Hello guys,
I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.
I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.
The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.
But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.
Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?
Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?
My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.
with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.
If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good
If any UK users can tell me how easy a UK order is
And if you were buying one now which would you buy?
Thanks, Luke.
The Desire SenseUI isn't the same as the HD2's SenseUI so loving it on one doesn't mean you'll love it on the other.
It's very easy to order from the UK, mine took 3/4 days to arrive (ordered Tuesday evening, arrived Friday). Everything works fine... the so called 'T-Mobile' version has all the right frequencies for the UK and it comes with the right locale settings for us.
Get N1, put MoDaCo ROM on it and you'll have Sense UI
I had Desire here in the UK, but it turned out to be not geeky enough for me, so I sold it and got Nexus One.
Personally I love the trackball on the N1. The light is awesome. I missed that the most from my blackberry perl when I used an iPhone.
Just my opinion I for not live in the UK so I can't really comment on the specifics for the area.
I bought an N1 and still would if I had to make the choice again. Although I did like SenseUI, it simply wasn't important enough when comparing it against how quick the N1 will get OS updates over other Android devices. The N1 and Desire are very similar phones performance wise, whereas newer Android devices have a better camera etc these two are virtually identical. Therefore it comes down to a pretty simple choice, how quick do you want updates
I appreciate what your saying, and accept that the Sense isn't the same, but while not the same I can see the appeal.
As for the 'T-Mobile' version do I have to specify it at point of sale?
The Modaco Rom looks most interesting i'll investigate it and see what happens. So far i'm leaning more to the N1.
BTW I heard a rumor Google were stop selling the N1 themselves is this true?
They will not sell N1 via the website, but it will still be available via carriers. In the US it will only be T-Mobile, because everyone else decided to not sell N1 and sell Evo 4G and Incredible instead.
In the UK, there should be more carriers, but for now it's only Vodafone as far as I know.
Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
nexus one - t-mobile uk owner
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Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
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it's still for sale at the mo, but a recent googlerumour (tm) said they'd soon be stopping the http://google.com/phone purchase store, only having links to carriers.
I bought one a few months back, first android phone (came from a HTC touch Pro (pm me if anyone wants to buy)) and have to say it is a ruddy good phone, total cost including import tax was a fair bit but still less than having a contract @ £35 a month for 18 months min.
I'm happy with mine and would do the same again.
Personally I like the N1 better. I have an N1 and my brother-in-law has the Desire. Both are nice phones but I liked android stock, speech-to-text and noise cancellation. The sense UI does give the perception of a more polished phone, though, which is ideal if you just want that polished experience and don't care for fiddling around with rooting and different roms. My brother-in-law isn't a geek and just wanted a smartphone to use for social networks and to replace his tom-tom, so the Desire is ideal for him too.
They're basically the same phone and it all depends on how you'll use it. For me, no other phone has voice dictation and noise cancellation and so the N1 stands out from all the rest.
Word of advice:
DO NOT BUY THE UK CHARGER
It's not worth it, I use an 80p shaver plug from ASDA with the supplied US charger.
After extended looking at the two phones the Sense UI is starting to win me over... The Nexus 1 is the modders phone, but what are the widgets like? Sense look really good and useful.
I would say if your going to stick to Stock then Get the Samsung Galaxy S I hear its amazingly Fast!! but if you want to Root get the nexus one.
it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.
it's either Desire or Nexus 1.
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it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.
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Then it has to be the N1.
Desire isnt as easy to root. The current root for it doesnt allow you to write to the filesystem if I understand corectly. So if you want to have the most options available to you, I would go for the N1.
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You should also be aware that the total cost on googles site is not the total cost at all, when ordering to the UK you will be charged a variety of taxes including VAT and customs tax etc etc which make the phone alot more expensive. I personally recomend you buying the phone from a friend with an upgrade coming on Voda, most people find it hard to turn down £400 cash. Thats just my 2 pence
You only pay VAT at 17.5%. There's no duties or customs taxes on the phone itself.
You only pay duty on accesories, eg the UK plug - which is pointless - just use a US to UK adapter for 50p
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Hi all, Im finally giving up on my old HTC Tilt and want to move to actual android device. Through my work i get amazing discounts from sprint and thats leading me to either get the Moment or Hero, I must admit im scared of ditching the hardware keyboard. I also get ok discounts with verizon and would be able to get the droid for just over $100, versus $30 for the moment or hero. Do you think the droid would be worth the extra 70? Im scared to not have XDA-dev anymore and dont know when rooting would be possible with the droid. any advice would be great. thanks all and sorry if the questions are dumb
The question is how much is the Verizon data plan? NOthing can beat the sprint plan I have( Family Plan).
Droid is the darling now and give it a month, it will be rooted. What would be nice is having the actual correct way to achieve root. There is no way the developer won't let themselves have root.
based on total cost of ownership, sprint is the way to go. the droid is faster, and has android 2.0 but the hero is going to be getting it soon and the moment is getting some type of upgrade as well. in my eyes the droid is comparable to the moment but with a bigger screen, but the moment has a much more crisp display. it is beautiful. my dad has it. i have a hero. ma b im biased but i say hero. lol!
I guess it is difficult to really say since I have and adore the Hero. Frankly, the new droid is too boxy and I like the software keyboard.
i prefer the hero because it has HTC and i love there designs on the software i have the touch vogue now the hero best choice i made
I went from a hardware keyboard on the Q, Mogul, and TP to the Hero. It took me about 30 minutes to get used to the SIP-only input, but I love it.
I guess it helped that I was using a modified SIP on my Mogul and TP, but software keyboard on the Hero is really not bad - I have the spell check and suggestion settings turned on, so even if my chubby fingers hit the wrong part of the screen, 9 times out of 10, it gets fixed before I'm ready for the next word.
My only complaint about the auto-suggest / correct on the Android over WinMo is that WinMo would suggest phrases that you've used in the past, and give preference to common words. Android makes no such distinctions (that I've seen).
If you get good discounts with Sprint, then I'd suggest going that way. Sprint's EVDO is excellent and seems to be getting better all the time. I get 25% off my bills, which makes the already cheaper data plan basically free (not really, but compared to $35 - $50 from other carriers).
with sprint i would get 23% off a month, no activation fee and the hero or moment for 29.99. Its really hard to pass that up for so dang cheap, and my monthly bill would be roughly $24 dollars cheaper then verizon. So the droid would be really costing be $600 more then the hero/moment.
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with sprint i would get 23% off a month, no activation fee and the hero or moment for 29.99. Its really hard to pass that up for so dang cheap, and my monthly bill would be roughly $24 dollars cheaper then verizon. So the droid would be really costing be $600 more then the hero/moment.
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I went from a Samsung Instinct to HTC Hero - night and day difference. My wife is still using her Instinct, says she'll replace it when it breaks. There is so much more you can do with the HTC Hero than a standard phone, plus the widgets just make it awesome. I love the HTC Sense and 7 home screens. Coworkers with their "icon only" iPhones were amazed at how smooth all my screen transitions were. Plus, I've got it fully integrated (like everyone else) with Google contacts/calendar/etc., and Google Voice is awesome.
With the Android OS I don't really think you can go wrong with a phone, there will always be updates so long as the community is around. And by the time the community is dead, you'll probably be able to run a web server off your phone instead of just junking it
My path led me from normal flip phones to the iPhone (my first smartphone), iPhone 3G, Palm Pre (about the time the iPhone 3GS came out and I got sick of paying so much money for a device that didn't let me listen to pandora while doing other things), HTC Hero...and I love the Hero with it's customizability and the bit of multitasking. I love the software keyboard (I got spoiled on the iphone software keyboard and much prefer it to a hardware one) and multitouch support and I am loving the Sprint plan (saved me $20/month from AT&T which is like giving myself a $240/year raise!). And ever since I got into the smartphone market I want and love tethering...I jailbroke all my iphones to get it, I rooted the pre to get it and now I've flashed my hero to MoDaCo to get it. So far, the openness really speaks to the urge to tweak and experiment I have so Android will likely be where I stay for a while.
I'm happy with the phone but not completely satisfied. It has some issues which need to be resolved, particularly the ROM memory leak which occurs using Bluetooth. I can't use bluetooth at ll for now. The calendar issue and the mono headphone issue also needs resolving. I have not had an issue with dust under the screen (knock on wood) but that would definitely be a huge problem if it occurs.
Even with these issues this phone is the best phone I have ever owned. There are phones that are arguably better (iphone 3gs, droid) but imho this phone is the best value for the money by a long shot. I pay about $52 a month after my 25% discount. My plan is better than if I were with Verizon or ATT and paying $$100 or $70. Sprint coverage in my area is superb as well, ATT sucks. I also get to upgrade phones after 1 year at new costumer rates because of premier status so I get to enjoy this phone for now and a year from now I can get a Hero 2, Dragon, Iphone? on Sprint.
Sprint still has it's shortcomings though. I have always dealt with very courteous csr's but internal communication is really an issue with them. They all seem to know something different and particularly getting a targeted update date is impossible. Verizon on the other hand is amazing at this, within one week of the Droid and Eris launch they had many of the issues documented and disseminated the info to it's employees. There was even a "leak" so users have some idea update dates.
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/12/android-2-1-for-htc-hero-now-due-in-april/
i'm a n00b to the Android scene and my question is: does this affect the ability to update cooked ROMs here or do people here just work off 2.1 from a different phone... and does that create more hurdles than if the ROM were 'made for Hero' i.e. any unique handset dependencies, etc?
I'm in this dichotomy stage right now where I've read upteen hundred interviews, reviews, posts, comparisons, etc. of HTC Hero and Samsung Moment, and still can't decide, but am leaning to the Hero because of the excellent development that goes on here and because of Sense, even though I'm really yearning for that snappier processor, AMOLED screen, etc., I can't justify it if development is lukewarm compared to here and it seems updated ROMs for Moment are sketchy at best, in terms of getting full functionality out of the handset.
What I don't get is this... you folks here (devs, enthusiasts, etc), are constantly building new roms, but are they derivative of cupcake, or eclair? More so, despite whatever Sprint and HTC do or don't do (as it seems HTC is more concerned w/ the rollout of Desire), can I still get my 2.1 Eclair fix here, albeit original Sense, and is it mostly bug free/usable as a day phone w/o losing any *features* that I would get from a Sprint Stock Cupcake Hero?
I have a half mind to wait for a Sprint Snapdragon but no telling when that will be plus I can get a Hero for $60 now w/ free activation, and a Moment for the missus for $20 more, also no activation. That's a hard deal to beat, imo. But I find it vexing that there might never be an official Eclair update for the Hero, more so the Moment if it's incumbent upon Samsung to deliver as they have a track record of abandoning phones upon delivery.
Thanks in advance a million times for your response!
I have to act quick if I'm to get this deal, but these decisions are killing me.
if you can wait, wait for the supersonic.
otherwise it is really a matter of preference. my brother has the moment. he loves it because of the keyboard. otherwise the processor may be snappier but i can't tell a difference...
he doesn't run any roms, nothing worthwhile out there. And I am running 2.1 already thanks to our great devs.
For me it's really a matter of cost and time. I really need new phones and the time it takes to get a healthy discount on a 2 yr contract could be months from now.
The Processor in the Moment would come in most handy (I would think) in future Android updates; flash if it hits; and certain apps, etc.
But if there's not pushed updates to Moment, then it's totally dependent on the community and i don't think it's as strong as here, or rather it's in a much earlier stage...
I see there are two forums but upon initial investigation, I don't see these ROMS viable as day phones, more for testing and development
http://www.samsungmomentforum.com/rooting/?PHPSESSID=8c9ead9a3ee984137fea7bf4b21ad46d
sdx-developers.com
In any case, I don't want to deviate too far into Moment in a predominantly HTC board, which brings me back to my initial questions regarding how update cycle/process works here. Wondering what base platform devs work from, and if anyone cares about the potential 'official' 2.1 update and whether or not that changes a thing here.
Thanks in advance.
maybe this will help....
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hakujin said:
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/12/android-2-1-for-htc-hero-now-due-in-april/
i'm a n00b to the Android scene and my question is: does this affect the ability to update cooked ROMs here or do people here just work off 2.1 from a different phone... and does that create more hurdles than if the ROM were 'made for Hero' i.e. any unique handset dependencies, etc?
I'm in this dichotomy stage right now where I've read upteen hundred interviews, reviews, posts, comparisons, etc. of HTC Hero and Samsung Moment, and still can't decide, but am leaning to the Hero because of the excellent development that goes on here and because of Sense, even though I'm really yearning for that snappier processor, AMOLED screen, etc., I can't justify it if development is lukewarm compared to here and it seems updated ROMs for Moment are sketchy at best, in terms of getting full functionality out of the handset.
What I don't get is this... you folks here (devs, enthusiasts, etc), are constantly building new roms, but are they derivative of cupcake, or eclair? More so, despite whatever Sprint and HTC do or don't do (as it seems HTC is more concerned w/ the rollout of Desire), can I still get my 2.1 Eclair fix here, albeit original Sense, and is it mostly bug free/usable as a day phone w/o losing any *features* that I would get from a Sprint Stock Cupcake Hero?
I have a half mind to wait for a Sprint Snapdragon but no telling when that will be plus I can get a Hero for $60 now w/ free activation, and a Moment for the missus for $20 more, also no activation. That's a hard deal to beat, imo. But I find it vexing that there might never be an official Eclair update for the Hero, more so the Moment if it's incumbent upon Samsung to deliver as they have a track record of abandoning phones upon delivery.
Thanks in advance a million times for your response!
I have to act quick if I'm to get this deal, but these decisions are killing me.
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Personally I hated the moment, felt like I was carrying an Abrams Tank in my pocket, and its kind of ugly. But the HUGE issue I had with it was battery life. Litterally only got about 5 hours of LIGHT use. and only about 12 hours IN STAND BY! We had two seperate moments with 4 batteries and the ALL did that. Not to mention the OS feels so heavy on it and it is vanilla as possible. Now given they are supposed to release a "Moment2" that has an ASTC TV Tunner built in, but really? Do you want to carry around an antena and watch OTA TV on a 3inch screen? Come on. Ok, So it has an AMOLED screen and the Hero doesn't...bfd the Resolution is the same, you just have more colors...again do I need to bring up the 3" screen? Your not watching High Def movies on this thing.
When typing the moment can't keep up when you use the on screen key board, you really have to use the hardware keyboard even for short texts.
Onto the Hero:
We have fully working 2.1 Roms now, given they are buggy. Most of these guys will have it figured out in a week or so for a fully functional less buggy than Sprints 2.1 ROM. Personally I am still running 1.5 just because I don't see anything that 2.1 brings me that I can't live with out. And Ill be damned if im using a password to get into my exchange email everytime.
Read the article. I saw two issues.
1 - is Sweden CDMA?
2 - the Swedish release doesn't have to impact ours (US).
But then what do I know.
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A member of Swedroid received a reply from HTC Sweden with another date! They state that the Android 2.1 is expected sometime in April but this release is not set in stone.
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Samsung has great hardware, but they've historically SUCKED at providing firmware upgrades, and are infamous for hacking proprietary, undocumented extensions onto ancient firmware... then refusing to tell anyone how it works. Ask anyone who ever owned one of their Sprint PalmOS phones (SPHi300, SPHi330, SPHi500). The end result (at least with their PalmOS phones) was a phone that couldn't run most new mainstream software (because they were at least a whole version behind), but developers couldn't even write apps that took advantage of the phones' native features because they were all undocumented and incompatible with Palm's own official way of doing it.
Put another way, don't even THINK about buying any Samsung Android phone that's not already rootable and shipping with 2.1, because community-built new releases are the only upgrades they're ever likely to see. The Moment will probably get 2.1 eventually due to pressure from Google, but I really think that will be the Samsung exception rather than its new future policy.
The Cupcake ROMs are very mature and good for essentially bug-free daily use.
The Eclair ROMs are just starting (I mean, the last 2-3 days) to get there. Both of the good ones (Flipz and Danger) are still a bit buggy. Danger appears to be, at the moment, the one farther along (I think Flipz is on vacation) and might just be good enough for daily use. Definitely not quite 100% though, as it's still a Verizon ROM and missing a couple of things like Visual Voicemail.
I came frfom a Moment, let me tell you to each his own. If you prefer a hardware keyboard, and better colors, get the moment.
If you don't mind the virtual keyboard and want to be able to flash 3-4 times a week from development community, get a hero.
The Moment currently ONLY has a cooked kernel to flash that was made by someone who started at samsungmomentforum.com and moved to sdx-developers.com.
With the CL14 kernel update the battery drain issue was solved, after putting on that update I would get a day and a half on my phone with light use, it has vanilla android with no extra interface options, which could be a plus or minus on which way you look at it.
I enjoyed my moment, but was left "wanting more", so I traded it for a TP2, which has a huge development community. The TP2 left me "wanting more" because it couldn't do the things that Android could, so I traded it for a Hero and now I am completely happy.
To each his own, sir..To each his own ;]
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way too be a ****
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way too be a ****
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Wow. I was going more for pointedly funny than dickish (you'll notice that I took the time to make sure that the results were relevant to his question, as 4 of the top 5 hits are recent 2.1 threads, most -if not all- of which have a description of what is and isn't working in the first post). If I was being dickish I would have just advised him to use the search function as some others are wont to do.
edit: Pardon. 4 of the top 6.
Wait for the Supersonic. Upgrade deals will come and go, that deal doesn't even sound that good to me.... your phone has made it this far, what's a few more months (hopefully... )
You will regret it if you don't once that phone comes out.
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Wow. I was going more for pointedly funny than dickish (you'll notice that I took the time to make sure that the results were relevant to his question, as 4 of the top 5 hits are recent 2.1 threads, most -if not all- of which have a description of what is and isn't working in the first post). If I was being dickish I would have just advised him to use the search function as some others are wont to do.
edit: Pardon. 4 of the top 6.
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Made me laugh... And was helpful! (thanks for making my day)
Go for the Hero.. you will love it!
I love the people that say "wait for the supersonic". They have NO idea when it's coming out. The thing could come out in April, or it could come out in December, or it could come out any month in the middle. There's been no statement saying when the thing's coming out, and your guess is as good as mine (mine happens to be late August or September, to catch the Hero crowd wanting to upgrade).
If you like the phone you have now and want something with a snapdragon processor, then you obviously have to wait. I honestly don't see what difference a faster processor is going to make when it comes to the overall use of the phone. The 2.1 ROM's that are out now are so insanely fast that a faster processor would be overkill for the general use. It would certainly help with some of the processor intensive apps/widgets, but for general functions, I really don't think it'd make a huge difference.
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There's been no statement saying when the thing's coming out, and your guess is as good as mine (mine happens to be late August or September, to catch the Hero crowd wanting to upgrade).
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That is my thought also. And frankly, my fervent prayer. I'm due for upgrade in December, and I'm hoping the Supersonic will be fully rooted and kickin' 3G butt by then, lol!
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I love the people that say "wait for the supersonic". They have NO idea when it's coming out. The thing could come out in April, or it could come out in December, or it could come out any month in the middle. There's been no statement saying when the thing's coming out, and your guess is as good as mine (mine happens to be late August or September, to catch the Hero crowd wanting to upgrade).
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Personally, I signed a new contract when I got my Hero's. So I am stuck for another 2 years or what ever the time period is for an upgrade. I will be drooling over a supersonic, but hopefully by the time mine comes around I'll be able to get one of the dual-core 1.5 ghz snapdragon phones. Hell, I may bite the bullet on one when they do drop one on Sprint instead of waiting. I think I'll skip the current phase of 1 ghz devices though.
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Personally, I signed a new contract when I got my Hero's. So I am stuck for another 2 years or what ever the time period is for an upgrade. I will be drooling over a supersonic, but hopefully by the time mine comes around I'll be able to get one of the dual-core 1.5 ghz snapdragon phones. Hell, I may bite the bullet on one when they do drop one on Sprint instead of waiting. I think I'll skip the current phase of 1 ghz devices though.
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you're not a premium customer (premier customer? I can't remember the specific term)? I thought like 90% of Hero owners ended up in that category, simply due to the price of the plan.
Guess I'm not entirely certain, being that I'm not on a contract, and am eligible for upgrades every year (or so I'm told by my girlfriend lol)
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you're not a premium customer (premier customer? I can't remember the specific term)? I thought like 90% of Hero owners ended up in that category, simply due to the price of the plan.
Guess I'm not entirely certain, being that I'm not on a contract, and am eligible for upgrades every year (or so I'm told by my girlfriend lol)
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Individual plan of 69.99 or more, family plan of 99.99 or more, or someone who has been a customer for 10 or more years.
So, yes..most hero owners should qualify for Sprint Premier, as long as your account is in good standing.
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Individual plan of 69.99 or more, family plan of 99.99 or more, or someone who has been a customer for 10 or more years.
So, yes..most hero owners should qualify for Sprint Premier, as long as your account is in good standing.
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Yeah...see I didn't know that.
I'm on the 129.99 Unlimited plan x2 lines. I guess that qualifies me, assuming I don't drink all my money away and can't pay the bill.
I guess I will requalify around the begining of december. Good thing too, cell phones don't usually last me more than 7 months or so. They habitually end up in the toilet.
thank you so much folks! You have a been a world of help in final decision... I too feel the moment is too big, and realize samsung's lackluster handset support in updates over the years... i am definitely getting myself a hero.
funny that one or two of you mentioned battery life. I was reading a very verbose conversation on that on the moment board just yesterday between engineers but thought it was related to cooked roms. this concerns me now as wifey likes the hw keyboard of moment and she's also not a tweaker so cupcake/moment will do her just fine, even if eclair doesn't make it. She simply needs pictures, video, and mobile access to facebook for android and a decent browser as well as gmail, google calendar and such and she's golden; prettiness of gui is not a concern. But this battery problem is in the stock Sprint 1.5 Roms? She would not dig 5 hrs of battery life and I'd therefore have to waste the $35 fee in getting her over to another phone!
Say it ain't so! Does this affect all stock Moments if so?
Also... this Sprint Premier... is the reason for getting it similar to TEP i.e. upgrade options faster? What are the perks and is this a request i need to make?! More details please! I'm coming off 4 years of T-Mobile (although had sprint prior to), and am looking at the $129.99 Everything Messaging (unl. data, text, mms) - 25% monthly corp. discount so ~ $97/mo before taxes when all said and done. I would like to transfer asap as our phones are ancient; plan sucks @ 700 min (although very cheap at ~$52 before taxes/fees after discount); 2 years of contract doesn't bother me so much, but if I see the potential which happens from time to time (ETF change recently) I'll jump at breach of contract and void my contract. However, I don't mind not having a snapdragon at all. It's more important to get TX numbers (for discount and lower taxes/fees) before moving west. Frankly, I've been putting of the upgrade for far too long, invariably waiting for something better, or that next great thing. I was going to go HTC TP2 because of the excellent support from this community in the past, but w/ the announcement of win 7 and tegra and the cost of the tp2 i changed my mind.
Thanks!
As most of you guys know, Sprint announced they'll be getting the Nexus One sometime soon... (early summer) I was just wondering, if the Sprint N1 would be compatibility with the current Nexus one Roms such as Cyanogen's rom, and King's Desire rom?
Just wondering because I was thinking about switching from Tmobile, because they're data rates are too expensive for me, and my contract ends early May of this year. I might just get the HTC Evo, but then again, it's really big (I played around with my friend's HD2, didnt like the screen size, although it was really nice)
I have a Nexus and would honestly say get the Evo..It's the better phone and also better if you need to return it or have it repaired..
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As most of you guys know, Sprint announced they'll be getting the Nexus One sometime soon... (early summer) I was just wondering, if the Sprint N1 would be compatibility with the current Nexus one Roms such as Cyanogen's rom, and King's Desire rom?
Just wondering because I was thinking about switching from Tmobile, because they're data rates are too expensive for me, and my contract ends early May of this year. I might just get the HTC Evo, but then again, it's really big (I played around with my friend's HD2, didnt like the screen size, although it was really nice)
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i disagree with the above poster, i have a nexus one and this is the perfect size phone. The evo is too big. Yes if you're worried about replacing your phone for small things then do not get the nexus one, if you're only worried about replacing it after you lose it, then its not a problem, pay the $130 fee and they will ship you a new one. I don't think the custom roms will work with the cdma device but i'm new to android and am not 100% positive.
Should work
Roms should work as long as they don't have a radio image in them. If you check some of the sites (ie. Modaco using the kitchen) you have the option of installing a radio image. As long as that isn't there you shouldn't have any problems, but I could be wrong. Anyone??
Hey all,
I'm wanting to get another Android phone as I got rid of my HTC Wildfire. I'm thinking about getting the G1 as its cheap and seems as though it can perform well.
I'm looking at buying one that is locked to T-Mobile and has the newest carrier updates on. My question is can it be unlocked? and does Cyanogen mod perform well?
Thanks!
It would be worth having one now, but getting one from fresh... that would depend on how cheap you can get one and if you think you need a hard-QWERTY. The G1 is quite old... and you may be more content with adding more funds for a G2.
I recently bought a G1 for cheap, and it is great currently have it running gingerbread which works really quite well, a lot more so then i thought cyanogenmon 6 did.
I also believe that they can be unlocked quite easily as well
Thanks for the info
I'm looking at a G1 also, coming from a CDMA Moment with 2.2.2 and looking to switch to GSM. The Moment has a faster processor(?) but is not a very good at some things, like being a phone. Is the G1 a good PHONE? I can get a good ROM for the things I want but does the phone part work well?
G1 okay phone, easy to mod. if you like tinkering.
G1 is an okay phone. My partner at work uses a Blackberry, he can't hear the person at the other end without an ear piece, I don't have that issue on my G1.
I do NOT love my G1, it's bulky/heavy and I don't feel the build quality is as good as some of the other phones. The Speaker is on the back of the phone, opposite from the display - seriously who does that? Samsung for example always puts the speaker above the main screen.
The Keyboard has very small keys but it IS a 5 row keyboard, you can get good with some practice, but some of the newer phones, ex: T-Mobile Sidekick 4G has a keyboard/CPU/display that I almost can't believe how good it is, however they have the dumbest overlay I've ever seen, haha, can't have it all I guess.
The G1 is reliable, it's just not very pretty, if it's cheap, it's a deal.
Hi,
I am contemplating putting my G1 up for sale.
It is the one in my Signature.
Lemme know.
Heeter
If you don't play big games, g1 is enough, however, you cannot buy a new one now.
If I were you, I will buy another new phone.
I suggest a HTC Wildfire at least :/ g1 is maybe just too slow even for normal use if your gonna even get apps :'(
Honestly, no. Get a higher end device and you will be much happier.. I just got a HD2 and it is a huge improvement over the G1, and very worth investing in.
The G1 can't run many of the apps on market because it is too slow, including live wallpapers, angry birds rio, etc..
It depends on how much you can get if for. I got mine for US$50 used a few weeks a go. It's really slow and low on capacity but it's a great entry phone to Android for me. Learned a lot with it. It works great as a phone. And the best part is, if I brick it, I will not feel bad. Just pull the SIM and move to the next cheap phone I can find.
Just saw someone selling one for $30 on craigslist. I would definitely get that one if I haven't got this one.
I completely agree with the above statement ^^
I would love to get an G1 for a nice 2nd/back up phone since my bb 8900 curve have self rebooting problems
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was considering a droid 4 or razor as my next phone..
Dont really know much about it only the glossy adverts and such
and want to know what people think of the droid 4 who already own it.
Any descent custom roms/kernels?
battery life?
does it get hot?
official updates?
is the keyboard any good?
sound quality in phone calls/ speaker phone?
screen quality?
wish you bought something else?
- For D4 we have pretty good ICS leaks, I`m on of the latest leaks, and it`s stable and very comfortable to use.
- Battery life - good enough, better than on my Droid 3 (I saw that there is a fix for WiFi to improve the battery life, so should be even better)
- Not hot for me, but I`m not using this phone for games.
- Official update of ICS (4.0.4) is planned for Q3 2012, so should be delivered to our phones in next few monthes. I hope after ICS we will get JB.
- Keyboard is terrific and awesome. I had all Droids from Motorola and keyboard for Droid 4 is the best keyboard I`ve seen before.
- sounds quality is good, from my point of view - the same as on my Droid 3, so no issues here. With the speaker phone don`t see any issues as well.
- Screen is good, sharp enough and looks like better than screen for Droid 3 (at least in comprasion). But it`s not AMOLED...
- Since I`m using keyboard smartphones for work and I really need hardware keyboard (e-mails, messages, etc.) - Droid 4 is the best choice for me. If you don`t need keyboard then I would suggest to take a look to the Motorola Razr.
Mainly agree with MrAdvo, with a little less positiveness about the screen. I came from the Droid 2 Global (now an ancient phone) and that screen was much better. This shows when scrolling fast or in some animated games (such as Drop). But it's certainly usable.
I paid full price (to keep unlimited data) and I don't currently regret my decision! Waiting for official ICS so it can be global.
I went with the D4 over the razr and I'm glad I did. I work for vzw and constantly get customers coming in who hate the battery life on the razr. I have had no customers complaining about their droid 4.
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Any descent custom roms/kernels? - So far we're stuck with stock kernels due to the locked bootloader but if what I've seen in the dev forums is true, that will be fixable soon with kexec. Hashcode has also ported both CM9 and AOKP to the stock kernel so that should cover most people's needs. Personally I'm an AOKP fangirl, but CM9 is good too!
battery life? - I'm currently in the phase where I'm constantly tinkering with it all day even though I'm supposed to be working, and in the worst case I still had 16% left by the time I went to bed at 4AM! Currently it's 3:27AM and the battery is still at 68% I'd say that was pretty good.
does it get hot? - Not that I've noticed
official updates? - Still waiting for ICS, regular leaks, as discussed already.
is the keyboard any good? - Yes, providing you're not using it to admin linux/unix/cisco type gear as some of the more obscure punctuation such as curly brackets is not on the keyboard and has to be accessed through menus. If you're using it as a text messaging device, or for posting on social networks it's awesome, easily the nicest phone keyboard I have ever used, and this is coming from someone who has had landscape QWERTY phones since the days of the Nokia 9110
sound quality in phone calls/ speaker phone? - Seems fine to me.
screen quality? - This is the big sticking point. If you look closely at a photograph or a smooth gradient, you can see a speckly/dithering effect from the pentile screen. You have to know it's there and go looking for it, but if you're expecting the screen of a Galaxy SIII you'll be disappointed. It's still a decent screen with good brightness and contrast. Haven't tried it in direct sunlight yet though, what with me being in the UK
wish you bought something else? - Nope. Once you've decided you want a QWERTYphone, there really isn't another option right now. Thankfully this is a very good option.
One thing that's important to note, since you're in Australia, which I'm 99% certain is a GSM country, this phone will not work out of the box as the gingerbread firmware is CDMA only and locked to the Verizon network in the USA. You'll need to flash to the latest ICS leak. Idiot's guide here.
Thanx guys and girls,
Yeah I was wondering why I couldnt find this phone from aussie sellers in ebay and telco's.
So can be hacked to GSM?
Dam looked like a good phone too.
is it still a touch screen ?
DuratecPaul said:
Thanx guys and girls,
Yeah I was wondering why I couldnt find this phone from aussie sellers in ebay and telco's.
So can be hacked to GSM?
Dam looked like a good phone too.
is it still a touch screen ?
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The hardware is fully capable of both CDMA and GSM, however the firmware it shipped with does not have GSM support because Verizon are, well, they're as nice and helpful as Telstra!
Officially the Droid 4 will get world-phone functionality at the same time as the official ICS firmware drops, supposedly in Q3, but you can have it right now with one of the leaks.
Yes it's still a touchscreen. I only really warned you about the screen because quite a few people are moaning about it when compared to the Galaxy SIII. Personally I'm fine with the screen.
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The hardware is fully capable of both CDMA and GSM, however the firmware it shipped with does not have GSM support because Verizon are, well, they're as nice and helpful as Telstra!
Officially the Droid 4 will get world-phone functionality at the same time as the official ICS firmware drops, supposedly in Q3, but you can have it right now with one of the leaks.
Yes it's still a touchscreen. I only really warned you about the screen because quite a few people are moaning about it when compared to the Galaxy SIII. Personally I'm fine with the screen.
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If you plan to use the phone outside the US, and are at least a little paranoid, it might be a good idea to buy the phone prior to the ICS release and install the leak.
Note: no evidence for what follows! It's at least possible that Verizon might lock the GSM portion of the phone, as they have done on their previous pre-ICS world phones. The leaks don't have a lock, and neither does the official ICS release on the RAZR, but it might seem to be a good idea at some point. Unlocking can be very hard, you need to be a VZ customer to get it from Verizon, and on some models, particularly the Droid 2 Global, Verizon changed the codes so that the web-based vendors codes (using Moto's DB) didn't work most of the time. In addition, they can make it hard to root and impossible to revert to an earlier version (Droid 2 got a root method last week, several months after the latest update). So, may not happen, but.....
Thanx all round...
if i find the right 1 at the right price ...I will be getting one I think.
I hate onscreen keyboards ...
I wonder does swiftkeys work with the hardware keyboard ie suggest words spell correct.
DuratecPaul said:
I wonder does swiftkeys work with the hardware keyboard ie suggest words spell correct.
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No idea what swiftkeys is, but it does pop up a number of word suggestions at the bottom of the screen as I type.
As for price, I got a brand new one for US$500 which worked out at about UK£360 after import taxes. This was a lot cheaper than buying a similar device out of contract in the UK since most sellers do $1 = £1 to set UK prices even though the exchange rate is currently $1.50 = £1.
I don't know how Australian prices compare, or how much you get taxed for personal imports, but I'm sure you people get ripped off on electronic goods just as much as us Poms.
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No idea what swiftkeys is, but it does pop up a number of word suggestions at the bottom of the screen as I type.
As for price, I got a brand new one for US$500 which worked out at about UK£360 after import taxes. This was a lot cheaper than buying a similar device out of contract in the UK since most sellers do $1 = £1 to set UK prices even though the exchange rate is currently $1.50 = £1.
I don't know how Australian prices compare, or how much you get taxed for personal imports, but I'm sure you people get ripped off on electronic goods just as much as us Poms.
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Oh hell yeah we do ...in the shops... but online from USA is very cheap anything under $1000 au is tax free
UK is same I think but we have to put up with your horrific postal charges.
DuratecPaul said:
Oh hell yeah we do ...in the shops... but online from USA is very cheap anything under $1000 au is tax free
UK is same I think but we have to put up with your horrific postal charges.
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Yes, I imported my Droid 4 from USA here in Australia. Works great and no taxes because of price lower than 1000 AUD.
Hey Paul,
Send us a pm with a reasonable target price as we may be able to accommodate you.
DevicesNow said:
Hey Paul,
Send us a pm with a reasonable target price as we may be able to accommodate you.
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Very fast shipping and good communication.
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Lum_UK said:
No idea what swiftkeys is, but it does pop up a number of word suggestions at the bottom of the screen as I type.
As for price, I got a brand new one for US$500 which worked out at about UK£360 after import taxes. This was a lot cheaper than buying a similar device out of contract in the UK since most sellers do $1 = £1 to set UK prices even though the exchange rate is currently $1.50 = £1.
I don't know how Australian prices compare, or how much you get taxed for personal imports, but I'm sure you people get ripped off on electronic goods just as much as us Poms.
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$500 is good! I paid $549 from Verizon (to keep unlimited data on their plans)
I also am in the same bucket as you... tired of my Thunderbolt having issues and need to stay grandfathered. Found a sweet deal on a brand new Droid 4 out of the box. I take it even as Motorola w/ a locked bootloader, we've got tethering working on this device? (w/out a plan)
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we've got tethering working on this device? (w/out a plan)
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wireless tethering working without problems.