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Movies on the N1...filesizes!

Since the N1's resolution is pretty much full DVD res, are there any tricks out there besides watching a non-full screen movie to minimize the filesizes? I'm using handbrake and even with 50% quality movies come out at about 1GB a piece...
Using H.264. Any tricks?
Thanks.
-Mike

You need to reduce the bits per second. I've used handbrake, but I usually use SlySoft's DVDmobile. I get excellent results with file sizes between 500-700MB.

Just get Format Factory and use the default settings for HTC. I've been using that and my file sizes come out smaller than the original and quality is excellent. This was discussed in a thread just a month or two ago.

You can try Mp4forHD that was developed by Jandre here on XDA-Devs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050
You can use the HD settings to produce an mp4 file that gallery3D can read without problem.

Thanks guys. I thought the quality setting in handbrake was VBR and would shrink the size more than it did, but I'll look into setting a hard limit.
Thanks for the heads up on those other programs to.
-Mike

The percentage encode option in Handbrake, despite being their preferred method, doesn't make any sense to me as it's too subjective based on the quality of the input file.
Alternatively, break out the calculator and work out what bitrate you need to use to get x size.
Just use the "target size" option instead. It's not "correct" but it's easy and you know what you're going to get.
You can also try WinFF if you want something really no-frills that gets the job done. It supports multithreaded encoding (pretty sure HandBrake does too). I belive the 64bit version of handbrake is noticably quicker if your hardware support it (which it will).

use DVD shrink and then convert in handbrake. Normal movie sizes are 500-600k after DVD shrink

any free software for mac that can do this?

xXJay_RXx said:
any free software for mac that can do this?
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Handbreak works on Macs too.
http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php

i use handbrake at ~700-800b/s, good enough for me

I use handbreak and select "target size" for 700MB , quality is good. For music videos i do constant quality RF 23 most of the time it works well , occasional video needs extra tweaking.

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Handbreak works on Macs too.
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If I'm not ripping a DVD but want to convert a movie to MP4 with h.264 I use iSquint on the Mac and go for Optimize for TV setting.

everclock said:
Handbreak works on Macs too.
http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
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yea but the past few times i tried on mac, i really couldn't figure out how to use it. still dunno how to use it. cant find out how to rip a dvd using it

saint327 said:
Since the N1's resolution is pretty much full DVD res, are there any tricks out there besides watching a non-full screen movie to minimize the filesizes? I'm using handbrake and even with 50% quality movies come out at about 1GB a piece...
Using H.264. Any tricks?
Thanks.
-Mike
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Don't use H.264. I use anydvd to rip any dvd on the fly with dvdshrink to .iso files, then I use handbrake to make .mp4 copies for my phones. My Nexus gets files about 330mb and my Magic get movies that work perfectly at about 170mb. Adjust video output for each target device, maintaining aspect ration of the original movie.

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attn1 said:
Don't use H.264. I use anydvd to rip any dvd on the fly with dvdshrink to .iso files, then I use handbrake to make .mp4 copies for my phones. My Nexus gets files about 330mb and my Magic get movies that work perfectly at about 170mb. Adjust video output for each target device, maintaining aspect ration of the original movie.
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Good job sherlock. When you're using Handbrake, you ARE encoding to H.264. Derp.
H.264 is best since the phone has a hardware decoder for it.

I'm confused. I dl a movie online and its usually about 700mb or like 1500mb which I guess is higher quality? I think the nexus can playback 720p but I don't know how to know if I'm playing a 720p video, so what are you guys watching that you can cut them in half to 700? My ignorant assumption is that 700 is DVD quality and 1400+ is HD? I've also seen torrents that were like 6,000mb so I'm not sure what if anything about the file's quality can be determined from its size.

great info. can someone suggest a movie player?

AndroidPerson said:
I'm confused. I dl a movie online and its usually about 700mb or like 1500mb which I guess is higher quality? I think the nexus can playback 720p but I don't know how to know if I'm playing a 720p video, so what are you guys watching that you can cut them in half to 700? My ignorant assumption is that 700 is DVD quality and 1400+ is HD? I've also seen torrents that were like 6,000mb so I'm not sure what if anything about the file's quality can be determined from its size.
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The higher the filesize, the greater the resolution, video bitrate, audio channels, or audio bitrate.
Just because you have a higher filesize movie doesn't mean you necessarily have better quality. If you're watching movies using the screen on the nexus, why would you ever need to make sure it's 720p? Granted, it'd look better on an HD screen, but on the nexus 800x480 screen it's just not needed.

Can the Nook Color play videos encoded in 1024x600 and 2,000 kbits rate?

Now that I heard you can put Honeycomb 3.0 on the Nook Color, I am thinking of getting it today at B&N.
However, I will be using the device mainly for watching movies and I love to convert movies. I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality.
My question is: Can it play .avi files with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate super smooth on Honeycomb?

Earthbrain said:
Now that I heard you can put Honeycomb 3.0 on the Nook Color, I am thinking of getting it today at B&N.
However, I will be using the device mainly for watching movies and I love to convert movies. I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality.
My question is: Can it play .avi files with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate super smooth on Honeycomb?
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Looking at the Honeycomb thread:
Doesn't work:
-Sound (sadly! Despite my efforts the last hours I didn't get it working properly yet)
-DSP e.g. no hardware video decoding
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So that would seem to be a significant barrier to your plan ;-)!
In the basic 2.1, the recommendation is for MP4 (H.264) at 1,100 kbps. I recently watched Inception at that setting and it was perfect for the Nook Color.
Check out this thread regarding Handbrake settings for the Nook Color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165

for any kind of hi-res content, you'll want to use hardware accelerated playback. Unfortunately, the chip in the nook only supports a certain video codec and resolution. h.264 basic profile and a max of 800x480. 1100 kbps looks pretty good.
Any other codec or higher resolution will rely on the software renderer, and it will be very choppy.
I created a nook color preset for handbrake you might find helpful. It will convert your 720p movies to the highest quality the nook supports.

saeba said:
Check out this thread regarding Handbrake settings for the Nook Color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165
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You added the link to my thread while I was replying to this one.

MattZTexasu said:
You added the link to my thread while I was replying to this one.
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Yes, I went back and looked up your thread since I successfully used your presets and wanted to say thanks. They worked great and the results made a long flight from Denver to Orlando very enjoyable !

MattZTexasu said:
for any kind of hi-res content, you'll want to use hardware accelerated playback. Unfortunately, the chip in the nook only supports a certain video codec and resolution. h.264 basic profile and a max of 800x480. 1100 kbps looks pretty good.
Any other codec or higher resolution will rely on the software renderer, and it will be very choppy.
I created a nook color preset for handbrake you might find helpful. It will convert your 720p movies to the highest quality the nook supports.
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You guys just burst my bubble. If the max resolution that it can play is only 800x480, then I guess I will not be buying the Nook Color. Even my HD2 can play mpg4 file that is encoded in 800x480 with 2,000 kbps smooth as butter without problem. If the NC cannot play 1024x600 with 2,000 kbps, then what is the use?
I guess I will have to wait for the Xoom to come out.

800x480 looks great. The nook scales it up to 1024x600, and the pixel density is high enough that you see no pixels. It looks very smooth.

You do realize that the hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon processor. While we only have an 800mhz stock that can be overclocked to something equivalent. Why would you expect it to do better than the hd2? I would say they would be the same. But if the difference is worth the extra $350 premium then go for it. 854x480 at 1100kbps looks amazing on the nook.

The biggest dissapointment with my Nook is the video playback. Its not horrendous on eclair, but I have absolutely no luck with it on these froyo builds. Probably going to go back to 2.1 soon just so I can at least view some videos again.

tangomonky said:
The biggest dissapointment with my Nook is the video playback. Its not horrendous on eclair, but I have absolutely no luck with it on these froyo builds. Probably going to go back to 2.1 soon just so I can at least view some videos again.
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There's no hardware video decoding on Froyo yet.

Mikroft said:
You do realize that the hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon processor. While we only have an 800mhz stock that can be overclocked to something equivalent. Why would you expect it to do better than the hd2? I would say they would be the same. But if the difference is worth the extra $350 premium then go for it. 854x480 at 1100kbps looks amazing on the nook.
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I never thought of owning the Nook Color until I heard about being able to put Honeycomb on it. I prematurely got excited and thought that it can do good video playback since my HD2 is excellent at playing 800x480 file at 2,000 kbps encoding. I knew that it can be overclocked to become more powerful. If it can only do 854x480 at 1100 kbps then it is a big disappointment. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If 854x480 at 1100 kbps looks good to you, it may not look good to me because of possible pixelation. I want a device that can play full screen resolution with high bit rate. I know that it would require bigger memory card/bigger storage space and slightly consume more power but that is what I am willing to sacrifice.
Well, I guess I have to get either the Xoom or the G-Slate. I don't mind paying extra for it. Just put in some extra work time and I will get a device that I will be happy with.
I love gadgets and love to tinker with them and that is why I enjoy putting all kinds of available OS onto my HD2. I was just about buy the NC just to tinker with it but I guess I will wait until the great people at XDA can somehow get hardware video acceleration on the NC to be able to play videos at higher settings.
Thanks for all the info about the nook's video capability. It was very informative.

DSP support?
What are the chance the DSP will get supported in Froyo/Honeycomb?
So even with hardware acceleration we only get [email protected]
Mike

Video quality
Any idea if this would work better if the nook was oc'd to 1.1, I guess once the dsp is fixed maybe that and a 1.1 cpu will work.

While i do lov to play 720p videos on my captivate (its screens is 800x480) it is down scaling those videos... the main reason i do 720p is because thats what tubemate will let me download them as and still work..
That being said he 480p that the NC can so is still a very good picture.. Normal CTR TV's are only 480i dvd's are at 480p and they still look good on my 42" 1080p tv.. not as good as blu-ray but still good.. and thats stretched to 42" were talking about 7"
1080p 42in= 52.45 DPI
1680x1050 20in monitor= 99.06 DPI
NC running 800x480 at 7inch= 133.28 DPI
NC running 1024x600 at 7inch= 169.55 DPI
Now.. looking at those numbers.. so you REALLY need to run at 1024x600? even at the 800x480 your getting less pixelation then you do on a 42inch 1080p tv.. yes the NC is held ALOT closer.. but even so.. its still giving you DVD quiality picture in your hand on a 7inch screen..

The video playback is definitely disappointing. It sucks not being able to just download a video and just watch it.

I'm getting a bit lost from the conflicting opinions. I'm a lazy and VERY not fussy video viewer. My main use of my NC is to watch videos that were originally made for an iPhone.
Bottom line... Now that sound is working in honeycomb to the NC. am I going to be able to watch my simple iphone type videos on my NC if I take it up to honeycomb? Remember. I'm not at all fussy about quality as long as it isn't too terribly jerky.
Sent from my LogicPD Zoom2 using XDA App

rpharvey said:
I'm getting a bit lost from the conflicting opinions. I'm a lazy and VERY not fussy video viewer. My main use of my NC is to watch videos that were originally made for an iPhone.
Bottom line... Now that sound is working in honeycomb to the NC. am I going to be able to watch my simple iphone type videos on my NC if I take it up to honeycomb? Remember. I'm not at all fussy about quality as long as it isn't too terribly jerky.
Sent from my LogicPD Zoom2 using XDA App
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From what i understand (and thats not much =) currently honeycomb still has NO hardware acceleration for video.. nither does froyo so the best video playing on a NC you can get is currently running a rooted stock rom.. encoded at 800x480 or below.. the iphone 3gs and older all have a screen size of 480x320 so they SHOULD work as long as they were encoded properly (right codec and such)

Although I understand the excitement, this seems like a very premature discussion. Despite the repeated statement that honeycomb is available on the NC, out is in fact not. What you are seeing is actually an SDK build. Software Developers Kit. For development. And the first SDK at that. You are essentially seeing an emulator running on the nook screen.
Before everyone goes nuts I know that is not technically correct, but it is as correct as saying we are running full honeycomb.
After an AOSP build is released we will see a more functional version and eventually probably see better integration with the video hardware. And for my final rain on this parade...I am a professional video content creator. And if you think you are able to see the difference between DVD quality and 2100 stream HD on a 4.3 inch screen, you are mistaken. Or have vision above that of mortal men.
For the record I owned an HD2, now use the Evo and also own a NookColor.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

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...I am a professional video content creator. And if you think you are able to see the difference between DVD quality and 2100 stream HD on a 4.3 inch screen, you are mistaken. Or have vision above that of mortal men.
For the record I owned an HD2, now use the Evo and also own a NookColor.
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Ok i'm confused by this part...
No one was really talking about the 4.3 inch screen..
ANYWAYS the dvd quality vs 2100 stream HD by that do you mean a 2100/kbps steam?
if thats the case then its not a surprise seeing as 2100/kbps is enough to stream at 480p.... which is dvd quality

Darkomen64 said:
Ok i'm confused by this part...
No one was really talking about the 4.3 inch screen..
ANYWAYS the dvd quality vs 2100 stream HD by that do you mean a 2100/kbps steam?
if thats the case then its not a surprise seeing as 2100/kbps is enough to stream at 480p.... which is dvd quality
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OP's original question was about "I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality."
Later after some responses he comments he gets better resolution on his HD2 (that is a 4.3" screen) so he will skip the nook.
You still point out a misunderstanding I had now that I go back which is that he is starting with a 720p source but ending up 1024x600. But really this is just makes my point stronger because then we are looking at an even smaller difference in the resolution.

Play videos on Nook Color in full screen

My girl friend have a nook color, We are going to travel, i have some video and want to play them on my gf's nook color, but i donot know what format nook color support, and can play them in full screen.
i google and found some people convert videos to mp4 854*480 can play them in full scream, is it true? the nook color no here I can't test, everyone can help me thanks.

Hi, use Handbrake and a profile from this thread. 100% working.
Regs,
Maciej

apxf8888 said:
My girl friend have a nook color, We are going to travel, i have some video and want to play them on my gf's nook color, but i donot know what format nook color support, and can play them in full screen.
i google and found some people convert videos to mp4 854*480 can play them in full scream, is it true? the nook color no here I can't test, everyone can help me thanks.
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I've had great results with a program called DVD Catalyst. It's just $10.00 and I've used it to has flawlessly and quickly (well, about 40 minutes per movie) convert some 90 of my DVDs for playback on my Nook Color.
Google DVD Catalyst and you'll find the site.

thanks everyone, I already convert my test video via my own software, but i do not know if can watch on nook color full screen, everyone can test it for me.
here is the video files: http://uploading.com/files/2ef1d977/nookcolor854x480.mp4

If you don't want to convert just use Moboplayer, it's free. It has options to change the ratio or stretch the screen.

dsf3g said:
I've had great results with a program called DVD Catalyst. It's just $10.00 and I've used it to has flawlessly and quickly (well, about 40 minutes per movie) convert some 90 of my DVDs for playback on my Nook Color.
Google DVD Catalyst and you'll find the site.
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Tip of the day
Just downloaded Catalyst and ripped a DVD, with subtitles and audio.
Catalyst has built-in presets for a lot of devices, including Nook Color, so converting to mp4 was so easy.
It plays perfectly on my Nook, great quality!

also the guy who made DVD Catalyst is a great guy, I was more than happy to support him by buying it and you should do the same if you can (it's great for all mobile devices and is often updated)

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thanks everyone, I already convert my test video via my own software, but i do not know if can watch on nook color full screen, everyone can test it for me.
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He just hope someone can help test the video can watch on nook color in full screen, he not need a software.
I am sorry, I have no nook color, can any body test it.

The linked video plays fine with the stock NC Gallery player. No special player is needed and you don't even need to root the NC to play it.
Note that the NC automatically scales video to fullscreen. You do not have to encode at 854x480 to fill the screen. Upscaling video to encode is generally not recommended (larger file without better quality). Unless your source is larger than 854x480, you should encode for the NC at the same resolution as the source.

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If you don't want to convert just use Moboplayer, it's free. It has options to change the ratio or stretch the screen.
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And if you want the audio to sync use VitalPlayer Neon.

razmajazz said:
The linked video plays fine with the stock NC Gallery player. No special player is needed and you don't even need to root the NC to play it.
Note that the NC automatically scales video to fullscreen. You do not have to encode at 854x480 to fill the screen. Upscaling video to encode is generally not recommended (larger file without better quality). Unless your source is larger than 854x480, you should encode for the NC at the same resolution as the source.
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I have an Panasonic HDC-TM700, i Record some .mts videos. can play them on nook color, I need to convert it?

apxf8888 said:
I have an Panasonic HDC-TM700, i Record some .mts videos. can play them on nook color, I need to convert it?
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probably need to convert.

chisleu said:
probably need to convert.
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what's the best format for nook color, when i convert .mts files

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what's the best format for nook color, when i convert .mts files
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.mp4 works the best.

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.mp4 works the best.
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I had convert my .mts files to mp4, here is the file's link: http://uploading.com/files/649m2ad4/00025.mp4/
everyone can help me test it, can it work great on nook color

razmajazz said:
The linked video plays fine with the stock NC Gallery player. No special player is needed and you don't even need to root the NC to play it.
Note that the NC automatically scales video to fullscreen. You do not have to encode at 854x480 to fill the screen. Upscaling video to encode is generally not recommended (larger file without better quality). Unless your source is larger than 854x480, you should encode for the NC at the same resolution as the source.
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I have a video less than 854 * 480 shot by my cell phone. I want to know if I upscale my 320*240 video to 854 * 480 to play on Nook Color, does the quality will be okay? Thanks for the help!

apxf8888 said:
I have a video less than 854 * 480 shot by my cell phone. I want to know if I upscale my 320*240 video to 854 * 480 to play on Nook Color, does the quality will be okay? Thanks for the help!
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It was already mentioned by razmajazz here, but if the resolution is less than 854x480, there's no need to upscale--you'll only get a larger file-size, not a better picture. That is, unless you're working with a really great source and doing some very intensive preprocessing in AVIsynth or something AND doing a really great job of reencoding afterwards--and at these resolutions, all that work is not likely to be noticeable in the slightest. The Nook's/player's real-time upscaling should effectively be just as good, realistically (I don't yet own one).

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Not sure about that. Agree that re-encoding to higher resolution from same 320x240 source pointless, but as long as video bit rate held constant file size should be pretty much identical.

MedLine said:
Not sure about that. Agree that re-encoding to higher resolution from same 320x240 source pointless, but as long as video bit rate held constant file size should be pretty much identical.
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Yes, very true. I should have said:
* @ same bit-rate, you'll get approx the same file size, but the chances of having any visual improvement over real-time upscaling @ playback, without intense effort, is approximately zero, whereas applying another level of lossy compression resulting in qualitative visual quality loss is in the range of 1 to 0 inclusive.
* @ higher bit-rate, you'll get a larger file size, and still unlikely to have any visual benefit without heavy pre-processing, and again the chances of applying another level of lossy compression resulting in qualitative visual loss is in the range of 1 to 0 inclusive.
* @ lower bit-rate, you'll have a smaller, very likely lower-quality file, with the chances of any potential benefit in picture somewhere in the range 0 to very large values of zero, and benefit of lower file size between 0 and 1 inclusive.
I think that covers it.

Resolution for Ripping DVDs for Nook

What resolution and file type is best for the Nook Color? I tried one at 1028x563ish and it won't play. I have another that is like 420x800 or something like that and it plays but picture quality isn't quite as good as it could be (worse than streaming content viewed on the nook). What have you guys had work well for you? I have been using mp4 files cause they will play on my nook and my wife's iPad

The search function is your friend...there are whole discussions on this subject. To sum up...854X480 is the Max resolution for hardware based playback. There are multiple links to various handbrake presets...the one I use is set to 1k kbits.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App

MoBo Player is also your friend. Works well with just about anything.

Try 512x300 (a quarter of the Nook screen) at 600 kbps with 96kbps audio. More than sufficient!
I know it's not as good as the max res the Nook supports but it allows you to put many more movies on it at the same time...

I usually use 852x480... I didn't know about the 854x480 limit - I'm not sure where I got 852 from. I use ffmpeg to rip... the most important thing is to have -vpre baseline in the options or the video may not play. Mp4 supports a ton of different options when encoding, and baseline makes sure that nothing is included that the nook can't handle.

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I use handbrake and set video to 1024x576. Mobo plays this perfectly.
I realize this is beyond the max rez, but with Mobo it is gorgeous for playback.

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I use handbrake and set video to 1024x576. Mobo plays this perfectly.
I realize this is beyond the max rez, but with Mobo it is gorgeous for playback.
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Just note that your battery life will suffer considerably compared to encoding the video so that the DSP can handle decoding.

I use Cucosofts dvd ripper ultimate.this software is capable of converting to just about any format out there.I've had great success with mp4 itouch settings. Set to maximum bit rate for the best picture quality possible.Rips and converts any dvd I've thrown at it.Audio and video quality is great.

[Q] Best movie/serie settings HTC ONE

Hi all,
If all goes well, i will get my One this tuesday.
since im going on holiday short after i would like to put some movies and tv series on it to watch.
I would like to convert these movies/series to the best quality vs quantity ratio.
I could possibly leave it at full HD settings, but then the 32 GB will be full in no time.
So i can live with somewhat less quality (not to bad, i still want to enjoy the movie ).
My question is what do you guys recommend for convertion settings for video files to play back at the HTC One?
Thx!

I'd suggest using HandBrake with the iPhone 4 preset (seriously) and perhaps adjusting the resolution to match - not that 720p or 1280x720 would look any worse for wear on a 1080p panel, it'll scale up nicely and you end up with much smaller filesizes for the resulting container.
I'm sure someone will work on a new(er) preset for these newfangled 1080p screen devices but really, considering the increased size of the resulting encoded container/file (MP4 being the most preferred on smartphones but you can use MKV as well depending on your media player of choice; my recommendation is still for MX Player), there doesn't seem to be any real need to create full blown 1080p versions of material when you can encode to 720p resolution and they'll be significantly smaller while still looking fantastic on those displays.
I'd rather have 10 720p movies on a 32GB device that give me something to choose from than 1 or 2 1080p movies that take up nearly as much space, but that's just me.

br0adband said:
I'd rather have 10 720p movies on a 32GB device that give me something to choose from than 1 or 2 1080p movies that take up nearly as much space, but that's just me.
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exactly my point. Im using handbrake my self aswell and MX player is likely to be one of the first apps to install so i can use this info!
Thx!
Other suggestions are always welcome!