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Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"
teddypepper52 said:
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
Brandito said:
rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.
Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.
I'm still with the stock froyo and about to upgrade.
But if i upgrade to CyanogenMod-6.1
1. How i can make sure that i keep all my applications and settings
2. how to understand if i need to update the radio as well
3. is there a point to upgrade now when gingerbread is just behind the corner and how long usually takes Cyanogen to incorporate the new build in his mod?
No body knows when Gingerbread will really be available for N1.
Just nandroid backup what you have now and flash back when GB is here.
Do a Nandroid backup & Titanium backup.
You can see your radio build at "settings-about phone-baseband version". The current radio is 5.08.00.04 or korean. Look at the android developement section.
Imo, you better try cm 6.1 first. Because, as i know of, there are no major change in gingerbread. But, who knows?
Hope it helps
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william tanaya said:
Do a Nandroid backup & Titanium backup.
You can see your radio build at "settings-about phone-baseband version". The current radio is 5.08.00.04 or korean. Look at the android developement section.
Imo, you better try cm 6.1 first. Because, as i know of, there are no major change in gingerbread. But, who knows?
Hope it helps
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there are huge underlying changes in gingerbread....
also latest stock radio is 4.06. the next official radio update is not out yet. 4.06 is fine with cyan. personally, seeing as gingerbread is probably gonna be hitting in the next few days (hopefully) i would wait
Thank you all!
What's the difference between Nandroid backup & Titanium backup?
How long took Cyanogen to implement 2.2 froyo in his rom?
If it's not too much i guess i flash now and then just re-flash with the gingerbread based cyanogen rom?
Fking1 said:
Thank you all!
What's the difference between Nandroid backup & Titanium backup?
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A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your rom. if you were to restore a nandroid, your phone will be exactly as it was when you did the backup, as if you took a snapshot in time. This allows you to try out different roms, or flash changes to your rom with low risk, as you can always revert.
A titanium backup backs your apps and data to your SD card, it allows you to move between roms and take your apps, the data in your apps, and your settings with you.
How long took Cyanogen to implement 2.2 froyo in his rom?
If it's not too much i guess i flash now and then just re-flash with the gingerbread based cyanogen rom?
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If it is anything like last time, google will push the OTA update, then drop the source code a few weeks later, give the Cyanogenmod team a few weeks to put out a release candidate. I'd expect you should be able to just flash the upgrade directly.
Btw, the Titanium back-up doesn't really seem to back up everything
For example i have to re-configure all my settings, desktops, re-set my accounts and it also has missed few applications.
Is that normal or i'm missing something?
other than that, i'm now happy with cyanogenmod 6.1, it's pretty cool
Are you backing up apps only or apps + user's data ect...
I heard it's better to just restore apps and re-enter data as
that work better. I don't know I've always had good luck restoring
users data.
there are a ton of awesome things in cyanogen 6.1 like HD video recording and FM radio. definitley worth the upgrade now, especially since it will be at least a month after gingerbread is released before cyan team gets something out. maybe longer cause the source isnt necessarily released the same day as the ROM. with froyo i think it was 1-2 months after release till cyan came out.
sorry i guess i didnt understand what you were saying about gingerbread, but if you want a stock gingerbread rom then it should be out within a few days (hopefully)
however, the source and cm gingerbread probably wont be out for a month till then.
basically, if you want root, you should go ahead and go for it now just in case 2.3 makes it harder to root without unlocking the bootloader. a cm based gingerbread wont be out for a while. you can always upgrade to a gingerbread cm later anyway.
if you want to stay stock and see if you like gingerbread then just wait lol
I'm with cyanogen now and happier than ever.
It's soo good that i can gladly wait till they implement rom with gingerbread as well.
p.s.
Gingerbread seems to be kinda ugly anyway
Fking1 said:
I'm with cyanogen now and happier than ever.
It's soo good that i can gladly wait till they implement rom with gingerbread as well.
p.s.
Gingerbread seems to be kinda ugly anyway
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At least with root, when you do get gingerbread you can change the colour scheme and theme it anyway
flybyme said:
there are huge underlying changes in gingerbread....
also latest stock radio is 4.06. the next official radio update is not out yet. 4.06 is fine with cyan. personally, seeing as gingerbread is probably gonna be hitting in the next few days (hopefully) i would wait
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True, there are quite a lot of changes 'under the hood'.
4.06 is only still the latest official radio in the US. The ones sold in the rest of the world get 5.x-radios in their updates and have so since FRF91. They are also hardware-identical. As you say though, any radio from 4.06 and onwards is CM6-compatible.
Even though I hope Gingerbread will be released in a couple of days, perhaps when the Nexus S is released, but it could just as well take more time than that. CM 6.1 is a good way to enjoy the time until that happens.
Hi,
i am new to Nexus One Android Development and i am a bit confused.
There are so many Gingerbread ROMs out there and i cannot decide.
I firstly wanted to install MoDaCos Sense Build but that is buggy for me - so now i want Gingerbread on my N1.
Unfortunately there are CM7 based/stock ones/google AOSP's/GRI40s/2.3.2's/2.2.3's/pure google mods/OFIICIALS/Devs onlys etc. - Versions!
Can anyone be so kind to filtrate that a bit?
This shouldn't be a "Best GB-BUILD"-Thread - I just want a clean and stable Gingerbread running with my purchased launcherpro plus!
I don't want it bleading edge, but fast and stable!
Which one of the thousands out there should i run on my N1?
Hi bunnahabhain,
I have tried various gingerbread roms, most have had some annoying bugs like hspda freezing, random FCs. The one that works the best for me is the CM7 RC2 which is the equivalent of Gingerbread 2.3.3. It is yet to bug out on me and it runs very smooth. In fact i havent had to restart the phone since I installed the rom. Surprisingly it also takes less space on the phone then most roms I've tried.
Hope this helps. It is bleeding edge but it is very smooth and hasn't been buggy at all for me.
I am using the stock gignerbread, with launcher pro plus/setcpu and automatic task killer.
It runs very well, no crashes, no bugs, it's fast, I sugest you do the same.
Add a poll to thread and list available options for people to vote?
DONE - 8 by number
just chose the most favorite ones
Stock/Official/Vanilla are the same. Just what the names suggest really.
Cyanogenmod is by far the most widely used custom ROM. Many of the others are based off this, with various alterations being made to them. Close to Stock appearance but feature filled and very fast. Version 7 is in development now and two of the polled ROMS are in fact from this development.
There have been two Release Candidates which are considered 'stable', and there are ongoing 'Nightly' builds, (experimental), but which are really just a daily evolution of the development. As it stands the latest Nightly builds are very stable, very fast and well worth trying.
I am on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396
Modified GRI40 (2.3.3 Gingerbread) ROM*
Rooted, De-odexed, Busybox, Apps2SD, Cache2SD, ZipAligned, Disabled Stock Recovery
THE BEST ROOM EVER ! No WONK !
m_mitashki said:
I am on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396
Modified GRI40 (2.3.3 Gingerbread) ROM*
Rooted, De-odexed, Busybox, Apps2SD, Cache2SD, ZipAligned, Disabled Stock Recovery
THE BEST ROOM EVER ! No WONK !
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Trackball wake?
rzak said:
Trackball wake?
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No trackball wake on any Gingerbread ROMs derived from stock. No modification has been found to enable it.
On the other hand, they don't suffer from wonks like CM7 and any CM7-based ROM.
I was loving stock gingerbread but switched over to cm7 after missing trackball wake
MIUI gets Gingerbread on Friday, that will be my choice.
I am on pure googlemod now!
But don't think just that i chose a ROM that nobody voted for would leave this POLL ad absurdum
It seems that the base of that ROM is CM7-NIGHTLY, which is the thing to go for if you want more speed in the ROM with a custom kernel (otherwise no camera).
Because i wanted the stock GB style i firstly chose GEOs stock deodexed one, but switched after i got the mentioned camera probs.
Now, with redstars custom kernel it is the fastest ROM i have ever used on my N1 (42 Mflops in Linpack)
Unfortunately it is still miles away from this insane ROM for the HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
You can't imagine how fast and stable that ROM is, really!
Since it is open source the N1 DEVs could look into the code couldn't they?
sense or nothing
I am on the Geo build but I am waiting for a Sense UI gingerbread release. I am following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995445 but hoping Evil D can bring his magic to a GingerSense build
I've been using CM7 RC 2 after having been using enom's roms for froyo. It is pretty damn stable and lets you use trackball wake which lots of gingerbread roms don't support.
Is there a stock eclair rom for the G1? Stock as in no themes applied, no configurations, but rooted though.
I want to stay eclair and stock as possible.
Thanks
unless you count CM roms as "stock" its pretty much stock if you dont mess with CM settings.... and its smooth as heck... here is the link http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...magic-mean-lean-pastry-machine-v508-06192010/
eclair was never officially released for the dream/sapphire platform.
Cyanogen (as indicated) did make a working port.. the problem was there was a bug that caused yaffs problems in CM5.0.8, as well as a text display bug.
Thus why when I made the 2708+ port of cm5.0.8 I included some fixes:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11435-old-stable-cm-508-2708-port/
if you don't have the new radio 2708+ radio try flashing the port above followed by the ebi0 port of the kernel at .. I think that will work but I've not tested it :/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11565574&postcount=670
^^Listen to him...I've been away from the G1 scene for a while....since the G2 came out to be precise....
Sent from my HTC Vision
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Thus why when I made the 2708+ port of cm5.0.8 I included some fixes:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11435-old-stable-cm-508-2708-port/
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This gave me a nice increase in speed and bit more battery life after upgrading and using the 2708+ port of cm5.0.8.
Have yet to find a gingerbread rom worth permanent daily use the closest in my opinion was firerats magpie but for some odd reason i cant get Gapps working right for it when flashed(terminal emulator is always missing)
which GingerBread Or Froyo Rom do yall think is the most customizable and stable?
TBH, I think all ROMs are about the same as far as customization and stability. (this is just my own opinion)
Now it come down to what you would like best between GB, Froyo, etc... That is different. Currently I like the Froyo build ROM. It seem to be running fast (for me). I didn't even bother with flashing the GAPPS, after I flashed the ROM I just went into the market and download the google apps that I neeeded (IE: GMail, Google+). Since I don't use all the google apps.
Don't know what you meant on the Terminal Emmulator. I always have it in all the ROM I flashed.
Currently I am using NameLessFroyo ROM (see my sig for ROM link) as of yesterday for my daily use.
Personally FBL is the best to me. I have it Metamorphed to look like Gingerbread, Sense3.0 Font, apps to EXT,I use Zeam launcher *Can't install my LP Plus since LP is the system launcher*.
A good GB rom is dw9009 *or somthing like that* His ROM is 100% pure CM7 Just like you'd get on a offical ROM. Then Sisterchick made a Barebones version of it called DietCm7. It just saves a lot of space, and runs on the phone it's self and not the Swap.
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