Is there a way to tell which GSM a N1 is w/o putting in the SIM card to find out?
I'm going to look for one on CL and just want to make sure before handing money over.
cigar3tte said:
Is there a way to tell which GSM a N1 is w/o putting in the SIM card to find out?
I'm going to look for one on CL and just want to make sure before handing money over.
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I guess..... no.
No SIM means no network means no GSM, no service.
But to not take my words as the confirmation you're looking for.
leonnib4 said:
I guess..... no.
No SIM means no network means no GSM, no service.
But to not take my words as the confirmation you're looking for.
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Yeah, I'm hoping for some kind of labeling like under the battery covers or something.
I believe the model numbers are different. I saw a post with the differentiating information. If you dig around a bit you should be able to find on xda.
if your phone is PB99110 (check underneath battery) then it is AT&T model with AT&T 3g bands
gotwake424 said:
if your phone is PB99110 (check underneath battery) then it is AT&T model with AT&T 3g bands
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Thanks. You are sure the # is different on a TMO model?
my TMO model has this
PB99100
ironcrotch said:
my TMO model has this
PB99100
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Thanks, got it.
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I have a TMO Nexus One, which gets 3G no problem. My friend has a Nexus One that was bought for her, but she only gets Edge. When she puts her SIM in my phone, it gets 3G. When I put my SIM in her phone, I only get Edge.
My hypothesis is that she was accidentally given an ATT Nexus One, and not a TMO Nexus One, which explains why it will connect, but no 3G. My next test is to find a douchy friend with an iPhone and drop their douchy SIM into her phone and see if it gets 3G. But before I do that, is there a model number that I can tell which distinguishes the ATT vs. the TMO Nexus One?
Thanks in advance!
mcgoo99 said:
I have a TMO Nexus One, which gets 3G no problem. My friend has a Nexus One that was bought for her, but she only gets Edge. When she puts her SIM in my phone, it gets 3G. When I put my SIM in her phone, I only get Edge.
My hypothesis is that she was accidentally given an ATT Nexus One, and not a TMO Nexus One, which explains why it will connect, but no 3G. My next test is to find a douchy friend with an iPhone and drop their douchy SIM into her phone and see if it gets 3G. But before I do that, is there a model number that I can tell which distinguishes the ATT vs. the TMO Nexus One?
Thanks in advance!
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Odds are, your suspicions are correct. Check the APN settings in her phone to confirm that they're entered correctly, or entered at all. Sometimes this information is not entered. Worst case scenario, if it IS an AT&T N1, put it up on Craigslist for trade. I see a lot of people doing that in the Dallas market.
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One more thing, upon boot-up, is her bootloader unlocked? Do you see the unlock icon on the initial boot-up screen? If it's not there, then she DOES have a T-Mo N1. A T-Mo SIM can't work in at AT&T N1 unless the bootloader's unlocked.
Christopher3712 said:
Odds are, your suspicions are correct. Check the APN settings in her phone to confirm that they're entered correctly, or entered at all. Sometimes this information is not entered. Worst case scenario, if it IS an AT&T N1, put it up on Craigslist for trade. I see a lot of people doing that in the Dallas market.
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One more thing, upon boot-up, is her bootloader unlocked? Do you see the unlock icon on the initial boot-up screen? If it's not there, then she DOES have a T-Mo N1. A T-Mo SIM can't work in at AT&T N1 unless the bootloader's unlocked.
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APN settings were correct, but I will redoublecheck to satisfy my own OCD. her bootloader is locked, however, and her phone is bone stock, so this is doubly strange...
Christopher3712 said:
One more thing, upon boot-up, is her bootloader unlocked? Do you see the unlock icon on the initial boot-up screen? If it's not there, then she DOES have a T-Mo N1. A T-Mo SIM can't work in at AT&T N1 unless the bootloader's unlocked.
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why not? the phone itself is carrier unlocked, why can't a T-Mobile sim work in an AT&T phone?
Jep4444 said:
why not? the phone itself is carrier unlocked, why can't a T-Mobile sim work in an AT&T phone?
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this is what i thought as well
Under the battery, there's a model number like PB99100. I got that from the TMO version. ATT is different, but I don't remember what it is exactly, something like PB99109.
cigar3tte said:
Under the battery, there's a model number like PB99100. I got that from the TMO version. ATT is different, but I don't remember what it is exactly, something like PB99109.
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ah i noticed that too...it was different from my TMO phone. like PB99110 or something close, but different. now to find a douchy iPhone user with a douchy SIM card and confirm my theory...thanks broseph!
mcgoo99 said:
ah i noticed that too...it was different from my TMO phone. like PB99110 or something close, but different. now to find a douchy iPhone user with a douchy SIM card and confirm my theory...thanks broseph!
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I'm pretty sure PB99110 is indeed the model number for the AT&T-version N1.
I got my N1 from eBay and had to ask about the model number to make sure I have the right version.
cigar3tte said:
I'm pretty sure PB99110 is indeed the model number for the AT&T-version N1.
I got my N1 from eBay and had to ask about the model number to make sure I have the right version.
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we are correct...time for a swap!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10444986-266.html
there is a cell phone provider in canada.
not tmobile or att..
they claim to get fresh inventory of N1's
they claim that they will be locked to their network only and cannot be unlocked at all..
level one rep couldnt tell me what band they use-- just that phones will use their own 3G
they will sell phones outright but said that they are useless on another network..
what stock can i put in what i was told?
thanx
Most probably - 0 credibility.
A nexus one CANNOT be carrier-locked. End of story. No matter where you get your N1 from, it WILL come UNLOCKED.
MaximReapage said:
A nexus one CANNOT be carrier-locked. End of story. No matter where you get your N1 from, it WILL come UNLOCKED.
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thanx for the replies..
the provider is mobilicity.
i shouldve been more specific..
what about the 3G capabilities of buying their phone and using on usa tmobile or ATT?
thanx
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A nexus one CANNOT be carrier-locked. End of story. No matter where you get your N1 from, it WILL come UNLOCKED.
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You say that, but there are numerous reports of the French (SFR) N1's being carrier locked.
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You say that, but there are numerous reports of the French (SFR) N1's being carrier locked.
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And it's about 100th time you're writing this and failing to read the reply - that ALL the SFR Nexus that were checked, weren't carrier locked at all. People report what the sales reps tell them.
amkaos said:
what about the 3G capabilities of buying their phone and using on usa tmobile or ATT?
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It will be working on one of those. There are only 2 models of Nexus, one WILL work 3G with TMo, one WILL work 3G with AT&T. Nobody can change it without digging into HW and changing antennas, or at the very least changing the radio to restrict some of the communications - and nobody could get any of this done. HTC doesn't allow HW changes in their phones, and Qualcomm doesn't provide customized radio builds on demand (or at all).
Considering this, I believe the story of this carrier's rep has the same credibility as SIM lock of SFR Nexus - which is, 0.
im pretty sure they are going to videotron in Quebec. they use AWS.
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And it's about 100th time you're writing this and failing to read the reply - that ALL the SFR Nexus that were checked, weren't carrier locked at all. People report what the sales reps tell them.
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I've mentioned it twice that I can remember. Good news they're not locked, but like I said I was only commenting on what I read.
I shall not mention it again
Rusty! said:
I've mentioned it twice that I can remember. Good news they're not locked, but like I said I was only commenting on what I read.
I shall not mention it again
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I wasn't serious about 100 times, either
But there were 2 reports on this forum from people that bought the phone, were told that it's locked, checked it and discovered it completely unlocked.
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It will be working on one of those. There are only 2 models of Nexus, one WILL work 3G with TMo, one WILL work 3G with AT&T. Nobody can change it without digging into HW and changing antennas, or at the very least changing the radio to restrict some of the communications - and nobody could get any of this done. HTC doesn't allow HW changes in their phones, and Qualcomm doesn't provide customized radio builds on demand (or at all).
Considering this, I believe the story of this carrier's rep has the same credibility as SIM lock of SFR Nexus - which is, 0.
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i know that we can tell from the numbers under the battery cover.. but a rep isnt going to know OR tell me if he did know...
how can we find out which usa carrier they will work on?
the rep said that the company is using their carrier lines from old sony ..
i completely didnt understand this at all..
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One way would be to find the carrier on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
Jack_R1 said:
One way would be to find the carrier on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
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that answers it... perfect..
thank you
i've "unlocked" my phone using a tutorial on this website, but i'm getting a simlock on my notifications when i put my att sim card in. heres some info to hopefully clear up any questions. i have had att for years thats how i have an att sim. the reason i have a sprint one is becuase i worked at sprint for a short time and received a dealer line and phone. all new htc one. so how can i use this on my att plan thank you
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i've "unlocked" my phone using a tutorial on this website, but i'm getting a simlock on my notifications when i put my att sim card in. heres some info to hopefully clear up any questions. i have had att for years thats how i have an att sim. the reason i have a sprint one is becuase i worked at sprint for a short time and received a dealer line and phone. all new htc one. so how can i use this on my att plan thank you
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Just to clarify, what do you mean by you "unlocked" it. How did you do this? I'm pretty sure the only way to unlock our Ones is by going through sprint. Also if you do use it on ATT you won't get LTE because they have different LTE bands than sprint.
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Just to clarify, what do you mean by you "unlocked" it. How did you do this? I'm pretty sure the only way to unlock our Ones is by going through sprint. Also if you do use it on ATT you won't get LTE because they have different LTE bands than sprint.
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i unlocked it through a sprint all in one kit, maybe this was just for rooting it, but anyway I was justtrying to figure out if there was a wat to get my htc one on att, I'm not worried about the lte.
protorox said:
i unlocked it through a sprint all in one kit, maybe this was just for rooting it, but anyway I was justtrying to figure out if there was a wat to get my htc one on att, I'm not worried about the lte.
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Ok, if you used the All In One toolkit then yes you are just rooted. To get your phone unlocked you will have to directly contact sprint!
Note also that in the US, depending on the location, AT&T operates on some combination of two 3G bands and two 4G bands. Of these four hi-speed data bands, the Sprint HTC One variant only supports one band. Therefore, even if you get the phone unlocked and working on AT&T, its data performance may not be all that great.
I should have probably posted this in the Q&A, link to it, sorry about that to all Forum Goers / Operators:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453154
clcrawl said:
I am not certain if this is the correct forum for this but I'm going to throw it out there. I live in an area where "officially" the best carrier is a small local carrier. They recently partnered with Verizon to roll out LTE. I'd really love to get a Moto X Developer Edition, however I can't seen to find good information as to whether I would be able to simply plop in my local carriers SIM card into the phone and have it work.
I realize the APNs would need to be set, and ironically looking at the S4 I got from them, all the APNs appear to be "native" Verizon ones. So I guess my question is, does the carrier need to do anything else to activate the phone, or as long as my SIM is in the phone and working will the phone function? Thanks in advance for any information.
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I can't answer your question the way you would like it answered - but I can give you a glimmer of hope. I know when I was on the Note2 guys with VZW models could just pop in an AT&T sim and change apn"s and were good to go.
Hopefully someone with a little more experience will join in...
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I can't answer your question the way you would like it answered - but I can give you a glimmer of hope. I know when I was on the Note2 guys with VZW models could just pop in an AT&T sim and change apn"s and were good to go.
Hopefully someone with a little more experience will join in...
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If I could find an unlocked (SIM unlocked) Verizon phone, I suppose in theory I could throw in my SIM card and see if it works. Now to find someone in the area that has one. Then I need to figure out if my SIM card will survive cutting it down to a nano which appears to be doable.
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If I could find an unlocked (SIM unlocked) Verizon phone, I suppose in theory I could throw in my SIM card and see if it works. Now to find someone in the area that has one. Then I need to figure out if my SIM card will survive cutting it down to a nano which appears to be doable.
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All of Verizon's 4G LTE phones are sim unlocked.
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All of Verizon's 4G LTE phones are sim unlocked.
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Well somehow this has worked for me. Oddly enough the carriers APNs on their S4 are all "Verizon" APNs, so maybe they are so close the phone simply recognizes it as a Verizon SIM?
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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Did you try a T-Mobile SIM card?
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
Where did you buy it?
Have you Googled the model number?
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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Go to this site and run the IMEI. It will tell you if it's actually a U1 model or if it's a carrier model.
http://imeipro.info/samsung_imei_check.html
Whichever it is, you can just flash the ATT firmware, and it will work perfect on ATT. All the N960U and U1s are identical. Just different firmware.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Go to this site and run the IMEI. It will tell you if it's actually a U1 model or if it's a carrier model.
http://imeipro.info/samsung_imei_check.html
Whichever it is, you can just flash the ATT firmware, and it will work perfect on ATT. All the N960U and U1s are identical. Just different firmware.
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Sprint, that's why I'm having issues with it. I purchased via Amazon. I managed to get it working on Net10 wireless CDMA, so it'll work. Had to activate with my S8+ though. Thanks for the link, that helped!
gonka95 said:
Sprint, that's why I'm having issues with it. I purchased via Amazon. I managed to get it working on Net10 wireless CDMA, so it'll work. Had to activate with my S8+ though. Thanks for the link, that helped!
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Well, if you want it to work on ATT, just flash the ATT firmware. Not sure why it won't work with the U1 firmware though.
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Well, if you want it to work on ATT, just flash the ATT firmware. Not sure why it won't work with the U1 firmware though.
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Does it need root? And it has the SM-N960U1UEU1ARJ5 Baseband Version? Thanks in advanced!
gonka95 said:
Does it need root? And it has the SM-N960U1UEU1ARJ5 Baseband Version? Thanks in advanced!
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Well you CAN'T root it, but no. You don't need root to flash official firmware with ODIN.
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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So if you got it with flash for sprint then maybe you need flash what was originally on this model?
I have the very same model and I just put in my LTE Verizon SIM and it worked right away.
This model is a boot locked, carrier unlocked, world band snapdragon version, that was never originally touched by any carrier.
I.E. No carrier bloat ware. SM-N960U1
rusty.gh said:
So if you got it with flash for sprint then maybe you need flash what was originally on this model?
I have the very same model and I just put in my LTE Verizon SIM and it worked right away.
This model is a boot locked, carrier unlocked, world band snapdragon version, that was never originally touched by any carrier.
I.E. No carrier bloat ware. SM-N960U1
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I flashed AT&T but cannot get wifi calling. I ordered an AT&T one through Samsung last night. I'll return this one when I get it. The back of this phone says it's an N960U.
I forgot how crappy carriers are. AT&T unlocked my iPhone but no longer recognizes it. So, I can't get wifi calling to work before switching the sim.
Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input and workarounds! Have been out of the loop for a while.
gonka95 said:
I flashed AT&T but cannot get wifi calling. I ordered an AT&T one through Samsung last night. I'll return this one when I get it. The back of this phone says it's an N960U.
I forgot how crappy carriers are. AT&T unlocked my iPhone but no longer recognizes it. So, I can't get wifi calling to work before switching the sim.
Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input and workarounds! Have been out of the loop for a while.
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Oh, my bad, yeah the "U" models do say you might lose Wifi calling. Good it worked out for you!
I would be disappointed if I needed Wifi calling, I use the cell line 24/7 here in the US everywhere I go.
I feel like Wifi calling is just giving my carrier a break.
gonka95 said:
I flashed AT&T but cannot get wifi calling. I ordered an AT&T one through Samsung last night. I'll return this one when I get it. The back of this phone says it's an N960U.
I forgot how crappy carriers are. AT&T unlocked my iPhone but no longer recognizes it. So, I can't get wifi calling to work before switching the sim.
Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input and workarounds! Have been out of the loop for a while.
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There's actually a way to get WiFi calling on it working again. Look through the carrier switching threads in the Note 8 forums.
It's why I hate ATT and love T-Mobile. Everything works out of the box on T-Mo.
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Oh, my bad, yeah the "U" models do say you might lose Wifi calling. Good it worked out for you!
I would be disappointed if I needed Wifi calling, I use the cell line 24/7 here in the US everywhere I go.
I feel like Wifi calling is just giving my carrier a break.
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Well to be fair there will be places where signal will be weak or non and then you will be the one loosing.
They don't look at break is just way for the customers to get better signal every where they go or inside whatever tipe of building...
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Go to this site and run the IMEI. It will tell you if it's actually a U1 model or if it's a carrier model.
http://imeipro.info/samsung_imei_check.html
Whichever it is, you can just flash the ATT firmware, and it will work perfect on ATT. All the N960U and U1s are identical. Just different firmware.
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I also purchased an unlocked Note 9 on ebay. In "about phone", the model number is listed as SM-N960U1. On the back of the phone, it's SM-N960U.
The sites that tell you the model with the IMEI number are right, it's a Sprint phone. Samsung customer support said the same thing. However, the Sprint phone and the US unlocked phone share the same FCC ID.
Does that mean, they are the same radio hardware? Is it just the firmware that makes the difference in band capability? If you flashed the US unlocked version of baseband, would it be identical to the US unlocked version? I just want to make double sure!
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I also purchased an unlocked Note 9 on ebay. In "about phone", the model number is listed as SM-N960U1. On the back of the phone, it's SM-N960U.
The sites that tell you the model with the IMEI number are right, it's a Sprint phone. Samsung customer support said the same thing. However, the Sprint phone and the US unlocked phone share the same FCC ID.
Does that mean, they are the same radio hardware? Is it just the firmware that makes the difference in band capability? If you flashed the US unlocked version of baseband, would it be identical to the US unlocked version? I just want to make double sure!
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Go back and read my post you quoted. It answers the question you just asked.
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Go back and read my post you quoted. It answers the question you just asked.
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He thanked you so I'm thinking he saw it.????