Ship is an OEM rom isnt? :x
P4k1t0 said:
Hello guys, i really need your help!
My phone is so strange now, i have been using Ultimate-X.V9 -21054, but in last days, my phone has gone to white screen some times when i press to screen up sometimes everything is fine, but others not and my phone sometimes dont respond to my touch, and sometimes is a bit slow
Now i have flashed to RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PTG_3.28.410.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship, during the upgrade my phone stay on tree colors, but on computer appeared the status bar! and everythime i turn on my phone now is like 90% is allways white :O i have open my phone, and reconected all again, but the problem still there! im using 3.34 hard spl!
Please someone help meee... i really love my tytn2 is there any way to put this fine? its hard spl problem?
Please help me
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did you ask in the proper thread before starting a new one?
msd24200 said:
did you ask in the proper thread before starting a new one?
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Lolol? and what is the proper thread? --' dont you see this is any rooms i have tried?
P4k1t0 said:
Lolol? and what is the proper thread? --' dont you see this is any rooms i have tried?
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noticed when searching all your post that you went straight to starting a new thread for this instead of asking in on of the flashing threads. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533976
Dude, and in what that link will help in my problem? if search on it, you will find the solution to my problem? the answer is NO, maybe you should read a bit better!
P4k1t0 said:
Dude, and in what that link will help in my problem? if search on it, you will find the solution to my problem? the answer is NO, maybe you should read a bit better!
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dude the answer is yes go ask in the flashing for newbs thread, or one of the other great links in the thread i posted. maybe you should read better the rules about starting new threads because you are having a flash related problem that needs to be asked in a thread already setup to deal with flash related matters instead of starting a new thread.
have you tried pushing the hard buttons to get into bootloader? do you think MTTY may help your current problem?
msd24200 said:
dude the answer is yes go ask in the flashing for newbs thread, or one of the other great links in the thread i posted. maybe you should read better the rules about starting new threads because you are having a flash related problem that needs to be asked in a thread already setup to deal with flash related matters instead of starting a new thread.
have you tried pushing the hard buttons to get into bootloader? do you think MTTY may help your current problem?
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Dude i can enter on bootloader yes, can i use my phone yes! but the problem is that sometimes (i mean, like all the time) the screen stay white when i turn it on, and the phone stays slow!!!!
jsgjm said:
Did you flash if back to a OEM ROM? Did it work OK if you left it on the OEM ROM? I have used "Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2" as a OEM to upgrade from on many phones that I had upgrade issues with.
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i have tried that rom too, but nothing the problem is here
It sounds like your Screen is on the way out. I would replace it.
No lets play nice. Or Ill break out the fish heads lol
zelendel said:
It sounds like your Screen is on the way out. I would replace it.
No lets play nice. Or Ill break out the fish heads lol
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Well, if is about the screen, i can say im safe :x
But one thing on my mind, the white screen i could say to change the screen to one new, but the problem is the kaiser stay a bit slow, and sometimes it dont respond to what i want!
With that stay thinking that the problem is about the mainboard or something like that :s but i hope the problem is the screen, i will buy a new on ebay
The ribbon cable for the digitizer (touch screen) attaches to the LCD, and then both signals feed through the same cable into the D-pad board, so its possible that there is a bad connection somewhere in the LCD/Digitizer assembly that causes it to not sense your inputs, even when the LCD itself is working. Mine just failed completely to a white screen and did not come back. It could be something besides the LCD..try flashing a new HardSPL and/or a different ROM, but if I had to bet, I would bet on the LCD.
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No lets play nice. Or Ill break out the fish heads lol
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Thankyou made me chuckle
P4k1t0, I know you're frustrated that you phone doesnt work, but do not get uppity at the other forum posters. If you sound off against msd24200 and a mod sees it, its likely to lock your topic.
i had the same situation two weeks back after i flash with my own cooked rom.
what i did is flash the stock rom through SD/storage card and everything is fine.
you already try this method ? you can search on how to flash from SD/storage card
to flash by sd card? ok ok i will try it right now to see

HTC Hero CDMA Backlight

Has anyone ever had any issues with the backlight on the Hero?
Lately, sometimes, when I turn my phone on or something, it's as if there is no screen at all. It stays black, eventhough I know that the OS is running. I've even tried rebooting, taking out the battery, etc... I can tell it's booting normally because it does the little vibrate, and then vibrates once the OS is fully loaded, etc... cept, when this is occuring, I cannot see anyting on the screen. If I tilt it just right, I can JUST BARELY see the outline of a window or something (whatever is up on the screen at that time). Then after dealing with this issue for a couple of minutes, and rebooting a few times, it works itself out.
I'm thinking I'm starting to have some type of hardware failure, but really don't want that, because I'm due to upgrade to the EVO here in about a month and don't want a stupid replacement just so I can go buy a new phone a month later, ya know? Anyway, wondered if anyone has had the issue before and what, if anything, they may know to do to fix it.
Thanks guys!
Yes I get the same issue off and on. I think it has to do with CM6 and the brightness settings. Not sure though.
For some reason when I flash CM6 it sets the Automatically Adjust Backlight setting to be off. I figured it was just the nature of the rom, so everytime I flash a new one, I go and turn it on in Display settings.
Kcarpenter said:
For some reason when I flash CM6 it sets the Automatically Adjust Backlight setting to be off. I figured it was just the nature of the rom, so everytime I flash a new one, I go and turn it on in Display settings.
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No man, I'm saying, even when I first turn on my phone, I dont even see the white HTC screen. It's completely black, but vibrates like normal when I press the power button to initially turn it on. It's fukd I'm pretty sure. I can't see a thing on it, not even in recovery. It's completely black, but vibrates at the correct times it should vibrate (when I first press power button to turn on, when the rom initially boots up, etc...)
I'm thinking my hero is dead....
I only had a little less than a month to go before I could get an EVO too.... damn phone.
Have you done any damage to it? Sprint might replace it for free.
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Have you done any damage to it? Sprint might replace it for free.
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Nope, I didn't do anything to it... unfortunately, I'm stuck with CM6 installed on it, because I can't see it to be able to switch back to the stock ruu... LoL
so I hope they don't notice and then say, well, too bad, u'r screwed because u rooted u'r phone. But no, my phone is still immaculate except the 'End' key is chipping off (the paint). That's about it
I'm hoping maybe they'll let me just upgrade to the EVO since I'm due in about a month anyway. I doubt it, but even if they give me a replacement (a new one) then I'd be okay with that.
Welp, they ended up replacing my phone with a replacement (refurbed) Hero... I pretty sure this one is 99% new though, not a single problem aesthetically and it seems to be running froyo quite smoothly. It basically feels like a brand new phone (which according to Sprint Reps, there's an 80% chance of getting a new replacement and 20% chance of getting a used replacement). I'm thinking I'm in the 80% range
Very happy thus far... just my touch screen is a little quirky right now b/c I installed a clear screen protector and believe some of the moisture is interfering with touches... which has been getting better as the hours go on. So that's' good!
Thanks guys on the info.... It's just fine for getting me through until Sept. 15th so I can upgrade meself on the EVO!!!!
We shall see if it holds up until then
Take ya'lls and thanks for all the replies
You should get the epic instead. Lol
(IMHO)
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Dim or dead home button...

Hey guys so. My thrill dropped in value even more the other day when i turned my screen on. And all of a sudden realized that led for the capacitive home button has either blown or severely dimmed. I have never heard of this happening on any device. And it is kinda ugly to look at. I have tried reboots, roms, LG hidden menu... everything to try to get it back. All to no avail. Then i decided it would be far more pleasant to look upon if all the led's were dead. So i apart from taking my phone apart and shorting them out i have tried everything to achieve this goal. Still failure was my result.
My questions to you, the community, is:
1 has this ever happened to you?
2 does anyone no a way of disabling them with a script or mod?
Thanks
do you have the option to leave them on all the time?
if you do leave them on for at least 30 minutes
that in my opinion should reheat the light and just maybe have a working light again.
latinohot said:
do you have the option to leave them on all the time?
if you do leave them on for at least 30 minutes
that in my opinion should reheat the light and just maybe have a working light again.
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that i have not tried. Do you kow a setting or app for that?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
Trekfan422991 said:
that i have not tried. Do you kow a setting or app for that?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
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I can't remember which baseband had the option to go to settings-display-touch key light duration
but I saw it once, but I can't remember which? sorry
latinohot said:
I can't remember which baseband had the option to go to settings-display-touch key light duration
but I saw it once, but I can't remember which? sorry
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I actually just turned on and off my cm7 rom and it got locked screen off buttons on for like an hour. It didn't work
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
latinohot said:
I can't remember which baseband had the option to go to settings-display-touch key light duration
but I saw it once, but I can't remember which? sorry
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That is the way Samsung controls the LEDs for the capacitive buttons on GB and ICS.
When I had the Thrill I used this app to keep the lights on with the screen. If I recall correct there was a way to have them always off. But I'm not sure.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.martinborjesson.o2xtouchlednotifications
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
So... woke up this morning and the home button is now brighter than it has been. But its still a bit more dim then the rest... strange...
isn't the phone covered under warranty?
it is less than a year old right?
Like a fool.. i didn't get the warranty package.
Doesn't matter any way. I scratched the speaker out to make it look silver. Lol
yeah, I wanted to do the same thing to the speaker but was too afraid to press too hard or go over and scratch the screen.
Well I think this phone is great even thou my daily is the galaxy skyrocket, but I like it so much that I bought my daughter a Thrill from craigslist for $150 unlocked, I thought it was a very good deal

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