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Hey all,
I was really hioping someone could give me a hand.
I am due a delivery of a hero at somepoint today. Now from what i have read and researched, the hero is a little behind with the Android version and we are awaiting a new update from HTC. ( i don't want to go the custom ROM route, not just yet)
Now, if the HTC rep i spoke to is to be believed, we wont get the update until Mid-April earliest. that's a month of my contacts, settings etc etc that will be lost with a ROM update.
My question is this, Can anyone recommend a decent back-up utility for the Hero?
I don't mind paying for it, but i would prefere if it can save my mail settings (maybe the 3 internet settings too as they are a pain)
I have seen a few apps around to do it, but you never know unless you try.
i would rather not go the trial and error route on my contacts!
(i have also heard that the Hero comes with a pretty decent PC Sync utility to install to my PC that will take backups etc, any thruth to this?)
Thanks for your help guys,
TM411
"My Backup Pro" is a very good app (costs £4 ish i think) in the market. probably the best non rooted app you will find to back everything up.
If you were to root your phone you could use an app called "titanium backup" personally I haven not got on with it but a lot of people on this site love it (maybe I should give it a second chance?)
Google phones sync contacts with google by default (access via a pc @ www.google.com/contacts) so once your happy they are all on that website you never need to worry about backing them up on your phone ever again
Excellent,
thanks mate.
Quick question though, what is "rooting"
am i missing something simple?
TroubleMaker411 said:
Excellent,
thanks mate.
Quick question though, what is "rooting"
am i missing something simple?
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Rooting is the process that gives you more access to things that you normally can't do.
Once this is done it allows apps to control parts of the phone that normally cannot be touched which is why titanium backup is probably the most complete backup app there is.
It also allows you to install custom roms etc
Cool, thanks.
One last question then, sorry to be a pain.
Would you recommend going the custom ROM/rooted path?
If so, is there an Android 2.1/new HTC UI ROM around that you would recommend i have a butchers at?
Thanks again mate
TroubleMaker411 said:
Cool, thanks.
One last question then, sorry to be a pain.
Would you recommend going the custom ROM/rooted path?
If so, is there an Android 2.1/new HTC UI ROM around that you would recommend i have a butchers at?
Thanks again mate
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Installing a custom recovery image does no harm to your phone and will give you the option to backup and flash a custom ROM if you wish.
I would defiantly recommend doing it.
you can always restore to default anyway to remove it for some reason you wished to do so.
there are guides on this site and good videos on www.theunlockr.com to teach you how to do it. It is not hard and just gives you that choice of how to use your phone
Thank you
You have been extremely helpful.
It's much appreciated
TM411
Not only am I a newbie, but I am also a timid newbie. I am reluctant to mess around with the stock software, and OS that came with my gTab. Most of the great apps, and advice on this site requires you to either flash the tablet, or root the device, etc. I am WAY too chicken to try this. I would love to be able to get to the usual Market as I can on my phone. I would also like to use Swype. Is there any way to "open" up the tablet to these without "major" surgery? I think a list of apps that can be manually installed would be helpful to inexperienced "chickens" like me. Or any add ons, that might improve our new baby would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Search is a wonderful thing, everyone should try it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858136
Warning, if you stick stock you may end up returning it
Flashing a room is not difficult if you read/search/research.
copc said:
Search is a wonderful thing, everyone should try it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858136
Warning, if you stick stock you may end up returning it
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Don't be ridiculous, it is fine with a few tweaks.
Flashing a room is not difficult if you read/search/research.
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That is like buying a brand new car, and then replacing the engine. Fine for some, but really not necessary.
Reggie777: I am going to apply the newest update to my stock g-tablet. This usually wipes out all user changes, including installed apps. I will actually follow my own post about doing the changes. I can't remember everything!
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Don't be ridiculous, it is fine with a few tweaks.
That is like buying a brand new car, and then replacing the engine. Fine for some, but really not necessary.
Reggie777: I am going to apply the newest update to my stock g-tablet. This usually wipes out all user changes, including installed apps. I will actually follow my own post about doing the changes. I can't remember everything!
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Funny I had to pull nothing out of my gtab? LOL
Why would I pull the Tegra out just to flash a rom?
PS there is a reason that thread was on page 3 as there are fewer that are not flashing roms.
Plus the original point was that the "SEARCH" was a wonderful thing.
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Reggie777: I am going to apply the newest update to my stock g-tablet. This usually wipes out all user changes, including installed apps. I will actually follow my own post about doing the changes. I can't remember everything!
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I just did the 1.0.1-3053 update, and it appears all previous changes remained. I did have to re-root it with the z4root app. Those complaining of problems after this update seem to be running a customized ROM. You won't have these problems unless you flash a customized ROM.
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Don't be ridiculous, it is fine with a few tweaks.
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This whole argument is ridiculous. Not a single rom has done a single thing to the underlying "Stock" structure. They are all based from the original "Stock" stuff. The only thing they do is either add or subtract from the original base software.
There is no magic here. If you buy a new car and put shiny new wheels on it you have done the same thing. The car still has the stock engine, and basic structure. If you bought a house that was painted pink and didn't like how it looked you might paint it. Same house, just a new look.
So, your stock with tweaks is essentially the same as my stock with tweaks. I just choose to install the majority of the tweaks at one time with a simple rom update. You do yours one by one..
I don't care what anyone does with there tablet as long as you don't use it to start World War III. But the my mods are better than your mods argument is kind of silly.
Do whatever makes you happy. All I can say is that pretty much no matter what you do it can be put back to original in about 5 minutes. Boot loops, hangs, funky looking screens.. All part of the learning process. Some people seem to be more prone to it. Most of the issues I see people have come from them getting in a big hurry, not thoroughly reading the instructions given with almost every mod, and then flashing away. Slow down, read, and understand what you are doing and it will all typically go just fine.
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This whole argument is ridiculous. Not a single rom has done a single thing to the underlying "Stock" structure. They are all based from the original "Stock" stuff. The only thing they do is either add or subtract from the original base software.
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Not true.
Some of the mods are based on the zpad image, a completely different image than the g-tablet. My only objection is people saying flashing custom ROMS is a must. That is nonsense, and I will say so every time I see someone post that.
The more updates that ViewSonic put out, it seems the fewer "tweaks" that will be needed.
Can we keep the trolling to World of Warcraft?
There are minor to major changes that can be done ROM wise. What is important IMHO is to give choices to someone that is just starting.
I have the impression the op would like TnTLite version vs Vega or Cyanogen or even ZPad.
I did start like you... almost happy with stock. But the more basic things I needed I noticed the original TnT wasn't good enough. I have changed to TnTLite myself and couldn't be happier.
Just check that thread. Its one stop and change.
Good luck
Bingo! Choice is king, if you don't like the choice you choose go back to stock. But atleast show all your choices, we are not all wanting the same build, hence we are not talking IPADS.
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I gather that rooting the gTab is not such a big deal after all? I had started with the impression that rooting and flashing the rom were similar, and equally "dangerous". I DID find the thread that copc referred me to after my starting this thread. We all have to start somewhere as newbies. Thanks too to Wasserkapf for his help.
Rooting will still allow you to get all VS updates. Same with doing the Market install.
Flashing a ROM can be scary, especially if you have lots of stuff on your tablet. I found that investing in Titanium Backup (requires root) was a great idea. I do a full backup every time I flash my ROM and restore apps and data afterwards; I have never lost data nor settings.
If you decide to flash TnT Lite or VEGAn (which is coming along nicely and really brings the tablet to life IMO), there are not only many posts but many friendly folks who are here to help you out.
I am very happy with my G Tablet and this community has been immeasurably helpful in making it so useful.
-=Sent from my ViewSonic G Tablet (VEGAn) using Tapatalk=-
Reggie777 said:
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I gather that rooting the gTab is not such a big deal after all? I had started with the impression that rooting and flashing the rom were similar, and equally "dangerous". I DID find the thread that copc referred me to after my starting this thread. We all have to start somewhere as newbies. Thanks too to Wasserkapf for his help.
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Exactly we all start as newbies, and it's places like this that are great help.
Good News, everyone. I used z4root, and was able to root my gTab. I also was able to install Launcher Pro, so that now when I turn it on, I get the option of going to the old familiar Android layout as on my Droid. Thanks for the encouragement from you'all. The sky did not fall. Yeah!
I do have some questions, though.
1. If I accidentally load in the TapnTap home screen, I cannot get back to the launcher pro. I cannot find it on the tablet to run it. I can find the apk and it offers to install it again. So, can anyone tell me where it is hidden?
2. I downloaded the vendors apk in an attempt to get the old android market place as on my phone. But it will not install. I am sure I am doing something wrong.
3. There are some icons to the right, the web, messages, and the phone. Is there a way to remove the ones that do not work? Only the web works. I understand that the phone would not, and even the messages. But how can I remove them?
Again, thanks for the moral support and encouragement. I still find the structure of the tablet confusing. Internal SD, external SD, root, etc. Anyone out there with the technical know how could make quite a few dollars by writing a book explaining the wonders, procedures, and pitfalls of our new tablet.
Reggie777 said:
Good News, everyone. I used z4root, and was able to root my gTab. I also was able to install Launcher Pro, so that now when I turn it on, I get the option of going to the old familiar Android layout as on my Droid. Thanks for the encouragement from you'all. The sky did not fall. Yeah!
I do have some questions, though.
1. If I accidentally load in the TapnTap home screen, I cannot get back to the launcher pro. I cannot find it on the tablet to run it. I can find the apk and it offers to install it again. So, can anyone tell me where it is hidden?
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On my tablet, just hitting the Home icon in the upper-right corner will do that. It is the second one from the top, on the bezel of the screen.
2. I downloaded the vendors apk in an attempt to get the old android market place as on my phone. But it will not install. I am sure I am doing something wrong.
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That is the second thing on my list of tweaks. You need to download and install several files. Please follow the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209
3. There are some icons to the right, the web, messages, and the phone. Is there a way to remove the ones that do not work? Only the web works. I understand that the phone would not, and even the messages. But how can I remove them?
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You should be able to drop a different icon, from the main screen 'Desktop' on top of it, essentially replacing it. To get different icons on the main screen, open the app drawer, and tap and hold an icon. To remove it from the main screen, tap and hold, and move it to the trash can on the right.
I got as far as downloading the zip file, unzipping it. But I am not sure what "mount as R/W" means. I am also not up on the structure of the storage of the Gtablet, and my computer sees .android_secure, Android, Backgrounds, backups, DCIM, download, and Lost.Dir. As a result, I am not sure where to copy the new files to. I moved the unzipped file to the download folder on the tablet. But I am not sure where to go from here. Being a newbie bites.
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I got as far as downloading the zip file, unzipping it. But I am not sure what "mount as R/W" means. I am also not up on the structure of the storage of the Gtablet, and my computer sees .android_secure, Android, Backgrounds, backups, DCIM, download, and Lost.Dir. As a result, I am not sure where to copy the new files to. I moved the unzipped file to the download folder on the tablet. But I am not sure where to go from here. Being a newbie bites.
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I thought that the instructions were as clear as anyone could make them.
3. Using AndRootFile or any other file manager that supports root access, mount as R/W, and copy the contents of G Tablet\permissions to System\etc\permissions.
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That means to use a file manager that supports root browsing. The stock one doesn't, so you will need to install one. The link in the original post will get you the AndRootFile app, that should work. I purchased RootExplorer from the Android Market, so that is what I use. It has a "Mount R/W" button at the top, and I assume AndRootFile has something similar.
Oh, and root is to Unix/Linux/Android that Administrator is to Windows. You need root permissions to make system changes.
Once you have mounted it in R/W mode, copy the files to the folders that it says to. When done, don't forget to re-mount it in R/O mode before exiting.
My bad. I had used z4root to do the rooting. I'll try it with the one you suggested. Thanks.
Actually z4root should work for rooting the tablet. But it isn't a file browser with root access. That is where the other apps come into play.
OK. Here is my adventure so far. I got AndRootFile, and installed it. It is now working. But when I try to copy a file to another location, it does not want to copy the file. features.xml is an example of one that it shows the check box for copying, but when I get to the destination, there is nothing to paste. Frustrating. I also tried Rootexplorer, and have the same result. Now it looks as if the other new file in the new permissions folder copies, since it says it exists and do I want to overwrite. I said yes. But the second file, features does not show up even after I try to paste it. The good news is that I am figuring out the structure of the Beast, and so can move around much easier with AndRootFile, and RootExplorer. Thanks for your ongoing patience, and support.
It doesn't sound as if you are first mounting the file system in R/W (Read/Write) mode. And when finished, make sure you mount it back into R/O (Read/Only) mode before exiting.
Okay, I am a complete noob, as my problem will prove, so I apologize for surely misusing standard terms. Here we go...
I have a Google Music account on my cm7 nook and need a way to run their Music Manager. I don't own ANY type of other hardware (PC, Mac, nothing) but have several sd cards worth of music I want to upload to the cloud locker.
I have downloaded the app in several formats (.exe, .rpm, .deb) and failed to install before realizing the inherent infeasability of running a .exe on an android device.
The only possible way I think I may have found is to install ubuntu on the device (through adb?) and installing the debian package of the Manager. From what I saw on the ubuntu thread I think I may need a PC to burn the ubuntu image.
My question is can anyone tell me how to run the Music Manager on my nook? The easier the better, but I am willing to learn...
Thanks!
Running a rooted nook color, cm7.1.
I would check out the nookbuntu thread on how to put it on your nook. I suppose you will be able to put music manager on there by getting the .deb However i havent had much luck in the past getting ubuntu on the nook working, and im not sure if you have access to your SD card from the Ubuntu environment.
If you don't have a computer, where is all your music stored?
This looks like its going to be a lot of hassle every step of the way and might not work, honestly if i were you I'd find a friend you can put music manager on their computer, Put all your music on an external HDD or something, and see if they will patiently let it upload.
All of the music is stored on micro sds. I have tried to accomplish the tracks in a variety including dropbox w/dropsync among others but while I have succeeded in getting the tracks on the cloud, I can't get it onto google's specific locker, which is, of course the whole point.
The Music Manager, in and of itself, isn't the objective. Any method of getting the tracks uploaded would suffice.
I may indeed have to through myself upon the kindness of strangers and try to use someone else's PC. I haven't had a computer since the Love Bug. Yeah, seriously.
I am not sure if these are at a premium anymore, but anyone who can help me accomplish this, or even makes a good faith effort is welcome to an invite to Google Music. I have a couple extra.
Hopefully that doesn't break any forum rules. If so, apologies.
Hey, good news everybody.
I talked with Google, and thanks to my powerful connections, you are ALL now invited to Google Music! Keep it quiet, and don't trip over each other trying to thank me all at once!
It sure makes me feel slightly less special for them to launch publically two days after I got my invite.
Help with the upload still being looked for, even if Google gave away my only incentive...
Public library?
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Well, I doubt that would work since I understand there upload process pretty much takes days. it looks like I will just have to find av friendly PC owner and do this the old fashion way.
I just was refusing to believe that this fabulous machine, that has pretty much done everything I have asked of it, cannot accomplish a simple thing like run a program written by the same company as its OS.
I have seen solutions to some pretty far out problems on these forums, and I was taking the chance that someone would know a method.
I may be one of the only rooters without some sort of desktop computer, but I just doubt I am the only person who would verymuch like to upload straight from my tablet. it seemed worth a shot.
Hi,
I am awaiting delivery of a 32Gb Touchpad within the next couple of days and will probably want to root it fairly soon after getting it. I have rooted 2 android phones before, so rooting doesn't hold too many fears for me lol. However, I obviously haven't come across dualbooting a device after it has been rooted, so I have a couple of questions, which I have done a search for, but couldn't get any definative answers for.
First of all, am I right in thinking that on booting the device, I will end up with a slight pause during which I can choose to boot into the other operating system. Something like the way windows will pause to give you a chance to boot from the CD drive before continuing to load windows.
Also, I have noticed that Android seems to need some of the WebOS files to be able to run. If this is the case, does sharing these files slow down WebOS in any way and also will I be able to optimize the WebOS system without causing problems with the Android OS.
Any help and advice will be very welcome.
Many thanks
Ian
gizmo001i said:
Hi,
I am awaiting delivery of a 32Gb Touchpad within the next couple of days and will probably want to root it fairly soon after getting it. I have rooted 2 android phones before, so rooting doesn't hold too many fears for me lol. However, I obviously haven't come across dualbooting a device after it has been rooted, so I have a couple of questions, which I have done a search for, but couldn't get any definative answers for.
First of all, am I right in thinking that on booting the device, I will end up with a slight pause during which I can choose to boot into the other operating system. Something like the way windows will pause to give you a chance to boot from the CD drive before continuing to load windows.
Also, I have noticed that Android seems to need some of the WebOS files to be able to run. If this is the case, does sharing these files slow down WebOS in any way and also will I be able to optimize the WebOS system without causing problems with the Android OS.
Any help and advice will be very welcome.
Many thanks
Ian
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Yes, there is a boot menu that allows you to choose webOS or Android. And, no, Android won't interfere with the operation of webOS or vice/versa.
gizmo001i said:
Hi,
I am awaiting delivery of a 32Gb Touchpad within the next couple of days and will probably want to root it fairly soon after getting it. I have rooted 2 android phones before, so rooting doesn't hold too many fears for me lol. However, I obviously haven't come across dualbooting a device after it has been rooted, so I have a couple of questions, which I have done a search for, but couldn't get any definative answers for.
First of all, am I right in thinking that on booting the device, I will end up with a slight pause during which I can choose to boot into the other operating system. Something like the way windows will pause to give you a chance to boot from the CD drive before continuing to load windows.
Also, I have noticed that Android seems to need some of the WebOS files to be able to run. If this is the case, does sharing these files slow down WebOS in any way and also will I be able to optimize the WebOS system without causing problems with the Android OS.
Any help and advice will be very welcome.
Many thanks
Ian
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First off its a tablet not a phone so its not really called rooting. In order to have the dual boot option you need Moboot. Do some research on google and you tube. Key words your looking for, How to install abdroid on hp touchpad. You will find what you need fairly quick. If all fails private message me with your email and I will supply you with the instructions personally via email
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Another option for directions
Google YouTube for Reverend TV (or Rev TV)
He provides exellent video step by step instructions for almost all touchpad android setups
If you're a mod junkie much like myself, read up on how to enable the testing feeds in preware and do it prior to installing preware via novaterm. It may look tough, but its really easy if you follow instructions exactly. I personally always do all the web os tweaks prior to installing android, as I feel it makes for a better web os experience, as well as a better tuned fall back os if you wish to use android as a primary os. There's also an app in WebOS that allows for tweaking the boot menu called cyboot, so you can change delay time for selection, as well as pick which os will be your default boot option.
Thanks for all your replies and advice. I think I already have most of if not all the info I need to be able to dual boot my touchpad. But you have answered my last few questions, thank you.
Ian
rpomponio said:
First off its a tablet not a phone so its not really called rooting. In order to have the dual boot option you need Moboot. Do some research on google and you tube. Key words your looking for, How to install abdroid on hp touchpad. You will find what you need fairly quick. If all fails private message me with your email and I will supply you with the instructions personally via email
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rpom: Rooting means getting access to the root of the Android OS...it doesnt matter if its a phone or tablet...even on tablet its called rooting
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rpom: Rooting means getting access to the root of the Android OS...it doesnt matter if its a phone or tablet...even on tablet its called rooting
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Take a hike
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Well guys, my self I'm not boithered whethere it is called rooting on the device or not lol. I now have a dualboot touchpad and I must say, it was a hell of alot easier than rooting an android phone. Thank you all for your advice.
Ian
gizmo001i said:
Well guys, my self I'm not boithered whethere it is called rooting on the device or not lol. I now have a dualboot touchpad and I must say, it was a hell of alot easier than rooting an android phone. Thank you all for your advice.
Ian
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it sure is!!! I recommend classic nerd in the dev section. Out was public release today and its awesome, its android 4.0
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I'm not as tech savvy as most of you, but I'm motivated because 1)I just can't stand buying something outright, then having someone else tell me how I can use it, and 2) I follow directions well.
I mostly use my phone to game and as a personal data assistant, with some web searching and very light Facebooking. I don't use ANY of the beaming/dongle/att suite/Samsung Suite, at all.
I got here because I use Clean Master, and it shows me constantly using in excess of 84% RAM, even though I've 'turned off' 63 force loaded apps. 63! And it keeps trying to force download stuff I've turned off. I'm ready to sail this freaking ad-machine into a wall.
So, do I want to root it and use a custom ROM, debloat it, or do I need to do one to do the other? I've done a lot of reading, and there is a ton of info, but it seems to be what to do after this decision point. If I root, does that wipe my phone, or does that happen when I install the custom ROM? Is there someone here who can walk me through it, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance for dealing with 'Mr. Newbtastic.'
Kamchak said:
I'm not as tech savvy as most of you, but I'm motivated because 1)I just can't stand buying something outright, then having someone else tell me how I can use it, and 2) I follow directions well.
I mostly use my phone to game and as a personal data assistant, with some web searching and very light Facebooking. I don't use ANY of the beaming/dongle/att suite/Samsung Suite, at all.
I got here because I use Clean Master, and it shows me constantly using in excess of 84% RAM, even though I've 'turned off' 63 force loaded apps. 63! And it keeps trying to force download stuff I've turned off. I'm ready to sail this freaking ad-machine into a wall.
So, do I want to root it and use a custom ROM, debloat it, or do I need to do one to do the other? I've done a lot of reading, and there is a ton of info, but it seems to be what to do after this decision point. If I root, does that wipe my phone, or does that happen when I install the custom ROM? Is there someone here who can walk me through it, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance for dealing with 'Mr. Newbtastic.'
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All that searching and found nothing for such a popular group of questions.
You can force stop most of the Samsung bloat ware and disable it, but to fully get rid of it you need to root. How you get rid of it is a different question. 1) manually going through system files and deleting the apk and shtuff, 2) invest in titanium backup pro to freeze the apps, or uninstall them, 3) a popular choice, probably the easiest; flash a pre-debloated ROM, and surely you know how to search so thoroughly to find those.
Rooting does not wipe the device. Installing Safestrap, the only recovery available, does not wipe the device. Installing Xposed and its many modules does not wipe the device. Going into Safestrap recovery, selecting wipe, and factory resetting the device...will wipe the device...and is forcefully suggested by all ROM makers so that you can get a clean install... on a wiped device. Factory resetting is the default option and normally the only one needed for a clean install, and it will not touch your extSDcard, or all those precious pictures and songs that fill your device.
Of course, no one would flash a ROM so often if there was no way to back up all your apps and games and level 80 dark elf, which is exactly what Titanium backup is for. Buy the pro key and you don't have to individually backup or restore any app or data.
This pretty much rounded all bases.
Thank you very much. There's a Q&A post (and I read all 28 pages of it), but it seemed to deal with what happens after my question. Your answer is extremely helpful for those of us with less technical knowledge. Thanks, again!
Kamchak said:
Thank you very much. There's a Q&A post (and I read all 28 pages of it), but it seemed to deal with what happens after my question. Your answer is extremely helpful for those of us with less technical knowledge. Thanks, again!
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If no one asked questions, there'd be no answers. Glad to help ?