Trying very hard to keep the Internal Storage on my Eris @ 50% . Wonder how low I can really go before I run into issues ???? Too bad I'm not rooted otherwise I would move/install some of my apps to my 16GB MSD card.
gemro311 said:
Trying very hard to keep the Internal Storage on my Eris @ 50% . Wonder how low I can really go before I run into issues ???? Too bad I'm not rooted otherwise I would move/install some of my apps to my 16GB MSD card.
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Just try to make sure you're only hanging on to apps you actually use versus something that was cool for like 10 minutes and then forgotten. I would also reccomend wiping dalvik cache every now and then. Also there's a cool little app called app monster that allows you to store apps on your sd card. you can't run them but if its something you dont want to get rid of then you can have a back up.
why does it matter if your internal storage is at 50%?
Maybe a bit of obsessive complusive (not saying this to be derogatory) mixed with hoping to keep his phone as fast as possible?
Don't know about the compulsive part, but yeah I am looking to keep my phone "mean and lean". I gather I can load up my phone with tons of Apps and not be concerned about how little storage space I wind up with. By the way I am a Windows person , and learned the hard way . Tis not the case with Android?
Yea, the system paths are set up a little different in that respect. What's holding you back from rooting? If you're leaked, I understand, and sympathize. If it's warranty issues, then you can always recover and go back to stock. If you aren't sure how to do it, well there are plenty of how-to's and helpful people here. Apps 2 SD is pretty nice, and that's just the beginning...muahaha.
I was leaked the day it came out in March ..just my luck . Just wondered about space. Saw/heard on another forum where someone ran out of space and ran into issues. To me this is the best forum to get positive answers
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I had apps2sd by lucidrem running on my phone and it was fine. I was out today and my sd card was 'removed' although I didn't touch it. This ended up bricking my phone, because the sd is removed and there is no data or delvik etc. Is there a method to use apps2sd without it being permanently affected when an sd is removed?
A reinstall of rom has fixed it however I have lost everything off the phone now
Thanks
Tucka
LucidRem's Apps2SD uses symlinks which I believe is now preferred over the one used by MarcusMaximus (forgot what its called ) only way to remove a sdcard safely without screwing up your phone is if the phone is turned off. No idea how the sdcard was 'removed' if you didn't touch it. Happened sometimes to me, but never found out what caused it. Hope this helps.
Best to apply Apps2SD again really or use a ROM that automatically enables it by default if a partition exists (Cyanogen/Dude).
Also a small sidenote... The term "brick" means your device would no longer be functional at all, I.E Unable to turn it on using any method. A more suitable term would probably be "crashed" instead.
I only mention this because the term bricked is being used far too loosely to describe the wrong symptoms.
Sorry for loosing brick loosly, just presumed that was what it was when the phone won't get past the G1 splash. So, say I want to watch a movie or something on a different memory card (won't be able to fit all my stuff on one) all I have to do is switch phone off, remove memory card, insert different one (preferably also with a2sd configured for meridian video?) and that will work?
I think the problem is with movement and sudden knocks that the card comes out. I was running through a storm when it said memory card was removed.
Thanks
No worries about the terms as there are an awful lot of them in the world of technology! Long as we're all learning then we can't argue ^_^
To be honest, hot swapping SD cards is a bit long winded... Its best to save up and invest in a larger memory card if possible (Class 6). Not sure what size your SD card is, but if it can't hold a movie then it could be time to buy a new one.
Also if you use the older Apps2SD program (1.1 I believe) it uses Symlinks as alritewhadeva mentioned and it shouldn't cause your phone to crash totally if the SD card is removed.
Best solution though is to buy a new SD card, you should be able to find one on the cheap on the net.
its an 8gb C4, however I am travelling and will be on a 10 hour flight later this month, and was wanting lots of films and tv shows etc. May just compress and squeeze them onto my 8GB.
Thanks a lot
Tucka
using a2sd and 2 memory cards doesnt work. All your app data and cache is on your sd card and the phone wont be able to boot without the right sd card in the phone (trust me i have tried). I suggest buying a new card maybe 16 gb.
Hope they have a charging point on your flight! It would kill your battery watching a movie for that long haha. Better off with an iPod/MP3 player I reckon.
But yeah, you can either add more compression or reduce the resolution/framerate to fit more on your SD card. Quality will drop but at least it will keep you entertained.
2 batteries plus a portable battery charger ftw
Haha, that should be sufficient then! Very well prepared ^_^ I was thinking about getting one of those wind up backup chargers for emergancy use once... No idea if its any good.
If everything is sorted tuka, could you please edit the title to add "[SOLVED]" so people know? Thanks!
i got a few questions...
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
1) I assume you mean 36 MB of RAM available? Not internal memory? If so, yes that is actually very good, I average less than 25 and tend to stay under 20 MB
2) There are ROMs on the G1 going all the way up to 2.2, I for one have chosen to stick to 1.6 because, I know many people will disagree with me on this, but I simply just believe the G1's hardware wasn't really meant to go anywhere above 1.6. 2.2 and anything above 1.6 in my opinion is a bit too slow and cumbersome for me. I believe you should make the move to 1.6, maybe SuperD which is what I have been using for half a year now. 1.6 more closely integrates the search function and search tools, when you upgrade to 1.6 you will quickly see what I mean by that and it tends to cause a bit of lag and takes a large chunk of memory, though it is more convenient.
3) Well... you can use it for ADB (Android Debug Bridge). You can use it with Android ScreenCast, which is a program that allows you to use your G1 from your computer as long as it is connected to your phone, you can see whats on the screen, click, etc.
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I don't know if you have rooted your phone or not, but you will definitely need to do that first. Find instruction for that, there are only like a couple dozen threads telling how on XDA.
Find your ROM, again I recommend a 1.6 ROM, but feel free to give 2.2 a try and see if you like it. Install it, do be careful and read the instructions very carefully, especially when it comes to flashing a new radio image, you can brick your phone rendering it unusable.
So just look those things up, follow instructions carefully, reread everything in the instructions before doing anything and of course, in the case you do mess up, I can't be held responsible, I just provided you with a start. Best of luck!
there was an update to 1.6 so im on 1.6 now
since the g1 appears to have a limited amount of ram, is apps2sd worth it, say if i get a class 6 sd card of newegg, how difficult is it to install apps to the sd, and what is the performance
will the sd card deteriorate over time and lose performance?
i just want to put together the most efficient longest lasting setup
btw my i was checking my ram i guess through the task manager app, my free internal memory is like 50+mb..i dont see the point of an sd card if its not even being used, so running apps off the sd is what interests me, i dont have much other reasons to root
RAM really doesn't have that much to do with Apps2SD. I believe you should go ahead with the Apps2SD, but it really depends on how many applications you have. If you have anymore than 30 or so applications, you should go with Apps2SD. I for one am not certain about the effects of low internal memory, except that it gives you an alert every once in a while. My phone has "grown up" with Apps2SD from the start, so I don't have much experience on how a phone runs without it. The thing with Apps2SD is that it might be a hair slower than storing in internal memory, but that is a given. I use a Class 4 SD card and it still runs really nicely, a Class 6 SD card should definitely be good.
The lifetime of an SD card is pretty dicey, it really depends. SD cards have a certain amount of read and write cycles they can do before they finally kill over. Using Apps2SD will be a bit more harder on the SD card, especially if you use a Swap partition too. I use both, and my SD card is still working even a year and a half later.
One benefit, though I don't know how much this means to you, more internal storage data gives you more storage for system applications, such as for Contacts, text messages, etc.
A word of warning though, as using these features like Swap and Apps2SD does put more work on the SD card, the chance of error and corruption on the card itself increases a bit too. So far, I have had two instances in the year and a half where my SD card simply just blanked out. The first time around I lost everything that was on it, music, pictures and all my applications and application data and my phone could no longer boot (this was an issue with older ROMs back in the day of Android 1.0 and when everyone though Cupcake was a myth, when running Apps2SD, the phones would need the SD card to boot, it is no longer a problem). Just a suggestion, backup what is on your SD card every once in a while. I don't mean to scare you with that, it is extremely rare for that to happen, I believe I was just unlucky.
With Apps2SD, I actually feel a lot more free on my phone. I can install tons of applications and not have to worry about running out of memory, I have over 100 applications installed, which the internal memory (because of the applications I have) can't even hold.
So to wrap it up, I apologize for the long winded explanations, I say go Apps2SD, it really is worth it. Most of the ROMs today support automatic Apps2SD, whenever you install an application it just automatically goes onto your Ext3 partition. (Yes, you will need to repartition your SD card to have an Ext3 partition as well as a Swap partition if you want, this can be done really easily with Amon's Recovery Image.) In some ROMs, you can just go to the settings/ Spare Parts section and check Apps2SD.
so basically app2sd has only to do with the internal memory...it will not help free the ram even with a swap drive, is this what your saying correct
it will help only with installed applications
Yes that is correct, Apps2SD is designed to keep internal storage memory free and open for other things like text messages, call logs, internet data (cache, cookies, etc) and cache data for other applications like Google Maps and the Android Market.
where are the text messages stored by default, in the internal memory or the sim card, cause my old phone could hold only 25 messages in the sim card, how does this work on here
Messages are stored in internal memory and no where else, they can be moved to the SIM card with other applications, though space is extremely limited there.
hitman3x said:
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
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This is a linux based system.. "free" memory is pretty much meaningless. Stop worrying about it. Task manager apps are a waste of time and actually cause a lot of problems in android.
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2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
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Why don't you root your phone and find that out for yourself? Everyone has their own favourite build so you won't get many meaningful answers here.
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3) what else can you do with the usb cable
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Err.. I don't know.. lace your shoes with it? That's an odd question.
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3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
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Well once rooted, with most roms you can tether your pc to your phone for internet access (using the phone as a modem so to speak). useful if you are in dire need of internet access using a pc/laptop with no current available wired connection.
alright i figured most of this out i tried thedudes lite and dwang 1.17.1 build
the only problem i have is any build on donut (1.6) makes my camera not work the camera closes unexpectedly all the time (full wipe)
on cupcake its completely fine
I have read about Memory Leakage and I think that is the best way to describe what is going on with my Hero. I am Running Damage Controls last ROM and my memory keeps going away until I get the low memory icon. This has been going on for a few months now. Three months ago the problem first showed its head. So I start cleaning everything out. I do not store ANY email, texts, SMS or anything that I have control of on the phone. I do not sync with facebook, Gmail, Twitter or any of those other services. But my memory keeps "leaking" away. I got a cache cleaner, I have dumped all but three programs that I put on off the phone and while I first beat this back to 40mb to 30mb to 20mb and now I can't get it above 18mb. It's like every time there is a program up date from the Market it loads a whole new program and the old one stays. At least that is what it seemed like. I have been told to dump DC's rom and move on to something else but I like the phone and what it does when it works. I have the usual problems with slow dialing and bluetooth connection problems and that kind of stuff but all in all the phone works pretty good except for this memory problem. No I don't have apps2sd working but I don't think that would matter at this point as I have mentioned I have had this phone back up to 40mb and that memory over time just leaks away. Any idea's??? Is there another rom like Damages where the phone looks pretty stock? I am really used to the way it works and hate the idea of setting it up again. But if that is the recommendations I get from this forum I gather this is where I will have go.
Any help or idea's will be greatly appreciated. As I mentioned installing a new ROM is a last resort for me and if that is where I have to go then some suggestions would be appreciated too.............
Thanks so much.........
Lisa
That's not memory leakage, that's just from apps. Install apps2sd... then you won't have to deal with that problem.
Or use Firerat's custom partitions to free up a ton of space in data.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
Okay, aps2sd is the way to go. Being I'm not a total computer wiz I have to study how to do this. So, Firerat was mentioned and how do I do the apps2sd thing? I realize I have to back up my sd card to my PC and that is no problem and the Damage Control Rom that I have has a toggle that I can check to move the apps to the SD card so I think I'm okay there. But I have to partition and reformat my SD card. I have never done that before. Could you give me a link that I can go to so I can read all the instructions on how to do this. I have Titanium so I am well backed up there and I have recent Nandroid backups but partitioning the SD card is the trick I haven't done yet. Can I take the card out of my phone and do it with a card reader on my PC or do I have to do it through the phone? You can see the kind of help I need here and while I have resisted doing any more to my phone I think if I can free up this internal memory ALL my issues with the HERO and Damage Controls last ROM will go away for me.
As usual I appreciate the links and all you help............
Lisa
To partition your SD card:
BACK UP SD CARD CONTENTS TO YOUR PC
boot into recovery
partition sdcard
partition sd
follow instructions
i personally set the data partition to 256 MB, but even with ~100 apps i still have like 100 MB free. there are many other size options.
i forgot the other numbers it asks for (like cache or dalvik partition), but you can leave them at zero.
back in the Partition sdcard menu, choose SD:ext2 to ext3
reboot
now you can enable a2sd and retransfer your backed up sdcard contents from your PC. you will probably need to reboot for a2sd to move your apps and take effect
Were you using Damage Controls ROM?
You're instructions are very straight forward and that is kind of the way I saw the process too. I'll back up everything before I start and I'll give it a go when I get a chance.........
I was not using DamageControl ROM, but I have a hunch that's how it will work.
Interesting thing, I was just looking through Damage Control's "control panel" and apps2sd is checked already. Looking at Titanium Backups "control panel on their latest version it shows memory or storage usage for Phone Memory, Apps2sd and SD card usage and it shows that I have stuff in there already even though I have NOT partitioned my SD card. How can that be??? I guess these are the kind of things that come up when you use a ROM that has been abandoned by the developer. I really like everything about this ROM But this memory thing has gotten to be a real problem. I guess if I partition the SD card I will get it working faster? Or working completely? But this is an interesting question I think..........
Any feed back on this discovery would be helpful too..............
I'm having some trouble lately, maybe the past week? I keep seeing low memory, and I'll go in and delete some apps and it'll go away, and keeps coming back, I've cleared all my caches and such and am still hovering around 15-16MB of memory.. I rooted my phone about a month ago and flashed Fresh 2.4.0 onto it, and have really liked it versus stock! But, this low memory thing has me a little worried.. I've tried searching and haven't found much, anybody have any advice for me?
I've found that after wiping data and reinstalling my apps, I gained about 50 megs. Even with all the same apps and data from titanium restore... Just a lot of trash gets built up over time (it had been months since I had wiped data)
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Andrew486 said:
I'm having some trouble lately, maybe the past week? I keep seeing low memory, and I'll go in and delete some apps and it'll go away, and keeps coming back, I've cleared all my caches and such and am still hovering around 15-16MB of memory.. I rooted my phone about a month ago and flashed Fresh 2.4.0 onto it, and have really liked it versus stock! But, this low memory thing has me a little worried.. I've tried searching and haven't found much, anybody have any advice for me?
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Use firerat's internal partition mod...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754805
It repartitions the internal space. When youre donr you have 2-300 mb of space for apps and cache. Very simple to do
you have a few choices here
1. switch to an odex'd build these have more internal space because of how odexing works
2. modify your partition like PMDColeslaw suggested
3. delete some of the apps your not using, i know on my phone i can name atleast 6 apps i have installed that i use barely at best
Andrew486 said:
I'm having some trouble lately, maybe the past week? I keep seeing low memory, and I'll go in and delete some apps and it'll go away, and keeps coming back, I've cleared all my caches and such and am still hovering around 15-16MB of memory.. I rooted my phone about a month ago and flashed Fresh 2.4.0 onto it, and have really liked it versus stock! But, this low memory thing has me a little worried.. I've tried searching and haven't found much, anybody have any advice for me?
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If you switch to cm, you'll gain about 50 mb of storage immediately
Sent from my hero running froyo... take that Sprint!
Holler y'all, I'm hoping you might be able to lend me a hand with these here droid troubles, you see I was fiddling with my Streak and I seem to have broken something kinda important. My droid now tells me my internal storage has a total space of 0.00B on which 2.15GB of applications are installed, contradiction I know. What's kinda weirdypants is that I seem to be able to install new apps fine, but when I try to use the camera I get the "Please insert an SD card before using the camera" nonsense. I should probably note that I also have an external SD plopped into the slot. So there's actually two SD cards, why the camera doesn't see either I ain't got a scoob.
So how did I get here? Well... I had been using that CM10.1 rom, which was quite shexy and all, but the lack of camera and the constant crashing that required a reset made it too unreliable for my use. I decided to downgrade back to Honeycomb and everything seemed to point towards StreakDroid-HD7-R8, but things went a little sideways and I ended up in a boot loop. Perhaps I shouldn't be fiddling with things when I'm so shleepy. Anyways I got my paws on a stock rom and managed to install it with fastboot and recovery. Everything looked fine and I went ahead with setting it up and installing apps, until I got errors about the SD not having enough space to install some apps when it really should've had plenty. I rooted it, tried clearing caches, formatted it, but there was no change except for me having to install all my apps again. Oh yeah, I couldn't backup in Titanium either. So here I am.
Perhaps the SD is dying, perhaps I corrupted it with my fiddling, maybe it's something to do with the partitioning, maybe it's something else? If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, please share.
Also, if the SD is to be retired, is there anyway of redirecting apps which would normally use the internal SD use the external instead, for example the camera app?
Thanks in advance.
That is becuase CM10.1 changes the partition tables.
Does not anyone read around here? There is like 10 people who have posted the exact same thing.
You need to restore to Android 2.2 and then upgrade from there.
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That is becuase CM10.1 changes the partition tables.
Does not anyone read around here? There is like 10 people who have posted the exact same thing.
You need to restore to Android 2.2 and then upgrade from there.
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Offt, that was a tad fiesty. My apologies hombre, I do read and I've ready plenty on this forum, but I guess I haven't read the right threads, perhaps I didn't know the right combination of words to search for. Slap me with a wet fish and shower me in stale coco pops - I am a daftie! You're a mighty fellow, so I shant be cheeky, you've spent a great deal of time making the streak more awesome for all of us, which I do appreciate greatly. Thank you.
Now when you say restore to Android 2.2, are we talking stock ROM here? And do I have to do anything special beforehand or is it just a case of plopping the ROM on my SD and restoring? Thanks kindly for your help captain.
You need to grab the NVFlash pack to restore to Android 2.2, which will also restore the Dell crappy partition tables.
Look at TheManii's DevHost page, he should have it.
Partition tables had to be changed as Dell did not correctly do Android, resulting in the sdcard daemon being broken, so they created something called like "oem_sdcard". If they had just done it right the first time, we would be in this predicament.
Oh and anytime you need to be slapped by fishes, I'm more than glad to. If you had merely scanned the General section, before you posted, you would have seen at least, three threads, where people were having the same problem, and where each time I already stated the exact same thing that you needed to do.
I'll take the slap. I think I spent most of my time in the Dev section, yet I post here in General, you see, that is why I am daftie! My internal compass is corrupted.
Many thanks for the help and info, perhaps someone should slap Dell with a fish? Anyways I best go correct my wrongs now.
I have read many threads and I have the same problem. However, I already used nvflash to repartition my Dell and revert back to 2.2.2. I then updated back to Honeycomb 3.2 and I still have this issue. I ran it a couple times... repartition and restore back to 2.2.2 but still no luck. Any thoughts? Sorry to respond to such an old thread, just fishing for any ideas.
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xcover2 Same issue
I am facing same issue with my xcover2 , any solutions ?