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hello every body
first thanks for your great efforts , I am seeking your help again plzzzzz.....
I had droid 3 and stolen from 2 days ago I live in Egypt with GSM network , My Droid 3 unlocked was working perfect here) , now i will get a new mobile , I guess it will be Droid 4 as extend for my beloved stolen phone
When I was looking for it on eBay and Amazon I became so confused , as I found
1-Version Droid 4 locked
2-Unlocked Droid 4
3-Unlocked Droid 4 international use
Now my question is which one will work with my local GSM ? please note that a big price diffident between unlocked and locked one , the locked one is more more cheaper , if I buy the locked can I locked it and works perfect with GSM or have I buy unlocked one ?
Thanks in advance
AFAIK they are all the same. If it has ICS it is unlocked for international use. If it still has Gingerbread, I think you can still upgrade to ICS using WiFi.
StevePritchard said:
AFAIK they are all the same. If it has ICS it is unlocked for international use. If it still has Gingerbread, I think you can still upgrade to ICS using WiFi.
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So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
is that what you meant ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
ivanol84 said:
So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
is that what you meant ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
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Thanks again.
StevePritchard said:
AFAIK they are all the same. If it has ICS it is unlocked for international use. If it still has Gingerbread, I think you can still upgrade to ICS using WiFi.
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So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
So, the first one i have to get right ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
ivanol84 said:
So no need to buy unlocked high price one ? i will buy Version Droid 4 and update it into ICS
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Dr...1004039173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27d0a29005
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
So, the first one i have to get right ?
sorry for being annoying but i have to be sure before buy it
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Well for one. If u haven't noticed the first one is only bid. On used! The second one is new and buy it now. And they are both the same as stated befor ics is unlocked
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thanks agian for your replay , for the first link its not used one its new , i know its in bid but here is another one buy now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-V...0991335425?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item257bd4d401
so why its about 150$ price differant with this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
ivanol84 said:
thanks agian for your replay , for the first link its not used one its new , i know its in bid but here is another one buy now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-V...0991335425?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item257bd4d401
so why its about 150$ price differant with this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
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There's no international shipping on your first option. If I were buying one today, I'd probably go for one of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTOROLA-...0878227538?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43b9b18452
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-...0887620684?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4d0a70684c
Cheers,
Steve.
dont worry about international shipping as a friend of mine in USA and will come to Egypt after 1 week , so my question is still here why this big differenced in price between my 2 prevoius llinks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNLOCKED-NE...0884590003?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item35c1cb41b3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-V...0991335425?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item257bd4d401
The only lock on the Droid 4 is that you cannot use it on American GSM carriers, i.e. T-Mobile USA and AT&T. This lock is irrelevant to you as you are in Egypt, unless you intend to travel to the USA and use this phone.
The unlocked one is being sold by Devices Now. It is possible that they have found somewhat to unlock it for US GSM, though if they have they aren't sharing it with these forums. They are a pretty good seller as they were one of the first to offer this phone pre-flashed to ICS for people wanting to use it on GSM.
That said, if you are happy enough with flashing the phone to ICS yourself, and don't intend to use it in the USA, go ahead and get the cheaper one.
thanks a lot Lum_Uk , but is the flashing is just updating the phone to ICS ? I mean when i bought the cheaper one just i need to update it via wire wireless or i have to do something else ?
ivanol84 said:
thanks a lot Lum_Uk , but is the flashing is just updating the phone to ICS ? I mean when i bought the cheaper one just i need to update it via wire wireless or i have to do something else ?
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To flash ICS all u need is the phone and a wire to connect it to your computer (and possibly a sd card).
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Yes just updating it to ICS, though many people have found that the OTA update doesn't always work, so have to flash it the hard way
Full instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766479
Just a little update for everybody here. Just because a Droid 4 has Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean doesn't mean it's already unlocked for GSM or international use. Having an Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean ROM means that the phone is ABLE to be unlocked from the carrier. The phone DOES NOT come unlocked with each ROM. You have to call Verizon to get an unlock code or pay for an unlock code through one of the measly online websites. I have much experience with this as I was in the Army for a while and took my US Android phone to Iraq and Kuwait with me. You have to put an unlock code into the device for it to be unlocked. Therefore...I would purchase a Droid 4 that has been unlocked previously. You can tell when you put a different SIM card into the phone,it will ask you for the unlock code or tell you the device is unlocked. Just wanted to clarify that for everybody.
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Just a little update for everybody here. Just because a Droid 4 has Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean doesn't mean it's already unlocked for GSM or international use. Having an Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean ROM means that the phone is ABLE to be unlocked from the carrier. The phone DOES NOT come unlocked with each ROM. You have to call Verizon to get an unlock code or pay for an unlock code through one of the measly online websites
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Sorry but this is complete rubbish. It may be true for other phones, but the Verizon Droid 4, once flashed to ICS or JB, will work internationally without any codes, custom ROMs or hacking.
My Droid 4 has never even seen the Verizon network, and I don't have an account with Verizon and no way to contact them to get a code. It just works.
Plenty of others in the same situation on this forum, loads of us are using it on GSM without having to get Verizon's permission.
^^ Truth! There is no SIM lock on any VZW Motorola LTE capable device.
The last Verizon Motorola global device to have a SIM lock was the Droid3, which was a CDMA/EVDO/GSM/UMTS global device.
PS4AndroidHacker said:
Just a little update for everybody here. Just because a Droid 4 has Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean doesn't mean it's already unlocked for GSM or international use. Having an Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean ROM means that the phone is ABLE to be unlocked from the carrier. The phone DOES NOT come unlocked with each ROM. You have to call Verizon to get an unlock code or pay for an unlock code through one of the measly online websites. I have much experience with this as I was in the Army for a while and took my US Android phone to Iraq and Kuwait with me. You have to put an unlock code into the device for it to be unlocked. Therefore...I would purchase a Droid 4 that has been unlocked previously. You can tell when you put a different SIM card into the phone,it will ask you for the unlock code or tell you the device is unlocked. Just wanted to clarify that for everybody.
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Lum_UK said:
Sorry but this is complete rubbish. It may be true for other phones, but the Verizon Droid 4, once flashed to ICS or JB, will work internationally without any codes, custom ROMs or hacking.
My Droid 4 has never even seen the Verizon network, and I don't have an account with Verizon and no way to contact them to get a code. It just works.
Plenty of others in the same situation on this forum, loads of us are using it on GSM without having to get Verizon's permission.
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Hahaha schooled! Not trying to be mean but its generally smart to know what your talking about before u spew bullish out of your mouth and look like an idiot. As lum stated droid 4 isn't locked to Verizon or any carrier. Through build prop tweaks it does work very nicely at that.
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Should probably add, since they are in Ohio, that GSM is locked out for US carriers. This isn't locked out with an unlock code but at the firmware level. So far nobody has broken that and unlock codes don't exist. There's a big sticky at the top of the forum with the current progress in dealing with this problem.
Hi there guys, was wondering if I was to purchase an AT&T HTC One 64gb developers edition from the US to use in the UK would it work with my UK t-mobile sim or would I need to root the phone?
Also how easy is it to root the htc one, I rooted my htc sensation is it easier than that??
Thanks
I 'think' that if you r00t it you will unlock it also, I might be wrong though and I can't remember if that's right or not.
Look up on 'debranding', to see if rooting will help you on that.
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For a rooting guide see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Thx for the speedy reply, yeah dont mind rooting the device but just wanted to be sure that that would actually work on a US AT&T version of the htc one in the UK with a t-mobile sim? Has anyone already tried this?
thanks
Nonononono. Rooting does not SIM unlock your phone. Unlocking your bootloader does not SIM unlock your phone. SIM unlocking your phone, however, does.
If you purchase the AT&T model from AT&T, you will be SIM locked and will either A) have to sweet talk them into unlocking it or B) Pay someone to unlock it(there's a great thread of resources for that in the General section). If you purchase the Developers Edition(or any edition) from HTC, it will already be SIM unlocked and should work just fine on any GSM network in the world. There is no AT&T Developers Edition.
EDIT: As far as the difficulty goes, it's pretty easy to root the HTC One. There's a couple of annoying steps you have to repeat before the process is done(i.e. flashing recovery/rebooting several times until it sticks)
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Nonononono. Rooting does not SIM unlock your phone. Unlocking your bootloader does not SIM unlock your phone. SIM unlocking your phone, however, does.
If you purchase the AT&T model from AT&T, you will be SIM locked and will either A) have to sweet talk them into unlocking it or B) Pay someone to unlock it(there's a great thread of resources for that in the General section). If you purchase the Developers Edition(or any edition) from HTC, it will already be SIM unlocked and should work just fine on any GSM network in the world. There is no AT&T Developers Edition.
EDIT: As far as the difficulty goes, it's pretty easy to root the HTC One. There's a couple of annoying steps you have to repeat before the process is done(i.e. flashing recovery/rebooting several times until it sticks)
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I'm pretty sure that you can Sim unlock yourself once you're rooted.
Never done it myself however so might be wrong.
The-Last-Hylian said:
I'm pretty sure that you can Sim unlock yourself once you're rooted.
Never done it myself however so might be wrong.
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Not on the HTC One, no.
At least, no one has discovered a way to do it. This is XDA we're talking about here, where there's a will there's a hack.
Ah guys, thanks so much for the replies, I'll wait for a developers edition to turn up on ebay. This all came up because I'm tired of waiting for the 64gb version in the UK (if it ever arrives???) and it looks like its cheaper to import from the US (even with import charges).....
I take it the Developer Unlocked Edition just comes with stock android with HTC sense 5 ui???
Thanks again
arvindsond said:
Ah
I take it the Developer Unlocked Edition just comes with stock android with HTC sense 5 ui???
Thanks again
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yes it does;
This special HTC One® Developer Edition comes with: 64GB of onboard memory, SIM unlocked and has an unlocked bootloader. Compatible on these frequencies:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
It doesn't have an unlocked bootloader, it has an unlockable bootloader. Just like every other network version of the phone has apart from AT&T. That is why HTC are selling it. Also a phone can be sim unlocked without the phone being rooted, as it is completely different. Unlocking the bootloader and then rooting it, wont sim unlock the phone, it will just allow the user to run unauthorized roms etc. Also if you got an AT&T phone from them, you wouldn't get OTA's from HTC they would come from AT&T as the CID wouldn't be a HTC one.
OK guys thanks for the replies, but now this is slightly confusing, so just to be crystal clear if I was to purchase a HTC One 64gb Developers edition from the US to the UK, and rooted it and installed my own rom etc, would this work in the UK or would I need to root the phone and sim unlock it aswell, or will rooting the phone do that for me anyway.....apologies for all the questions, just want to be sure as I've on;y ever rooted my HTC Sensation
Thanks again
arvindsond said:
OK guys thanks for the replies, but now this is slightly confusing, so just to be crystal clear if I was to purchase a HTC One 64gb Developers edition from the US to the UK, and rooted it and installed my own rom etc, would this work in the UK or would I need to root the phone and sim unlock it aswell, or will rooting the phone do that for me anyway.....apologies for all the questions, just want to be sure as I've on;y ever rooted my HTC Sensation
Thanks again
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OK to clarify - the HTC One DEVELOPERS EDITION will work on any UK network without any tinkering/rooting etc as it is SIM unlocked.
Any other USA model will be SIM locked and you will need to pay about £20 to get it unlocked for (UK) SIM cards. This has nothing to do with Rooting or which Rom you use. Stock will be fine.
2/3G should work, 4G won't tho
Great thanks for clearing that up guys
Hi guys, new question about something similar.....just seen a htc one that interests me, but the guy is saying it's AT&T Unlocked and will work in the UK.....is that even possible?
Thanks
arvindsond said:
Hi guys, new question about something similar.....just seen a htc one that interests me, but the guy is saying it's AT&T Unlocked and will work in the UK.....is that even possible?
Thanks
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That depends, you see, i have an HTC ONE - US international version, but in my country 3G works in 900mhz, and the factory unlocked i have has 850mhz so im stuck without 3G. In England they use 900mhz so i would need one from there, and yours, which is the same as mine only locked to ATT, will not work on 3G in UK, since they are 900mhz. 2G will work there btw.
I'm a bit confused after reading.
I have an account with Ting using an old iPhone 4 (3g). The iPhone was free so I figured I'd give it a shot. I do not like it.
I'd like to get a decent Android phone - I had a Thunderbolt, and through work I have a One X, so I have already invested in my favorite apps. But work phone is not for personal use so I need my own phone too. I like Titanium Backup so root would of course be needed.
I was thinking of the One M7 but - here is the actual question - I sometimes travel overseas, and would like to be able to pop in a SIM card and have hassle-free personal communications when in Europe or India, I'm not sure if this is possible with the One M7.
Or should I just buy a Nexus 5 and be done with it?
Your advice is greatly appreciated.
OK, with some more Google-fu I have answered my question (it could work).
Now I have to figure out if Sprint will SIM-unlock a used phone for me if I'm on Ting.
ModemJunki said:
OK, with some more Google-fu I have answered my question (it could work).
Now I have to figure out if Sprint will SIM-unlock a used phone for me if I'm on Ting.
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I'm not sure if they will but all u have to do is s-off them revert to android 4.1.2 and use the sim unlock tool and u can get sim unlocked your self
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Hi -
I'm a bit hard pressed for time here. Will need to order a 32gb variant of the nexus 6 via ATT. The phone will be used in India, so it will be purchased upfront from ATT and unlocked.
My only question is - Will I be able to:
1. Root [I'm guessing yes]
2. Flash custom recovery [i'm guessing yes]
3. Can all traces of ATT crap be removed? [who wants that anyway?]
4. Install custom kernels / roms like PA / CM etc etc [Unclear about this]
If not, is there any other carrier service that can help me In basically converting their network locked phone into what google sells?
Can someone confirm this?
Thanks in advance.
Have you by chance.......
Glanced or read a single thread in here? I'm not trying to be rude, but this is a Nexus and every question is covered by spending three minutes looking in here or going to google.
Unfortunately the Nexus 6 is bootloader locked, encrypted, not rooted and filled with AT&T bloat. Google gave into the carriers demand for control.
I suggest buying a Note 4.
kdoggy said:
Unfortunately the Nexus 6 is bootloader locked, encrypted, not rooted and filled with AT&T bloat. Google gave into the carriers demand for control.
I suggest buying a Note 4.
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That's just mean. Haha.
I'm really sorry if it's been asked a ton of times before. I'm not the guy who keeps asking the same questions again and again. But I'm hard pressed for time at the moment. And I'm working out of a limited internet connectivity environment. It would be very helpful if someone could please answer concisely to the point. As long is I'm able to flash customs stuff, I'm all good!
TIA
kdoggy said:
Unfortunately the Nexus 6 is bootloader locked, encrypted, not rooted and filled with AT&T bloat. Google gave into the carriers demand for control.
I suggest buying a Note 4.
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Your siggy seems to suggest otherwise
blueren said:
I'm really sorry if it's been asked a ton of times before. I'm not the guy who keeps asking the same questions again and again. But I'm hard pressed for time at the moment. And I'm working out of a limited internet connectivity environment. It would be very helpful if someone could please answer concisely to the point. As long is I'm able to flash customs stuff, I'm all good!
TIA
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AT&T is carrier Sim locked, try sprint or T-Mobile. The are not Sim locked
hlxanthus said:
AT&T is carrier Sim locked, try sprint or T-Mobile. The are not Sim locked
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Thanks for this.
I'm ok with just about any carrier just as long as i'm able to root and flash like a boss!
Is this the one you're talking about?
http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...bleId=MOTXT1103KIT&flow=AAL&isDeeplinked=true
blueren said:
Thanks for this.
I'm ok with just about any carrier just as long as i'm able to root and flash like a boss!
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A nexus is a nexus is a nexus. Yes you can unlock the boot loader, yes you can root, flash etc etc.
1. Buy the phone from any carrier
2. Remove any bloat (its simple)
3. Spend an additional $9.99 to unlock Sim
4. Take two minutes to look at the nexus 6 forums, I highly encourage exploratory learning
Enjoy.
I purchased the phone for $250 US from AT&T (extended current contract 2 more years), received it 16 November. I'm on truly un-throttled data (Cingular wireless grandfathered). Rooted, unlocked, no bloat (to include logo) and I'm good to go.
Lastly do me a favor, do not believe the hype about "OMG it's a sprint/T-Mobile/att purchased phone, I'm screwed" because its not from google or moto. Spend 10 bucks, sim unlock and save yourself from all the preconceived notions you'll hear lots of people yap about.
Sent from my Nexus 6
swiftchancelor said:
A nexus is a nexus is a nexus. Yes you can unlock the boot loader, yes you can root, flash etc etc.
1. Buy the phone from any carrier
2. Remove any bloat (its simple)
3. Spend an additional $9.99 to unlock Sim
4. Take two minutes to look at the nexus 6 forums, I highly encourage exploratory learning
Enjoy.
I purchased the phone for $250 US from AT&T (extended current contract 2 more years), received it 16 November. I'm on truly un-throttled data (Cingular wireless grandfathered). Rooted, unlocked, no bloat (to include logo) and I'm good to go.
Lastly do me a favor, do not believe the hype about "OMG it's a sprint/T-Mobile/att purchased phone, I'm screwed" because its not from google or moto. Spend 10 bucks, sim unlock and save yourself from all the preconceived notions you'll hear lots of people yap about.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Thanks. I've always jumped from one Nexus to another. But have never purchased or used one from one of the US based carriers. (I'm not gonna use it the US anyway) My only jitter was that it should be completely flashable .. especially because I don't want to be stuck with a dead phone half way around the world.
On the same note -- Sim unlocking -- Is that necessary? Since I won't be using a Tmobile / att / sprint sim at all. I'll be using a Vodafone IN sim that works in my country
blueren said:
Thanks. I've always jumped from one Nexus to another. But have never purchased or used one from one of the US based carriers. (I'm not gonna use it the US anyway) My only jitter was that it should be completely flashable .. especially because I don't want to be stuck with a dead phone half way around the world.
On the same note -- Sim unlocking -- Is that necessary? Since I won't be using a Tmobile / att / sprint sim at all. I'll be using a Vodafone IN sim that works in my country
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If you purchase the phone from ATT you will have to Sim unlock in order to use the Sim from your country.
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alright well I've been off the nexus game for a while and thinking about getting back in, specially because Verizon now supports it and has it again. First off yes its unlockable and custom recovery from what I've heard - next is, are the ROMs all phone specific or is there only one version of the Nexus 6 and thats VZW, or unlocked or whatever you get its all the same and any rom works the same? Silly question sorry.
There are 2 hardware versions of the nexus 6. North America and international. They all can use the same ROMs and radios.
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alright well I've been off the nexus game for a while and thinking about getting back in, specially because Verizon now supports it and has it again. First off yes its unlockable and custom recovery from what I've heard - next is, are the ROMs all phone specific or is there only one version of the Nexus 6 and thats VZW, or unlocked or whatever you get its all the same and any rom works the same? Silly question sorry.
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any US bought nexus 6 is exactly the same, regardless where you bought it. any nexus 6 rom/kernel will run on it. there isnt such a thing as a carrier specific rom for a nexus.