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Dropped my Tilt in a pitcher of beer. Suggestions needed.

Ok. As I stated, I dropped my AT&T Tilt in a pitcher of beer. I dried it out and it went to bootloader mode. I was able to reinstall the stock rom from the HTC website, and all functions worked for two days, then it went back to bootloader mode again. Now I can't get the rom to install. It starts installing but I keep getting connection errors before it completes. I think the USB port may be screwed up.
Anyway, I know there are threads about rescuing your phone from bootloader mode, and I may or may not continue to mess with it. But what I really wanted to ask is which phone you'd buy to replace your Tilt if you had to buy it out of pocket. I'm not due for an upgrade, so I'll have to pay full price. I really liked Windows Mobile and my favorite programs were Garmin and the three S2 programs.

I got the stock rom to install AGAIN.
We'll see how long it lasts. Still, I need to be looking for another phone. On the AT&T website it says a replacement Tilt would be 400 bucks and a Fuze would be 500, wtf. I paid 99 for this refurb Tilt. Man I hope it stabilizes.

volumnus said:
We'll see how long it lasts. Still, I need to be looking for another phone. On the AT&T website it says a replacement Tilt would be 400 bucks and a Fuze would be 500, wtf. I paid 99 for this refurb Tilt. Man I hope it stabilizes.
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You could always buy a used Tilt from the Marketplace, Since, you know, you seem to drop it in beer a lot.
Typically in my Personal and Professional Experience, Electronics don't survive Swimming very well.

Update
Ok. This is frustrating. I have downloaded the latest HTC Rom twice. Both times I was able to install it, and every function worked perfectly for about twenty-four hours. Then, both times, while downloading my email, it went into bootloader mode. Any suggestions? Do you think another Rom might be more stable. Here is what the page says:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
It says "Serial" at the bottom, but it changes to "USB" when it's plugged in.

volumnus said:
Ok. This is frustrating. I have downloaded the latest HTC Rom twice. Both times I was able to install it, and every function worked perfectly for about twenty-four hours. Then, both times, while downloading my email, it went into bootloader mode. Any suggestions? Do you think another Rom might be more stable. Here is what the page says:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
It says "Serial" at the bottom, but it changes to "USB" when it's plugged in.
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I suspect it has something to do with being dropped in beer......
Did you immediately remove the battery? Did you clean off the beer? Did you let it completely dry before powering it back on?

Perhaps its hungover. Have you tried dropping it into a glass of aspirin?

I found a way to make my phone somewhat live-with-able.
Ok. My phone works exactly like it used to except it gets stuck in bootloader mode periodically. I installed the fixed Hard SPL that is supposed to address this issue but it probably wasn't designed to correct beer damage. lol However, I found something that allows the phone to boot up normally. It's this. It was one of several suggestions in the WIKI, and this way you don't lose all of your programs and stuff. The phone powers up normally if you leave out step three.
1. Connect via MTTY as described above (Type the following commands without quotes).
2. Type the "set 16 0" and press enter. This removes the RUUNBH flag.
*********************LEAVE OUT*************************************
3. Type "task 8" to format the device. Yes you will lose all your data - if this is a problem, leave out this step, but if the problem isn't fixed afterwards, you'll have to add it back in.
*********************LEAVE OUT*************************************
4. Type "task 0" to tell your device to reboot.
5. If the phone didn't reboot, manually reset it now.

drmc said:
Perhaps its hungover. Have you tried dropping it into a glass of aspirin?
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Definite win.

autonomous-inc said:
Definite win.
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perhaps some black coffee would help.

drmc said:
Perhaps its hungover. Have you tried dropping it into a glass of aspirin?
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5+ for top100 best answers lol

like one of the previous posters said, if you can take the thing apart and let it set and clean all of the surfaces with a contact cleaner, remeber like soda, beer also leaves a sticky residue that takes forever to truly harden.
my 8925 went into a pool after being pushed in and it was shocking me, it sucked but after a new battery and doing this it worked fine again but it took a week to fully remove/dry everything out.

Thanks.
I'm probably not skilled enough to take it apart. But I've let it dry out. I left it on a vent for three days. It works just like before, but it's still getting stuck in bootloader mode occasionally when it's turned off and then back on, despite installing cmonex's 3.56 Hard-2 spl and the most recent AT&T rom from HTC. I can easily use a Mitty "task 0" command to get it to boot up normally, so it's more of an annoyance really. I just have to make it a few more months until my upgrade. I guess the Fuze is still the best thing AT&T has out, right?
Also, I ordered a new non-oem battery off ebay, 1600 mah. In cmonex's patched spl thread, someone claims that bad batteries contribute to phones getting stuck at the bootloader screen. We'll see. It hasn't arrived yet.

Check here:
Viper's Guide to Water Damage
Trv06kviper said:
Viper’s Guide To Water Damaged PDA’s
This guide is to help anyone that has accidently left their phone in their pocket and went swimming,Went to answer a call and it fell in a puddle..etc, etc. I’ve worked for a major telecom company and have run into this situation so many times. Decided after dealing with this issue and reading so many myths, baking, rice…etc that are hit or miss and potentially very dangerous. Here’s a little guide that many people use with success to revitalize their wet cell phones.
Step 1: Immediately take the battery out of the phone and SHAKE any excess water off.
Step 2: Dry your phone first using a towel, wiping up anything that did not get shaken off. Now get a blow dryer on low heat and position it to blow on your phone about a hand, two hands length distance. Do this for about an hour or 2. Your phone should get alittle warm. If for any reason its hot to touch stop now. Let it cool off and increase the distance between the blow dryer and your phone. Also note, any ports that a covered need to be opened and memory cards, sim cards as well.
Step 3: after all visible water is gone or dry, place it in a small container (Tupperware works) slightly bigger than your phone. Now loosely pack your phone with cotton balls in your container. This works better than rice because it will not leave a white residue and it helps protect and keep your phone clean. You will let it sit overnight, at least 24 hours.
Step 4: Check on your phone, some of the cotton balls should be wet or moist. Inspect the phone, rotate it around and really look for any water. If it feels dry as a bone put the battery back in and fire it up. If it didn’t fire up check to make sure the battery is charged. If so then it may need some more time to dry out. DO NOT plug the phone into the wall charger and try to fire it up.
Step 5: If your phone did not fire up after 24hours BE PATIENT! Give it another 2 days then give it a go. It should fire up by now. If it doesn’t at that point use your wall charger. If at that point it doesn’t work, you need to consult some repairs.
Hope this helps
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Thanks to the forum.
After installing cmonex's patched hard spl (3.56), it's working really well. No bootloader mode in two days. Keeping my fingers crossed. I've reloaded all my favorite programs, and it's running them fine. Thanks everybody.

well, this is why I love my tilt: my dad dropped his iphone in the pitcher as well, and lo n' behold > it died instantly
tilt kikz azz

[Q] wet samsung captivate phone won't boot

I cant seem to find anyone else with this problem. I just washed my att samsung captivate. I let it dry out for a bit and started it up. It worked fine for quite a while then the touch screen stopped responding so i removed the battery.
When i turned it back on, it remained at the white screen with blue AT&T World phone until i removed the battery again. It continues to do this currently.
I have "reflashed" the firmware (atleast i think i have) back to its stock through the odin3 installer program. I'm not sure how important that is but the phone seems to communicate with the computer through usb.
I cannot do a hard reset kind of thing as holding the volume down and power button at the same time will not take me any further than the white w/blue text screen.
have i fried my phone? is there something i can do to get it to jump past the white and blue text screen?
thanks for any help.

Once a phone is wet u need to get a new one its never gonna work again.
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tylerpyatt said:
I just washed my att samsung captivate. I let it dry out for a bit and started it up. It worked fine for quite a while then the touch screen stopped responding so i removed the battery.
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I hope this is a joke. Washed?? Dried?? You should never use any kind of liquid around electronics unless you are water cooling your gamer pc.

cappysw10 said:
I hope this is a joke. Washed?? Dried?? You should never use any kind of liquid around electronics unless you are water cooling your gamer pc.
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Lol... Y would someone even put a phone near the water, that phone is dead bro.
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washing technique
I threw the phone in with a load of bed sheets.
Of course this wasn't done on purpose. It didn't get fully "washed" per se but only a bit wet. I'm not proud that I did this but what's done is done.
Lets pretend it had never been wet, is there anything that could cause it to stick at the att screen?
I was able to run the odin3 flash program without a hitch. Seems like the phone still is somehow able to work but just not get past the normal boot of the white w/blue text att screen. Any ideas???
If there are no possible fixes or all that's left are comments regarding my ignorance-- how would att know it has been wet. I know my ipod touch sat out in the rain for a bit and apple replaced it no questions asked since the earphone port thing showed no discoloration.
In the battery compartment there is a white square and on the battery another white square. are those the pieces that change color when wet? litmus paper i think? If so they are still white. Do these identify a "wet" phone?
The phone looks the same as it always has, no water behind the screen/camera lense or anything. I had a rubber case on it but the usb door was open.
How's my 1 year mysteriously broken phone warranty looking?

Those white parts would look red if wet ,is it red? I have tmobile for ,me if those parts are red I have to deal with my insurance, do u have insurance? Either then that u got to see wat att can do for u sorry I tried...
tylerpyatt said:
I threw the phone in with a load of bed sheets.
Of course this wasn't done on purpose. It didn't get fully "washed" per se but only a bit wet. I'm not proud that I did this but what's done is done.
Lets pretend it had never been wet, is there anything that could cause it to stick at the att screen?
I was able to run the odin3 flash program without a hitch. Seems like the phone still is somehow able to work but just not get past the normal boot of the white w/blue text att screen. Any ideas???
If there are no possible fixes or all that's left are comments regarding my ignorance-- how would att know it has been wet. I know my ipod touch sat out in the rain for a bit and apple replaced it no questions asked since the earphone port thing showed no discoloration.
In the battery compartment there is a white square and on the battery another white square. are those the pieces that change color when wet? litmus paper i think? If so they are still white. Do these identify a "wet" phone?
The phone looks the same as it always has, no water behind the screen/camera lense or anything. I had a rubber case on it but the usb door was open.
How's my 1 year mysteriously broken phone warranty looking?
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you can't pretend the phone was never wet.
If you get a phone wet - you need to pull the battery and put the phone in a bag of rice to dry it out (maybe for 2 days). Since you have turned it on many times, and tried to flash it, you have created all kinds of short circuits across the circuit boards.
At this point your only recourse would be to strip the phone down and look for corrosion on the circuit boards and try to clean it, but most likely you have fried something.
Only AT&T can tell you what they will do when they inspect it.

My first color screen phone. A sony ericson. Got washed and dried, twice. It still worked. Too bad they don't make phones like they used to. But then again that phone was no where near as bad ass as this.
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Are you sure you flashed it correctly? If you are at the ATT screen then you should be able to connect via adb and do an adb reboot download. Have odin one click running first. If it makes it to download mode click start. It should do everything it needs and reboot on its own in the OS.
If that fails you might have fried something.
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Try the rice
I dropped mine in the dog's water bowl on Thanksgiving. I retrieved it quickly and dried it out. It worked but had a few issues with force closing and auto-rotate not working. I removed the battery and SIM card and placed it in rice for 24 hours. It has worked fine since.
Good luck.

Recovery mode from Downloading mode
bobbylx said:
Are you sure you flashed it correctly? If you are at the ATT screen then you should be able to connect via adb and do an adb reboot download. Have odin one click running first. If it makes it to download mode click start. It should do everything it needs and reboot on its own in the OS.
If that fails you might have fried something.
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I can get the odin one click to run and complete its task. the phone will then reboot and stick at the att world phone screen. Is it at all possible to get from the downloading screen to the recovery screen? I can do the two volume buttons and connect usb to get to downloading but i cannot get to the recovery screen.
i've looked around and tried to figure out how to do adb stuff but i'm not understanding. is adb something i can do while the phone is in the downloading mode?
thanks

You can use adb while at the att screen but not download. Go to Dev section and check my thread Read Before Flashing, therre is some good adb info in it. You should be able adb reboot recovery.
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put it in rice for a couple days, than try starting it. if not try replacing the water indicators and go back to att warranty center and say it wont turn on or something. i did that once with a blackberry bold and they replaced it.

Completely bricked?

Hey all!
Today my phone seems to have completely died, it only boots into speedmod recovery but wont let me do anything in it, I managed to access the 'Install Zip from SD card' but there was nothing there it said. It wont boot into android what so ever. I again managed to access speedmod recovery and get to mount for storage mode which when connected shown no files.
It hasn't worked right since I was pushed over in town, I landed onto of my phone and it came out unscathed but since then it has crashed allot and the when I remove the back the smell of like when a capacitor has blown up (If you don't know that smell it's nasty, my tutor at college popped one to show us what happened, he was actually bored and wanted to do something fun and random XD) but yeah it stinks like that really bad.
I tried to boot into download mode and access it to install stocks but my computer hasn't picked it up at all in any way, doesn't even play the device connected or device faulty sound...
=/ I guess it is broken. What can you tell me? Any help would be awesome.
Scott

Hi, first of all don't panic until you have tried every possible fix.
I had once a problem when the phone only would boot up to an ugly exclamation mark and a drawing telling me to plug it to the computer, but the computer din't even notice when I plugged the phone so I supposed it was dead.
I would recommend you to try to make the JIG cable recommended in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551, I managed to put my phone in a working download mode and use odin to flash the SO again
Hope this helps

Hey! Thanks for the quick reply but unfortunately I tried this and nothing would happen. I had the download mode problem when I first tried to install custom roms, it worked then but unfortunately this time it hasn't =[

From what you say I would be very careful, from the smell you describe it sounds like a short somewhere, and could feasibly cause a fire , so pull the battery!
GTi 9000 insanity006/glitch

Smell of burned capacitor? Dude, dont turn it on.
Take battery off, disassemble it and watch the mainboard for any broken elements, if you have got a little electronic physics knowledge then take service manual, all onboard elements are marked there as R, C and so on, test them with multimeter, or ask someone to do it and pray you'll find damaged element. Start checking from power circuits (most likely the biggest capacitors sets onboard)
Also some soldering around may be broken, on battery circuit it would cause high temperature gain, use magnifying glass and little tool to make careful pressure to check it.
If some BGA chip unsoldered/bricked, then you are screwed. Maybe you know someone in hi tech service can resolder it for you, as usually it is not cheap.

Thanks for your help, I haven't disassembled the phone where the scent had grown stronger then faded slowly, I placed the battery back into the device enough so that the contacts were fully meeting and the scent came back strong. I will check it with a multi meter to see if there is any kind of fault to do with that.
Thanks again for your help, it is much appreciated =]

FIXED
Hey guys,
I just want to post a quick update to say I've got my Galaxy S working again. I managed to get the phone into download mode and it was eventually picked up in Odin3 I managed to get the phone working again, rooted and installed Darky's ROM 10 and as it turns out it is that causing the problem, sorry Darky but it doesn't work for me, 9.5 runs like a dream though so it's all good on that front.
Just got all my apps downloaded and installed and everything is in perfect order.
The wierd smell I spoke of in an earlier post is actually because of the wallet I kept my phone in, I've taken it out n it's stopped smelling so I've bought a new wallet for it, don't know why it smelled, probably because I kept my phone in my friends rucksack which has had alsorts spilled in it XD Thanks for the advice, it was much appreciated.

USB Issue with Odin

Hey everyone!
I'm not quite sure what happened to my Cappy
I'm able to get my phone into download mode by simply pressing the power button, but that's with the battery in it. When I plug it in while in download mode, it doesn't read in Odin - The second I remove the battery (while it's still plugged in) it dies. I tried using ADB to verify that it wasn't reading it, and it didn't read it. I tried all of this on two separate computers, so i doubt it is a driver issue. I'm assuming the USB port on the phone is toast. Any help/advice would be appricitated, as I am completely stumped
EDIT: I forgot to mention that it was using the gingerbread bootloader and running Apex 8.0

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See this Stickied Thread... Captivate Connection Issues and Download Mode Help

No Dice
I've tried everything mentioned in the sticky. I don't get any power when it's plugged into the AC adapter without the battery. When I turn on the phone it goes straight into download mode - no button combo required. Like I said before, I checked ADB, I've tried another OS (Ubuntu), two different windows computers, but to no avail.
... as embarrassing as this is, would it help to know that it went through the washing machine? Maybe that killed it

Uhhhhh....yep. That is probably why your buttons are messed up and u go to download mode by just turning the phone on. Don't know if u will be able to recover the phone from that kind of damage.
At least try to dry it out the best u can. U could put it in a ziplock bag with some rice (dessicant would be better), but it may be to far gone.
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Actually, rice is much too large to be all the effective at drying the innards, ESPECIALLY if its still assembled. The best way to dry out is to disassemble it right when the "moisture event" (lol) occurs get some 90% rubbing alcohol and a Q-Tip and lightly go over all the areas then let set to air dry.
The alcohol will mix with the water and make it evaporate much faster.
But at this point, it may be beyond the point where drying it could help. As its both been a while since it got wet, and its been powered on since then.

Funny now, but not when it happened----I washed and dried a Samsung Impression that i had way back. Needless to say the "dryer" did not help matters. It was a goner. Lol. But it was clean and smelled bounty fresh.

[Q] Dropped captivate in toilet

Yeah, another one of those threads. Definitely not my best moment..
But uh. Dropped my phone in the toilet. It turned off instantly and I tried to dry it off for a while. After 20 minutes or so, it seemed okay so I oh-so-brilliantly tried to turn it back on.
Screen was okay for the first 5 seconds and then it went haywire -- probably shorted somewhere? Just displayed gray lines and some random colors.
So now my phone is just off without any battery in it and I'm waiting for it to dry more.
Any advice on how I'd go about getting data off my phone and if I'm really lucky, fixing it? i.e. taking it apart and drying each part or replacing the screen, etc.
thanks!

There's the putting the phone in a bag of rice trick. The rice is supposed draw the moisture out.

robm1911 said:
There's the putting the phone in a bag of rice trick. The rice is supposed draw the moisture out.
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on vacation right now so anything like that is going to be difficult
Thanks for the heads up though.
Mostly interested in damage control at this point. So the first task is data retrieval.
Any programs/software I can use to transfer all the data off my phone? Control it remotely?
i.e. how can I just dump the memory, including flash memory, onto my computer remotely?
Using anything like tibu is going to be hard since the screen is botched.

I'm not sure of any apps like that and if there is it would prolly need to be on the device before it took the plunge (sorry I had to throw that one out). Now if after the phone dries out some if you can get power and rember which kernel you had you might be able to have someone post the button sequence to mount USB storage in recovery. I helped a friend do this when his screen broke but could still get into recovery. Vol- three times then power ect.
Best of luck

I'd say you should leave it off until you can do what (I think) Adam Outler said and soak it in 99% rubbing alcohol and dry it with a blowdryer. You're data's probably screwed as long as your phone is out of commission.

Adb dump should work i think
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