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Cant Recieve Calls While on HSDPA, T-Mobile UK

Hey Every1,
While surfing the web lets say on a HSDPA connection if someone tries to call me they are automatically sent to my voicemail. I then get a text some time later saying I missed their call. The only way to solve this is to not use the internet and then disconnect the data session by clicking the h in the top bar.
Ive been searching through the forum and on the web in general and have seen this problem mentioned in regards to vodaphone but not t-mobile. In fact with t-mobile I have read that it should/does cancel the data session automatically to allow for the call or drop down to 3g so that call can be taken.
1) has anyone else experienced this problem?
2) if so is there a soloution? The only one I can think of is to disable hsdpa in the registry or set connections to cancel data connections after a small period of inactivity.
This is kind of frustrating when ure trying to find a friend and using google maps and he/she cant call get hold of u cos it keeps going to voicemail!!
Any help/other users on t-mopbie uk commenting on whether they suffer from this problem would be appreciated.
Im running standard tmobile radio (1.27.12.32)
Thanks

I'm using the 1.27.12.17 radio, and can make and receive calls when on an HSDPA connection. I'm on T-Mobile, too. Possibly change the radio and see if that makes a difference?

I get the same problem when using data on the HSDPA connection. When using 3G, the call will go through.
According to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321596 it is likely to be a network problem. Is it worth asking T-Mobile about this? Are people on other networks having this issue too?

Prufrock said:
I'm using the 1.27.12.17 radio, and can make and receive calls when on an HSDPA connection. I'm on T-Mobile, too. Possibly change the radio and see if that makes a difference?
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Is that radio a standard t-mobile one or did u flash that ureself? Thanks

Did a bit of diagnosis and further reading on other info from other sites.
It appears I am not alone, and unfortunatly the information is varied some saying its networ and other the phone.
Its not just HSDPA but 3G to, if ure doing some data donwnloading it wont allow u take a call. The only way to have data and the ability to recieve calls at the same time is using standard gprs, which kind of defeats the purpose of having this phone in the first place. Here are some things i tried.
1) HSDPA ON - tried looking at some pages and whilst i was downloadin called from my other mobile to my kaiser, no luck took a while then went to voicemail. Once it finished downloading and it was inactive (but ie still up) it dropped down to 3g and accepted incoming calls. Also i tried to make a call while surfing and it worked fine. When i then rang from a 3rd phone whilst on the call i made it recieved it in hsdpa mode no probs (call waiting).
2) HSDPA OFF - Same as above to be honest not even worth dropping down as u cant even tell if it will accept calls as it just says on 3g rather than dropping down.
3) UMTS OFF - Works fine recieves data and make and recieves calls.
This is really annloying as it defeats the purpose of having this phone. Im quite happy to not surf and talk at the same time but i dont want to miss important calls. Id really like to know if any1 else is experiencing this problem and what they did about it, whether it is indeed network specific or a problem with me/all kaisers.
This also means u really cant have skype and or msn signed in all the time as it wont auto disconnect when a call comes in.
Thanks

thanutz said:
Is that radio a standard t-mobile one or did u flash that ureself? Thanks
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Flashed it myself.

Prufrock said:
Flashed it myself.
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Awesome...and everything is working fine on that rom? Did u have the rom I had to begin with?? Just debating whether flashign the radio rom may cure my problem
Thanks
Anil

Prufrock said:
Flashed it myself.
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oh one last thing, when u flashed the radio rom did put a different software rom on it e.g. from t-mobile to htc original? As u had a radio file did u bother to sim unlock...how did it go...
Sounds like i might just flash the radio rom to see if it cures the problem and might aswell sim unlock it at the same time. Just curious to know ure experiences

Two links one 2 the radio u said and one to radio dump tools
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015

Someone on T-Mobile please comment.....

Hi,
I'm on T-mobile UK, I'm on the standard WnW so dont have the HSDPA, but I did have the same problem on 3G, couldnt take calls while surfing.
It was bugging me as hell. After some research (out here and on some other forums) I tried the bandswitch app to change the band to GSM (it was on 'auto') and it worked. After a couple of days, I uninstalled bandswitch and reverted to 'auto' again and everything worked fine. I havent had problems and its been over a month now.
Regarding sim unlocking and CID unlocking, I've done that recently. I was on radio version - 1.27.12.11 and am now on 1.27.12.32
just waiting for a good stable 6.1 rom and will flash then.
hope this helps.
cheers

Thanks Koowdewil im gonna give that a try
Do u know where i can find the bandswitch app that you used???
here: ??? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844

I emailed T-Mobile about this and here is there response:
Dear .....
I am afraid this is normal for this device. When you are browsing the web and the page has already loaded then the call will come through as normal. However if the device is still in the process of downloading the site then the call will go to voicemail. I am afraid there is no way round this issue as this is the way it has been designed by the manufacturers. Please contact us if you have any further queries. Thanks.
Regards
Stephen
T-Mobile

Yes, you could try there or just google it, danielherrero is the developer. I've heard about t-mobiles response but after switching the mode to 'gsm' for some time and then reverting back to 'auto' I havent had the problem.

Thanks so much gonna give this a try

I'm on T-Mobile UK and have flashed Duttys new 6.1 ROM and am experiencing this same issue. any ideas which is the best 6.1 compatible Radio for T-Mobile Uk?

Funnily enough I have started badgering T-mo UK about the 6.1 update already and they have started using there normal excuse of doing heavy beta testing compared to other CPs.
Typically ignoring them I am awaiting a response from my contact on the inside about the 6.1 update release....
With regards to the Call/HSDPA/3G issue I cannot say I have experienced this however 90% of the time mine is fixed to GSM lol

I've got a 3 PAYG sim and TM contract. Just tried this with 3 and call came in when streaming with realplayer and loading internet page no problem.
Same with test with TM too.
Using Duttys 6.1 with 1.64.08.21 radio.

Im on T-mobile UK with webnwalk and having no problems with this, I used a tweak to enable hsdpa/3g on continues so its always ON...
I can still recieve calls while using the inet at the same time.

Hi everybody, I am using GPRS and facing the same issue; No incoming call while GPRS is on... so any idea ?
regards

New to the Tilt

First post.
Hi all. I have been tinkering with the tilt for a few weeks now and so far have found my answers on this forum pretty easily. I am running the ATT Tilt rom. I am on a data only plan, thru which I use slype. I have no voice plan. This leads to to want to disable the dialer, block the voice network access, or whatever I can do to make sure that this phone does not connect via the att voice net @ 45 cents a minute. Cant seem to find this little peice of info anywhere. thanks in advance for the help.

I'm guessing your best bet is just to remap the send button so it won't be able to dial if you press it not purposefully. Check the link below to see how it can be done (as the green "send" button doesn't appear in the "button" utility):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322&highlight=map+send+button
If you use the HTC homescreen, just remove all your favorite people and you won't risk dialing them out of an unexpected screen touch.
I assume you still want to be able to place a call occasionally otherwise you would not have gotten a Tilt...
Otherwise, I don't know how to only have 3G or Edge Data on without voice/phone function...have you checked the hermes or trinity forum sections?

lawnarjax said:
First post.
Hi all. I have been tinkering with the tilt for a few weeks now and so far have found my answers on this forum pretty easily. I am running the ATT Tilt rom. I am on a data only plan, thru which I use slype. I have no voice plan. This leads to to want to disable the dialer, block the voice network access, or whatever I can do to make sure that this phone does not connect via the att voice net @ 45 cents a minute. Cant seem to find this little peice of info anywhere. thanks in advance for the help.
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I think that you can block outgoing calls in phone settings, I am sure I saw that somewhere when I was playing around with my phone settings!

How's about just removing your SIM card? ;-P

then how would he use his data plan?

Thanks for the suggestions. I use skype over the data network for my occasional calls. Works well enough to get me by with no voice plan. I will check the settings to see if I can block calls. I like the favorite people tool, but hate how it dials out if I tap the pic. Can I change the action there?

Can I Use My Hero After I Cutt Off My Service

I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE

REDSCARFACE said:
I have recently thought of leaving sprint because of there embarrassing services and was wondering if i can still use my hero with out a service provider??? if there was a program i could run on it?? I have so much money into my phone and would hate to not use it. i believe i can use the wifi part for data not sure?? but i want to make cals n stuff is there and type of hack i can use i am using fresh toast2.1. with a radio update. Thank You for the help. Sprint truely does not know how to run a company and man i bought my phone for full price!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE
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The phone doesn't just stop powering on after you cancel your service.
There are some illegal things you could do to bring it to another carrier... you can always use Data on wifi. I have read of some people using it for a simple PDA/Media player when they are done with it.
I for one am 100% happy with sprints customer service and cell service. Updating the phone could have happened quicker, but hey what do you do.
They have yet to do me wrong. Best cell company I have ever worked with and a heck of a good price.
When I left Verizon and told them I was going to Sprint and told them the price, the retentions department didn't even put up a fight because they knew they couldn't touch Sprints price.
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You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
And my tethering with Spint is 3 times faster than it was with Verizon, and I acutally paid verizon the extra 15 a month for it....huge waste.

you could use skype to make calls over wifi
otherwise you will just have a PDA

Kcarpenter said:
You may be able to use Google Voice over Wifi to place calls, but I am not sure. I doubt you would be able to recieve them since the registered phone number would be disconnected.
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That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?

add144 said:
That's a no-go Ghost Ryder. I'm currently service-less and Google Voice won't route over Wifi for calls, SMS will however. Now, if you set up the proper SIP accounts, you can use your Google Voice account through those SIPs to make and receive calls via Sipdroid. Google will pull up how-to's.
As for those lesser than legal matters, that's what I'm about to do myself. Ever done it first hand?
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Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.

I went through the same type of thing when I went from my touch pro to the hero. I still wanted to use my touch pro as a dedicated gps since at the time there werent any decent ones available on android. anyways, I had then went and set up a similar thing for making calls via the wifi using GV, sipgate, and I believe it was fring....I forget. Basically I would go on my phone browser to google voice, initiate the call from the website, then fring would ring on my touch pro and finish connecting the call. lawl, I just set up my brother's fiance's phone to do that since she is going to Germany for the summer this weekend...so she and my bro can talk for free (though she needs wifi which her dorm over there will have)
Ya, I definitely hear ya about Sprint.....it's funny, I get so so service in my house, yet about 2 miles down the road is a sprint store and as soon as I pull out onto the main drag BAAAAAM insta full signal >.<
As annoyed as I am I will not go back to verizon......way to rich for my blood LOL.

Here is a quick how to for the easiest way to accomplish the free calls thing via wifi. It's a little dated but the info is still good me thinks. The only thing is that you'd have to go to google.com/voice on your phone and (thankfully having all contacts synced to google) initiate the call/sms from there. To get it so you can actually dial out from the phone would require ALOT more configuring and can be annoying. So try this first, make sure it works and then if you want to get more jiggy with it, then figure out the whole "SIPSORCERY.com" thingy.
Good luck
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100470

Thank You i am going to try and run the sipdroid and google voice idea i kinda wish there was a app too pick up a wi fi signal with increase strenght so i can use my phone everywhere instead of just home and local buisnesses lol. If you have any ideas to pick up further signals or wifi everywhere let me know also if you have and more ideas on the talk for free let me know thank you.

no dice there my friend haha, here is a thought. think of the phone as a cordless phone for home also, just keep in mind that the audio quality isn't going to be 100%. There will be a delay, there will be some compression artifacts, but hey at least its a free alternative to home phone right?
EDIT: being in a strong wifi environment will DEFINITELY help with quality as it has more umph to work with

i noticed when i read the how to guide u posted thaqt airplane mode will disable the cdma radio did it work so i can keep my battery lol?

heh, not certain. like I said, it's dated stuff not sure how to have only wifi on.

Kcarpenter said:
Nope, but it doesn't look too complicated from what I have seen.
Depending on who you flash too MMS may recieve but not send, and Data may/not work.
Seems like some poeple are using better cut to route proxy info stuff through opera to achieve data.
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Well I'm actually not switching carriers. I was on a family plan, then a divorce hits, and everyone is refusing to pay the delinquent bill - point being, my phone is tied to that account and can't be used on any other account until the bill is paid. So, I'm hoping to sprinkle some voodoo magic on my Hero, then slap it on a new account with the same carrier.

I dont see why you dont convert the phone over to cricket service (if you have it) and just pay 35 dollars for talk and web. I mean minus well right?

Life After Death Of The HTC HERO Questions (Wifi,Sipdroid)

I have recently just found out there is great life after death of the celluar providers.i recently been disappointed with my celluar service (sprint) and i now programed sipdroid (SIP Calls to any number) it works great. I now have a question and hope i get many answers and replies.
1. Can a wifi security be bypassed so i can connect anywere there is wifi signal?
2. Can my Device be set up to extend a search and recieve input of the wifi signal?
3.Most Craziest Question. Is there a way (APP) to use a signal from gps or Telphone sattelites to continue using wifi anywhere?
4. Can i switch out the custom sprint Call programming with SIP calling ? Im actually working on a rom with that option but i am having much difficulties.
5.Can is there a way to catch up the delay time im having with sipdroid calls?
Im basically looking for apps to help but if it requires programming i dont mind. I paid full price for my phone and very upset with the celluar company. im not looking for a sim card hack either basically because im running a Sprint HTC HERO CDMA with fresh toast 2.1 <rooted> Please Help If you have the answer to any of my question please number them. Thank You, Ryan C.

REDSCARFACE said:
1. Can a wifi security be bypassed so i can connect anywere there is wifi signal?
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I applaud your goals, but no.
REDSCARFACE said:
2. Can my Device be set up to extend a search and recieve input of the wifi signal?
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I believe so.
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3.Most Craziest Question. Is there a way (APP) to use a signal from gps or Telphone sattelites to continue using wifi anywhere?
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No
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4. Can i switch out the custom sprint Call programming with SIP calling ? Im actually working on a rom with that option but i am having much difficulties.
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Probably
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5.Can is there a way to catch up the delay time im having with sipdroid calls?
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Yes and no. You'd need to dev some priority level into your connection, but it'd be hit and miss wrt whatever AP and the network that you'd happen to be using as to whether it would honor your priority request.

Can I please get more help and if possible websites and or apps to things that can be done on the questions please I'm trying to Get the help so I can advance. Thank you

Glad to hear you got the sipdroid thingie working. I did some searching and found the other guide I used to set it up so I don't have to go on GV website to place the outgoing call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405
Loddi-dah of course it was from this site hahaha. You'll see what I meant that it requires more but in the end, it works perfectly. One thing to keep in mind is that for the gv app on the phone there is an older unofficial app that isn't supported anymore BUT works just fine for our purpose imo.

HELP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405 THIS THE GUIE I USED TO MAKE IT WORK YOU HAVE TO VERIFY through google voice your sipgate accout its easy all you do is log into sip droid and then go to google voice add the number for sip gate to your fowarding list then it will verify by calling your phone on sipdroid so make sure you have sipdroid set up for pboxes and it will call you and enter them numbers to succesfully add it the thing i like is googlevoice allows me to use a ohio number where i recieve incoming calls and outgoing call with the google number great set up thanks to grunt. by the way you dont have to have a invite for google voice just download GV through market register and do all the steps in the website above then go to google.com/voice log in and then add your sipgate number to fowarding then delete your cell number account make sure your cell phone does not have fowarding on. lol who says you have to have a invite when your slick.
But i am still looking for programs to better our wifi service an so far i been working on tryna find a code that can scramble security for all wifi im haven little luck and still trying to find out how to extend my wifi input for further distance i need help please if you know how or know something let me know thank you. i have noticed from a buddy that from gps you can use a sattelite but it is very difficult to do with out getting caught other sattelites to im not mentioning in i personally dont know how yet but best believe if i find out ima program something with it. but as far as that goes im still trying to progress with sipdroid and the wifi and once i do get everything to gether i will post a list of what is used.

REDSCARFACE said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405 THIS THE GUIE I USED TO MAKE IT WORK YOU HAVE TO VERIFY through google voice your sipgate accout its easy all you do is log into sip droid and then go to google voice add the number for sip gate to your fowarding list then it will verify by calling your phone on sipdroid so make sure you have sipdroid set up for pboxes and it will call you and enter them numbers to succesfully add it the thing i like is googlevoice allows me to use a ohio number where i recieve incoming calls and outgoing call with the google number great set up thanks to grunt. by the way you dont have to have a invite for google voice just download GV through market register and do all the steps in the website above then go to google.com/voice log in and then add your sipgate number to fowarding then delete your cell number account make sure your cell phone does not have fowarding on. lol who says you have to have a invite when your slick.
But i am still looking for programs to better our wifi service an so far i been working on tryna find a code that can scramble security for all wifi im haven little luck and still trying to find out how to extend my wifi input for further distance i need help please if you know how or know something let me know thank you. i have noticed from a buddy that from gps you can use a sattelite but it is very difficult to do with out getting caught other sattelites to im not mentioning in i personally dont know how yet but best believe if i find out ima program something with it. but as far as that goes im still trying to progress with sipdroid and the wifi and once i do get everything to gether i will post a list of what is used.
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If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??

chfields said:
If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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That's what it sounds like to me too, one of the reasons I didn't reply to the thread initially. Stealing Encrypted Wifi = not cool. Unsecured wifi = cool, steal away. if the owner wasn't smart enough to encrypt it they deserve what they get.
You probably will have very little luck breaking any wifi signal with software on our phone. Hashing out passwords is labor intensive stuff, espeically if you are just brute forcing it.
WEP is the easiest form of the encrytion to break, and very few people use it. Actually the router that I just got doesn't even support it.
WPA has been broken, but I don't know how it works.
WPA2 - Good luck pal.
If you don't know anything about network security, breaking these encryptions is pretty difficult, especially with only one device available and only from outside the network.
Typically people who do break them will use 2 or 3 devices. 1 to Inject packets - another to try and decrypt the key.
This won't turn out well for you, people don't look kindly on this....netiher does law enforcement.

chfields said:
If I'm decyphering your atrocious english properly, you are trying to find a way to hack through wifi security so you can steal internet access whereever you go??
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That's what it sounds like to me too, one of the reasons I didn't reply to the thread initially. Stealing Encrypted Wifi = not cool. Unsecured wifi = cool.
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Thats why I asked...maybe I misunderstood....
BTW Stealing encrypted Wifi = Theft of service.
Can't steal Unsecured Wifi...

No one asked for criticism u just best not to respond idiots u act like ur perfect I asked a question. I know how to crack just wwnnna use alll WiFi signal not theft u idiots.

REDSCARFACE said:
No one asked for criticism u just best not to respond idiots u act like ur perfect I asked a question. I know how to crack just wwnnna use alll WiFi signal not theft u idiots.
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1. I was providing information
2. In the context it was taken(go back and read your post with clear thought), you were asking how to steal services
3. Not sure what you mean by "use all wifi signal" a/b/g our phones have covered, n or n(draft) not so much.
4. I am perfect

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4. I am perfect
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I can vouch for this one

[Q] free calls over Wifi in Iraq/Kuwait

Hey Devs I could really use your help in this matter. Here is the deal, I would like to find a way to be able to make free phone calls using my Captivate while deployed to Iraq/Kuwait. I will be leaving soon and would like some help with a "be all" solution. I use ATT but I don't think that really matters for what I am wanting to accomplish. I have searched all over the internet and I see a bunch of way to do this...in USA. I can't seem to find a way that will work in Iraq. I have tried to use a combo of Sipgate + Google Voice but I read somewhere that google voice only works in USA and the steps that are used appear to be for a past version of the phone app and i can't seem to get it to work correctly. I don't have a lot of time to try and figure this out because I leave very soon. If anybody knows of the steps needed to allow free cell phone calls over Wifi in the middle east, please help me out.
I know I can use Skype and that is the preferred way but that means that my all my friends and family will have to be defendant on a computer or a smart phone. I don't want that, I would like to be able to call any number on any phone over Wifi.

opform249 said:
Hey Devs I could really use your help in this matter. Here is the deal, I would like to find a way to be able to make free phone calls using my Captivate while deployed to Iraq/Kuwait. I will be leaving soon and would like some help with a "be all" solution. I use ATT but I don't think that really matters for what I am wanting to accomplish. I have searched all over the internet and I see a bunch of way to do this...in USA. I can't seem to find a way that will work in Iraq. I have tried to use a combo of Sipgate + Google Voice but I read somewhere that google voice only works in USA and the steps that are used appear to be for a past version of the phone app and i can't seem to get it to work correctly. I don't have a lot of time to try and figure this out because I leave very soon. If anybody knows of the steps needed to allow free cell phone calls over Wifi in the middle east, please help me out.
I know I can use Skype and that is the preferred way but that means that my all my friends and family will have to be defendant on a computer or a smart phone. I don't want that, I would like to be able to call any number on any phone over Wifi.
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Skype can call mobile and land lines. You just need to have credit. I know its not free. But there really is no free way to make calls over wi-fi.
**Edit: at least not any good means.

Google Voice only really works to US *numbers*, but the free inbound you get from Sipgate One is a US number, so it works.
The only problem is latency and variable call quality, but if you're half a world away people should be understanding...
For apps I suggest Xinlu's Google Voice Callback and CSipSimple.

Ummm ive been to kuwait and the wifi over there is not good enough to be making calls on ur phone via wifi best bet is skype or other services and or just get a local sim card over there and make cell calls and also u should just use the free dsn lines they have over there.
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