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[Q] 2.2 Roms in a nutshell

Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?

Just want to say:
NFX-Hero 2.2.1 is just the version number. It is still based on HTC Sense 2.1.
There is currently no Sense 2.2 port for the Hero.
As for the stable kernel, I've heard good things about this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774
specifically [email protected] 09/14/2010, people refer to it as "#14 kernel"

teddypepper52 said:
Ok, i've been absent from the forums for some time and have been trying to play catch up... If someone who has been keeping up would just help me get a few things straight it would be awesome.
please just put the number and if its correct or the answer or w.e.
What I think I know:
1. CyanogenMod- Established dev who releases nightly updates (CM6?) to his tweaked build of rooted mostly ASOP 2.2, which recently (thanks to a new kernal?) began working on our CDMA Hero’s.
Cyan is the almighty grand pubba of AOSP and was one of there first to release roms in the mainer we see them now. He does not do everything and all roms as he has allot of help from other devs, for us its Darch who maintains the Heroc version of cyanogen (sorry if I forgot some of you other devs)
2. Most 2.2 ROMs are based off of one of the CM6 nightlies, then customized with themes and tweaks
All of the roms you see for the heros here that are AOSP based com from darch's and then cyans repo period, nightlies are built roms while we theme built roms roms deving is done from source and can be taken from different time and snap shots so nightly means nothing then.
3. “CyanogenMod-6 for Hero CDMA - V6.0.0 (09/18/2010)” is one of these, and has been tweaked minimally, and is considered a stable build as far as CM6 goes
The stable build of cm6.0 is from the combined deving of cyan, darch and alot of other people to bring the best of wheat works and leave out what doesn't. Nightlies usually are adding what seems to work but is not always guarenteed
4. “FroYo 2.2 – CM6- Vanilla” is basically same as above, just complied from a differently “nightly”, while “Extremely Blue” and “BlackMod” are the same, just themed
Black mod is a theme, extreme blue is a themed rom compiled from cyan/drach's source vinilla is a terms used to describe a stock rom which is what cm6.00 stable and anyhting else that comes from the repo.
5. The main (only?) NON–CM6 based options for 2.2 are…
a. asopMod v.03m = which is a very ASOP build, includes OC
b. NFX-Hero 2.2.1.update1 = slimed down ASOP, includes OC and JIT option
I'll go ape **** on this but asopMod v.03m is from cyan's source ino at first he tried to make it seem like he compiled from AOSP source but the fact is he uses cyans like almost everone else and if you check his thread now he given the props the the cyan team as he should have at first.... NFX-her is a sense based rom from android 2.1
Questions:
6. If I want the CM6 nightly updates, is there an updater app in any of these ROMS’s, like in Fresh Hero 2.4 (what I’m used to), or do I have to pull an update.zip from somewhere (or something)?
Not yet but that would be nice nightlies are not considered stable and there for i dont think theyll be added to an updater like cm updater or fresh updater but when we start seeing more stable builds you'll see the updater used, cm updater is on cm6 right now just nothing to update
7. Do some phones work with JIT enabled, and others don’t? and if so is there a way to tell without just trying
All phones should work with JIT (Just in Time) dalvik compiler, whether they run betters is a different story but I have never had issues
8. If I'm set on 2.2 should I check out any other ROMs than those I mentioned
For sense I like fresh as he seems to be the best sense dev (imo) around here for AOSP you go with the grand master Cyan and his cm6 (for the hero) there are some other devs out there that make roms for other phones but most of them still use Cyan's repo.
9. Is there a standout (stable) kernal right now?
Yes Decadence
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if anyones see's an error in what i posted please correct me.

Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.

unCoRrUpTeD said:
Any froyo rom is going to be based off of CM6. The nightlies are built every night from any changes made that day. They are considered beta, however most will find no issues at all. If you flash CM6 the Jit setting is a quick change and will not screw up the phone. You just go into setting>cyanogenmod setttings>performance settings and check or uncheck jit and reboot. There is a ROM Manager app in CM6, but you have to install clockwork recovery so I am not sure what will show up in the ROMs option or what else it does because I do not want to install clockworks. As mentioned a lot are using #14.
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not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.

Brandito said:
not a lot shows up in the downloads section for rom manager on the hero. there's 4 selections, and none of them include cm6. it's mostly useless in my experience.
hopefully they update the downloads list soon.
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Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

ASimmons said:
Actually i was referring to cm updater which is similar to the fresh updater... when we see more stables from cm6 and up it'll start showing some it that. I personally don't care for rom manager.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.

Brandito said:
rom manager could use some work to make it a bit more useful. i like it for queuing up roms to flash and making things a bit more automated, however i'm not sure it clears the dalvik cache when it does its thing so i generally have to do it myself anyways.
i'll have to check out fresh updater. i have cm updater, installed from the market, does it actually come with cm6 now? i never saw it when i flashed the 9/18 and already had it installed when i clean flashed the latest nightlies.
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Well fresh updater is pretty much the same as cm updater but its only for fresh roms. cm updater might not be part of cm6 I can't, it probably isnt. I actually would like it to be as with cm5 and below it also had themes in it. hopefully itll come back when theres more cm6 stables.

Thanks all. Didn't want to jump into 2.2 without knowing what I was getting into. I decided to start with CM6.0.0, and so far its been great. As mush as I love all things Freshh, I'm mad I waited this long. I DO miss the Senses dialer (minus the ungodly lag) and I havent made up my mind on the keyboard, but the overall speediness is killer.
Hell yea froyo/ CM.

[Q] 2708 Sense Roms?

anybody seen any 2708 sense ROMs yet?
Im currently running the latest sparksmod which is awesome and fast as hell
BUT, i miss sense.
im even willing to give up froyo and go back to eclair.
im also not real clear on the steps (kernel/radio/SPL) i would need to take to get backto having a G1 that can run sense.
any insight would be awesome.

I personally have not seen any SENSE roms for the 2708 kernel. That does not mean that they do not exist tho.
As far as removing the 2708 radio/SPL, you can go back to the Danger/Death SPL and proper radio through recovery. Radio first, then SPL, then ROM and gApps.
Most ROMS already have the needed kernel included...It should be posted otherwise

2708 Sense ROM with MTD
the dev is kind of busy with college atm so there haven't been done much work for 2 weeks now. But it is pretty up to date, fast and stable

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900765
There is an ongoing project here.
For now there is an old 2708 kernel with +8mb ram (not14) that is compatible with old rom (1.5 and 1.6, so 1.5 sense rom)

Recent Kernels for Donut/CM4?

After copious experimentation with FroYo roms, the 2708 radio, and various other things, I've settled on running the last version of CM4 on my G1. But I would like to flash a more recent kernel to support (among other things) overclocking. What's the most recent kernel I can flash on the 2302 radio and CM4?
Thanks!

I would love this too, I have the new SPL and radio but the speed of even the best Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs just can't match Donut on the G1. I'd like to go back to ZXDonut but am not sure what will happen if I flash it without a 2708 kernel to go with it.

Jacquestrapp said:
I would love this too, I have the new SPL and radio but the speed of even the best Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs just can't match Donut on the G1. I'd like to go back to ZXDonut but am not sure what will happen if I flash it without a 2708 kernel to go with it.
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We are asking slightly different questions, but I think I have an answer to yours. See this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9608529&postcount=966

I use ezterry's kernel (linked in the post above) on enom's 1.6
I've had no issues with it, and my G1 definitely likes running donut much better than anything else I've tried.

Are you using 2303 or 2708 on your phone? That kernel linked above has 2708 in the filename and I'm afraid to flash it on a 2303 radio and rom.

[Q] Lightest stable ROM?

I don't really use my phone for much besides texting and listening to music. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a ROM that would be good for me? I think I'd just want the lightest, best battery life ROM. I've never really dipped too deep into this sort of stuff, so browsing threads in the development section isn't really getting me anywhere.
If any of this info helps, this is what I've currently got on my phone (T-Mobile G1):
Biffmod 2.1
Dream PVT 32b Ship S-On
1.33.0013d SPL
2.22.27.08 Radio
RA-dream-v1.7.0 Recovery
Thanks for any help in advance.

I believe that biffmod is one of the fastest, cleanest, and most stable roms around. If you want anything faster, you would have to revert back to android 1.6. Either stock or by a dev here. However, I think biffmod fits the bill perfectly.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

theres ezgingerbread, and ezterry's froyo aosp
both light and stable

There is also SuperAosp 6.4. To me it's stable enough. It also run fast for me.

i agree with maximo360. ezgingerbread, ezterry froyo ota, xillius donut if you dont mind android version. superbad cm5 is good also. ads magpie is like ezgingerbread.

cripgballerkundikusu11 said:
i agree with maximo360. ezgingerbread, ezterry froyo ota, xillius donut if you dont mind android version. superbad cm5 is good also. ads magpie is like ezgingerbread.
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+1 to all the above posters, to really get speed out of the G1, you must revert to 1.6 to get the best experience, you will be very happy with that. Gingerbread is pushing it if you want to get the best speed, froyo might be a go since it does feature JIT to increase speed, same goes for ginger...But Ginger is very heavy on older devices, so I would say stick with donut, when I used the G1 I stuck with Enom's donut ROM or Ben bauncher[is that how you spell it?], I don't know of the other donut builds but those two are my top choices for anyone.

Donut or Froyo...
Hi,if you want everything to work without troubles and stable flash HtClay fastest 3.0.3 or Froyo by Lazslo with Farmatito kernel... Еverything works brilinat and batery life is long

Dug out an old Tmo G1 with cyan 4, looking for a good daily driver rom.

My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.

EzGingerbread is very stable and eeks just about every last drop of speed the old G1 is capable of providing. The opening post of that thread has pretty extensive instructions.
He also provides links to older versions of apps that work well. Newer versions of some apps like Maps are just too bloated to run on the G1.

gossipninja said:
My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.
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Check out Royalknight6190s ROM Bible, and my recently posted G1 Oracle. I would recommend Feoyo by Laszlo, or any of the variants. Gingerbread is not a great idea on the G1. Take a look in the G1 XDA wiki for guides. Google's a good resource as well.
Do your own research if you want a ROM that lives up to your OWN personal needs. Which will probably be speed on a G1. So go for something old and lightweight.
Also, this is a development forum this thread should be in Q&A.

I agree that Froyo by Lazlo was a good build, but you will need to flash a different kernel over it - either Farmatito's or EZTerry's. There's a known battery drain bug with the stock kernel.

thanks for the input guys, I finally hunted down the old hboot and danger spl files, as well as a tiny gapps and have cm6.1 on it.
I might have to add in the EZTERRY 14mb hack, but that will have to come later.