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So I decided that i wanted to try hero the other day so i did some searching and made sure i had everything required ....newest radio... check.....pvt board...check...rom ready to flash...check...i went through the whole proccess and got KiNgxKxROM up and running for at least a day and a half...then lastnight i was playing around with the phone and it reboot on its own (kinda like the random reboots i used to get when i first got the phone)...it went to the G1 screen then just went black..so i pulled the battery and tried to reboot...now i have no response from the phone what so ever...its totally dead as far as i can tell
i saw that someone had success by putting another sd card in and trying to boot but that does nothing for me
I am trying everything i can because somehow enough moisture crept into the phone to cause the little "your not getting another g1" sticker to turn red
any way i am hoping that some how my situation has a remedy but i doubt it does

newspeak said:
So I decided that i wanted to try hero the other day so i did some searching and made sure i had everything required ....newest radio... check.....pvt board...check...rom ready to flash...check...i went through the whole proccess and got KiNgxKxROM up and running for at least a day and a half...then lastnight i was playing around with the phone and it reboot on its own (kinda like the random reboots i used to get when i first got the phone)...it went to the G1 screen then just went black..so i pulled the battery and tried to reboot...now i have no response from the phone what so ever...its totally dead as far as i can tell
i saw that someone had success by putting another sd card in and trying to boot but that does nothing for me
I am trying everything i can because somehow enough moisture crept into the phone to cause the little "your not getting another g1" sticker to turn red
any way i am hoping that some how my situation has a remedy but i doubt it does
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this is not caused by the software sounds like your phone got a little wet some how and it messed up. try putting it in bowl of rice and if that does not work try a new battery.

tried a battery today at the store
i guess if it did get wet it could manifest itself a long time after the fact
well worth a shot regardless thanks for the advice

newspeak said:
tried a battery today at the store
i guess if it did get wet it could manifest itself a long time after the fact
well worth a shot regardless thanks for the advice
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yeah i split soda on a keyboard once it did not start acting strange for 3 or 4 days after that. and pull the battery and take it out then complete submerge it for at least a day. but the damage is most likely done

Hey, something similar happened to me a few months back.
I use to get a lot of random reboots and it was quiet annoying and then one day my phone rebooted and it had a black screen, I took the battery out and put it back in and the phone was unresponsive.
When you plug in the charger does the red LED turn on or is it dead?
Mine, the led never turned on but it go warm because it still charged the battery.
My motherboard in the phone was fried somehow, I can assure you this isn't from the Hero rom at all because my phone died before I was even into roms.
Call HTC America (or where ever your from) and then tell them your problem and ask for an RMA repair, if the same thing happened to your phone as mine then you don't have to worry about them finding any "illegal software" (Root, and anything else that didn't come on the phone besides apps) I had root enabled and that voids the warranty but there would be no way for them to check so they would just replace the mainboard and send it back. In total it cost me 8 dollars to ship the phone and I had it back within a week - two weeks.
I hope this helped out!
EDIT: Is your water damage sticker red? I wasn't able to understand weither it was or not. I think it is and I just spent this entire time typing this long post for nothing then eeep! If it is, get an LG Vu Battery and replace the sticker with the one on the battery, I'm pretty sure they are identical.

Eh both stickers are red
thanks again ...it actually makes me feel better that it wasn't me messing around with hero that got me here
It just sucks having to pay the same amount as they are currently charging new customers for the phone under contract through the stupid insurance

PC help - I'm a little stuck

Any help would be grateful on this one
I have just changed the heat sink on my 9300 wifi ITX motherboard GF9300-D-E.
It will not boot windows as it gets to the starting screen and stops. Then when i tried linux it will kernal panic and not boot that either.
I thought it was memory and removed one of the sticks. This is when things started to get strange. The bios screen did not fit my monitor as it should, has done previously, also there are strange flickering on this as well.
So i have tried it with both sticks in one stick [both tried]
Now I am a little stuck as to what it can be. I have also reset the bios to a default state to see if that was the problem and it was not.
There is also the issue that on some boots the bios will not fully load up.
If this is not an issue with the motherboard then i am sorry but i am a little stuck for the reason at the moment.
So anyone any ideas on this as I'm a little stuck. Any other info will be added if you think its necessary but i think its all covered.
Please help I miss my desktop, my ageing 5 yr laptop really does not cut it any more

have you tried safe mode? press f8 when windows is starting. if you get a blue screen post what the error message is.

Yeh the one time i got that far i had
Page_access_in_non_paged_area
That was also on a recovery boot of windows.
Next time nothing happened...
Also i get weird graphics glitches on the memory test from ubuntu. if that means anything to anyone

chris10230 said:
Yeh the one time i got that far i had
Page_access_in_non_paged_area
That was also on a recovery boot of windows.
Next time nothing happened...
Also i get weird graphics glitches on the memory test from ubuntu. if that means anything to anyone
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i need the stop code. it goes like this 0x000000 and so on.

Yeh i would love to post that error message but i cannot get that far until it crashes
I got to the windows system recovery hit enter, then it stopped working
Now it wont even give me a video output! Really starting to think its hardware, but what hardware i do not know. Later im gonna try some RAM from my house mates pc and see if it does any better. If that doesn't work then i think i may be RMAing the motherboard as its the only other thing it can be!
If you have any more ideas joe then i would be welcome to hear them as i would rather not go down the RMA route...
Wish id noted down that bluescreen when it came up now

sounds like your video card. is your video card onboard or add in?

on board but i can disable if i have an external one, i can try this as well house mate has a spare will get back to you when i have tried that one as well.
If it is that then def an rma job. Also i would not be surprised it has been idling at 70/80 degrees C for about 8 months due to the passive cooler i had on it.

Hey,
I had this error, and a range of other ones, stuff like Memory_Error etc (can't remember codes), on my laptop earlier this year.
I tried memtextx86, and burnin, as I suspected it was an issue with ram - I also tried 3 different sets of rams, with different combinations of sticks. Nothing worked.
Unfortunatley, I took it back to the manufacturer and it was the motherboard had gone faulty.
I hope this isn't the case for you, but those 2 programs may be worth trying. Just as a note, neither reported any issues with the ram.
When in windows (vista at the time) I could not be in for more then 20mins without a system hang and crash. Although I did have video out.
Hope this helps
Stu

If the only thing you changed before it started to play up was the heat sink, its probably the cause.
If its turning on and then playing up after a period of time for no apparent reason it could be heat.
Is the heatsink on the right way? I put my amd stock heatsink on backwards when I installed it, didn't notice for 2 months, it wasn't touching the processor at all. Funny when I look back on it.
Did you put thermal paste on it? I once thought it would be a great idea to clean all of that gunk off my cpu, not so good in hindsight.
Hope it helps,
They say you learn from your mistakes, an I've broke more computers than I can count.

stu i shall try at the weekend one more exam and im free for another year!
and mercianary yeh i did clean the paste off, i did apply paste, but going back is a good point as i think there may be slight sizing issues with the heatsink i changed it for. As for temps, not real problem i think as i want from a passive heat sink to one with a fan so it must be cooler, that was the idea anyway.
It was idling at 45-55 if it did anything that needed the whole chip, its a 3ghz core2duo it hit 65 easy and it starts to underclock at 70 so i wanted it to be cooler so i could use all the power all of the time! In hindsight a bad idea.
Also on the grounds of the stock cooler that is broken as it kinda got stuck on the motherboard when i put it on one of the clips went straight through and jammed....
anyway everyone who has replied thanks i will come back when i have done some testing.

I dropped my phone in the toilet! help!

Hey guys, need some help here, I was takin a leak while texting and I dropped my phone in lol. Well I tried the soaking in rice trick, it helped, it turns on now but the touch screen and key board don't work. Its really slow and almost unresponsive. the menu talk home back and end buttons seem to barely work. So here's the deal, I need my contacts off the phone. I have some saved to the sim but most were saved to the phone. I can't get to the home screen because I have a lock pattern, and the touch screen doesn't work. I never did that google sync deal so I can't log in and get them from google. What can I do guys? Please help.

The Unknown 777 said:
What can I do guys? Please help.
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Buy a new phone

That's genius good thinking. I don't care about the phone I just need to get the contacts off, does anybody know a way?

If you can ADB into the phone, you may still be able to pull the files off. I don't know how useful they would be on anything but a rooted Android phone though (meaning I don't know how Android stores the contact info.)

Sorry man but what's adb? And its not rooted or modified in any way. I tried using mymobiler but that didn't work either

Install the latest SDK tools here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
and to install them' follow these directions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719

Ok ill try that tonight when I get home, but am I gonna be able to install that on my phone the way it is? It will boot up to the lock pattern screen but I can't go any farther than that

You don't need to mount your phone or anything
just connect the phone via USB cable to the computer and install the drivers.
The instructions are also on the 2nd link I've given you.

Let it dry then turn on.

Put it in the sun and use a blow dryer to attempt and salvage it...
Sucks man, never had it happen to me but someone very wise told me the above.

pull apart
rinse with rubbing alcohol
let dry
place on aluminum foil
place in oven ~ 200 for 10-20 minutes
let cool
reassemble
power on and hope for the best

Or put in a baggy full of rice.

actually if put it in a bowl (a bag will trap moisture) of wheat or long grain rice (no uncle bens) and let it soak. Its happened to me before and the rice sucks out the moisture everytime. Take phone apart, battery, sdcard sim let it sit in rice for a few days.
Don't watch it though, its worse than watching water boil. Give up on it, and let it surprise you with a Dream.
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Or put in a baggy full of rice.
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water had minerals in it that conduct electricity.... and moisture in the air could cause it to conduct and kill the phone even more/all the way. rice will not remove the minerals. alcohol on the other had does, and evaporates. baking it removes the moisture

This worked for me before
It wasn't an android phone but I've dropped a window's mobile phone and it JUST SO HAPPENS to end up right in a cup of juice. Not only that, but I put it in a bowl of water to make sure the circuits didn't get messed up from dried up sugar per advice from someone on google and then took the battery, back sim card, etc out/apart and sat it in front of a fan for a few days. After about the 4th or 5th (I don't remember) it came back on. The screen wasn't "FULLY" functional until a couple of days after that, but you might at least be able to get it on enough to get your info. Hope that helps.....

I'm 99% sure you DID log into Google. If you're not rooted I'm 100% sure you logged into Google. After that contacts auto sync is pretty much automatic to your Google account unless you are a complete idiot and disabled it from settings.

Phones are too complicated for DIY stuff, hardware-wise at least.
When you drop a phone (or any electronic device) in water, the first thing you do is pull out the battery immediately, and all other power inputs, and don't even think about touching the power button, and then take it to a professional repair shop.
Phones contain BGA chips, which is complicated and hard to deal with, the slightest moisture under or in the chip (that's right, inside the chip, read about BGA Baking) might cause disasters, or at least instability, and only professionals trained in the BGA & Phones (not just any pro) field should handle it.
Source: Experience and field of work
And about the contacts problem, could you give us more info, like SPL version? totally Stock ROM? RC29?
If you get a recovery image on this phone, you can do a BART backup, and restore it on another one, and get your contacts, should work, but I never tried it.

Ok guys this is what I have so far. its been soaking in rice for a while now, but I was an idiot and powered it on right after I got it wet, I also powered it on several times periodically to check on it. I can still turn it on now but like I said keyboard and touch screen are f***ed. I'm using my new g1 so I don't feel like quoting everybody so ill just go like this,
To the guy that gave me the guide on installing the sdk, here's the issues I'm having. I'm unable to even get sdk setup to work. I downloaded the drivers, I put them in the android sdk folder which is on c:/. When I connect my phone even though I uninstalled the driver fot android with deviewer every time I would reconnect it, it automatically reinstalled the android driver as a mass storage device. So I went into the control panel and installed the adb driver manually. Now when I connect it, it pops up as android adb. However sdk setup still doesn't work. When I click setup it flashes a command prompt for a split second and does nothing else. Ill also say my pc is junk and and I can't open cmd or task manager for some reason(virus maybe?) So what am I missing here?
To whoever asked what version and stuff the phone is, I believe its the latest update and I haven't done any soft mods to it, not rooting or anything.
To whoever said something about doing a BART back up and transferring files to my new g1, how do I do that? that's what I really need to do.

ar2000jp said:
Phones are too complicated for DIY stuff, hardware-wise at least.
When you drop a phone (or any electronic device) in water, the first thing you do is pull out the battery immediately, and all other power inputs, and don't even think about touching the power button, and then take it to a professional repair shop.
Phones contain BGA chips, which is complicated and hard to deal with, the slightest moisture under or in the chip (that's right, inside the chip, read about BGA Baking) might cause disasters, or at least instability, and only professionals trained in the BGA & Phones (not just any pro) field should handle it.
Source: Experience and field of work
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before moisture sensitive components (IC/BGA/FBGA/etc) are run through assembly those components are brought up to 125c (257f) for 4 hours to drive the moisture out. then they are place on the PBC with the pick and place after they get the solder mask. then placed into the soldering oven.
The Unknown 777 said:
Ok guys this is what I have so far. its been soaking in rice for a while now, but I was an idiot and powered it on right after I got it wet, I also powered it on several times periodically to check on it. I can still turn it on now but like I said keyboard and touch screen are f***ed. I'm using my new g1 so I don't feel like quoting everybody so ill just go like this,
To the guy that gave me the guide on installing the sdk, here's the issues I'm having. I'm unable to even get sdk setup to work. I downloaded the drivers, I put them in the android sdk folder which is on c:/. When I connect my phone even though I uninstalled the driver fot android with deviewer every time I would reconnect it, it automatically reinstalled the android driver as a mass storage device. So I went into the control panel and installed the adb driver manually. Now when I connect it, it pops up as android adb. However sdk setup still doesn't work. When I click setup it flashes a command prompt for a split second and does nothing else. Ill also say my pc is junk and and I can't open cmd or task manager for some reason(virus maybe?) So what am I missing here?
To whoever asked what version and stuff the phone is, I believe its the latest update and I haven't done any soft mods to it, not rooting or anything.
To whoever said something about doing a BART back up and transferring files to my new g1, how do I do that? that's what I really need to do.
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maybe its just the way you wrote it... but you know the rice should be dry.......
Stop powering it on. you will need to wait several days

Maybe I should try the alcohol thing? I did drop it in a toilet full of dank piss bowl cleaner. I just don't want to take a risk of frying it if something messes up before I get the files off

USB Issue with Odin

Hey everyone!
I'm not quite sure what happened to my Cappy
I'm able to get my phone into download mode by simply pressing the power button, but that's with the battery in it. When I plug it in while in download mode, it doesn't read in Odin - The second I remove the battery (while it's still plugged in) it dies. I tried using ADB to verify that it wasn't reading it, and it didn't read it. I tried all of this on two separate computers, so i doubt it is a driver issue. I'm assuming the USB port on the phone is toast. Any help/advice would be appricitated, as I am completely stumped
EDIT: I forgot to mention that it was using the gingerbread bootloader and running Apex 8.0

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See this Stickied Thread... Captivate Connection Issues and Download Mode Help

No Dice
I've tried everything mentioned in the sticky. I don't get any power when it's plugged into the AC adapter without the battery. When I turn on the phone it goes straight into download mode - no button combo required. Like I said before, I checked ADB, I've tried another OS (Ubuntu), two different windows computers, but to no avail.
... as embarrassing as this is, would it help to know that it went through the washing machine? Maybe that killed it

Uhhhhh....yep. That is probably why your buttons are messed up and u go to download mode by just turning the phone on. Don't know if u will be able to recover the phone from that kind of damage.
At least try to dry it out the best u can. U could put it in a ziplock bag with some rice (dessicant would be better), but it may be to far gone.
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Actually, rice is much too large to be all the effective at drying the innards, ESPECIALLY if its still assembled. The best way to dry out is to disassemble it right when the "moisture event" (lol) occurs get some 90% rubbing alcohol and a Q-Tip and lightly go over all the areas then let set to air dry.
The alcohol will mix with the water and make it evaporate much faster.
But at this point, it may be beyond the point where drying it could help. As its both been a while since it got wet, and its been powered on since then.

Funny now, but not when it happened----I washed and dried a Samsung Impression that i had way back. Needless to say the "dryer" did not help matters. It was a goner. Lol. But it was clean and smelled bounty fresh.

I9000 Spontaniously off.

I've never had any problems with my I9000, but now I found my I9000 dead in my pocket, tried to turn it on, and it went on but went directly off in the last boot screen, Like the battery got removed. I've found out that when I press the back of the phone a bit, the phone goes off. also when I normally boot it, put it on the table and don't touch it, it goes off after a while too. I have 3 battery's and the problem happens on each of them. Now I am wondering where the problem could be. I have removed the motherboard completely and put it back and didn't work. I hope someone can help me out
Thanks in advance,
Armazia

Armazia said:
I've never had any problems with my I9000, but now I found my I9000 dead in my pocket, tried to turn it on, and it went on but went directly off in the last boot screen, Like the battery got removed. I've found out that when I press the back of the phone a bit, the phone goes off. also when I normally boot it, put it on the table and don't touch it, it goes off after a while too. I have 3 battery's and the problem happens on each of them. Now I am wondering where the problem could be. I have removed the motherboard completely and put it back and didn't work. I hope someone can help me out
Thanks in advance,
Armazia
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Okay, well a little update, I have removed the motherboard again and heated it up with a hairdryer, Now it actually works, but heavy shocks will also preform an instant death, I think it has something to do with the soldering of the cpu... I guess I'll heat it up again and more, see if that takes care of some things.