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How do I downgrade from WM5 back to WM2003SE

Found 2003SE ugly but at least useable. WM5 just runs too slowly for me. Do I just need to follow the 1.42 Rom flash tutorial on the wiki to reflash my existing Rom or are there specific steps that need to be done beforehand?
I changed the EXT Rom to 128K as per instructions for WM5 installation will this affect any reversal process?
Thx.

Hi
Yes, you have to do it 'special' way.
Just tell me why haven't you found this wiki page ?
Follow the process carefully.
There are bunch of people stuck with improperly downgraded devices (no risk though... they simply don't know how to repair it)
Good luck

robal said:
Just tell me why haven't you found this wiki page ?
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Stupidity I guess Thx for the link btw. Maybe I'll try the keyword "downgrade" in the find page box of Wiki

I found a problem on this page... this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades its not working for me. And I wat to download the official ROM for me SX66 (XGULA001)... Does anyone knows an alternative?

Dankan_ said:
I found a problem on this page... this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades its not working for me. And I wat to download the official ROM for me SX66 (XGULA001)... Does anyone knows an alternative?
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The roms located at
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAn...ates/PH20B1_Siemens_13310_110_10210_WWE_SHIP/

rschell Really thanks!
Justa one more question... It´s just put the device in boot loader mode and run this? My quetsion its becaus the ROM there is in .exe format...

Dankan_ said:
rschell Really thanks!
Justa one more question... It´s just put the device in boot loader mode and run this? My quetsion its becaus the ROM there is in .exe format...
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Just execute the .exe, if you are lucky you won't get any county or model errors, but I doubt it. If you get errors, you will need to follow the instructions by cdaly1970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903
the temp directory in XP is under is something like C:\Documents and Settings\Userid\Local Settings\Temp\xxxxx.tmp

rschell said:
Dankan_ said:
rschell Really thanks!
Justa one more question... It´s just put the device in boot loader mode and run this? My quetsion its becaus the ROM there is in .exe format...
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Just execute the .exe, if you are lucky you won't get any county or model errors, but I doubt it. If you get errors, you will need to follow the instructions by cdaly1970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=233903#233903
the temp directory in XP is under is something like C:\Documents and Settings\Userid\Local Settings\Temp\xxxxx.tmp
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If you use winrar you could extract that exe so you don't have to go to the temp dir

YESS !!! I think everythink is already on WIKI

Discovery? I think I found an easy way to upgrade ROMS

Hey guys, I'm new to this side of the forums. Just bought a Treo 750 and I think I like better than my old Hermes.
Anyways, I didn't have a MicroSD card adapter to format my card, so I did a little bit of risk taking and decided to flash my ROM any way I could (I'm impatient). What I did was take the custom RUU updater from the Patcher/Unlocker and upgraded using that. I'm not sure if this is already posted somewhere, and I didn't see it, but I think its pretty cool and easier than formating an SD card every time you need to upgrade ROMS.
Here is what I did.
Find the ROM I wanted
http://palmone.r3h.net/downloads.palm.com/Treo750_2_23_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Having 7-zip installed, I decompressed the File and found CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
I then renamed that to: CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
I made a new folder and put the RUUWrapper and CHEEIMG_FW.nbh into the same folder.
finally, I just hit all the buttons and checked all the boxes to upgrade my ROM.
Now, I have windows Mobile 6.0 (from 5.0) on my Treo.
I am thinking that I can do this to the Radio also, but I'm a little scared to try it. If anyone is brave to tested and tell me, I'd really appreciate it.
I have attached the RUUWrapper that the Cheetah Patcher/Unlocker comes with. Obviously I didn't really make anything.
If this has already been posted, Just delete this thread...Just trying to bring new in site.

tested now on treo 750v with spanish language
Just work great and have english lang now and win mobile 6!
flash only OS CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
great discovery!
best regards
vali

cd85233 said:
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I decompressed the File and found CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
I then renamed that to: CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
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Not sure if the above is a Typo.
You said you renamed CHEEIMG_FW.nbh to CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
Same Name?

valibuzauro said:
tested now on treo 750v with spanish language
Just work great and have english lang now and win mobile 6!
flash only OS CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
great discovery!
best regards
vali
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So is this only updated OS and not the Radio?

Wow, sorry...
What I meant was name the file CheetahPatched.nbh
I don't know if it matters what name it is, aslong as its in the folder it might work.
But, if that doesnt work, just name the rom to CheetahPatched.nbh
I don't know if the Radio Rom will be upgraded as well, but I guess you could be brave and try it.

Since my last post I went ahead and tried it.
Everything went smoothly.
Radio did infact show a newer version 1.54.01.
But,.....
It could just be something I did wrong on my end, but the SW still was 1.13 CNG.
So I went ahead and flashed the Official ATT 2.25, and then it still said 1.13 CNG.
Finally, I flashed the RWE the normal way (editing the payloads.xml) and now everything shows the correct Sw & Fw.
So I may have just had an isolated issue.
If another person comes along and gives your flashing method a run and everything updates correctly, then I will be convinced it was just my isolated issue.
Thanks either way.
Berd

Mine says 1.13ATT...I really don't know much about the Treo Phone, since I moved froma Hermes, so I don't know what that really means lol.

I believe you need to run "UpdInfo.CAB" extracted from the updater version to get the ROM version to read correctly...

berdinkerdickle said:
Finally, I flashed the RWE the normal way (editing the payloads.xml) and now everything shows the correct Sw & Fw.
So I may have just had an isolated issue.
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Please HOW TO???
I trying edit payloads.xml from this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345531 and above run PalmDesktopUpdater,not working/connect errot/nothing flash....Sw & Fw in T750 /Setting/About NOT VIEW Correctly
This same with PalmSD Updater...not work.
I used WM6 Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN flashed on my device Sw & Fw is still not view correctly
I tryinng UpdInfo.cab and this same......version is "ooooooooooooooooooo"

Thanks cd85233.
Updated for windows mobile 6 Spanish, and gave it perfectly ..

cd85233 said:
Wow, sorry...
What I meant was name the file CheetahPatched.nbh
I don't know if it matters what name it is, aslong as its in the folder it might work.
But, if that doesnt work, just name the rom to CheetahPatched.nbh
I don't know if the Radio Rom will be upgraded as well, but I guess you could be brave and try it.
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I just tried this method to 'downgrade' my radio version. It went through all of the motions, and then ended up not having changed it at all.
Never mind - it was worth a try.
I haven't tried using this method for upgrades of radio though, so it'll be good to find out if it works for that..

Hope it works out for you, if you need a SD card, I think buy.com has a 4 gig for 15 bucks right now, free shipping. that way you can upgrade the normal way.

Mouse2007 said:
Please HOW TO???
I trying edit payloads.xml from this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345531 and above run PalmDesktopUpdater,not working/connect errot/nothing flash....Sw & Fw in T750 /Setting/About NOT VIEW Correctly
This same with PalmSD Updater...not work.
I used WM6 Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN flashed on my device Sw & Fw is still not view correctly
I tryinng UpdInfo.cab and this same......version is "ooooooooooooooooooo"
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I am so sorry,
I realize I never replied.
I'm going try and help trjons over at http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?p=1493252#post1493252
If he has the same concern, I will post it over there.

Thanks dude
hey man thanks it does work
simple, download the RRU... and the FW.
run the exe
follow instructions
thats it.. cool

cd85233 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to this side of the forums. Just bought a Treo 750 and I think I like better than my old Hermes.
Anyways, I didn't have a MicroSD card adapter to format my card, so I did a little bit of risk taking and decided to flash my ROM any way I could (I'm impatient). What I did was take the custom RUU updater from the Patcher/Unlocker and upgraded using that. I'm not sure if this is already posted somewhere, and I didn't see it, but I think its pretty cool and easier than formating an SD card every time you need to upgrade ROMS.
Here is what I did.
Find the ROM I wanted
http://palmone.r3h.net/downloads.palm.com/Treo750_2_23_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Having 7-zip installed, I decompressed the File and found CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
I then renamed that to: CHEEIMG_FW.nbh
I made a new folder and put the RUUWrapper and CHEEIMG_FW.nbh into the same folder.
finally, I just hit all the buttons and checked all the boxes to upgrade my ROM.
Now, I have windows Mobile 6.0 (from 5.0) on my Treo.
I am thinking that I can do this to the Radio also, but I'm a little scared to try it. If anyone is brave to tested and tell me, I'd really appreciate it.
I have attached the RUUWrapper that the Cheetah Patcher/Unlocker comes with. Obviously I didn't really make anything.
If this has already been posted, Just delete this thread...Just trying to bring new in site.
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Bro, You are a genius!!
Nothing else was working for me and I tried this as my last resort, and worked the first try. now im on 6.1!! thank you!!

How to restore orginal ROM

I installed Touch IT Xperience, great ROM imo but it lagged for me too much so yeh. Is there anyway of getting the orginal X1 ROM back?
Sorry if this has already been discussed, I'm still new to the phone lol..

tai927 said:
I installed Touch IT Xperience, great ROM imo but it lagged for me too much so yeh. Is there anyway of getting the orginal X1 ROM back?
Sorry if this has already been discussed, I'm still new to the phone lol..
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Btw: in your opinion, what do you think is the BEST rom out there? I want something that doesn't lag, still has the button and something 3D like.

Anyone?

The first sticky thread on this section is called "NEW ORIGINAL X1 ROMS".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
Then click on the first link in it.
Find the ROM version that relates to your country and operator and download it. For example, if you have an X1 from O2 in the UK then there is a ROM for that version.
Install the ROM on your phone by using either of these methods...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446070
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445662
If you're going to be returning your X1 to the operator, it might be a good idea to get rid of the Hard-SPL as well. Follow the instructions towards the end of this page to put the stock SPL back on your handset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
All of these links were stickies at the TOP of the X1 ROMS section.
I hate myself for saying it, but this forum is for application developers and technically inclined people to improve their day-to-day use of their handsets. Fresh faces are always welcome, but don't expect to be simply handed a complete solution when chances are that your question has been asked before. PLEASE use the Search facility towards the top right of each page to see if your question has been answered before.
As for ROMs, I'm currently running Itje's Touch-IT Xperience v4.5. I don't understand what you mean by lagging too much, because v4.5 is FAR faster and smoother than the stock Sony-Ericsson ROM that the phone comes with. Sure, there are still one or two issues that are being addressed but they are small fixes that can be fixed with cabs.

Sorry but I'm still confused
So I download this: APP_SW_X1a_TELSTRA_AU_CDF1221-3134_KOV_R1AA021
but it's not an nbh file?

Read Post # 4 all of it...

tai927 said:
Sorry but I'm still confused
So I download this: APP_SW_X1a_TELSTRA_AU_CDF1221-3134_KOV_R1AA021
but it's not an nbh file?
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So you got your phone from Telstra in Australia? If so then that's the right one.
It isn't a .nbh file but it gives you a .image file in the end.
If you use the SD-card method to install the ROM (this one here), you rename the .image file to Kovsimg.nbh
Copy it to the SD card.
Turn the phone off.
Hold the down volume button while turning the phone back on.
This *should* set the phone into flashing itself from the Kovsimg.nbh file on the SD card.
I'm repeating what was said in that link. I wouldn't give you a list of links without a good reason.

extract file from *.nbh ( ROM file )

Is it possible to extract mp3 files from the rom file ruu_signed.nbh?

i think what ur looking for is easy, there are plenty of software out there that could give you that. I remember using Koch nbh by dutty for Hermes but works fine for the Rhodium ONLY to extract files and not to combine.
But the real question is: how can cook an nb file back to nbh file? because I would like to go back to WWE rom, and I thought of extract the nbh file and pulling out the windows.nb then changing it back to nbh but this last piece of the puzzle is not available.
I went little crazy and used dutty's tool to convert nb to nbh and tried it on rhoidum as RHODIMG.NBH then putting it on the SD and going to bootloader. it seems to be stuck on loading all the time without going forward.

samery said:
i think what ur looking for is easy, there are plenty of software out there that could give you that. I remember using Koch nbh by dutty for Hermes but works fine for the Rhodium ONLY to extract files and not to combine.
But the real question is: how can cook an nb file back to nbh file? because I would like to go back to WWE rom, and I thought of extract the nbh file and pulling out the windows.nb then changing it back to nbh but this last piece of the puzzle is not available.
I went little crazy and used dutty's tool to convert nb to nbh and tried it on rhoidum as RHODIMG.NBH then putting it on the SD and going to bootloader. it seems to be stuck on loading all the time without going forward.
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Use something like yang to rebuild the ROM image. You won't be able to flash it until Hard SPL is out.

I dunno if this will work on a rhodium or not, but it works great with dumping raphael roms. You can get anything you want out of them. You can also remove stuff or insert stuff and re-cook. Just read the text file for directions; there's nothing to it.

Farmer Ted said:
I dunno if this will work on a rhodium or not, but it works great with dumping raphael roms. You can get anything you want out of them. You can also remove stuff or insert stuff and re-cook. Just read the text file for directions; there's nothing to it.
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there is a Trojan horse in first post!

It's the custom ruu, and it's not a virus. You are the millionth person to point this out.

Farmer Ted said:
You are the millionth person to point this out.
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seems ur keep count, so he deserves a prize being exactly number millionth

Farmer Ted said:
It's the custom ruu, and it's not a virus. You are the millionth person to point this out.
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Thanks. But anyway its not works with rhodium. It can read and make from *nbh to *.nb, but can`t excrat any files. Any ideas?
BTW. Where is my big pirze to be a millionth

[Q] Messaging Error

Hi
I've try different build of Android the last week and I always get some error when I do some messaging. Half of the message I receive are in chinese instead of English or French.
I have try
Scoot_CyanogenMod_7_alpha_RLS1_All_Language
myn-WarmDonut-04-24-2010-240x320-110
Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo RLS16 All Languages
I have done some reading in the forum but didn't find the answer about this.
Please help.
Thanks
Le_MaiTre

change radio firmware.

What do you call radio firmware ??

got othe windows section and search radio...

What is the latest version I should have ??? Some threat are old and I can't figure out what is the latest version ...
Thanks

I've done a lot of research but didn't find the right answer for me. I have install the rom with the stepby step instruction in this page ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
I have also download the file from here that I have rename it and put it in the folder with the RUU Update Utility. I have try the file lastest-vogue.nbh
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
Everything work perfectly except the text message. I have also notice that in the setting when I go to about phone. The baseband version is unknown. I think that it's the problem but I don't know what to do to solve the problem.
Can someone help me ???
Thanks

the files in http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D are outdated

Ok do you know where I can find the file that are the most up to date ???

Le_Maitre said:
Ok do you know where I can find the file that are the most up to date ???
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You could try here: http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_(Vogue) or here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/. Hope this helps.

theonew said:
You could try here: http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_(Vogue) or here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/. Hope this helps.
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The first link doesn't work and the second give me some file but I don't know what to do with this ... There's no explanation on the website ...

Le_Maitre said:
The first link doesn't work and the second give me some file but I don't know what to do with this ... There's no explanation on the website ...
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Here's how to change the radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5057656&postcount=6
here's the whole thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5057656#post5057656
And you need to find the latest radio for your phone possibly one that worked with windows mobile 6.51. Before you ask which one ..I have to say that I won't be able to help you as I don't own a vogue. I guess you could make a new thread and ask users which radios work best for them on vogue.

Le_Maitre said:
The first link doesn't work and the second give me some file but I don't know what to do with this ... There's no explanation on the website ...
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The link has been fixed and go here for instructions: http://techf1.blogspot.com/2010/04/coming-soon-installing-android-21-on.html. I would advise you to use the gingerbread image.

theonew said:
The link has been fixed and go here for instructions: http://techf1.blogspot.com/2010/04/coming-soon-installing-android-21-on.html. I would advise you to use the gingerbread image.
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I have forgot to say that my installation is on NAND so I can't use haret.
-Arturo- said:
Here's how to change the radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5057656&postcount=6
here's the whole thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5057656#post5057656
And you need to find the latest radio for your phone possibly one that worked with windows mobile 6.51. Before you ask which one ..I have to say that I won't be able to help you as I don't own a vogue. I guess you could make a new thread and ask users which radios work best for them on vogue.
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I have download the files for the radio 3.42.50 on the tread that you gave. I rename the .nbh in RUU_signed.nbh and put it on the Rom Update utility and start the update.
It gave me the right radio and I click on update. I load to 8 % and after gave me an error
Error 328 Invalid Command
I have to exit the update process and the phone reboot to the old Scoot CyanogenMod that is already install with the old radio. I think I miss something but can't find it.
Can someone help me ??

Le_Maitre said:
I have forgot to say that my installation is on NAND so I can't use haret.Can someone help me ??
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Go here for the step by step instruction guide for NAND installation and links to some files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024. I hope this helps.

Le_Maitre said:
I've done a lot of research but didn't find the right answer for me. I have install the rom with the stepby step instruction in this page ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
I have also download the file from here that I have rename it and put it in the folder with the RUU Update Utility. I have try the file lastest-vogue.nbh
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
Everything work perfectly except the text message. I have also notice that in the setting when I go to about phone. The baseband version is unknown. I think that it's the problem but I don't know what to do to solve the problem.
Can someone help me ???
Thanks
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theonew said:
Go here for the step by step instruction guide for NAND installation and links to some files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024. I hope this helps.
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Like I already said. I've follow the step by step on your post but someone tell me that my messaging error are from the outdated radio on the step by step instruction. He found link from an other forum that give me the latest radio but when I try to re-install it I get an error and I do not know what to do .... I'm lost .....

Le_Maitre said:
Like I already said. I've follow the step by step on your post but someone tell me that my messaging error are from the outdated radio on the step by step instruction. He found link from an other forum that give me the latest radio but when I try to re-install it I get an error and I do not know what to do .... I'm lost .....
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The only other thing I can think of is to have the latest radio from Windows Mobile. When you were using windows mobile, did you ever flash a custom rom? If you did then that may have fixed your problem if you were using the latest radio version. If you weren't, then I guess if you want to fix your problem, you're gonna have to flash a windows mobile 6.5.x rom with the latest radio and then flash android.

theonew said:
The only other thing I can think of is to have the latest radio from Windows Mobile. When you were using windows mobile, did you ever flash a custom rom? If you did then that may have fixed your problem if you wre using the latest radio version. If you weren't, then I guess if you want to fix your problem, you're gonna have to flash a windows mobile 6.5.x rom with the latest radio and then flash android.
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Yes I have flash my phone with WinMo before. I was using NFSFAN Rom before switching to Android 2 months ago ...

Le_Maitre said:
Yes I have flash my phone with WinMo before. I was using NFSFAN Rom before switching to Android 2 months ago ...
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When you were using it, what was your radio version? If it was the latest, then it should have been 3.42.50. I read that for "Bell" users like you, the radio 3.42.50 is recommended for this installation.

Le_Maitre said:
I have forgot to say that my installation is on NAND so I can't use haret.
I have download the files for the radio 3.42.50 on the tread that you gave. I rename the .nbh in RUU_signed.nbh and put it on the Rom Update utility and start the update.
It gave me the right radio and I click on update. I load to 8 % and after gave me an error
Error 328 Invalid Command
I have to exit the update process and the phone reboot to the old Scoot CyanogenMod that is already install with the old radio. I think I miss something but can't find it.
Can someone help me ??
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did you read the whole post that i had provided before??? there isasolution to yourproblem there.
Way 3 (I know I said two ways...): There are a few
stock roms that come with new radios. One of
them can be downloaded directly from HTC and it
is for the Sprint Touch. This one comes with Radio
3.42.30
The other one is for Bell Mobility and this one
comes with Radio 3.42.50.
Why am I giving "Way 3" if the other two options
seem much easier?? I have run into the problem
where my device would not let me flash other
radios than the one that I had. SD card method
did not work and the RUU started out fine but
quits at 8% rebooting my phone and displaying
Error 328 in the RUU on the PC. Anyway, here are
the links...

-Arturo- said:
did you read the whole post that i had provided before??? there isasolution to yourproblem there.
Way 3 (I know I said two ways...): There are a few
stock roms that come with new radios. One of
them can be downloaded directly from HTC and it
is for the Sprint Touch. This one comes with Radio
3.42.30
The other one is for Bell Mobility and this one
comes with Radio 3.42.50.
Why am I giving "Way 3" if the other two options
seem much easier?? I have run into the problem
where my device would not let me flash other
radios than the one that I had. SD card method
did not work and the RUU started out fine but
quits at 8% rebooting my phone and displaying
Error 328 in the RUU on the PC. Anyway, here are
the links...
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I've read the whole post but I don't understand the 3rd way. If I click on the Bell rom with radio 3.42.50 it bring me to the HTC site and there nothing to download.
I've try to download the All Above Radios zipped. It gave me 3 files in a zip. I rename the file 3.42.50 in RUU_signed.nbh and put it in the folder of the ROMUtilityUpdate. Maybe is there I do something wrong ...
Did I miss something ???