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Apps on SD not accessible

I'm thinking that I may have a bad SD card in my N1.
Current setup:
[email protected] [v2.8] MCR r19 MOD [FRF83]
Old style A2SD+
After a little while, in this case an hour or so, any app that is installed/moved to the SD card become inaccessible. The OS sees the app, sort of. Most of the time the link to an app disappears all together. Sometime there will still be a link to an app, but when I try to launch it, it says the app is no longer installed. I'll go into the app manager(settings, application, manage) and apps that were installed/moved to the SD card just show a generic SD card icon and I can't get any info for the app. I try restarting/force stopping the launcher (both LauncherPro and ADW) and sometime the apps will show up again and will work, sometime the icon will show but will not launch, and sometime the app are still gone. And eventually, I will not be able to see the SD card when hooked to my computer. On the flip side though, if I boot into recovery(RA 1.0.7), I can turn on USB-MS Toggle and I can copy to and from the SD card all I want.
I just a full wipe(factory reset, cache, dalvik, ext, battery, rotate) because I was having these problems before, and I was using the regular Froyo A2SD before, so I decided to us the old style A2SD+ this time to see if that fixed the problem, but it's still happening.
Again, I'm thinking bad SD card, but I'd like some other opinions/ideas/confirmations.

So no one has any thoughts on this?

Phone issues

So i just purchased a htc hero about a week ago and i'm having some problems.
1) phone lags really bad i thought maybe cause i had music on my sd card or a few apps but after deleting them it lags just as bad. Is there any way to end the lag or is that just the way the phone is?
2) track ball, menu, home buttons, etc.. do not light up all the time or will randomly flash.
3) I have been reading about rooting the phone, but have the Build # 2.27.651.6 and read that i have to downgrade to the .5, but i have no idea how to back up all my information(numbers, pictures, media etc..)
I would extremly apperciate any help that anyone can provide, Because this is the first " smart phone" i have ever purchased and i'm really forward to being able to root the from and do things i never knew a phone could do.

2. The lights are based on the light sensor. You block the light getting to it and the trackball, LEDs, etc light up.

3.
Numbers: you can either download HTC Sync here http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=933&news_id=631 which will sync your contacts to Outlook
or if you prefer, you can of course sync via Google contacts. Settings > Accounts & sync > Google > check Sync Contacts and let it sync
Pictures and media: just backup everything on your SD card. Connect phone to PC, and when prompted on the phone, click mount as Disk drive. Open the sd card via My Computer, and copy and paste everything onto your PC.
Edit: I just realized, changing a ROM/downgrading/etc won't affect your SD card at all. You don't have to worry about backing up pictures and media, they will just stay on your SD card unharmed. You could always make a backup if you feel paranoid, though.
If you want a quick speed boost and don't really care for Sense UI, try downloading LauncherPro from the market. It's free and a really fast home replacement.

c00ller said:
...try downloading LauncherPro from the market. It's free and a really fast home replacement.
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I agree. I love it. More customizable than Sense, too. Well, if you're not a widget freak. I only use a few and I got them from the Market or they were the stock Android ones.

Well i downloaded the launcherpro and it didn't stop the lag. It still lags when i open text messages or go through my contacts.

Streetking10 said:
Well i downloaded the launcherpro and it didn't stop the lag. It still lags when i open text messages or go through my contacts.
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LauncherPro helps with gerneal home screen navigation speed.
And yeah I hate the HTC messaging app lag. I switched to Handcent (free). It opens everything way faster. I don't go through my contacts through the People app often so it doesn't bother me.
Another tip: download Spare Parts (free) and set window and homescreen animations to Fast (or if you really don't care, None).

I downloaded Spare Parts and Handcent and it helped out quite a bit. Now i have a nother issue I tried to root my phone last night but had to do the downgrade to the .5build but everytime i tried it kept saying USB ERROR 170 or something like that...

apps/ widgets dissaper after connecting data cable to computer

I have the N1 rooted with cyonagen latest Rom and I notice that anytime I hook up my data cable to computer to transfer files that after I disconnect I am losing some widgets on my home screen. I had the app batt widget and Tajm and also silent widget (all installed from the market). after I disconnect all apps disappeared and left with the message,"problem loading widget". I checked in the add to home screen widgets and the names of the apps are not there. I then checked in the settings/ applications/...and then apps show as being installed on the phone.I also notice that my input method for Texting also is gone and reset to the default android Text Input. I then have to go to my settings/keyboard and then check the Sywpe box or the Swiftkey box. Has anyone experienced anything like this? its driving me crazy as I have to uninstall and intall apps all over again. Thanks in advance

sounds like you have apps installed to the memory card. its a well known issue that any apps on the sd card become not viewable when connected to usb. and wigets cannot be installed to the sd card for this same reason.

RogerPodacter said:
sounds like you have apps installed to the memory card. its a well known issue that any apps on the sd card become not viewable when connected to usb. and wigets cannot be installed to the sd card for this same reason.
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Thanks for the response, Yes I do have my apps installed to the memory card. I was not aware of these problems of widgets & apps. I guess I will have to move my widgets to memory.

[Q] What Bloatware have you frozen/uninstalled without incident?

On my LG Revolution My SystemPanel App shows about 350 MB memory and 12 GB on the SD card. It also cites System Storage 1 GB, Application Storage 1.5 GB and Cache 193 MB. The SuperBox app shows 1.5 GB "Phone" memory. With about 25 applications "active" and several widgets installed, I still have 134 MB memory left
So far I've found the battery life not great, definitely have to charge during the day with 4lte and wifi on.
Noticed a bunch of the bloatware widgets took up memory even when I deleted them from the homescreen. Used TitaniumBackup to Freeze
Apps I've frozen with no apparent problems (yet).
411 Search
AutoRun
Backup Assistant
Bing
BitBop
Blockbuster
Bookmarks Widget
City ID
com.android.LGSetupWizard
com.android.providers.applications
come.lge.mobilehotspot
DeskHome
Digital Clock Widget
Email
Email Widget
Friends+ Widget
Guided tours
Home 2.2.2
In Touch Widget
Lets Golf
LGWirelessChargingService
LTE Test Application
Message Widget
Mobile IM
Music Visualization Wallpapers
Netflix
News 1.0
Polaris Office
Rhapsody
Rock Band
Setup Wizard
SmartShare
Software update
Sync Service
Today+Widget
VCast Apps
VCast Media Manager
VZ Navigator
Weather
What's New
What's New Widget
Wi-Fi control widget
World clock widget

Cutterstark said:
On my LG Revolution My SystemPanel App shows about 350 MB memory and 12 GB on the SD card. It also cites System Storage 1 GB, Application Storage 1.5 GB and Cache 193 MB. The SuperBox app shows 1.5 GB "Phone" memory. With about 25 applications "active" and several widgets installed, I still have 134 MB memory left
So far I've found the battery life not great, definitely have to charge during the day with 4lte and wifi on.
Noticed a bunch of the bloatware widgets took up memory even when I deleted them from the homescreen. Used TitaniumBackup to Freeze
Apps I've frozen with no apparent problems (yet).
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Ya, coming from the incredible, even stock I would have 100-150 mbs of ram, and rooted I'd have usually 180-210. This phone, having the same amount of ram as that, will be anywhere from 30-100 usually. That's some pretty bad bloat.
In 3g only network, the phone actually has a really good battery(compared to the incredible), I can go all day without root so far, the baddest part is the % i lose just sitting there without use and the screen off, it sucks.
And have you been able to assign Google where Bing had priority before? I have the bing search relatively good, just really laggy.

Thanks for this list! I had started to experiment but kept it on the safe side since we don't have a recovery yet.
I noticed that there is quite a bit more listed in Bloat Freezer over Titanium which was my first freeze app. I tried Bloat Freezer when I noticed that some things that were frozen were still showing running processes.
A couple of notes to add on to this -- I'm running Go Launcher and cannot use any of the LG specific widgets, Friends+, What's New, etc. but:
What's New is still running and has functionality beyond the What's New widget. I forget the details but I think on a missed call I got the What's New app to display missed call, sms and email count from the pull down alerts. It was late and I didn't think twice about it until the next day (which is what prompted me to find out what was still running in the background even though I'm using Go Launcher.
I'm not sure exactly which Verizon app is responsible, but i recently unfroze all Verizon specific apps while experimenting and I was prompted to try the new data usage widget from Verizon. When I originally froze all these apps, that widget had stopped working in stock home. So it is not dependent on your home/launcher, but it is dependent on one of the VZ apps.
I'm tempted to just go down your list and freeze everything all at once, but maybe I'll do it in small batches and report back any findings.
Again, thanks for the list!

Wow, that is a ton of frozen bloatpops... didn't think too much of it but that's more apps than i had on my Inc. total on CM.. lol.
Sent from my VS910 4G using Tapatalk

hmm.. how to restore search button?
I can confirm the following, as well:
DeskHome
Digital Clock widget
Email
Email widget
finance
friends+ widget
guided tours
home 2.2.2
lg keyboard
lgwirelesschargingservice
news 1.0
rhapsody
slacker
sns
v cast apps
v cast media manager
vs navigator
vzw package installer
vzw sms filter
vzwservice
weather
world clock widget
I also just completely uninstalled bing search + bing voice.
I seem to be experiencing a couple issues:
1. Search button did not remap to Google Search... so it does nothing at all
2. Lockscreen music controller seems to control a separate instance of the notification area music controller
Avail: 154MB +29MB in 4
(bah!)

I've gone through most of these without a problem -- the last one is VZWSERVICE which is now repeatedly popping up:
Sorry!
The application com.vzw.push.vzwservice (process com.vzw.push.vzwservice) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
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Every time I click on "force close" it just pops up again. I'm about to pull the battery.
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Rebooted OK.
I'll add a few more to the list:
Amazon Kindle
Bing Voice
Quick Reference Guide
User Guide
I'm curious though what purpose do these serve:
SNS
VZW SMS Filter
VZWService
I have them frozen and already recieved an SMS, so no hindrance there. I recognize the SNS icon from when I first got the phone (one of the widgets I think). I can't see any effect of having them frozen other than the obvious of course.

Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?

the ones i posted can be frozen with no incident.
of course i use a custom launcher (launcher pro) so i can't attest to the home screen working
however, after freezing some other apps listed in other posts my bluetooth wouldn't work...

I use Go Launcher and I was able to add a few to the lists above:
Tunewiki
Sync Service
Mobile IM
Messaging Widget
Messaging (I use GO SMS)
Does anyone know what the LG and Verizon hidden menus processes are?
System seems a lot faster now and has better battery as far as I can tell.
Only issue I can think of, is that When I have my BT earpiece on and connected, I can not seem to get music out of the 3.5mm jack and into the car's aux.
Anyone else have this problem? What is the solution?

What wifi tether is everyone using? My market won't update. So if anyone can post an apk that'd be great.
Also don't freeze autorun 1.0 i think it is. That is the connectivity option for our usb and hdmi slots. Without that it'll work but you can't change the options ever. So you'll be stuck with hdmi off or on and usb charge only cause i think it always starts as.
Little Buddy Sr.

OP:...just a thought, take it or leave it haha
It would be greatly appreciated if you could update the list every so often with new ones added throughout the thread. Then maybe this could become a sticky at some point.
Also:
Anyone else realize Latitude and Twitter for LG doesnt show up in Ti Backup yet is running every once in awhile.... or maybe it's just my phone?

Um I don't even remember twitter being on my phone, I use bloatfreezer and pretty much froze everything on the OP list. I don't think there is to much else that you want to freeze with out risking your phone

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Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
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If you use the stock launcher and then freeze Home 2.2.2 then you will have no home screen.
I use Go launcher EX so I was able to freeze home with no problems.
Only thing I can think of is a factory reset. But I'm sure others have better ideas.

I don't think Twitter for LG (or anything for LG) is active without the LG Home active.

I left lg home active, twitter doesn't show up anywhere in bloatfreezer. I have nothing on my phone that even refers to twitter.

Yea i'm not really sure where it's at. I think it's a sub-app(?) of something like one of those facebook/twitter/etc feed widgets. But every so often it shows up in my "running" folder on Go Launcher EX, and I used to see it in my task killer when I had one but i've never seen it on a list anywhere else.
rogue bloat? a new age in ruining our phones haha
As major said, and from what i've seen he's right 99% of the time, I haven't seen it since I froze/.bak LG Home. I'll post a screen shot if I end up seeing it again though

is there a reason that we can not just delete the .apk files from /system/app?

jxcgunrunna said:
is there a reason that we can not just delete the .apk files from /system/app?
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we're pretty much able to do that....but the hesitation has been because we have not had a recovery system and it's risky to start deleting any files at all.
However....a recovery system has been through testing lately(yesterday/today) and was released. There's no saying it's perfect but I haven't heard of anyone having big issues. So if you are comfortable with the recovery system available, delete away.

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we're pretty much able to do that....but the hesitation has been because we have not had a recovery system and it's risky to start deleting any files at all.
However....a recovery system has been through testing lately(yesterday/today) and was released. There's no saying it's perfect but I haven't heard of anyone having big issues. So if you are comfortable with the recovery system available, delete away.
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I will pick one up tonight and see what I can do once I get root and CWM on there. I will post my findings.

revolutionaryV said:
Be careful with these, I used Bloat Freezer to freeze a small subset of the apps listed in this thread (and none others) and now don't have a home screen. I turn on the phone, slide to unlock, and then the screen is black (normal indicator icons at the top). Holding home gets me to a recent apps page with no recent apps. Nothing else does anything, I can't even turn off the phone without taking the battery out. Any ideas?
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Hopefully you have this fixed already if not:
not sure if this will work but...connect your phone as a USB and hope it connects as a Mass Storage. Go into data/app and delete the Titanium Backup .apk
No idea if this will work, but it's possible that with TiBackup gone it will unfreeze everything.

XT860 - random apps not loading on boot

rooted and debloated XT860: after boot, random applications do not load: some of them located on SD, some located in phone. It generally takes 3-5 reboots to have them all loaded, where each reboot shows different app in "loading" state forever. Usually it is stock camera, TB, Root Explorer, BSPlayer, tapatalk...
The only info I googled so forth is that this could be SD-card related, but as most of problematic apps are not on SD, it has to be something else...
What to do, pls?

I also have this issue although never with system apps like camera. I have no apps on SD card
Rooted xt860, debloated and overclocked to 1.1

So SD issue ruled out... the reason I am having an issue with camera might be because I use different one (other topic here - better blur camera or similar)

ya i know i spent all morning trying to make that apk run on my phone. Don't know how you did it but i just can't make it work

Endoroid said:
Don't know how you did it but i just can't make it work
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as U can see, not such a victory - as it refuses to load often... and that blue tint is still quite often there - going to post it into that proper topic..

i use camera ZOOM fx, seemed to fix the blue tint, although i didn't notice it much before. It's still slow though so i don't think any camera app is going to make our camera better, it must be firmware. All off topic i know.

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rooted and debloated XT860: after boot, random applications do not load: some of them located on SD, some located in phone. It generally takes 3-5 reboots to have them all loaded, where each reboot shows different app in "loading" state forever. Usually it is stock camera, TB, Root Explorer, BSPlayer, tapatalk...
The only info I googled so forth is that this could be SD-card related, but as most of problematic apps are not on SD, it has to be something else...
What to do, pls?
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having an identical issue.
Usually with root explorer, sometimes a game app or two, occasionally uber social.
Also a D3, rooted, de-bloated.
Where are the problem apps located for you, internal, external (media area) or SD card.
Also, do you use an app to SD app at all?

madrabbitt said:
having an identical issue.
Usually with root explorer, ...Where are the problem apps located for you, internal, external (media area) or SD card.
Also, do you use an app to SD app at all?
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as I sometime use "USB Mass Storage" mode, I moved all apps back to the internal storage.
My problem apps are:
- Stock Camera (on every first boot, this one is unavailable and I have to reboot 100% times)
- GO Task Manager widget, SIM Toolkit, Titanium Backup ... on second boot, these are often unavailable
- random apps (iReader, tapatalk, ....) these also sometimes disappear.