Since the N1's resolution is pretty much full DVD res, are there any tricks out there besides watching a non-full screen movie to minimize the filesizes? I'm using handbrake and even with 50% quality movies come out at about 1GB a piece...
Using H.264. Any tricks?
Thanks.
-Mike
You need to reduce the bits per second. I've used handbrake, but I usually use SlySoft's DVDmobile. I get excellent results with file sizes between 500-700MB.
Just get Format Factory and use the default settings for HTC. I've been using that and my file sizes come out smaller than the original and quality is excellent. This was discussed in a thread just a month or two ago.
You can try Mp4forHD that was developed by Jandre here on XDA-Devs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050
You can use the HD settings to produce an mp4 file that gallery3D can read without problem.
Thanks guys. I thought the quality setting in handbrake was VBR and would shrink the size more than it did, but I'll look into setting a hard limit.
Thanks for the heads up on those other programs to.
-Mike
The percentage encode option in Handbrake, despite being their preferred method, doesn't make any sense to me as it's too subjective based on the quality of the input file.
Alternatively, break out the calculator and work out what bitrate you need to use to get x size.
Just use the "target size" option instead. It's not "correct" but it's easy and you know what you're going to get.
You can also try WinFF if you want something really no-frills that gets the job done. It supports multithreaded encoding (pretty sure HandBrake does too). I belive the 64bit version of handbrake is noticably quicker if your hardware support it (which it will).
use DVD shrink and then convert in handbrake. Normal movie sizes are 500-600k after DVD shrink
any free software for mac that can do this?
xXJay_RXx said:
any free software for mac that can do this?
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Handbreak works on Macs too.
http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
i use handbrake at ~700-800b/s, good enough for me
I use handbreak and select "target size" for 700MB , quality is good. For music videos i do constant quality RF 23 most of the time it works well , occasional video needs extra tweaking.
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Handbreak works on Macs too.
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If I'm not ripping a DVD but want to convert a movie to MP4 with h.264 I use iSquint on the Mac and go for Optimize for TV setting.
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Handbreak works on Macs too.
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yea but the past few times i tried on mac, i really couldn't figure out how to use it. still dunno how to use it. cant find out how to rip a dvd using it
saint327 said:
Since the N1's resolution is pretty much full DVD res, are there any tricks out there besides watching a non-full screen movie to minimize the filesizes? I'm using handbrake and even with 50% quality movies come out at about 1GB a piece...
Using H.264. Any tricks?
Thanks.
-Mike
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Don't use H.264. I use anydvd to rip any dvd on the fly with dvdshrink to .iso files, then I use handbrake to make .mp4 copies for my phones. My Nexus gets files about 330mb and my Magic get movies that work perfectly at about 170mb. Adjust video output for each target device, maintaining aspect ration of the original movie.
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attn1 said:
Don't use H.264. I use anydvd to rip any dvd on the fly with dvdshrink to .iso files, then I use handbrake to make .mp4 copies for my phones. My Nexus gets files about 330mb and my Magic get movies that work perfectly at about 170mb. Adjust video output for each target device, maintaining aspect ration of the original movie.
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Good job sherlock. When you're using Handbrake, you ARE encoding to H.264. Derp.
H.264 is best since the phone has a hardware decoder for it.
I'm confused. I dl a movie online and its usually about 700mb or like 1500mb which I guess is higher quality? I think the nexus can playback 720p but I don't know how to know if I'm playing a 720p video, so what are you guys watching that you can cut them in half to 700? My ignorant assumption is that 700 is DVD quality and 1400+ is HD? I've also seen torrents that were like 6,000mb so I'm not sure what if anything about the file's quality can be determined from its size.
great info. can someone suggest a movie player?
AndroidPerson said:
I'm confused. I dl a movie online and its usually about 700mb or like 1500mb which I guess is higher quality? I think the nexus can playback 720p but I don't know how to know if I'm playing a 720p video, so what are you guys watching that you can cut them in half to 700? My ignorant assumption is that 700 is DVD quality and 1400+ is HD? I've also seen torrents that were like 6,000mb so I'm not sure what if anything about the file's quality can be determined from its size.
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The higher the filesize, the greater the resolution, video bitrate, audio channels, or audio bitrate.
Just because you have a higher filesize movie doesn't mean you necessarily have better quality. If you're watching movies using the screen on the nexus, why would you ever need to make sure it's 720p? Granted, it'd look better on an HD screen, but on the nexus 800x480 screen it's just not needed.
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i have been a big fan of dvdfab for a while.. I just bought a xoom and want to see how movies look on it,... i used dvdfab video converter used the ipad format and it looks great... just thought i would throw that out there!! people wondering what software to use.. try that.. www.dvdfab.com
Do you have a sample file?
I can confirm that DVDFab makes it incredibly easy. I also selected the iPad preset, and it works like a charm. Video looks pretty nice.
Also the encode only took twenty minutes for a 1.5 hour DVD, pretty impressive. I've experimented with handbrake, but this is far easier.
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I can confirm that DVDFab makes it incredibly easy. I also selected the iPad preset, and it works like a charm. Video looks pretty nice.
Also the encode only took twenty minutes for a 1.5 hour DVD, pretty impressive. I've experimented with handbrake, but this is far easier.
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Did you try the Bluray version? I have to use two tools for Bluray discs that do not have a single large file for the main movie but are split into individual files (like A-Team, Up, Toy Story etc.). I first have to use ClownBD to create an iso file (or if I want to rip TrueHD audio which is not supported by AVS Video Converter) and then use the the AVS Video Converter to create the mp4 file... It works but is annoying. Not "$60-for-a-new-program-annoying" though
Sorry, no, I don't have any blu-rays to test with.
I kept fudging around with the settings, and I found that with DVDFab 8 the best combo I have found is using the iPad 1080p preset, but editing the settings to set the resolution to 1280x720 instead of full 1080 with 2-pass encoding.
I figure that on a screen that is 800 pixels tall, the trade-off of a slight zoom (zooming 720 pixels up to an 800-pixel screen) is preferable to downscaling the image (1080 pixels) and a much larger file-size. I tested this with an Avatar DVD, and it looks great and plays very smoothly on the native Android video player. For a nearly 3-hour movie, 2.59 gigs isn't too bad at 720p. Granted, I'm upscaling a source of only 480p, but it still looks great.
***I wonder which produces a better result: a 480p encode from a 480p source zoomed way up to 800 pixels, or a 720p encode of a 480p source with a slight zoom up to 800 pixels.
Ideas?
Found a bonus to using DVDFab 8: it comes with a very nifty video converter that handles all the major formats. I tested it with a 720p flash video, and coverted it to mp4 perfectly.
No, I don't work for them, I just really like the product. Very useful!
I use FormatFactory 2.6 to convert all what i want. It´s easy and free
My girl friend have a nook color, We are going to travel, i have some video and want to play them on my gf's nook color, but i donot know what format nook color support, and can play them in full screen.
i google and found some people convert videos to mp4 854*480 can play them in full scream, is it true? the nook color no here I can't test, everyone can help me thanks.
Hi, use Handbrake and a profile from this thread. 100% working.
Regs,
Maciej
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My girl friend have a nook color, We are going to travel, i have some video and want to play them on my gf's nook color, but i donot know what format nook color support, and can play them in full screen.
i google and found some people convert videos to mp4 854*480 can play them in full scream, is it true? the nook color no here I can't test, everyone can help me thanks.
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I've had great results with a program called DVD Catalyst. It's just $10.00 and I've used it to has flawlessly and quickly (well, about 40 minutes per movie) convert some 90 of my DVDs for playback on my Nook Color.
Google DVD Catalyst and you'll find the site.
thanks everyone, I already convert my test video via my own software, but i do not know if can watch on nook color full screen, everyone can test it for me.
here is the video files: http://uploading.com/files/2ef1d977/nookcolor854x480.mp4
If you don't want to convert just use Moboplayer, it's free. It has options to change the ratio or stretch the screen.
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I've had great results with a program called DVD Catalyst. It's just $10.00 and I've used it to has flawlessly and quickly (well, about 40 minutes per movie) convert some 90 of my DVDs for playback on my Nook Color.
Google DVD Catalyst and you'll find the site.
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Tip of the day
Just downloaded Catalyst and ripped a DVD, with subtitles and audio.
Catalyst has built-in presets for a lot of devices, including Nook Color, so converting to mp4 was so easy.
It plays perfectly on my Nook, great quality!
also the guy who made DVD Catalyst is a great guy, I was more than happy to support him by buying it and you should do the same if you can (it's great for all mobile devices and is often updated)
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thanks everyone, I already convert my test video via my own software, but i do not know if can watch on nook color full screen, everyone can test it for me.
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He just hope someone can help test the video can watch on nook color in full screen, he not need a software.
I am sorry, I have no nook color, can any body test it.
The linked video plays fine with the stock NC Gallery player. No special player is needed and you don't even need to root the NC to play it.
Note that the NC automatically scales video to fullscreen. You do not have to encode at 854x480 to fill the screen. Upscaling video to encode is generally not recommended (larger file without better quality). Unless your source is larger than 854x480, you should encode for the NC at the same resolution as the source.
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If you don't want to convert just use Moboplayer, it's free. It has options to change the ratio or stretch the screen.
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And if you want the audio to sync use VitalPlayer Neon.
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The linked video plays fine with the stock NC Gallery player. No special player is needed and you don't even need to root the NC to play it.
Note that the NC automatically scales video to fullscreen. You do not have to encode at 854x480 to fill the screen. Upscaling video to encode is generally not recommended (larger file without better quality). Unless your source is larger than 854x480, you should encode for the NC at the same resolution as the source.
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I have an Panasonic HDC-TM700, i Record some .mts videos. can play them on nook color, I need to convert it?
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I have an Panasonic HDC-TM700, i Record some .mts videos. can play them on nook color, I need to convert it?
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probably need to convert.
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probably need to convert.
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what's the best format for nook color, when i convert .mts files
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what's the best format for nook color, when i convert .mts files
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.mp4 works the best.
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.mp4 works the best.
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I had convert my .mts files to mp4, here is the file's link: http://uploading.com/files/649m2ad4/00025.mp4/
everyone can help me test it, can it work great on nook color
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The linked video plays fine with the stock NC Gallery player. No special player is needed and you don't even need to root the NC to play it.
Note that the NC automatically scales video to fullscreen. You do not have to encode at 854x480 to fill the screen. Upscaling video to encode is generally not recommended (larger file without better quality). Unless your source is larger than 854x480, you should encode for the NC at the same resolution as the source.
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I have a video less than 854 * 480 shot by my cell phone. I want to know if I upscale my 320*240 video to 854 * 480 to play on Nook Color, does the quality will be okay? Thanks for the help!
apxf8888 said:
I have a video less than 854 * 480 shot by my cell phone. I want to know if I upscale my 320*240 video to 854 * 480 to play on Nook Color, does the quality will be okay? Thanks for the help!
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It was already mentioned by razmajazz here, but if the resolution is less than 854x480, there's no need to upscale--you'll only get a larger file-size, not a better picture. That is, unless you're working with a really great source and doing some very intensive preprocessing in AVIsynth or something AND doing a really great job of reencoding afterwards--and at these resolutions, all that work is not likely to be noticeable in the slightest. The Nook's/player's real-time upscaling should effectively be just as good, realistically (I don't yet own one).
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.. no need to upscale--you'll only get a larger file-size, not a better picture.
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Not sure about that. Agree that re-encoding to higher resolution from same 320x240 source pointless, but as long as video bit rate held constant file size should be pretty much identical.
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Not sure about that. Agree that re-encoding to higher resolution from same 320x240 source pointless, but as long as video bit rate held constant file size should be pretty much identical.
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Yes, very true. I should have said:
* @ same bit-rate, you'll get approx the same file size, but the chances of having any visual improvement over real-time upscaling @ playback, without intense effort, is approximately zero, whereas applying another level of lossy compression resulting in qualitative visual quality loss is in the range of 1 to 0 inclusive.
* @ higher bit-rate, you'll get a larger file size, and still unlikely to have any visual benefit without heavy pre-processing, and again the chances of applying another level of lossy compression resulting in qualitative visual loss is in the range of 1 to 0 inclusive.
* @ lower bit-rate, you'll have a smaller, very likely lower-quality file, with the chances of any potential benefit in picture somewhere in the range 0 to very large values of zero, and benefit of lower file size between 0 and 1 inclusive.
I think that covers it.
I know gtab can play mp4, h.264 movies, so i use some tool to convert my movies to mp4, h.264 video. It play well on my tablet. But i would like to play with higher quality, some one give me a help.
Well, convert them with a higher bitrate than you did and a keep the dvd resolution will help.
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Use handbrake to rip to a video that's 1024x[whatever height is needed to maintain aspect ratio] and make sure it's not anamorphic. An RF of 23 will produce a high quality video at a not-totally-absurd filesize
Also "some one give me a help." sounds rude to me, stick a "please" on the end
Lol also TGF made a tutorial for using handbrake. Search the forum for it
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Use handbrake to rip to a video that's 1024x[whatever height is needed to maintain aspect ratio] and make sure it's not anamorphic. An RF of 23 will produce a high quality video at a not-totally-absurd filesize
Also "some one give me a help." sounds rude to me, stick a "please" on the end
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It won't help in quality by increasing the resolution as the dvd is only 720*576 or 720*480. Plus you'll see more artifacs if the bitrate is not high enough.
So, tick with the dvd resolution.
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It won't help in quality by increasing the resolution as the dvd is only 720*576 or 720*480. Plus you'll see more artifacs if the bitrate is not high enough.
So, tick with the dvd resolution.
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The tab's screen resolution is higher than DVD res, so when playing fullscreen the Tab has to upscale the video to 1024x[height]. Handbrake does a much better job of upscaling than the Tab does, so I upscale during encode. In doing so I increase file size slightly, but I can live with that
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Well, convert them with a higher bitrate than you did and a keep the dvd resolution will help.
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i just see the resolution and bitrate on the tool, they are original dvd resolution and bitrate.
so i according to your suggestion, keep the dvd original resolution, and increase the bitrate to 2500kbps. after converting, i transfer to my gtab, but i can't find any diffirence compare with the first video.
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Use handbrake to rip to a video that's 1024x[whatever height is needed to maintain aspect ratio] and make sure it's not anamorphic. An RF of 23 will produce a high quality video at a not-totally-absurd filesize
Also "some one give me a help." sounds rude to me, stick a "please" on the end
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i am sorry. please apologize me!
i also keep original bitrate and increase bitrate. but unfortunately, i can't found any difference compare with original video, give me a help!
DVD movies is just Standard definition video, if you transfer to large bit rate, and resolution. the quality can't be changed, but the size will larger. so i suggest that you maintain the original resolution and bitrate, the effect is good, and the file is relatively small.
oh, thanks. the default settings of my tool is maintain DVD original resolution and bitrate. hooray, i don't need to do any revise.
your tool can maintain DVD original resolution and bitrate? great！i tried handbrake, but it can import my DVD! so i want to know what software did you use?
Previously i also tried handbrake, but i think it difficult to use. so i google and finally found a tool called Fox Real dvd ripper. i just use it to convert dvd to gtab. it is sample than handbrake.
I use dvd fab and it works perfect every time.
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i also tried dvd fab u mentioned. it is too expensive. and i have bought Fox Real dvd ripper, all are OK.
xillisoft has a video encoder app that leverages a gpu with CUDA. It uses your gpu to do the encoding. Its amazing fast.I encoded 5 full length movies in about 30 minutes.
It is not free though.
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What resolution and file type is best for the Nook Color? I tried one at 1028x563ish and it won't play. I have another that is like 420x800 or something like that and it plays but picture quality isn't quite as good as it could be (worse than streaming content viewed on the nook). What have you guys had work well for you? I have been using mp4 files cause they will play on my nook and my wife's iPad
The search function is your friend...there are whole discussions on this subject. To sum up...854X480 is the Max resolution for hardware based playback. There are multiple links to various handbrake presets...the one I use is set to 1k kbits.
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MoBo Player is also your friend. Works well with just about anything.
Try 512x300 (a quarter of the Nook screen) at 600 kbps with 96kbps audio. More than sufficient!
I know it's not as good as the max res the Nook supports but it allows you to put many more movies on it at the same time...
I usually use 852x480... I didn't know about the 854x480 limit - I'm not sure where I got 852 from. I use ffmpeg to rip... the most important thing is to have -vpre baseline in the options or the video may not play. Mp4 supports a ton of different options when encoding, and baseline makes sure that nothing is included that the nook can't handle.
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MoBo Player is also your friend. Works well with just about anything.
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I use handbrake and set video to 1024x576. Mobo plays this perfectly.
I realize this is beyond the max rez, but with Mobo it is gorgeous for playback.
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I use handbrake and set video to 1024x576. Mobo plays this perfectly.
I realize this is beyond the max rez, but with Mobo it is gorgeous for playback.
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Just note that your battery life will suffer considerably compared to encoding the video so that the DSP can handle decoding.
I use Cucosofts dvd ripper ultimate.this software is capable of converting to just about any format out there.I've had great success with mp4 itouch settings. Set to maximum bit rate for the best picture quality possible.Rips and converts any dvd I've thrown at it.Audio and video quality is great.
Hi all,
If all goes well, i will get my One this tuesday.
since im going on holiday short after i would like to put some movies and tv series on it to watch.
I would like to convert these movies/series to the best quality vs quantity ratio.
I could possibly leave it at full HD settings, but then the 32 GB will be full in no time.
So i can live with somewhat less quality (not to bad, i still want to enjoy the movie ).
My question is what do you guys recommend for convertion settings for video files to play back at the HTC One?
Thx!
I'd suggest using HandBrake with the iPhone 4 preset (seriously) and perhaps adjusting the resolution to match - not that 720p or 1280x720 would look any worse for wear on a 1080p panel, it'll scale up nicely and you end up with much smaller filesizes for the resulting container.
I'm sure someone will work on a new(er) preset for these newfangled 1080p screen devices but really, considering the increased size of the resulting encoded container/file (MP4 being the most preferred on smartphones but you can use MKV as well depending on your media player of choice; my recommendation is still for MX Player), there doesn't seem to be any real need to create full blown 1080p versions of material when you can encode to 720p resolution and they'll be significantly smaller while still looking fantastic on those displays.
I'd rather have 10 720p movies on a 32GB device that give me something to choose from than 1 or 2 1080p movies that take up nearly as much space, but that's just me.
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I'd rather have 10 720p movies on a 32GB device that give me something to choose from than 1 or 2 1080p movies that take up nearly as much space, but that's just me.
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exactly my point. Im using handbrake my self aswell and MX player is likely to be one of the first apps to install so i can use this info!
Thx!
Other suggestions are always welcome!