3g and wifi question - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi i just got my nexus friday im excited and happy, but i have no data plan im thinking maybe get one since here in mexico its expensive (at least for me) the cheaper plan its like 45 US and only 500MB of data transfer on 3g, after this limit the navigation will be reduced to edge 128kb~
and seems all need internet on nexus even navigator, and voice search(why)
i use wifi on my home in my work i have internet but no wireless will be more the use between my home to work and weekends.
but my real question or some are should i get the 3g?
and the other its when i use wifi and go to sleep mode seems the wifi sleep too so i have no notification, and maybe there is tweaks or software that let "on" and only turn on screen but waste more battery, and im wondering in 3g in sleep mode the notifications will come auto?or need the phone in wake up mode
for example i got a twit or facebook or mail in wifi nothing happen unti i wake up my device and wifi wake up too. in 3g will auto get the notification?
thanks a lot.
like a plus and no re post again i searched with no luck but anyone have a minute counter? for example passed 4 minutes hear a beep or something,a data plan for andorid,or a program taht turn on wif based on gsm cell towers?
sorry for inconvenience and thanks to all. its a little hard pass from wm to android xD

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Data switching in G1

Hi. I've bought my first Android device, a HTC G1 Dream. I've gained root access, installed the last Cyanogen release (with Android 1.6), RA-1.2.3.
What I've noticed is a strange behavior, quite different from the one I had with my BlackBerry Bold.
When I'm home I enable wifi, to save some datas from my (limited) contract. It works and I've set not to disable wifi when in standby. It works. But as soon as I go out (and the wifi coverage finishes), it doesn't re-enable UMTS data until I awake it from the standby manually.
It's quite annoying...is there a way to change this kind of behavior?
Thank you very much!
Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
sturmeh said:
Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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When I connect via Wifi, it disconnects from edge, gprs or umts. And doesn't reconnect when the wifi coverage ends (unless I "re-awake" the phone,pushing the menu button)
from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
stefan.buddle said:
from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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Yes, I cannot see the icon as soon as I wake up it. Then, in some seconds, it reconnects. More, I can see it's not just a "icon" issue because my K9-mail stops collecting my mailboxes when that situation happen.

3g vs 2G battery life - way too varied

I have a ATT type Nexus One (not Tmobile), unrooted, with latest froyo.
The life of the battery in 3G mode vs. 2 G mode is astonishing...pretty ridiculous.
I'm searching but can someone tell me if there's been any fixes or advancements in regard to this problem?
When at home I use wifi as much as possible. I leave it on 2G but really, I can't take the slow speeds of 2G, but 3G setting is suuuuuuch a drain on the battery that it seems unreal.
i've had nokia's and more in 3G, my wifes iphone is 3G... and all of them had nearly more than double the battery life.
I hate the voice quality of 2G, I'd love to be able to just leave at 3G, but it's merely hours before it's nearly drained set on 3G. it's got to be a problem (and one that hopefully can be fixed).
Why would 3G setting be sucking THAT much power (decent-strong signals too here)?
Love my nexus1 and I'll live I guess but this problem...it's a bit much.
Any news on this issue, or other things I can consider or change/try to help this? (3G)
thanks
Set your WiFi sleep policy to NEVER. Even thought you're using WiFi at home, whe nthe screen goes off the WiFi shut off and 3G kick in.
Menu>Settings>WiFi settings>Menu>Advance>WiFi sleep policy>Never.
baseballfanz said:
Set your WiFi sleep policy to NEVER. Even thought you're using WiFi at home, whe nthe screen goes off the WiFi shut off and 3G kick in.
Menu>Settings>WiFi settings>Menu>Advance>WiFi sleep policy>Never.
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Oh very sorry, I should have said I did set this to never and saved changes.
In fact, I think I've set it 1000x now btw, over some time it STILL always disconnects from wifi (might be router disconnecting though, perhaps I should set an IP manually to solve this??).
GPS and BT are always turned off until needed as well (used very rarely anyways btw).
But when I'm away from home for example, I turn wifi off and test the difference2G vs. 3G and the difference is waaaaay too much, 3G just CHEWS at the battery no matter strong signal or medium.
I find it hard to believe 3G really has to eat up that much battery when set compared to 2G on a Nexus. A little bit to nominal ...sure, but not like this (say like 4-6 hours if i left it 3G for a day with little usage).
What's really happening here? Nothing from google/HTC on this matter?
Heh, i get just the opposite... out in the farmland of west toledo, im getting 2G but typically GPRS and that rapes my battery where as 3G i could go on standby for days if i didnt touch it...
What radio are you running? if your phone is constantly looking for a signal then that may be your problem...
I have the same issue on 3g. Home on WiFi is ok but when I go out during the day on 3g it just kills my battery.
The reason is because android OS keeps the data session open at all times where other OS's close it down when not in use. It's just the nature of how they designed android.
As a test, one day turn off your data connection but stay on 3g and see how good your battery life is. This is how some other OS's work normally.
It's a trade off we have to make for being always connected on android.
For example voice actions need to reach out to Google's servers to work. So in the interest of speed of having to open the data session each time, the OS just keeps data open on hand at all times. But that kills battery quicker.
That's what I've found anyway.
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Heh, i get just the opposite... out in the farmland of west toledo, im getting 2G but typically GPRS and that rapes my battery where as 3G i could go on standby for days if i didnt touch it...
What radio are you running? if your phone is constantly looking for a signal then that may be your problem...
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That's because the phone is always on the lookout for a 3G signal, if you know you aren't going to get one, just set it to 2G only and your battery life will massively improve.

[Q] HD7 3G vs Wifi data usage

I have an HD7 and want to minimize my account data usage so I'm connected to Wifi when I'm at home. It was my understanding that when I'm connected to Wifi, all data goes through that, rather than my 3G service. However, when I check my data usage, I show some data being used during times that I know I was at home. Any ideas?
I can see some of the data and know that it is the Yahoo mail being pushed to the phone since that is 2 hours apart. And I know that the phone disconnects from Wifi when the screen turns off, so I understand the data being used there. But there is some data being used (>1mb) when I know I'm at home and awake and obviously doing something on the phone.
This is a very good question and one that I would like to see answered as well!
jkxklutz said:
This is a very good question and one that I would like to see answered as well!
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I used simple mobile in the US which is tmobile mvno, you dont even need to unlock your phone. It was $60 a month unlimited everything no contract so I never worried about that. If your bill is killing you use that.

[Q] Tasker cannot turn off phone radio

I have low cellular signal in my house so i want to disable the phone's radio when on house wifi, but that option is "unavailable" in tasker.
Is there a work around to this? i know you can turn on airplane mode then turn back on wifi, but i want to know if there is a solution to just disable the radio.
Would this help? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217038
Thanks.
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I thought there was a plugin released recently that allowed something like this, sorry I can't find it though.
I have bad signal at home too so I just change over to 2g and battery does pretty well.
Why would you want to turn the radio off though? You won't receive calls/sms/anything.
Going to 2G and turning data off should be better surely?
signal is so weak that you can assume no signal at all in the house, so i'm not sure if just changing to 2g data is good enough since the phone will still continue to search for cellular signal which drains the battery.
i will try that at least for now and see if it helps, but ultimately, i do want to turn off the radio and leave on wifi.
i am able to receive calls via wifi through use of voip, receive sms via google voice.

[Q] Slow to latch to wifi? Connect to 3g briefly before wifi.

I have a pretty stock HTC One, and I'm on a particularly sub par data plan, where each 'data session' is rounded up.
I have wifi both at home and at work, good wifi signal and am v close to router etc. I find that if I put the phone into standby and then use it again 5-10 minutes later, it is still connected to wifi, all good. If I leave it for 20-30 minutes, when I wake it, it latches onto the 3g network for a few seconds and then realises there is wifi and connects to that.
I have things like Google+, FB messenger and push mail which I presumed required a constant connection.
Any thoughts on why the wifi appears to be being turned off as it entertains deep sleep?
I can just switch data off when at home or work but I don't want to have to rely on that sort of thing, and the apps that do that for you based on GPS etc aren't that appealing either.
Look in adavanced settings under wifi. Should be able to set it to keep wifi on during sleep
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Thanks for the reply. Yup I have that set to always. Seems to happen both on my home and work wifi, despite great signal strength. Sometimes it seems it does happen even if the phone is unused for 5-10 minutes.
I assume this is actually pretty common and most if not all phones do this, you probably wouldn't notice unless you were tracking each connected data session.
I was thinking the phone must do something like, wake, spend x time looking for wifi while simultaneously connecting to 3g, then when wifi is found it is connected to and the 3g connection is dropped. I guess I'd be looking to delay/postpone that connecting to the 3g network for 5 seconds or so to give the wifi time to establish.
Probably nothing I can do really.
I haven't noticed any problem staying connecetd to wifi while sleeping and Ive looked at the notification bar many time before ever unlocking the phone, just to make sure wifi stayed connected as its suppose to and it does. Only see 3g when Ive set it keep wifi on during sleep to only when plugged in and I dont have it plugged in. I also have best wifi performance checked. Dont think that makes much difference though. Im also stock at the moment
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