Related
Speaking as someone who uses their phone pretty darn constantly, I'm in need of a battery that lasts a bit longer than the stock.
currently, Seidio is selling an extended battery (I would link, but as a noob I'm not able to..) 1750 mAh - no new door required, but only a gain of 450 mAh..
Verizon has stated there's a 2150 mAh extended battery coming, but that will almost certainly require a new back plate.
Anyone spotted any other compatible batteries yet?
I ordered the Seidio one and while it fits behind the stock cover it also adds a bit of weight, which is great considering how light this bad boy is.
Seidio is also going to release a 3500 mAh battery in the near future! According to their website, it adds 3-5 mm of width. But for the extra battery I think it will be worth it. The only problem is I am debating on purchasing this because I had one for my tilt and well it flat out sucked after a month of use.
what do you mean it flat out sucked after a month, the thickness or the capacity of the battery?
The battery itself would barley last a day if I was lucky. Seidio just said it needed to charge like 8 times before it was full. It didn't kick in. Is this rare?
mcwoods said:
The battery itself would barley last a day if I was lucky. Seidio just said it needed to charge like 8 times before it was full. It didn't kick in. Is this rare?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you let it fully drain till the phone died, and keep turning the phone on until it wont turn on anymore. Then charge it fully, unplug when it is fully charged, let it get back down to 90-95%, then fully charge again, let die & repeat. Do that a few times and your battery life should be better. This is what I do whenever I get a new phone...
We use LiION Batteries, No special charging required
OK, to start, there is NO NEED to do any special charging conditions with Li Ion batteries, it does not matter how they are charged. A standard battery will have between 400 and 1200 charge cycles before it loses 50% of its capacity (1200 if you charge at 50%, 400 if you charge at 0-10%, like when the phone quits on you). Ni Cadmium on the other hand does require special charging situations but we don't use them in cell phones because of the mass. You can do take the advice of the previous post, but if you do that I would suggest sacrificing a virgin symbian phone or doing a handstand while plugging in your phone to charge. That might increase the battery life too.
Secondly, I spoke with Verizon, and their 2100 mA extended battery will be available soon and it is supposed to fit with the stock backing, probably the best way to go if you ask me, only $60 too. I am checking their site almost daily waiting for this to become available since like many, I need more battery life, I find that I can barely make it through the day without being conservative with the use, and that's on a work day when I'm not on it that much, on the weekends I have to charge it in the afternoon.
If you want to save on battery, turn down the screen brightness, chose a background with as few colors as possible, the more black the less battery you will use since its an AMOLED, blacks mean there is no power being used on the screen. Turn off your GEO locations services both on the phone settings and in programs that run a lot. This will easily save you 25-30% battery life.
Drstovetop said:
Secondly, I spoke with Verizon, and their 2100 mA extended battery will be available soon and it is supposed to fit with the stock backing, probably the best way to go if you ask me, only $60 too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was at a Verizon store yesterday asking about it and they showed me their documentation. Their extended battery will come with a new back cover that is slightly raised to fit the larger battery.
I'm waiting for this too because it looks like it will be the most aesthetically pleasing option.
Too bad the guy had NO idea when the accessories were going to become available. Ugh.
kenkamm said:
Too bad the guy had NO idea when the accessories were going to become available. Ugh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon doesn't trust their employees very much - to prevent leaks, they don't tell people about equipment/accessory release dates til within about two weeks of the actual release. The Incredible launch announcement had one of the longest announcement to release times I've seen the the last two years.
Read this post on extended batteries and non oem batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770
I used my OEM TP2 battery which is rated @ 1500 mah last me now to the end of the day with moderate use.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230439043798&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
for those with budget oem tp2 only $14.99 and fits in original back cover
i got my seido battery yesterday and it lasted me all day and I used it more than I usually do just to see what it could do... 1.5 hours of slacker radio at the gym... games and internet for an hour at work while on break... several phone calls and I'm still at 40% battery... and it says it gets better after 5 or 6 charges on the box...
theoneownz said:
I used my OEM TP2 battery which is rated @ 1500 mah last me now to the end of the day with moderate use. For those with budget oem tp2 only $14.99 and fits in original back cover
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
$14.99 + free shipping for a battery that lasts all day from moderate use? This sounds great and I'm ready to buy it now! ... But is it safe to use this battery with an Incredible?
two_cents said:
i got my seido battery yesterday and it lasted me all day and I used it more than I usually do just to see what it could do... 1.5 hours of slacker radio at the gym... games and internet for an hour at work while on break... several phone calls and I'm still at 40% battery... and it says it gets better after 5 or 6 charges on the box...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's sweet. I'm guessing you're referring to the Seidio 1750 mAh battery? Where did you get it from? Thanks!
miketlo said:
Read this post on extended batteries and non oem batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649770
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont know, but my seideco 1750 def gets me 3 more hours a day on my Incredible. I have switched back and forth from stock and the extended...the extended wins EVERYTIME...so Im not sure about that report.
@ suzook
I read that my OEM TP2 rated as one of the best.
TP2 OEM standard issue Rated @ 1500mAh Tested @ 1414mAh
Most Likely our stock incredible battery has a lower mAh then it actually states it is.
@ Xxq TZ pxX
Yes it will work because its in my phone now working like a champ ;O)
I also told someone else here like myself who swapped from the tp2 ====> incredible and he seen it first hand as-well.
TP2 batteries work fine
Hey all,
The TP2 battery works fine. Same size and 200mAh more than stock... in fact I've seen them sold on Fommy.com as the thin extended battery for $44.95. Don't be fooled, and just go buy the TP2 batteries. They're cheaper if you don't need the therapy session of a rebranding.
Enjoy!
P.S. Got a workaround for Skype too...
I'm sure a number of HTC CDMA phones have interchangeable batteries.
I swapped out the 1500mAh battery from my Sprint Hero and put it into my Incredible. It's easily out lasting the stock incredible battery.
I ordered the 1500 HTC battery as well. Between those to staying charged I am not worried about it.
Also anyone know of a battery charger for these types of batteries?
For those of you that want a red 1500mah battery I found this but im not sure if its oem or not it just says its an htc extra capacity battery hxxp://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=825
Anybody know if this "HTC HD2 Extended Media Battery + Battery Cover BP E400" is going to fit/compatible with T-mobile htc-hd2?
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b195058.jpg
LOL that thing is huge!! It doesn't look that comfortable. I just bought a second battery as a back up. I figure that since I am pulling out my battery to reset the phone once or twice every day that I would make sense to have a fully charged battery in case I was low on juice or something.
I saw Mugen Power 2600mah extended battery with build in reset hole
adamhlj said:
LOL that thing is huge!! It doesn't look that comfortable. I just bought a second battery as a back up. I figure that since I am pulling out my battery to reset the phone once or twice every day that I would make sense to have a fully charged battery in case I was low on juice or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw Mugen Power 2600mah extended battery which is thinner than the OEM with reset
hole on the cover, you donot need to remove the battery cover in case you need to reset,
you can find our from Youtube.
I would love to see a profile shot of one of these. I have not seen a single one...no comparisons...nothing.
WOW that would make my hd2 look like one of the 90's cellphones
anyways you should take a look at ZAGGsparq™ Portable charger
its a bit pricey but I think It would be worth the money, Im thinking of buying it
I just received mine from Expansys USA. I will post pics later with it on my TMobile HD2.
deemota said:
I just received mine from Expansys USA. I will post pics later with it on my TMobile HD2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome! Can't wait to see, also curious as to how long it will last. Do some battery testing for us please
http://twitpic.com/1oq7x4
http://twitpic.com/1p1ev2
http://twitpic.com/1p1ezz
http://twitpic.com/1p1f3n
http://twitpic.com/1p1f7k
http://twitpic.com/1p1fkt
http://twitpic.com/1p1fq0
So far I have had it for 24 hrs. Push email, alot of texts, a few calls, lots of browsing, just my everyday use and it's at 58% right now. AWESOME!!!!!!!
deemota said:
So far I have had it for 24 hrs. Push email, alot of texts, a few calls, lots of browsing, just my everyday use and it's at 58% right now. AWESOME!!!!!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for all the pics!
Does the kickstand feel pretty sturdy? And, does it "snap" into fully-open/fully-closed positions, or does it travel freely between them?
Does anyone have any news on when the extended life SLIM battery will be released, either by SEIDIO or MUGEN POWER? I'd like more battery life but not that huge back.
*EDIT* Found one from Mugen Power.. only and extra 70 mAh.. not sure if it's worth it but I might buy.
I have the andida battery, its a def. improvement from the stock one! I wanted to test it out, but im currently occupied with the CFA.
alvinmathew88 said:
I have the andida battery, its a def. improvement from the stock one! I wanted to test it out, but im currently occupied with the CFA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
have you tested this out yet? is it lasting any longer? what's the mah? any memory loss?
Let us know!!!
ill be back on the forums after june 5th... the results are good better than stock battery for sure.
i heard that HTC HD2 Extended Battery BP E400 will not fit HD2 TMOUS version very well and i am looking for someone to confirm this for me ?
Well im bored in my class. So i guess, ill write up this review.
First off, I purchased andida battery off ebay, and is a very well known, i believe korean battery maker. It took two weeks from Hong Kong for me to receive the battery. Second, i did proper break-in for the battery, about 5-6full charge & discharges. The OEM battery barely lasted the entire day for me, i disconnect from the charger at 9 A.M., and by 8:30, im at 1%!! With the new battery, the same goes, but by 8:30, im at 15%, and will die by about 10ish. I have the phone set for push email, and the bulk of my email comes in about between 10am & 2pm. The Sense updates are set to 4 hour updates & im constantly connected to 3G. The phone never sees a charger in between 9AM & 10pm. Hopefully this sheds some light about this battery.
Reply: No memory loss. mAh, see below.
Andida Battery Specs
LI-ION Long Lasting
High Capacity Li-ion Battery
3.7v 1600mAh
alvinmathew88 said:
Well im bored in my class. So i guess, ill write up this review.
First off, I purchased andida battery off ebay, and is a very well known, i believe korean battery maker. It took two weeks from Hong Kong for me to receive the battery. Second, i did proper break-in for the battery, about 5-6full charge & discharges. The OEM battery barely lasted the entire day for me, i disconnect from the charger at 9 A.M., and by 8:30, im at 1%!! With the new battery, the same goes, but by 8:30, im at 15%, and will die by about 10ish. I have the phone set for push email, and the bulk of my email comes in about between 10am & 2pm. The Sense updates are set to 4 hour updates & im constantly connected to 3G. The phone never sees a charger in between 9AM & 10pm. Hopefully this sheds some light about this battery.
Reply: No memory loss. mAh, see below.
Andida Battery Specs
LI-ION Long Lasting
High Capacity Li-ion Battery
3.7v 1600mAh
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please post a link where on ebay you bought the battery from ?
I'm using the 2600mah Mugen extended battery and I gotta say its a huge improvement. I work 10 hour shifts and I use to leave work with only about 30-20% left and now I'm at 65-70% at the end of shift. I use it as a router a couple times a day, listen to a couple songs, and look stuff up online. I was real timid about using my phone at all cuz it would kill my battery, but now I have no problems with heavy usage. It does take a couple charges to really unlock the batteries full capacity.
vikramdhani said:
i heard that HTC HD2 Extended Battery BP E400 will not fit HD2 TMOUS version very well and i am looking for someone to confirm this for me ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the first page some one has provided several pics of the E400 on the TMOUS HD2. Everything seems to fit fine
ddgarcia05 said:
I'm using the 2600mah Mugen extended battery and I gotta say its a huge improvement. I work 10 hour shifts and I use to leave work with only about 30-20% left and now I'm at 65-70% at the end of shift. I use it as a router a couple times a day, listen to a couple songs, and look stuff up online. I was real timid about using my phone at all cuz it would kill my battery, but now I have no problems with heavy usage. It does take a couple charges to really unlock the batteries full capacity.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ordered the same battery. Have had it about a week and a half, and I'm only by my third charge. The only complaints I have so far are the 4-5 12 hour charges that the instructions say you should do initially (thankfully I only have 2 more charges to go); and the battery cover included is flimsy. It pops off with the slightest touch. Might be just a defect on mine, but maybe others can confirm this. Good thing I had another cover that stays on.
Mugenpower extended battery case
Has anyone ordered the mugen power extended battery case. Imwondering if it will fit tmobilehd2 due to the slight difference in size. I know that a lot of us are looking for a case for an extended battery. It's avail. At mugenpower.net
Today my local T-mobile store has in stock a Powerskin for the HD7. It is a silicone skin with A 1500 mAh battery built in. This brings your total mAh to about 2750 mAh. Until now the only add-on battery unit this company made was for the I-phone. I like it! It adds plenty of juice to your HD7 without making the phone into a doorstop. You can put it on and just leave it on all-the-time, or just stick it on when your battery gets low then remove it when your battery is recharged.
I tried one of these and returned it. The phone feels loose in the skin and the connector feels very delicate. It also turns the phone into a brick.
I really do appreciate that this thing is available but I'd think I'd rather just carry around a second standard battery.
How much was it?
marnold.bhb said:
How much was it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
$50. T-Mobile is running a promo on accessories though... Buy 2 get 20% off, buy 3 or more and get 30% off.
provenflipper said:
$50. T-Mobile is running a promo on accessories though... Buy 2 get 20% off, buy 3 or more and get 30% off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So if i buy 10, i get 100% of? Just wondering
Sorry The promotion ends at 30%. Buy 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 get 30%
Are these for sale in the UK anywhere?
faza11 said:
Are these for sale in the UK anywhere?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
[10 char]
Diamond_dawg said:
So if i buy 10, i get 100% of? Just wondering
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope it stops at 30% lol. If there isn't anything you need, you can throw in 2 of the $4 neck straps and you will get 30% off of $58 making the skin $40.
I bought the Powerskin during the promo; got 20% off the $49.99 price. Overall, the quality is good, it adds a level of protection to the phone and gives it a little more to hold on to; yes, it add to the heft of the phone, but that's not a prob for me. I took it one step further and took a belt clip piece and using Permatex Black, stuck it on the back of the Powerskin so that I can now carry the phone in the Powerskin on my belt. Works fine, and the extra battery keeps me going all day without worry.
A highly recommended accessory IMHO
got one myself
just got myself one too
it adds a little bulk, but not enough to make me feel that it bothers me, sure maybe the fact that the phone naked feels all like i could break the glass... but i had a hard case on it anyway and was good, but this is pretty much the same thing but with a battery that charges your phone so i like it, and it doesn't slip that easily allthough i don't know about putting it in my pocket now.. maybe it might be harder since it doesn't slide that easy. but right now just charging the battery
will see how it works out and see if the battery now last me a good long day with really heavy usage
it did before but i was worried and would last most of the day but i never wanted to run out either.
whats the brand of the silicone?do they have international post.
i bought this thing.
its just a charger....like the other "powerbanks"
it does not work like th emilli or morphoie juice pack
So it about doubles your battery life? Seems like a good investment for the long run.
StyxJ said:
So it about doubles your battery life? Seems like a good investment for the long run.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it doe snot actually double yr battery life
on standby it runs 8 hours on the powerskin and then switches to internal battery
on heavy suage , it runs 2 hours max with heavy 3G web browsing
A HOLSTER For the HD7 w/ PowerSkin On DOES Exist!!
Just arrived in today's mail from an eBay purchase.
Just search for anywhere and pick up a holster (I prefer horizontal) for the Garmin GPSMAP 78sc. Not a super-perfect fit, but does the job very well!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330597881904?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_4313wt_1373
I bought one... 3 months old and it is dead... charges with the first LED on the powerskin flashing, then suddenly goes to all 4 on like it's fully charged (even after sitting all night). Plug it into the phone and nothing... Took it back to t-mobile and they said to contact the manufacturer even though they sold it...
Just bought one, very satisfied.
One unexpected benefit, would be true of all "second battery" arrangements like this is that the phone performs better (network, browsing, video, etc.) when juice is coming from the external battery (returns to normal performance when external battery is drained). This is because the phone thinks that it's plugged in while using the external battery and therefore disables the more aggressive power saving options for network, Wifi, etc.
Also likely why doubling the battery capacity in this fashion(using a second external battery) doesn't actually double the battery life, instead giving you somewhat less than double life.
What if u turn off the powerskin till the phone battery drains then turn on the powerskin. How is the battery life
Sent from my 32gb HD7 T9292 NextGen+ using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Any new feedbacks
I checked on amazon and read the reviews of the powerskin
http://www.amazon.com/PowerSkin-Pro.../177-9847782-3454918?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
They arent exactly grt.. instead many arent!! Could any user give a final verdict on their usage, and if the reviews on Amazon should really be taken into account?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...xperia-x1-1800mah-extra-eros-akkumulator.html
Stock battery physical size, 300mah extra, the Xperia X10 & Xperia Play share the same battery
I prefer Seidio over Mugen but Seidio does not seem to support Sony Ericson devices.
I emailed their office to see if they will make a back for the Xperia Play for their 3600mah battery listed below, I got them to at least forward the request to their R&D department.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ed-replacement-battery-with-battery-door.html
Certainly would buy a 3600mah battery, don;t think i'd buy the 1800mah though, maybe when the stock battery gets old after some years.
I much admit I would like a larger battery.
3600 may not be my choice, current xperia play is abit thick... dont want to add on to the back..
highly consider 1800 as it can keep the same size...
but agree with svenk919, will get it when the stock batt is dead
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/sony-ericsson/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-r880i.html
official 3600 mah extended battery with back from mugen-power
are ou tof your mind?!
you guys are crazyy! you are paying so much for such stupid battery and it makes the device look like ****. I say go on ebya and buy 2 of those fake but okay batteries that look jus like the original one and work 75% of the original one. they come with a charger and you can charge phone and an extra battery together. it costs 1/5 of wat you are buying!
although i kno its not fun to open the back panel!
here is one:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2x-BST-41-Batter...ccessories&hash=item2eb54d88bf#ht_1261wt_1082
or you can get this 5000mah battery that looks good too. u can use it for other phones and stuff as well. ~ even this one is cheaper than that stupid badlooking battery!
http://cgi.ebay.ca/5000-mAh-Externa...Accessories&hash=item2a104b6470#ht_5535wt_849
No sane person is going to carry around an external brick to save money. Additionally, most of us who want a bigger capacity battery don't LIKE carrying additional accessories. I mean, lets be honest. If the 5000mah battery was really an option, I would probaby carry my PSP and a thinner android device around instead. And seriously, 100$ for a 2.5x capacity battery is par for the course. Im not saying that I think thats a fair price, Im just saying, people are prepared to pay setting market value. Not every decision for every person hinges around cost.
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this looks interesting..one thing good about it , is that is the same size as the original dell battery.
I think its a fake capacity, the largest capacity that fits as standard size offered by a decent battery manufacturer, Mugen Power is 1800mah, and if you read the threads here, there is a 2400mah extended battery that has to use a custom battery cover because the battery is twice the depth of the standard battery.
So, i think you will find its not really a 2430mah battery, but a 1800mah battery at best.
if it seems too good to be true...
The best bet is to get one of those external battery packs with 3000-6000mah and a spare cable.
Also be agressive in your control of screen brightness and data use
If you read the feedbacks of that seller on eBay. There are heaps of negative feedbacks from buyers calling him a CON.
I bought off amazon since it had to be shipped to India... think there was only 1 seller in Amazon and he seems genuine.
There's a point with batteries where to make them any more powerful you must make them bigger. If fitting 2430ma into an 1800ma package was possible Mugen would have done it, so yes the rating is a lie.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry. Thought you asked for the regular 2400mah.
hi, i bought this battery 2 mounth ago and my phone authonomy is double now. so dont coment if you dodnt try!
Do dell sell them?
Probably a con, but what the heck… I just purchased it. If it’s not 'as stated', I’ll report the bugger.
could keep us posted about this, i looked at the seller's feedback and seems it is fake but wondering if that is true.
The Americans have a saying "You can't put a quart in a pint pot" and that applies to battery power as well. Don't waste your money.
Irritatingly, battery capacity is only shown on the battery itself and not in the device’s battery info. So, is it really 2430mah? Don’t know. But there IS a difference. The 1530mah stock battery ran out of juice alarmingly quickly – like falling off a cliff - when at 30-40%, yet ‘Business Battery’ allows heavy use (downloads, browsing, video… etc) right down to single digits. So now I can use Streak much more (I’d say several hours more of constant use) when battery level is below 50% without worrying if it’s going to suddenly die on me. No gain between 100-50%, though.
I was prepared to slag this off, but from my experience it’s genuinely longer-lasting, especially at low battery levels. How long the battery itself will last only time will tell.
I’m not prepared to test it against Mugen’s 1800mah and spend near 30 quid (plus £18 p&p) in the process.
I've read elsewhere that the cheap Chinese batteries often don't report the available power in as many steps as a 'proper' one does, so they appear to fall slower.
I don't know how old your Dell battery is but it might not be as good as it used to be when new.
Yep, I had to replace the Dell battery (after about 10 months use) because over the past week it became completely unstable – dropping to 70% after 30min use, suddenly back up to 95%, and plummeting from then on. But the stock battery right from the start was always weakest when two-thirds empty, and it drained juice even on standby. Last night it was 100% or ‘fully charged’ for over 3 hours (mostly on standby and some light doc editing)… that had never happened before.
The thing is actually stamped ‘made in Japan’… aren’t Japanese products supposed to be expensive? Looks suspect, but whatever. If it becomes unstable after a month or two then sure, I’ll invest in a nice new Mugen or Dell replacement. But as of now I’m fairly content with a £13 Ecell batt.
Got one of these last week, & have put it through a few recharge cycles etc, unfortunately, it's no better than the stock battery
Oh well, it was worth a try..
As with all cheap batteries it has a short life - no more than 2 or 3 months before it starts to rapidly drain. As a temporary and inexpensive solution it's fine, but don’t expect long-lasting quality.