I have recently just found out there is great life after death of the celluar providers.i recently been disappointed with my celluar service (sprint) and i now programed sipdroid (SIP Calls to any number) it works great. I now have a question and hope i get many answers and replies.
1. Can a wifi security be bypassed so i can connect anywere there is wifi signal?
2. Can my Device be set up to extend a search and recieve input of the wifi signal?
3.Most Craziest Question. Is there a way (APP) to use a signal from gps or Telphone sattelites to continue using wifi anywhere?
4. Can i switch out the custom sprint Call programming with SIP calling ? Im actually working on a rom with that option but i am having much difficulties.
5.Can is there a way to catch up the delay time im having with sipdroid calls?
Im basically looking for apps to help but if it requires programming i dont mind. I paid full price for my phone and very upset with the celluar company. im not looking for a sim card hack either basically because im running a Sprint HTC HERO CDMA with fresh toast 2.1 <rooted> Please Help If you have the answer to any of my question please number them. Thank You, Ryan C.
REDSCARFACE said:
1. Can a wifi security be bypassed so i can connect anywere there is wifi signal?
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I applaud your goals, but no.
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2. Can my Device be set up to extend a search and recieve input of the wifi signal?
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I believe so.
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3.Most Craziest Question. Is there a way (APP) to use a signal from gps or Telphone sattelites to continue using wifi anywhere?
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No
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4. Can i switch out the custom sprint Call programming with SIP calling ? Im actually working on a rom with that option but i am having much difficulties.
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Probably
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5.Can is there a way to catch up the delay time im having with sipdroid calls?
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Yes and no. You'd need to dev some priority level into your connection, but it'd be hit and miss wrt whatever AP and the network that you'd happen to be using as to whether it would honor your priority request.
Can I please get more help and if possible websites and or apps to things that can be done on the questions please I'm trying to Get the help so I can advance. Thank you
Glad to hear you got the sipdroid thingie working. I did some searching and found the other guide I used to set it up so I don't have to go on GV website to place the outgoing call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405
Loddi-dah of course it was from this site hahaha. You'll see what I meant that it requires more but in the end, it works perfectly. One thing to keep in mind is that for the gv app on the phone there is an older unofficial app that isn't supported anymore BUT works just fine for our purpose imo.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405 THIS THE GUIE I USED TO MAKE IT WORK YOU HAVE TO VERIFY through google voice your sipgate accout its easy all you do is log into sip droid and then go to google voice add the number for sip gate to your fowarding list then it will verify by calling your phone on sipdroid so make sure you have sipdroid set up for pboxes and it will call you and enter them numbers to succesfully add it the thing i like is googlevoice allows me to use a ohio number where i recieve incoming calls and outgoing call with the google number great set up thanks to grunt. by the way you dont have to have a invite for google voice just download GV through market register and do all the steps in the website above then go to google.com/voice log in and then add your sipgate number to fowarding then delete your cell number account make sure your cell phone does not have fowarding on. lol who says you have to have a invite when your slick.
But i am still looking for programs to better our wifi service an so far i been working on tryna find a code that can scramble security for all wifi im haven little luck and still trying to find out how to extend my wifi input for further distance i need help please if you know how or know something let me know thank you. i have noticed from a buddy that from gps you can use a sattelite but it is very difficult to do with out getting caught other sattelites to im not mentioning in i personally dont know how yet but best believe if i find out ima program something with it. but as far as that goes im still trying to progress with sipdroid and the wifi and once i do get everything to gether i will post a list of what is used.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405 THIS THE GUIE I USED TO MAKE IT WORK YOU HAVE TO VERIFY through google voice your sipgate accout its easy all you do is log into sip droid and then go to google voice add the number for sip gate to your fowarding list then it will verify by calling your phone on sipdroid so make sure you have sipdroid set up for pboxes and it will call you and enter them numbers to succesfully add it the thing i like is googlevoice allows me to use a ohio number where i recieve incoming calls and outgoing call with the google number great set up thanks to grunt. by the way you dont have to have a invite for google voice just download GV through market register and do all the steps in the website above then go to google.com/voice log in and then add your sipgate number to fowarding then delete your cell number account make sure your cell phone does not have fowarding on. lol who says you have to have a invite when your slick.
But i am still looking for programs to better our wifi service an so far i been working on tryna find a code that can scramble security for all wifi im haven little luck and still trying to find out how to extend my wifi input for further distance i need help please if you know how or know something let me know thank you. i have noticed from a buddy that from gps you can use a sattelite but it is very difficult to do with out getting caught other sattelites to im not mentioning in i personally dont know how yet but best believe if i find out ima program something with it. but as far as that goes im still trying to progress with sipdroid and the wifi and once i do get everything to gether i will post a list of what is used.
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If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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That's what it sounds like to me too, one of the reasons I didn't reply to the thread initially. Stealing Encrypted Wifi = not cool. Unsecured wifi = cool, steal away. if the owner wasn't smart enough to encrypt it they deserve what they get.
You probably will have very little luck breaking any wifi signal with software on our phone. Hashing out passwords is labor intensive stuff, espeically if you are just brute forcing it.
WEP is the easiest form of the encrytion to break, and very few people use it. Actually the router that I just got doesn't even support it.
WPA has been broken, but I don't know how it works.
WPA2 - Good luck pal.
If you don't know anything about network security, breaking these encryptions is pretty difficult, especially with only one device available and only from outside the network.
Typically people who do break them will use 2 or 3 devices. 1 to Inject packets - another to try and decrypt the key.
This won't turn out well for you, people don't look kindly on this....netiher does law enforcement.
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If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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That's what it sounds like to me too, one of the reasons I didn't reply to the thread initially. Stealing Encrypted Wifi = not cool. Unsecured wifi = cool.
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Thats why I asked...maybe I misunderstood....
BTW Stealing encrypted Wifi = Theft of service.
Can't steal Unsecured Wifi...
No one asked for criticism u just best not to respond idiots u act like ur perfect I asked a question. I know how to crack just wwnnna use alll WiFi signal not theft u idiots.
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No one asked for criticism u just best not to respond idiots u act like ur perfect I asked a question. I know how to crack just wwnnna use alll WiFi signal not theft u idiots.
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1. I was providing information
2. In the context it was taken(go back and read your post with clear thought), you were asking how to steal services
3. Not sure what you mean by "use all wifi signal" a/b/g our phones have covered, n or n(draft) not so much.
4. I am perfect
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4. I am perfect
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I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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How could you not have a provider? Something has to transfer calls from the POTS network where the call originates to VOIP. Last I knew, skype charged for 'skype-in' to have a phone number associated with your skype account for calls to come in to.
I have already searched for and read VOIP related posts, as I indicated in the OP. None that I found addressed configuration of packet8 service, which is what I'm ideally looking for. Hopefully someone else will be able to help answer the question, rather than suggesting something I've already tried without success already.
it bugz me nuts when someone who doesnt know what theyre talkin about replies w/nonsense assuming that youre just a little dumber than them..
obviously, these ppl just dont understand what the need is And that they arent qualified to reply...
many times this makes a thread grow beyond the point of management. the mods are hard pressed to clean up irrelevant posts--- such as this..
thankfully, this thread wont reach those numbers..
i aint hating, im just saying :: you all just spit out the words "search" and often a thread you spout off is hundreds of posts long and most are irrelevant--
impossible for someone who has a life to wade all the way thru..
thanx for the space-- feel freee to delete this post.
BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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That I will!
gai-jin said:
I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
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Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
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I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
VOIP or not to VOIP
I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
FREE softphone/BYOD
Simply put, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/:)
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
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First of all, THANK YOU for your very detailed post. It is on point, and addresses my questions, and that's very much appreciated.
I did want to elaborate just a bit on the Gizmo option though. The only reason I specifically mention Gizmo is because that's the provider that grandcentral says it works with. Is it possible to use a good windows mobile voip client with gizmo service? If so, that would be ideal, since I could continue to receive calls to grand central, without having to pay for a seperate sip /voip-in service.
http://www.google.com/support/grandcentral/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=79951
I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
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Again, thanks for the info. I'll definitely check out that thread. I'm fine with using a different provider if need be, but somewhat hesitant just because calls would be going from pots to grandcentral to pots dialing the voip number, back to voip to get to my phone. (at least, I assume since GC only supports gizmo voip numbers, that they are actually forwarding to pots for any other calls outbound.) That just seems like a lot of transitions, which is why the gizmo would be my first choice if it can work with a better voip client.
Thanks again!
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I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
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Unfortunately, 3G isn't available around here, but as I said, I'm really looking for this to work over a wifi connection anyway, which should definitely be fast enough to handle the calls.
I'll check into fring, hopefully it can support the gizmo service as well!
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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I've seen ads for the Mobiletalk service form packet8 before, but unless I'm mistaken it's intended for getting voip rates on international calls, not for everyday voip use for domestic calls. I'm downloading the app now to see if it can be used in that way, but if it does what I need I'll be surprised.
Whoops, looks like my initial understanding was correct:
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How does MobileTalk work?
MobileTalk is a small software application that monitors your international calls and redirects it to the Packet8 service. When an international prefix is dialed (starting with 011, + or 1), MobileTalk intelligently redirects the call to an access number in the same area code as your mobile phone number, and connects the call over the Packet8 VoIP phone service network. To sign up click here.
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Seriously?
Did you not read my post? It is a free pocket pc softphone that you can use with any SIP/VoIp service, as long as you can get their network settings. As with the post earlier in the thread, VoipStunt provides a very reasonable service, and they provide settings for BYOD(bring your own device). You will find it here http://www.voipstunt.com/en/sipp.html But mainly you need a windows mobile softphone, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html From there you have many more options on what service you use. Also try http://www.broadvoice.com/ they have many flavours of service.;-)
I am not sure this will do the job for you but google wengophone. They have a soft phone that will work on your Tilt. I have used it to make outgoing calls and works good. I have not tried it for incoming as I think my ATA would pick the incoming up first. All you need is your login, PW, proxie and domain server name. If you have those for Gizmo it should work.
Let us know if it does.
FWIW, I'm 75 or so pages into the 'log educational thread' mentioned above. Anyone who's starting on that thread, feel free to read from the beginning, but don't start installing stuff or mucking with settings until you've read all the way through. There are multiple revisions of the cabs and files needed, and it seems that the original posts don't get updated with the new info.
So far, my voip is working, using the windows mobile 6 client, with gizmo, so yes, it can be done, but it's only working on speakerphone currently. Still reading for more info.
I've just summarized a bit of what I've gathered so far from that long 'educational' thread pointed out by hotmail, on page 135 of the same thread. Hope that helps others!
I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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The phone doesn't just stop powering on after you cancel your service.
There are some illegal things you could do to bring it to another carrier... you can always use Data on wifi. I have read of some people using it for a simple PDA/Media player when they are done with it.
I for one am 100% happy with sprints customer service and cell service. Updating the phone could have happened quicker, but hey what do you do.
They have yet to do me wrong. Best cell company I have ever worked with and a heck of a good price.
When I left Verizon and told them I was going to Sprint and told them the price, the retentions department didn't even put up a fight because they knew they couldn't touch Sprints price.
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
And my tethering with Spint is 3 times faster than it was with Verizon, and I acutally paid verizon the extra 15 a month for it....huge waste.
you could use skype to make calls over wifi
otherwise you will just have a PDA
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
I went through the same type of thing when I went from my touch pro to the hero. I still wanted to use my touch pro as a dedicated gps since at the time there werent any decent ones available on android. anyways, I had then went and set up a similar thing for making calls via the wifi using GV, sipgate, and I believe it was fring....I forget. Basically I would go on my phone browser to google voice, initiate the call from the website, then fring would ring on my touch pro and finish connecting the call. lawl, I just set up my brother's fiance's phone to do that since she is going to Germany for the summer this weekend...so she and my bro can talk for free (though she needs wifi which her dorm over there will have)
Ya, I definitely hear ya about Sprint.....it's funny, I get so so service in my house, yet about 2 miles down the road is a sprint store and as soon as I pull out onto the main drag BAAAAAM insta full signal >.<
As annoyed as I am I will not go back to verizon......way to rich for my blood LOL.
Here is a quick how to for the easiest way to accomplish the free calls thing via wifi. It's a little dated but the info is still good me thinks. The only thing is that you'd have to go to google.com/voice on your phone and (thankfully having all contacts synced to google) initiate the call/sms from there. To get it so you can actually dial out from the phone would require ALOT more configuring and can be annoying. So try this first, make sure it works and then if you want to get more jiggy with it, then figure out the whole "SIPSORCERY.com" thingy.
Good luck
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100470
Thank You i am going to try and run the sipdroid and google voice idea i kinda wish there was a app too pick up a wi fi signal with increase strenght so i can use my phone everywhere instead of just home and local buisnesses lol. If you have any ideas to pick up further signals or wifi everywhere let me know also if you have and more ideas on the talk for free let me know thank you.
no dice there my friend haha, here is a thought. think of the phone as a cordless phone for home also, just keep in mind that the audio quality isn't going to be 100%. There will be a delay, there will be some compression artifacts, but hey at least its a free alternative to home phone right?
EDIT: being in a strong wifi environment will DEFINITELY help with quality as it has more umph to work with
i noticed when i read the how to guide u posted thaqt airplane mode will disable the cdma radio did it work so i can keep my battery lol?
heh, not certain. like I said, it's dated stuff not sure how to have only wifi on.
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
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Well I'm actually not switching carriers. I was on a family plan, then a divorce hits, and everyone is refusing to pay the delinquent bill - point being, my phone is tied to that account and can't be used on any other account until the bill is paid. So, I'm hoping to sprinkle some voodoo magic on my Hero, then slap it on a new account with the same carrier.
I dont see why you dont convert the phone over to cricket service (if you have it) and just pay 35 dollars for talk and web. I mean minus well right?
Hey Devs I could really use your help in this matter. Here is the deal, I would like to find a way to be able to make free phone calls using my Captivate while deployed to Iraq/Kuwait. I will be leaving soon and would like some help with a "be all" solution. I use ATT but I don't think that really matters for what I am wanting to accomplish. I have searched all over the internet and I see a bunch of way to do this...in USA. I can't seem to find a way that will work in Iraq. I have tried to use a combo of Sipgate + Google Voice but I read somewhere that google voice only works in USA and the steps that are used appear to be for a past version of the phone app and i can't seem to get it to work correctly. I don't have a lot of time to try and figure this out because I leave very soon. If anybody knows of the steps needed to allow free cell phone calls over Wifi in the middle east, please help me out.
I know I can use Skype and that is the preferred way but that means that my all my friends and family will have to be defendant on a computer or a smart phone. I don't want that, I would like to be able to call any number on any phone over Wifi.
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Hey Devs I could really use your help in this matter. Here is the deal, I would like to find a way to be able to make free phone calls using my Captivate while deployed to Iraq/Kuwait. I will be leaving soon and would like some help with a "be all" solution. I use ATT but I don't think that really matters for what I am wanting to accomplish. I have searched all over the internet and I see a bunch of way to do this...in USA. I can't seem to find a way that will work in Iraq. I have tried to use a combo of Sipgate + Google Voice but I read somewhere that google voice only works in USA and the steps that are used appear to be for a past version of the phone app and i can't seem to get it to work correctly. I don't have a lot of time to try and figure this out because I leave very soon. If anybody knows of the steps needed to allow free cell phone calls over Wifi in the middle east, please help me out.
I know I can use Skype and that is the preferred way but that means that my all my friends and family will have to be defendant on a computer or a smart phone. I don't want that, I would like to be able to call any number on any phone over Wifi.
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Skype can call mobile and land lines. You just need to have credit. I know its not free. But there really is no free way to make calls over wi-fi.
**Edit: at least not any good means.
Google Voice only really works to US *numbers*, but the free inbound you get from Sipgate One is a US number, so it works.
The only problem is latency and variable call quality, but if you're half a world away people should be understanding...
For apps I suggest Xinlu's Google Voice Callback and CSipSimple.
Ummm ive been to kuwait and the wifi over there is not good enough to be making calls on ur phone via wifi best bet is skype or other services and or just get a local sim card over there and make cell calls and also u should just use the free dsn lines they have over there.
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I'm re-visiting the idea of sip and/or some voip option. Google voice is great, but uses airtime. What's everyone doing for free data/3G/Wifi calling with voip? The phone companies are charging ridiculous prices for basic service and would like to mostly make outbound calls that don't require airtime or use minutes.
Thanks!
Sipdroid will tie in your Google Voice number and set up a pbxes account to route calls through VoIP. It works pretty good.
Or get the app mentioned in one of the 7 threads about this exact same topic already. I can't remember what its called, but its an all-in-one tool. No csipsimple and/or pbxes necessary.
edit: ya know, the thread thats on the first page of this forum titled, "[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling"... I don't expect you to search, so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16129412#post16129412
I use grooveip
teh_lorax said:
Or get the app mentioned in one of the 7 threads about this exact same topic already. I can't remember what its called, but its an all-in-one tool. No csipsimple and/or pbxes necessary.
edit: ya know, the thread thats on the first page of this forum titled, "[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling"... I don't expect you to search, so here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16129412#post16129412
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good thing i didnt ask the same damn question, lol
autosearch on new posts was a brilliant idea =)
Imperial.mack said:
I use grooveip
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Same here, GrooveIP work great over 3g or wifi and does NOT use minutes.
+1 on the groove ip
i spent the last day downloadin every friggin app they have and groove ip was the only one that just worked without needin a PhD, and it didnt mess with everything else on my phone either.
the one thing i haven't figured out is how to get incoming calls to my google voice number to ring on my phone. i can do outgoing calls just fine, and i get incoming text messages. but incoming calls to my google voice go straight to voicemail.
im hopin i just have a setting wrong somewhere that eventually i will find and correct, but free outgoing calls is good enough for now i guess
death2verizon said:
im hopin i just have a setting wrong somewhere that eventually i will find and correct, but free outgoing calls is good enough for now i guess
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Try this, go into the Google Voice settings (on PC) and make sure that the Do Not Disturb is off and also turn off Screen Callers.
baseballfanz said:
Try this, go into the Google Voice settings (on PC) and make sure that the Do Not Disturb is off and also turn off Screen Callers.
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yeah, i found the "call screening" setting previously and was hoping that was why but it had no effect. i did verify that the do not disturb is unchecked as well
i did find one thing i had overlooked, under the "fowarding phones - foward calls to:" i unchecked the actual number of my cell phone (the one provided by at&t, as in my "real" cell phone number).
i was thinking that having calls fowarded to my actual cell number would defeat the whole purpose, essentially just fowarding the free google voice calls to my cell as a normal incoming call and therefore using my minutes.
knowing more now then i did then about how google works by "intercepting" the calls, i'm guessing this is probably what i did wrong...
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death2verizon said:
knowing more now then i did
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than, not "then"
sorry, just my OCD rearing its ugly head, lol...
death2verizon said:
yeah, i found the "call screening" setting previously and was hoping that was why but it had no effect. i did verify that the do not disturb is unchecked as well
i did find one thing i had overlooked, under the "fowarding phones - foward calls to:" i unchecked the actual number of my cell phone (the one provided by at&t, as in my "real" cell phone number).
i was thinking that having calls fowarded to my actual cell number would defeat the whole purpose, essentially just fowarding the free google voice calls to my cell as a normal incoming call and therefore using my minutes.
knowing more now then i did then about how google works by "intercepting" the calls, i'm guessing this is probably what i did wrong...
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than, not "then"
sorry, just my OCD rearing its ugly head, lol...
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Actually, if you are using groove ip, you have to have incoming calls set to ring Google chat in your Google voice settings. And then anytime you're signed onto groove ip, calls will come to you.
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free PSTN calls? no such legit thing.
@google voice fanbois
Have you no [privacy] issue with how google bridges calls? Ever GV call has THREE parties: you, the other guy, AND google.
your "free" calls seem to have a high price tag, much as adware apps do.
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how long would you spend trying to find a free mobile phone WITH a free provider?
I'm in a slightly larger sip/pbx pond.. I pay an internets pbx host and configure asterisk to my liking.
My privacy is not a commodity
VerizonKoolaid said:
Have you no [privacy] issue with how google bridges calls? Ever GV call has THREE parties: you, the other guy, AND google.
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I am always amazed at how freaked out people get over privacy issues. Do you really think that google is going to take the time to listen in on my calls? Or read my emails? Or look at my calendar? What about what your bank does with all your transaction details? Or your ISP with all the sites you visit? Or your telephone company with all your phone records and the possibility of them illegally recording your phone calls, or at the very least, tracking where you are calling?
There are countless entities that keep "private" information. Apparantly, we have total faith in the other ones I mentioned, but somehow think that Google is out to get all of us and wants our first-born child? I really don't think Google cares about all the text messages I send my brother about geeking out with random tech bits, or when I call my mom using GrooVeIP from Germany, or all emails I get from youtube people asking me to subscribe to them, or knowing that I have a weekly thing called Institute that happens Wednesday nights at 7:30PM because it is on my calendar. What are they going to do with this information? Are they going to try and create a robot clone of me to take over my life?
The point is that there is a ton of information about YOU out there and a ton of different companies have it. And they have had it long before google ever came around. If you are really concerned about your information being held by 3rd party companies, you better figure out a way to live completely self-sustained.
Hi guys,
Unfortunately, the area i live in has incredibly bad signal for all networks and back with my HTC sensation i used to have a orange signal boost app which enabled me to use something called UNA to make and receive calls through my home WiFi.
Since moving to my lovely new One, I dont have this option. I havent even bothered to get on the phone to Orange as they prove to be useless every time.
After doing a bit of research and playing with my phone, I found out about the Internet Calls within settings but it needs account settings.
Like with the 3g settings, are there some generic orange settings someone would be able to tell me that will enable me to use this feature?
Any help would be greatly received!
Thanks,
radeonorama said:
Hi guys,
Unfortunately, the area i live in has incredibly bad signal for all networks and back with my HTC sensation i used to have a orange signal boost app which enabled me to use something called UNA to make and receive calls through my home WiFi.
Since moving to my lovely new One, I dont have this option. I havent even bothered to get on the phone to Orange as they prove to be useless every time.
After doing a bit of research and playing with my phone, I found out about the Internet Calls within settings but it needs account settings.
Like with the 3g settings, are there some generic orange settings someone would be able to tell me that will enable me to use this feature?
Any help would be greatly received!
Thanks,
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The Internet Call feature is for those with accounts with the likes of sipgate. You can make free calls to other SIP numbers but will need to buy credit when dialing normal numbers.
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The Internet Call feature is for those with accounts with the likes of sipgate. You can make free calls to other SIP numbers but will need to buy credit when dialing normal numbers.
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Bugger! Thanks for the reply.
Doesnt look like its happening then!
Do you happen to know if the tmobile wifi calling apk is anywhere available. I've had a search and cant seem to find it. I ask as that seems to be available on the one and TMobile kinda the same as Orange as both owned by EE and I just thought id try a punt at the app also working on orange.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807199
Is this what your referring to?
A quick Google search threw up lots of possible links.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807199
Is this what your referring to?
A quick Google search threw up lots of possible links.
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Yeah that's the one, but sorry, i should have been a bit more specific, I meant the apk off a one as it seems to be shipped with the one tmobile branded versions so I figured I would have the best chance with that version.
I'm bumping this thread to see if there are any solutions for this a few months on. I also live in a poor area for reception with Orange / EE, but I do have a decent net connection and WiFi. To make matters worse, I get an equally poor signal at work and constantly have to move my phone around to pick up texts.
The EE website has the following information for those unfamiliar, but the feature isn't currently supported in any ROMs I have tried:
http://help.ee.co.uk/system/selfser...RTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=1187596&CUSTOM_BRAND=Orange
Despite this sounding like a fantastic feature, I can barely find any information on the forums or through Google.