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If I install unbuto on my computer will I still have access to files allready on hard drive? Is is able to use my wifi etc.?
wifi should work, with jaunty. as for the files i believe anything but what is in itunes u can import. good luck!
I have a sneaking suspicion that you might want to first learn how to spell your chosen distro's name before attempting to make the leap from Windows to Linux.
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If I install unbuto on my computer will I still have access to files allready on hard drive? Is is able to use my wifi etc.?
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What does this have to do with the HTC Dream/TMobile G1 devices?
I have to agree that on first look, it does appear that the G1 is unrelated to ubuntu and linux...
However...after getting a G1 with it's open source OS and no longer needing the horrible mess that is activesync, I too have moved to open source on my desktop (well, laptop...) - I tried ubuntu but switched to Mint (which is based on ubuntu but I prefer it).
Android is so easy going that it'll work with any operating system and is one of the first phones I've had where it is an easy fit. I've even managed to sort out music syncing similar to itunes or Winamp for android and I'm well happy.
I very rarely boot into my windows partition any more and that is thanks to android.
As regards the question about accessing your files, yes, most of them will be compatible with linux equivalents but back everything up before you install it - in most cases, putting it on will require at the least, some messing with partitions on your disk which is inherently risky, and at worst, a total re-format.
I keep my windows around for games (C&C!!!) and very little else nowadays and am more than happy with linux.
So's my phone ;-)
if youre on vista it is a b*ich to partition since it takes up space it is not even using, but yea you should be able to keep youre files
I was wondering if anyones gone before me and done this and has any thoughts and ideas to share.
IF anyone is familiar with 7customizer, I was never clear now in it's v1.13 stage that it had any ability to remove crap like vlite to make a slimmed version of win7 suitable for the HTC SHIFT with as small HDD footprint and few running services as possible.
7customizer is new and seems limited but built for win7.
vlite is said to work well with win7 but is built for vista.
I have tried 7customizer and all i was able to do was make the installation of win7 unattended which is a real whop-di-do...
vlite for win7 i tried but and got the image from 2.3gb down to 1.2gb which is real nice but upon selecting regional settings in the first stage it then asked me for some drivers and showed a blank dialog box, i never got past this stage to chose which partition to install on and got stuck.
has someone perhaps done this successful with a saved vlite preset on what was saved and what got chucked?
is all this maybe to much trouble to go through for ultimately little gain?
Had a bit of difficulty sleeping last night so i got started on this project and spent some time thinking about it and i decided to ask you guys for help.
Tiny 7 is worth a look with an installation size of 2.6gb (on the hdd) but i couldnt get the touchscreen to work on it
tiny 7 is a program or a home made ISO of win7?
But the lack of touchscreen is a dealbreaker, you sure theres no hope?
Unless they decide to add it again, I tried the add/remove windows features with no luck.
I know there is a way to slim your Windows 7 but I have not tried. Please cked the following:
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/windows-7/8441-how-slim-down-windows-7-a.html
Some progress ive tried vlite to copy tiny7 with no luck however ive found out that the driver is installing (the touchscreen shows up in HID's)
The problem is the lack of the TabletInputService which should be eaiser to port than the entire tablet pc components. The service points to
C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalSystemNetworkRestricted
If we could find a way to add this service to tiny7 we will have an iso that only takes up 2.4GB of hdd and flys on the HTC Shift.
premier69 said:
tiny 7 is a program or a home made ISO of win7?
But the lack of touchscreen is a dealbreaker, you sure theres no hope?
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Its a striped down version of 7, look it up on google
Okayyyy, I have used Linux Mint for a while now on my personal laptop, but, i went ahead and set up my desktop (which my grandparents also use) to dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu on two seperate HDDs, but since my grandparents use it, I need the OS choice screen to have Windows 7 at the top so in a certain amount of seconds it automatically boots that so my grandparents don't get their panties in a bunce when it automatically boots Ubuntu, lmao, how exactly would i go about doing this? thank you
*and please help soon.. =/ i don't wanna sound pushy but i have to get it fixed before i go to bed...
Try to edit boot.ini
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Try to edit boot.ini
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not sure what you mean... but i managed to edit the grub to at least boot Windows 7 after the 7 seconds.. but could anyone give me a better explanation as to changing the order of the selections? like to where it would have Windows 7 first, the Linux, etc..? and maybe even removing a few of the items?
and also, on the connection icon, there is a black bar? and input? (i included the screenie)
to me win 7 is the 1st choice when i boot up. if i press down it selects ubuntu. i'm not sure if it's the same with you.
Found it in Google in like 2 seconds...
I can't imagine why you'd ever want to do such a thing, but if you must, edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst:
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sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
and change the order of the entries at the bottom of the file. The topmost entry is the default boot.
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Found it in Google in like 2 seconds...
I can't imagine why you'd ever want to do such a thing, but if you must, edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst:
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sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
and change the order of the entries at the bottom of the file. The topmost entry is the default boot.
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thank you, will try it when i get home^^ but i have to make it like that b/c my grandparent use this pc, and they would flip if it kept going into Ubuntu
factualpuddle said:
thank you, will try it when i get home^^ but i have to make it like that b/c my grandparent use this pc, and they would flip if it kept going into Ubuntu
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it already auto-boots into Windows 7 doesnt it? just changing the order of the list wont change that fact
Pressing the Esc-key at the BIOS Logo-screen on my Eee PC netbook. will halt the boot from the primary boot disk and opening a screen for selecting a another boot drive (be it a CD-rom, HDD, USB-stick or a memory card).
My video player, a Nettop from ASUS with a Atom/ION motherboard pressing the F8-key (also when the boot screen is shown) will give you the same choices.
There might also be some helpful BIOS settings, in the BIOS Boot section.
Check your computer's/Motherboard's manual (There should be at least a downloadable PDF)
i know it's not in the BIOS, lol, it's just a little nit pick for me, i know it is possible to edit it in the grub, but i do not know how =[ lol
**Master Husam enters **
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Okayyyy, I have used Linux Mint for a while now on my personal laptop, but, i went ahead and set up my desktop (which my grandparents also use) to dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu on two seperate HDDs, but since my grandparents use it, I need the OS choice screen to have Windows 7 at the top so in a certain amount of seconds it automatically boots that so my grandparents don't get their panties in a bunce when it automatically boots Ubuntu, lmao, how exactly would i go about doing this? thank you
*and please help soon.. =/ i don't wanna sound pushy but i have to get it fixed before i go to bed...
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there is a program for windows 7/vista to edit your bootloader forgot the name but I used it a lot a few years back.
However, if you are using a cracked windows, this will affect your crack and make windows "not genuine".
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if you use windows xp or earlier this will work fine, windows 7/ vista uses grub as a boot loader (no more boot.ini hacks )
Blåburk said:
Pressing the Esc-key at the BIOS Logo-screen on my Eee PC netbook. will halt the boot from the primary boot disk and opening a screen for selecting a another boot drive (be it a CD-rom, HDD, USB-stick or a memory card).
My video player, a Nettop from ASUS with a Atom/ION motherboard pressing the F8-key (also when the boot screen is shown) will give you the same choices.
There might also be some helpful BIOS settings, in the BIOS Boot section.
Check your computer's/Motherboard's manual (There should be at least a downloadable PDF)
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if you read carfully, this will make the pc boot into ubuntu and the windows boot menu (which is usless).
I used this method when I was sick of the bootloader editor f***ing my crack *whistle*, but if you want to boot from the boot menu you need to remove ubuntu from the boot loader, disconnect the windows harddisk and install ubuntu on the other hard disk.
Did I write that??
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not sure what you mean... but i managed to edit the grub to at least boot Windows 7 after the 7 seconds.. but could anyone give me a better explanation as to changing the order of the selections? like to where it would have Windows 7 first, the Linux, etc..? and maybe even removing a few of the items?
and also, on the connection icon, there is a black bar? and input? (i included the screenie)
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the black bar is not normal, but what do you mean by input?
Hey guys. I'm pretty good with computers, and I'm stumped, I was hoping some of you XDA geniuses could help me out.
I recently tried to download the Duke Nukem Forever demo, which turned out to be virus-ridden. I was so excited to play that I didn't run a virus scan on it (I know, noob mistake) before trying to install. Within 10 seconds, AVG was like "o****", and I was greeted with the splash screen of my motherboard.
Windows Startup Repair didn't help me (go figure), and I would be that guy that doesn't make recovery images for his PC.
My question to all of you is, is there a way to make an actual legit repair dvd for Windows? I'm not talking about Microsoft's Windows Repair disk (which just launches the same things that Windows does when **** hits the fan). I'm looking for a way to take my Windows installation disk, and overwrite Windows with a fresh install like one would if upgrading from Vista to 7 by using the DVD (except from the Windows boot menu/DVD, since I am unable to enter Windows at all.
I just want to be able to get into my drive and backup my bookmarks and save games (all my other stuff is on a separate partition).
My only other option is to hook up a spare HDD and use my drive as a slave, virus scan it, and move my files from there, but I'd like to avoid ripping my PC apart for the moment.
Please, no "you should have installed Mac/Linux/whatever comments". Thank you for your help.
Sent from my Synergized Evo.
If you have a CD that you use to install Windows 7 you can boot from CD using the boot menu and do a completely new installation from there. I may be reading what you are asking incorrectly but that's what I did when I accidently screwed up my computer and couldn't boot any OS.
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
Yeah, that's not what I'm asking haha. I'm looking for a way to overwrite my current copy of Windows (to fix the corrupted files and save the files on my C: drive so I can extract my important files) without reformatting and installing a completely fresh copy of Windows. And I need to be able to do this without having to go into Windows (because I can't lol).
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If you make a new installation there will be a folder called windows old, or something like that. All your files will be in there.
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
Oh, really? Are you certain? And can anyone else verify this (Not saying you're unreliable man, just wanna be certain lol)?
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You can do a 'Repair' install from the Recovery menu. Just boot from your Win 7 disk to select it. If you have System restore turned on you might want to try that first, from the same menu.
I don't see repair, only startup repair.
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Sypris said:
I don't see repair, only startup repair.
Sent from my Synergized Evo.
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Repair may not be the best option anyway as it'll only fix system files, perhaps leaving the malware intact. System Restore is the better option. Failing that, grab yourself a copy of malwarebytes from another PC, put it on a memory stick and run it from safe mode on the infected PC.
Microsoft have also released a malware scanner that can be run off a memory stick. You'd need another PC and a spare memory stick to use it. It's basically a copy of security essentials but the process makes the memory stick bootable so it can be run on an infected machine outside of the Windows environment.
Hang on, i'll find a link...
https://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper
There you go.
For future reference you can create a repair disc for Win 7 by simply typing 'system repair disc' in the start menu.
Try Hirens boot CD. Live CD with mini XP and antivirus apps and many things more. Its really handy live CD for repair.
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You can nearly extract everything out of an old windows installation. Bookmarks are in json files if i remember correctly, and you can also open the old registry file (google a bit).
I think its not worth go through all the trouble to make your system start again, i would rather try to just install new and get everything i need from the old files.
So basically most of you agree I should install windows without reformatting do I can get my files from the C: drive lol
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try using hirens boot disc
it has an live windows xp so you can check for viruses from there, also you can run several other tools.
Will do. Right now I'm trying the Microsoft System Sweeper.
Sent from my Synergized Evo.
Another one for Hiren's Boot CD. YOu get the Mini XP, which just boots up into a watered down version of XP, but when you go into My Computer, all your files will be there. Also I know it has some tools running from MiniXP, but you can a lot of stuff when booting into the liveCD.
Alright lol. Sounds good. Still running Microsoft System Sweeper, but when that's done I'll try it.
Sent from my Synergized Evo.
This thread is to record comments/questions on a guide I have posted up on my site regarding the steps to get a fully working Windows 8 Developer Preview install onto the HTC Shift.
http://blogs.distant-earth.com/wp/?p=313
The process to get Windows 8 working (with graphics correctly setup etc.) is a little bit of a pain but nothing all that difficult. Especially if you follow the steps (usual rules, I made mistakes to save others the hassle )
The resulting install of Windows 8 running at 1024*600 is VERY usable , much to my surprise. Metro is actually quite nice on the tablet form factor.
The touchscreen is a little unresponsive round the edges but I suspect that is my device as it has never been very good.
good work man thanks so much i will try and post my trial
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good work man thanks so much i will try and post my trial
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Thank you. I can't install any driver even with my ethernet connection :-(
bouaroudj said:
Thank you. I can't install any driver even with my ethernet connection :-(
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SmartScreen by any chance?
If your getting the green messages the chances are you Ethernet connection is not working (is it USB, does Windows 8 ship with the driver for whatever chip it uses?).
Below is a copy/paste from a comment I made on the guide concerning SmartScreen issues.
djwillis said:
Hi,
The reason you get the green SmartScreen error messages is the lack of an Internet connection. Windows 8 includes a feature that used to only be part of IE that calls off to an MS web service to verify digital signatures are valid on newer type signed executables.
As both the Intel graphics driver and Windows Mobile Device Center are signed you can’t install without an internet connection or crippling SmartScreen.
Have another read as the order in which I installed the drivers was very deliberate and also intentionally ordered the way it was to work around the SmartScreen issues.
The guide does not even try to install the signed executables until you have got the Wireless LAN up and running so the signatures can be verified, I even mention SmartScreen as one of the reasons for the order of drivers in the guide .
Regards,
John
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I don't suppose you have all the needed drivers and could share them somewhere? i cant get any of the links to work so cant get it ready for the upgrade
Also can the test version be installed fresh? i am trying to get windows 7 working for an upgrade but if it can be done fresh i will do that xD
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I don't suppose you have all the needed drivers and could share them somewhere? i cant get any of the links to work so cant get it ready for the upgrade
Also can the test version be installed fresh? i am trying to get windows 7 working for an upgrade but if it can be done fresh i will do that xD
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Hi,
All the needed drivers are linked off the guide but as the HTC site seems to be up and down today I have now added mirrors to all the files (uploaded them to my server).
Checked and all the mirror links seem to be working fine .
The best way to try Windows 8 on the Shift is actually a fresh install. I would not suggest an upgrade at all .
fantastic i will give it a shot now
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right i have another problem lol i have everything set up right with all the drivers standing by but when i choose to install i get an error about CD/DVD drives followed by a lack of HDD error any ideas?
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[/COLOR]right i have another problem lol i have everything set up right with all the drivers standing by but when i choose to install i get an error about CD/DVD drives followed by a lack of HDD error any ideas?
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Are you going for a totally clean install as per the guide?
Is your USB stick all setup and bootable?
Assuming you are getting into the Windows setup booting off of the USB stick is it the part where you select the install disk that seems to show no HDD? If it it what was installed on your Shift before?
This sounds like an issue I had when I have Meego running off the HDD before I installed Windows 8 (BtrFS and a different partition layout seem to cause it).
Need Help,
I used the MS software to create the USB boot disk for window 8. try to install on the Shift. got to the part where it said loading files...then it show some blue squares on the upper left screen...it goes for 1/3 of the way and hang up....I let it run for 2 hours and had to do pull the battery.
try to re-install again..same result...
Do I need to format and partition the disk?
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Need Help,
I used the MS software to create the USB boot disk for window 8. try to install on the Shift. got to the part where it said loading files...then it show some blue squares on the upper left screen...it goes for 1/3 of the way and hang up....I let it run for 2 hours and had to do pull the battery.
try to re-install again..same result...
Do I need to format and partition the disk?
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That sounds like a bad stick to be honest . The blue squares are replaced with the install menu after just a few minutes. This is all well before anything is messing with the Shift's HDD or hardware .
Try reformatting it and having another go. It can't hurt.
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Are you going for a totally clean install as per the guide?
Is your USB stick all setup and bootable?
Assuming you are getting into the Windows setup booting off of the USB stick is it the part where you select the install disk that seems to show no HDD? If it it what was installed on your Shift before?
This sounds like an issue I had when I have Meego running off the HDD before I installed Windows 8 (BtrFS and a different partition layout seem to cause it).
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Right i managed to find the problem, only used your quide for the drivers as i installed windows 7 in a similar way, i used CMD and DISKPART to get a pen drive ready and then used XCOPY to move the installation media onto the drive but for some reason even though it said it was finished it was missing out a couple of files inside the sources folder, once i used XCOPY again over the existing media it managed to find the missing files and copy them. So you where right it was a problem with drivers missing from the install media and once they where found it was all clean sailing thanks to your fantastic guide
Thanks again xD
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SmartScreen by any chance?
If your getting the green messages the chances are you Ethernet connection is not working (is it USB, does Windows 8 ship with the driver for whatever chip it uses?).
Below is a copy/paste from a comment I made on the guide concerning SmartScreen issues.
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Ok thanks it worked.
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Lord_alias said:
I don't suppose you have all the needed drivers and could share them somewhere? i cant get any of the links to work so cant get it ready for the upgrade
Also can the test version be installed fresh? i am trying to get windows 7 working for an upgrade but if it can be done fresh i will do that xD
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here is a working link :
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-shift/downloads/
bouaroudj said:
here is a working link :
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-shift/downloads/
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Thanks, added that link to the guide, HTC's site seemed to be up and down all weekend but the link you posted seems to work now so lets go with it .
John
djwillis said:
Thanks, added that link to the guide, HTC's site seemed to be up and down all weekend but the link you posted seems to work now so lets go with it .
John
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I posted a small video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATsDKMQu9I4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sorry it's in french
Has anyone tried this yet on a AT&T tilt? My old tilt is lonely!
mdz24cavalier said:
Has anyone tried this yet on a AT&T tilt? My old tilt is lonely!
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Hmmm, the Tilt is an ARM based HTC Kaiser, the Shift is a much bigger x86 based UMPC (with a cut down HTC Kaiser effectively shoved in to look after the ARM Windows Mobile side of the device ).
As this is running normal x86 Windows 8 I would not expect to see your old Tilt getting much love from the guide .
sir is it possible to install win(8) on HTC-HD2... r HD7.
If you want to force the 1024 x 768 resolution to launch Metro apps !
blog.daily-dev .com /?p=271&lang=en
The english is not perfect but you can remove the "&lang=en" to see it in french.
P.S : Sorry for the link format but i'm new on this forum so can't post URL
I cannot install Win 8 on my HTC Shift.
I follow the guide but using with 4GB Flash Drive.
any thing help or comments please!
thanks
Well... I have installed Win8 on the Shift without any trouble.
Overall I find it too slow for being usable. Neither Vista, 7 or 8 seem to be enough responsive.
I am very disappointed by the Metro UI, it is really slow and even in 1152*864 it does not work quite well.
What do you think about Metro UI responsiveness?
I have a lot of trouble getting accurate touch... it shows a circle but it seems that only a FEW (3-4 ?) pixels trigger... so you still have to find the precise point that will get the touch event.. OUCH !
It is especially painful to hit a corner (windows button, the task bar, and the application bar). I have to do almost everything with the mouse.... *SICK*
Intel driver supports several resolution... AMAZING ! but we need two things:
- change the resolution switch from 800*480 - 1024*600 to 800*480 - 1024*600 - 1024*768 - 1152*864 ... or at least get the ability to change the 1024*600.
- change the rotation : as a tablet... the screen rotation is kinda important...but well it is just a detail ;-)
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picheth said:
I cannot install Win 8 on my HTC Shift.
I follow the guide but using with 4GB Flash Drive.
any thing help or comments please!
thanks
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what is the problem?
4GB Flash Drive seem a little bit too small. I have used a HDD of 20GB with the whole partition set as active.
It is for me the fastest and easiest solution to install Windows on the shift.
Have you been able to go to start the installation of Windows 8 ?
You need to press F12 during the boot to choose which drive to boot on.