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nandroid backup issue and apps2sd question

1) So I went to run nandroid backup and it's saying
"Performing backup."
"Error running nandroid backup. Backup not performed."
That's all it says, and takes me back to the recovery screen...
I'm assuming this has to do potentially with the storage on my SD Card... any suggestions?
I am running Cyanogen 4.0.4 w/ Enoch v1.3
2) is there any way to roll back from Apps2SD so that Apps2SD stops working? Is it just as simple as re-partitioning the SD as FAT32 and move along? will cyanogen move the apps liek before? or should I reflash at that point?
thanks a bit of a newb, finally signed up here as I've been floating around a bit...
thanks in advance... Also I did search the forum, in hope someone had the issues I did, but found nothing...

Could this be due to the partition of the SD card for apps2sd??!
just curious.. since that's the only thing I've changed since my last nandroid backup...

crizznaig said:
Could this be due to the partition of the SD card for apps2sd??!
just curious.. since that's the only thing I've changed since my last nandroid backup...
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yes, that might be it. you may have corrupted your nandroid files somehow or just plain lost them. i hope you were smart enough to do a complete sd back up onto your computer before doing any partitioning.
if you did a full back up onto your computer you should have a nandroid folder in there. drag and drop that nandroid folder onto your sd card after you delete the current one that is on your sd card. then do a restore.

I DEFINITELY made backups... my time as a unix admin, has taught me the necessity of backups lol...
so probably safest to :
a) reformat my sd card back to fat32
b) copy nandroid backup
c) restore
or
a) reformat sd card back to fat32
b) wipe
c) reflash CM 4.0.4
d) create a new nandroid backup
which is the best option?

crizznaig said:
I DEFINITELY made backups... my time as a unix admin, has taught me the necessity of backups lol...
so probably safest to :
a) reformat my sd card back to fat32
b) copy nandroid backup
c) restore
or
a) reformat sd card back to fat32
b) wipe
c) reflash CM 4.0.4
d) create a new nandroid backup
which is the best option?
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try the first method. if it doesn't work, just do the second since that is the only leftover option, lol. good to know you made backups .

hey Opasha... thanks for the suggestions on fixing this, I opted for route number 2 as it seemed the freshest, and i had some spare time to get everything set the way I wanted... and was able to complete a successful nandroid backup now...
So thanks again for the help!
and yes...
it NEVER hurts to back it up lol

[QUOTEit NEVER hurts to back it up lol[/QUOTE]
haha unless your freak dancing with a big girl hahahahaha.

oshizzle1991 said:
it NEVER hurts to back it up lol
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haha unless your freak dancing with a big girl hahahahaha.
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I rofl'd lol cause it's so true lol

oshizzle1991 said:
it NEVER hurts to back it up lol
haha unless your freak dancing with a big girl hahahahaha.
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lmao. unless "your" grammar is so ****ed you've made a tit of yourself...

Backup EVERYTHING?

Okay, I have SEARCHED XDA & SEARCHED GOOGLE and read probably close to thousands of posts trying to find the answer... maybe I just missed it but I tried...
I am thinking of moving from CM 4.0.4 to JacHERO... (no commenct please about possible move from CM it has nothing to do with the recent C&D) but I am afraid to wipe SD CARD & start fresh with everything...
Does NANDROID backup everything? Meaning does it COMPLETELY backup not just the OS but all the partitions on the SDHC card? (i.e. FAT32 & ext2 & ext3)?? I dont think it does from what I can tell & have read...
What I want to be able to do is wipe everything clean, install HERO, clean, if I totally hate it or its too slow for me or what not, I want to be able to restore what I had running...
please no comments on how hero is better or how CM is better etc...

I would suggest you do a search for switchrom or switchrom.sh
That should be what you're looking for.
HTH

search for the Q&A section?
Nandroid backs up all you need that if you get a bootloop for some reason you can just restore it and your good...... next time post in the proper place
P.S.- why are you afraid of wiping your SD card that would be a lot easier?

Switchrom.sh or Bart
Switchrom is good, but doesnt backup the entire ext3 partition. If complete EXT3 backup is what you seek, see BART (Backup and Recovery Tool).
Have fun and read lots!

emilj said:
Okay, I have SEARCHED XDA & SEARCHED GOOGLE and read probably close to thousands of posts trying to find the answer... maybe I just missed it but I tried...
I am thinking of moving from CM 4.0.4 to JacHERO... (no commenct please about possible move from CM it has nothing to do with the recent C&D) but I am afraid to wipe SD CARD & start fresh with everything...
Does NANDROID backup everything? Meaning does it COMPLETELY backup not just the OS but all the partitions on the SDHC card? (i.e. FAT32 & ext2 & ext3)?? I dont think it does from what I can tell & have read...
What I want to be able to do is wipe everything clean, install HERO, clean, if I totally hate it or its too slow for me or what not, I want to be able to restore what I had running...
please no comments on how hero is better or how CM is better etc...
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If you want to back up your SDCARD, you need to plug it into your computer (can be through phone when phone is in "mount" mode) and run this command:
dd if=/dev/sdcarddevice | gzip -9 > /some/place/to/make/backup.gz
You can NOT make a backup of the sdcard from your phone OS since 1) phone internal storage is not nearly sufficient, 2) backing up the sdcard TO the sdcard is retarded and doesn't accomplish anything.
My suggestion;
first do a nandroid backup to backup the phone internal storage to the sdcard, then backup the sdcard. Then you have everything no matter what.

On more bit of complication...
I currently have fat32 & ext2 BUT no swap setup on my SDHC card....
I would need to wipe the card & re-partition it so that I can have swap.
BART looks like the key, but will it re-partition the sdhc card too?? It says BART backs up the ext partitions but doesnt say anything about the partitions...

This is not development related. Next time, please keep your questions within the Q&A forum. Moved.

lbcoder said:
If you want to back up your SDCARD, you need to plug it into your computer (can be through phone when phone is in "mount" mode) and run this command:
dd if=/dev/sdcarddevice | gzip -9 > /some/place/to/make/backup.gz
You can NOT make a backup of the sdcard from your phone OS since 1) phone internal storage is not nearly sufficient, 2) backing up the sdcard TO the sdcard is retarded and doesn't accomplish anything.
My suggestion;
first do a nandroid backup to backup the phone internal storage to the sdcard, then backup the sdcard. Then you have everything no matter what.
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You read between the lines for me thank you... the point was to backup to a computer (obviously I cant backup 5gb to the remaining 3gb on my card )
I ran SU first & tried the command you gave me & I got this error:
dd: can't open '/dev/sdcarddevice': No such file or directory
Which makes sense if I am running it in "mounted" mode because the SD card is no longer visible to the OS.... right?

I currently have fat32 & ext2 BUT no swap setup on my SDHC card....
I would need to wipe the card & re-partition it so that I can have swap.
BART looks like the key, but will it re-partition the sdhc card too?? It says BART backs up the ext partitions but doesnt say anything about the partitions...
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Yeah Bart isnt the way to go to repartition your SDcard, if you have the 1.4 cyanogen recovery you can do the repartitioning from the recovery console, a basic search can provide you with many guides on how to do something like this, hope this helps

stefan.buddle said:
Yeah Bart isnt the way to go to repartition your SDcard, if you have the 1.4 cyanogen recovery you can do the repartitioning from the recovery console, a basic search can provide you with many guides on how to do something like this, hope this helps
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Okay, I'm not totaly newb if I sound like it...
I can repartition my card no problem... I was looking for a backup tool that would restore ALL partitions & ALL data if I was to wipe the OS & wipe the card & start fresh...
Theoretically backup to a PC... I can load up a Linux build if I need to... the "DD" was a good idea... would this be a good solution to load up linux to a "DD" combined with a Nandroid backup? Again, would I have to repartition my card back to the way it was?

emilj said:
You read between the lines for me thank you... the point was to backup to a computer (obviously I cant backup 5gb to the remaining 3gb on my card )
I ran SU first & tried the command you gave me & I got this error:
dd: can't open '/dev/sdcarddevice': No such file or directory
Which makes sense if I am running it in "mounted" mode because the SD card is no longer visible to the OS.... right?
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#1: you don't run this on your phone, you run it on your COMPUTER.
#1a: when you set your phone to "mount", it is not actually mounting. That is what happens on your computer (if you so choose), AFTER putting the phone into its mode where it is mountable and after the computer detects the device. They really should call it "mass storage mode" or something that isn't strictly incorrect.
#2: you need to use some brains in running a command.
#2a: DON'T EVER just do stuff you see online. *ALWAYS* research the commands and understand what they do before you run them. Otherwise you *WILL* eventually do something stupid, like "for FILE in /dev/sd?; do dd if=/dev/zero of=$FILE; done", which will wipe every single bit of information in all of your hard disks with zeros. In this case, the command I suggested will do no damage, but you didn't know that...
#2b: There is no such device as /dev/sdcarddevice. This is intended (following #2a) that you replace it with what makes sense ON YOUR SYSTEM, i.e. "sdcarddevice" is variable and will change depending on when/how you attached the device and what other devices are already there. Same with the /some/path/to/etc

lbcoder said:
#1: you don't run this on your phone, you run it on your COMPUTER.
#1a: when you set your phone to "mount", it is not actually mounting. That is what happens on your computer (if you so choose), AFTER putting the phone into its mode where it is mountable and after the computer detects the device. They really should call it "mass storage mode" or something that isn't strictly incorrect.
#2: you need to use some brains in running a command.
#2a: DON'T EVER just do stuff you see online. *ALWAYS* research the commands and understand what they do before you run them. Otherwise you *WILL* eventually do something stupid, like "for FILE in /dev/sd?; do dd if=/dev/zero of=$FILE; done", which will wipe every single bit of information in all of your hard disks with zeros. In this case, the command I suggested will do no damage, but you didn't know that...
#2b: There is no such device as /dev/sdcarddevice. This is intended (following #2a) that you replace it with what makes sense ON YOUR SYSTEM, i.e. "sdcarddevice" is variable and will change depending on when/how you attached the device and what other devices are already there. Same with the /some/path/to/etc
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Gee thanks... I thought you were giving me a command that I wasnt aware of...
So the bottom line is that I am still where I started, is there any way to backup the OS & all partitions to my computer that I can restore if necessary??

So something like imaging the sdcard like winhex, and a nandroid or switchrom should be fine. I'll be trying this soon. I need to learn more about the ins and outs first. Please let me know what you find or how u get this to work for u. With dd or whatever. Thanks.

you are making this WAY too complicated, make a nandroid, use BART, move the files over to your computer by dragging and dropping. then do whatever horror you want to do to your phone. if it messes up, then make your partitions again using parted in the recovery console. restore the contents of your sdcard from your computer to your sdcard, restore your nandroid. ta-da
it is not hard to backup your ext3, it is even simpler to backup your fat32. stop over thinking all of this and search a little next time.

You fail, please try again

Yeah makes sence now that I think about it, partitioning the sdcard was pretty ez. I'm just gonna repartition to include a swap and keep that setup for everything and BART the rest. Sometimes I just don't see the answers right away until they are pointed out to me lol sry .....I failed again.

Opps, some how ended up in this topic by mistake

How to recover apps after an ext wipe

hey guys, since your apps are saved in the ext, after you wipe them for a full wipe ROM, what program do you use to get them back?
I am looking for a program (preferably free) which will let me save then recover my apps, if possible it would be sweet if it had like a batch mode where it could mass recover all the "ticked" apps or something.
Thanks for any help finding such a program. I looked a little bit but only found one pay app which did this.
Once again thx for any help!

You can't recover them once you wipe it, if you format a flash drive everything on it is gone forever.
I would suggest you make a nandroid or bart then take the apps of them and you can install them again.

1) arent there apps that save all apps on the sd then recover them from sd (fat32 partition)
2)I have always wondered what exactly is the bart and under what circumstances would i make a backup of it and what circumstances would i recover it?

asb123 said:
1) arent there apps that save all apps on the sd then recover them from sd (fat32 partition)
2)I have always wondered what exactly is the bart and under what circumstances would i make a backup of it and what circumstances would i recover it?
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1) They backup the apps before you wipe
2) Bart and Nand are both on your SD's FAT32 partition.You can put in on your computer to salvage the apps when ever you want.

1) yeah, those r the apps i am talking about. Do you know any that would fit the above criteria?
2) I know all about nandorid ( i use it to jump around ROMS all the time) whats a bart back up do, is it an alternate nandroid or does it have its own function.

asb123 said:
1) yeah, those r the apps i am talking about. Do you know any that would fit the above criteria?
2) I know all about nandorid ( i use it to jump around ROMS all the time) whats a bart back up do, is it an alternate nandroid or does it have its own function.
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Bart includes nandroid but also backs up the ext partition. If you use Bart before you wipe and install another rom, you will have your programs setup exactly like they were when you restore back to your original rom.
You can backup just the apps off the ext and put them back after you load the new rom. I am not sure about at batch install.

Mybackup and there are probably some others in the market.Root explorer might allow you to copy files.

Question about Nandroid and Apps2sd...

I've been running Apps2sd for quite a while, and have made a lot of nandroid +ext backups while I was using it. I've decided that I actually don't need apps2sd, so I repartitioned my SD card. What will happen if I try to restore one of my nand +ext backups now that I don't have that ext partition on my sd card???

good question... probably an error code.

bump...anyone?
I'm in the process of re-flashing and re-configuring my phone now so I can't try it yet

Just try it and find out. It shouldn't hurt anything.

mrcharlesiv said:
Just try it and find out. It shouldn't hurt anything.
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I'm going to once I finish configuring and make a nand backup of what I'm running now. Just wasn't sure if anyone had experienced this and knew what would happen.

Looks like it restores just fine, but locks up at boot screen...
Oh well, guess I can't use any of my nand backups

Have u tried deleting the ext2.tar file in your nandroid backups? Try that and see if it boots all the way.
All I can think of is, download titanium backup or something, backup all your apps using it. and then try doing a nand restore with the .tar file removed. See if that fixes the boot problem.
Edit: Save the .tar file because you can always open it with a program like 7-zip and pull out the "app" and "app-private" folders, then push them onto your phone with adb

Back up Nook Color after rooting?

So, after yesterday's "authentication error" and reset, I've got this thing all back to the way I want it. Now, my question is... what do I need to do to back it up, so I can restore it should this happen again? I've got Titanium Backup on it, but I want to be sure I'm doing the best option to get me a good restore later on.
Thanks, Lori

Boot back into Clockwork Recovery... and create a backup. From there, you should be good.

What do you mean "back into Clockwork Recovery?" I used AutoNooter 3.0, if that matters.

"backup" is subjective... You could go all out and put a small CWM image on a 32 gig card, boot it up and hit ADB then DD the internal storage into an image on the SD card... but that is likely excessive.
A better idea would be to install the CWM the Cyanogen authors created or use some SD bootable CWM and use it to make a nandroid backup.

Thanks again. Is there some place that explains what all this means, 'cause I have no idea what Nandroid is or what DD stands for or what any of that means.

loribuono said:
Thanks again. Is there some place that explains what all this means, 'cause I have no idea what Nandroid is or what DD stands for or what any of that means.
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Nandroid Backup - full backup image of the OS from the internal nand (nand+android=nandroid, cute, huh?) flash nand memory. Think of it as an .iso image.
CRW-Clockwork Recovery. It's a custom recovery tool that allows you to do various things like backup and restore your nandroid. It exists on the boot partition and you access it using various button press/hold combinations at boot which vary depending on how you've got your system setup.
AutoNooter- is just (!) a tool that makes it easy to root your Nook. Once rooted, this tool is not used again.

So, if you use Nandroid, where do you store the image? Can you store it on your PC?

Store on uSD or PC
loribuono said:
So, if you use Nandroid, where do you store the image? Can you store it on your PC?
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I keep the latest backup on the uSD in the folder it defaults to, then copy the prior 1 to the PC. I only keep 2 BU at a time. The BU are good sized: 400-500MBs, so it makes sense to me this way. You're milage may vary.
Good luck m8!

loribuono said:
So, if you use Nandroid, where do you store the image? Can you store it on your PC?
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If you use Monster Rootpack 0.7, you can boot CWM off of the sd card and store your backup on the SD. From there you can remove your SD card and read/store the contents on your PC.