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[Q]GPS running in background, even when closed?

I've noticed something strange. When I start up my phone the process mem is about 50%. (using hardSpl 1.40 unsigned and SwiftBL 1.55)
After I start the gps up (tomtom 7) and then close it the memory goes up and stays at about 60%.
If I reboot the phone its back to 50%.
It seems that the gps is active somewhere in the background.
Is this an issue anyone else seems to have? And is there any way to terminate gps so it wont suck memory?

I wouldn't say it's the GPS still active, it could just be bad memory management by WM.

Does using Oxios Hibernate help?
I read an article about WMs memory management that stated that the OS doesn't claim back RAM until it's needed by other things.

I did try with oxios hibernate and it doesn't really seem to help. Seems that all programs used makes the memory amount used before starting it, bigger after closing it. Any solution for this? A soft reset (eg. rebooting) will make the memory normal but isn't there any better way?

Swap on a class 2 card worth it?

I've noticed that my G1 (Running CM6) tends to run out of RAM fairly often, I was thinking maybe having swap space might help me a bit with this, however I only have a Class 2 SDHC Card (16GB), would I see any performance increment or should I just wait until I can afford a much faster one? (eg. The Kingston Class 10 one)

I would suggest to use no swap at all ... if RAM is too low, try to enable compcache it will help you probably a bit. I noticed a massive performance drop when enabling swap on CM6.
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Swap and CM5/6 don't get along. The memory killer in the kernel thinks that swap is actually free RAM and keeps more things open, stopping tasks from being killed at all. If you want to use swap, I recommend you use a donut/cupcake/hero rom that uses a different kernel so that things don't get down to a screeching halt. And anyways, the fastest speed I have ever seen my phone write something from my computer to the phone via USB is 2.7mb/s, compared with 6-12mb/s I get from an sdcard reader. That means that even when your phone is writing at top speed, it is just barely far from the 2mb/s write speed guaranteed by a class 2. You will definately see better performance with swap on a class 4, but anything higher won't benefit your phone much at all, unless you regularly transfer large amounts of files to your memery card via a card reader.

AndDiSa said:
I would suggest to use no swap at all ... if RAM is too low, try to enable compcache it will help you probably a bit. I noticed a massive performance drop when enabling swap on CM6.
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Compcache didn't improve performance at all, for me at least.
mejorguille said:
Swap and CM5/6 don't get along. The memory killer in the kernel thinks that swap is actually free RAM and keeps more things open, stopping tasks from being killed at all. If you want to use swap, I recommend you use a donut/cupcake/hero rom that uses a different kernel so that things don't get down to a screeching halt. And anyways, the fastest speed I have ever seen my phone write something from my computer to the phone via USB is 2.7mb/s, compared with 6-12mb/s I get from an sdcard reader. That means that even when your phone is writing at top speed, it is just barely far from the 2mb/s write speed guaranteed by a class 2. You will definately see better performance with swap on a class 4, but anything higher won't benefit your phone much at all, unless you regularly transfer large amounts of files to your memery card via a card reader.
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What if I have a task killer app? Because running out of RAM is just as bad as having too much running...I don't have many apps as I only keep what I actually use as well.

I have to ask, what are you seeing as the symptom of "running out of ram" the system will always use all ram so it will always have nearly none free.
By this I of course mean what is taking forever from you the end users perspective.. from there we can tweek in the right direction or work on making the phone prioritize what is needed to be useful.
Many times people put tons of swap only to find the the problem application is still removed from ram/swap due to configuration and the system is even slower with swap.
Also before enabling swap try the settings -> adw -> system -> system persistent is enabled. (Or equivalent on other launchers)
If you really want to try swap, it wont be fast but in very little amounts

ezterry said:
I have to ask, what are you seeing as the symptom of "running out of ram" the system will always use all ram so it will always have nearly none free.
By this I of course mean what is taking forever from you the end users perspective.. from there we can tweek in the right direction or work on making the phone prioritize what is needed to be useful.
Many times people put tons of swap only to find the the problem application is still removed from ram/swap due to configuration and the system is even slower with swap.
Also before enabling swap try the settings -> adw -> system -> system persistent is enabled. (Or equivalent on other launchers)
If you really want to try swap, it wont be fast but in very little amounts
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Well, if I have MSN Talk open, the home screen tends to fall out of memory (Yeah, I have System persistent enabled) and Messaging is extremely slow (To the point where a letter appears a good second after I press the key), it's that kind of thing when I run certain programs, it makes it hard to have stuff like JuiceDefender running because I always run out of RAM even just running the Speedtest app then.

Switching app between internal and external SD

Anyone know if it's possible to switch on a app by app basis whether they should be using sdcard or sdcard2? I can't seem to find one in the settings, I'd like to move doggcatcher and someother apps that use large amounts of space to external SD instead of the internal storage.
Doing some searches I could find some stuff to swap them on a global basis but nothing on a app by app basis.
Thanks

msroest said:
Anyone know if it's possible to switch on a app by app basis whether they should be using sdcard or sdcard2? I can't seem to find one in the settings, I'd like to move doggcatcher and someother apps that use large amounts of space to external SD instead of the internal storage.
Doing some searches I could find some stuff to swap them on a global basis but nothing on a app by app basis.
Thanks
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The Vivid doesn't really differentiate between internal and external sd. the internal sd is /sdcard, and the external sd is simply a folder in that at /sdcard/ext_sd. So when you move an app to sd, it puts it in /sdcard. As far as I know, there is no way to specificy moving it to the external sd.

bjg222 said:
The Vivid doesn't really differentiate between internal and external sd. the internal sd is /sdcard, and the external sd is simply a folder in that at /sdcard/ext_sd. So when you move an app to sd, it puts it in /sdcard. As far as I know, there is no way to specificy moving it to the external sd.
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Is it just the Vivid, or is it the Anroid OS that does not provide the desired functionality for installing apps in internal or external storage? Along those lines, I noticed that the display settings are the same regardless of whether I am using the battery or AC power. My old WinMob HD2 could be set to stay on always on AC power but time out after x minutes on battery.

brucegil said:
Is it just the Vivid, or is it the Anroid OS that does not provide the desired functionality for installing apps in internal or external storage? Along those lines, I noticed that the display settings are the same regardless of whether I am using the battery or AC power. My old WinMob HD2 could be set to stay on always on AC power but time out after x minutes on battery.
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Having never had another phone w/ both internal & external storage abilities, I can't answer the first question. However, the second is possible. If you go to Settings > Applications > Development and check Stay Awake, it'll prevent the phone from sleeping when plugged in and keep the screen on, then it'll revert to what's set under Settings > Display when unplugged.

bjg222 said:
Having never had another phone w/ both internal & external storage abilities, I can't answer the first question. However, the second is possible. If you go to Settings > Applications > Development and check Stay Awake, it'll prevent the phone from sleeping when plugged in and keep the screen on, then it'll revert to what's set under Settings > Display when unplugged.
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Thanks. Found it. Stupid of me to think that controls affecting the display would be under the Display settings. It's so logical the 'stay awake while charging' setting is under applications/development.

[Q] Water Proof, Dust Resistance & SD Card

Hi
what will happen if teardown xperia z and then ensemble it?
i mean what will happen for water proof and dust resistance of it?
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does Xperia Z support app to sd card?

Disassembling the Xperia Z is nearly impossible. I've heard that service centers will just be swapping handsets instead of trying to repair them.
The Xperia Z does not support moving apps to SD, but you can use the whole 11GB of internal memory for apps.

Apps to sd app?
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Ambroos said:
Disassembling the Xperia Z is nearly impossible. I've heard that service centers will just be swapping handsets instead of trying to repair them.
The Xperia Z does not support moving apps to SD, but you can use the whole 11GB of internal memory for apps.
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it is bad news but cause u r currently use this device we must believe but any official solution for it instead of rooting and etc ?

This is from whitepaper of Xperia Z
about Sd card thr s nothing mention no suppost for app to sd card. just it says few apps can move to SD Card.
can anyone send screen shot from application manager of xperia Z to confirm about it?! 'please!'
""SD Card (known as “/ext_card” from a programmer’s point of view, or by other names in other Android
products) is the name for the removable SD memory card in all 2013 Sony Mobile products. As
described above, this External Card memory is generally more limited in that any application can READ
from it, but many applications cannot SAVE to this card. Only a few applications, including back-up
applications and file manger applications, has the capability to save to this card.""

Again, you have 11GB of internal memory for apps. Why would you need to move even more to SD?

Ambroos said:
Again, you have 11GB of internal memory for apps. Why would you need to move even more to SD?
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if i can move apps to sd card it means more internal storage for installing apps and etc.
however 11GB is large amount of storage but more is better

x102x96x said:
if i can move apps to sd card it means more internal storage for installing apps and etc.
however 11GB is large amount of storage but more is better
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it's like money...you can never have enough! :laugh:

x102x96x said:
Hi
what will happen if teardown xperia z and then ensemble it?
i mean what will happen for water proof and dust resistance of it?
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does Xperia Z support app to sd card?
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Your warranty will be void. Dust should be fine, but no guarantee of waterproofness, same as a watch when the battery is changed. (sir would you like to do a pressure test to ensure your watch is still waterproof, "me" No thanks because if you have done a bad job of changing the battery the pressure test will screw my watch, won't it? answer YES)
Why would you need app to sd? this is no HTC Desire, 2Gb plus the remainder internal ram is a lot. Would seriously hate to scroll through your app drawer on the phone, it would take hald an hour to find anything. I am sure that developers could offer you this if they could be bothered writing the code, for a couple of people.

if thr s ability to move app2sdcard it can help phone to work smoother and softer, and maybe thr s m.second delay to launch apps from sdcard but better to have more space and more CPU performance.
however stamina mode help to have enough RAM memory but still internal memory is issue.
but maybe sony launch 32GB version of XZ or android set move to sd for apps again

x102x96x said:
if thr s ability to move app2sdcard it can help phone to work smoother and softer, and maybe thr s m.second delay to launch apps from sdcard but better to have more space and more CPU performance.
however stamina mode help to have enough RAM memory but still internal memory is issue.
but maybe sony launch 32GB version of XZ or android set move to sd for apps again
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did i get something wrong in the past?!?!
stamina=for memory? thought it's an energy saving option halting background-processes when screen goes off, and resuming them when screen is turned on again?!
phone works smoother and softer with apps on sd instead of internal memory? always thought the internal memory is way faster than any sdcard?!?
apps on sdcard boosts cpu performance? didn't know that, too. why?

hebbe said:
did i get something wrong in the past?!?!
stamina=for memory? thought it's an energy saving option halting background-processes when screen goes off, and resuming them when screen is turned on again?!
phone works smoother and softer with apps on sd instead of internal memory? always thought the internal memory is way faster than any sdcard?!?
apps on sdcard boosts cpu performance? didn't know that, too. why?
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stamina is not for memory directly but when u turn off apps and don allow them to work in background it also will empty the ram memory.

x102x96x said:
stamina is not for memory directly but when u turn off apps and don allow them to work in background it also will empty the ram memory.
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but that's the point, i thought. they aren't turned off, they're just paused by the system. and resumed when screen is turned on again. but when halting them, and then freeing some memory, then they can't resume because the processes lost their data. then it would be merely a restart than a resume?!
or am i wrong?!?

hebbe said:
but that's the point, i thought. they aren't turned off, they're just paused by the system. and resumed when screen is turned on again. but when halting them, and then freeing some memory, then they can't resume because the processes lost their data. then it would be merely a restart than a resume?!
or am i wrong?!?
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for this what i said it s not important to pause or off, cause both action will save charge and release ram memory.
for example ram in samsung devices is almost full always cause they r running background to get quick access to most used apps but sometimes we see problem to load even home screens because of it.
but sony has better operation that release memory faster and automatically. and i guess stamina mode by turning off and pausing apps will do it better than before.

x102x96x said:
for this what i said it s not important to pause or off, cause both action will save charge and release ram memory.
for example ram in samsung devices is almost full always cause they r running background to get quick access to most used apps but sometimes we see problem to load even home screens because of it.
but sony has better operation that release memory faster and automatically. and i guess stamina mode by turning off and pausing apps will do it better than before.
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saving charge is pretty logical. but i still don't get the point why pausing a thread/process frees memory? so a thread doesn't need to be paused to free its memory, this can also happen during runtime! because on both cases - halted or running - the os can only free memory which isn't used anymore.

hebbe said:
saving charge is pretty logical. but i still don't get the point why pausing a thread/process frees memory? so a thread doesn't need to be paused to free its memory, this can also happen during runtime! because on both cases - halted or running - the os can only free memory which isn't used anymore.
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yeah but sometimes memory cannot be released when running in background
to understand it better check out the task manager of ur computer OS.

Ambroos said:
Disassembling the Xperia Z is nearly impossible. I've heard that service centers will just be swapping handsets instead of trying to repair them.
The Xperia Z does not support moving apps to SD, but you can use the whole 11GB of internal memory for apps.
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There is a Xperia Z Disassembly tutorial video on youtube. Just search it on youtube as "Xperia Z Disassebly"
But I've a doubt about the back cover.
If we can open the back cover by heating, then when the phone get so hot the back cover can slide or remove. Is it possible?

Redmi 9 3/32 - Questions

Hello. I have a question regarding my phone that is constantly running out of storage space and have to use cleaner almost daily. I would like to be able to install more games and other apps but I can't do that due to low internal storage space. I bought a sd card (32 GB) in the hope of installing or moving apps to It. Unfortunately I can't do either. I moved all other files to it but it's not enough.My phone is not rooted and no free program I have tried successed (thought rooting could help). Do I have to buy a new phone to get possibility of using more amount of apps or is there another way? If I have to buy a new phone, recommend me something please. I would like to get a phone with a comparable CPU and GPU or maybe better, at least 4GB+ and 64GB of internal storage or more. It has to be a budget phone but upgrade should be viable.

Hello, I'd like to asked to if you guys also experience this:
Whenever I try to maxxed out the volume and play something whether its a video or music, the phone just reboots right after.
Idk what happened but before I noticed those kind of stuff to happen in my Redmi 9. I just previously fixed it from bootloop w/o recovery & w/o fastboot due to downgrading from MIUI 13.0.5 CN ROM to MIUI 11.0.4 GLOBAL ROM.
So I was wondering whether it was a software issue or hardware issue in this case the battery. Idk if someone had ever tried this but I've watched a similar problem got fixed in youtube w/ Redmi Note 9 instead
with soldering or reheating the fuse within the battery.

TYPICALHUMAN said:
Hello. I have a question regarding my phone that is constantly running out of storage space and have to use cleaner almost daily. I would like to be able to install more games and other apps but I can't do that due to low internal storage space. I bought a sd card (32 GB) in the hope of installing or moving apps to It. Unfortunately I can't do either. I moved all other files to it but it's not enough.My phone is not rooted and no free program I have tried successed (thought rooting could help). Do I have to buy a new phone to get possibility of using more amount of apps or is there another way? If I have to buy a new phone, recommend me something please. I would like to get a phone with a comparable CPU and GPU or maybe better, at least 4GB+ and 64GB of internal storage or more. It has to be a budget phone but upgrade should be viable.
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Before, Android can still do that transfering apps + associated data to the sd card iirc it was Jellybean. Lol
But right now you can still do that but i think you need some root access correct me if im wrong. Though that is still not advisable cause accessing those apps would be much more slower or rather laggy than installing your apps within the internal storage.
One way to not run out internal storage is to transfer all "passive/static" files like photos/music/videos to your sdcard. The ones that are left for your internal storage should be the apps only that is if you want to install more apps in your device. Also you can set where the files should be saved everytime you take photo or video or download files, and set them to sdcard.