apps2sd newbie help? - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

just got my new class 6 card and want to set up apps2sd. im running fresh rom 2.1.2. as i understand apps2sd in built in to it. I will be doing a full wipe and reinstall of the rom. and wanted to set up apps2sd along with it since im currently starting to run low on memory. I was also wondering what the different options in RA are for and the difference between them "ext2 to ext3 and ext3 to ext4?" also which one do i use and do i need to use some space for a swap file?
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Newbie Needs help on rom flashing

guys i need a bit of help..
I had rooted my HTC Dream, plus latest radio and SPL.
Then I flashed to JF's 1.51 rom..i have yet to upgrade to the latest hayo SPL.
I wanna try out Dude's cupcake or ramjet's rom..
I need to know if I have to partition my SD card to ext3 first before flashing? Can it be done without converting it to ext 3? or leave it as fat32?
However i don't understand what is ext2 /ext3 to SD.
What is it? the defaults = ext2?
how do i partition it to ext3?
So after flashing all apps would be install automatically to the sd card?
mgear356 said:
guys i need a bit of help..
I had rooted my HTC Dream, plus latest radio and SPL.
Then I flashed to JF's 1.51 rom..i have yet to upgrade to the latest hayo SPL.
I wanna try out Dude's cupcake or ramjet's rom..
I need to know if I have to partition my SD card to ext3 first before flashing? Can it be done without converting it to ext 3? or leave it as fat32?
However i don't understand what is ext2 /ext3 to SD.
What is it? the defaults = ext2?
how do i partition it to ext3?
So after flashing all apps would be install automatically to the sd card?
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The only time you will need a ext2 or ext3 partition is if you are going to do apps2sd. If you do you need to partitions either ext2 or ext3 and fat32. Use ubuntu to create the partitions. There are a ton of threads covering all this.
Thank you sir..
However is there any way other than a utbunu os? Can it be done with winxp?
Can I install ramjets rom without app2sd?
I am confused with abn app with terminal wats that?
So I presume ext2/3 is a linux partition and I did to have that in order for apps2sd to work?
mgear356 said:
Thank you sir..
However is there any way other than a utbunu os? Can it be done with winxp?
Can I install ramjets rom without app2sd?
I am confused with abn app with terminal wats that?
So I presume ext2/3 is a linux partition and I did to have that in order for apps2sd to work?
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There is other ways. But you can run ubuntu as a live cd without having to install anything. But if you don't want to use that then there is paragon which you can use on winxp. Also there are scripts to run which will create a partition for you but me personally i would want to format it myself. You don't need apps2sd for ramjets rom, but if you do have your card partitioned (needs ext3) it should do everything for you. Don't really understand when you said your confused with abn app with terminal. If your talking about terminal emulator, that is a place where you can run commands like adb.

*Solved* JAC's A2SD or JAC's SLOW SD?

I have a rooted G1
& i have jf's 1.5 build with CM's recovery
But the other day out of being scared that i bricked my g1
i flashed to jf but after i thought i "bricked"
i realized that was normal when installing Hero SPL/Radio
So im think of finally flahing to Hero
but theres two options for me
1. flash he spl/radio again then install JAC's Slow SD hero ROm
2. wait till i get paid next week and buy a new 8gb or 16gb
(does the g1 support 16???) then install Jac's Hero Rom but with Apps2SD
oh and if any body out there with JAC's Slow SD rom does it really differ from the A2sd rom(except 4 the obvious)
An does it give you a decent start off of memory like 70mb internal or something
And since i already installed the hero spl/radio do i need to reflash them in order to install the rom
or can i just go ahead and flash the Slow SD rom
And last does Swapper make a difference on the Slow SD Rom
Thanks in advanced
Because i wont beable to read the replies tonight(maybe)
watchyaself said:
I have a rooted G1
& i have jf's 1.5 build with CM's recovery
But the other day out of being scared that i bricked my g1
i flashed to jf but after i thought i "bricked"
i realized that was normal when installing Hero SPL/Radio
So im think of finally flahing to Hero
but theres two options for me
1. flash he spl/radio again then install JAC's Slow SD hero ROm
2. wait till i get paid next week and buy a new 8gb or 16gb
(does the g1 support 16???) then install Jac's Hero Rom but with Apps2SD
oh and if any body out there with JAC's Slow SD rom does it really differ from the A2sd rom(except 4 the obvious)
An does it give you a decent start off of memory like 70mb internal or something
And since i already installed the hero spl/radio do i need to reflash them in order to install the rom
or can i just go ahead and flash the Slow SD rom
And last does Swapper make a difference on the Slow SD Rom
Thanks in advanced
Because i wont beable to read the replies tonight(maybe)
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unless you have flashed another spl to your phone you still have the new spl. yes the g1 supports 16gb sdcards. i haven't tried the slow version of hero because i have a class 6 8gb sdcard but you should be able to flash the slow rom just fine. i think it leaves around 30mb of free space but i am not sure and swapper should make it run faster on the slow version set it to 32/30 (swap/swappiness) should give best results. you should invest in a class 6 sdcard though. also if using the swapper app make sure you put the swapfile in /system/sd so it will not corrupt your sdcard when you mount it. if there is anything else i have not covered just ask and i will answer to the best of my ability.
So pretty much since I already flashed the spl/radio from I think it was
Saphire ports or something like I'm able to flash to pretty much any ROM including JAC's Slow SD
With no problems??
And if I flash to JAC's Slow SD ROM today, can I reflash to the A2SD ROM next week when I get a new card
Oh yeah and is there a way to check my spl just to make sure I got the right one?
ohhh and I already know how to check my radio
Go into bootloader (camera+power) SPL:1.33.2005
david1171 said:
unless you have flashed another spl to your phone you still have the new spl. yes the g1 supports 16gb sdcards. i haven't tried the slow version of hero because i have a class 6 8gb sdcard but you should be able to flash the slow rom just fine. i think it leaves around 30mb of free space but i am not sure and swapper should make it run faster on the slow version set it to 32/30 (swap/swappiness) should give best results. you should invest in a class 6 sdcard though. also if using the swapper app make sure you put the swapfile in /system/sd so it will not corrupt your sdcard when you mount it. if there is anything else i have not covered just ask and i will answer to the best of my ability.
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Well if he goes to JACHero 2.36 he shouldn't use swapper. Just create the linux-swap partition on your sd card and everything is auto from there. You wouldn't want to have the partition and use swapper because that will mess things up. Plus having linux-swap partition compared to swapper makes a huge difference.
supremeteam256 said:
Well if he goes to JACHero 2.36 he shouldn't use swapper. Just create the linux-swap partition on your sd card and everything is auto from there. You wouldn't want to have the partition and use swapper because that will mess things up. Plus having linux-swap partition compared to swapper makes a huge difference.
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Erm...you mean JACHero 2.63
alritewhadeva said:
Erm...you mean JACHero 2.63
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Yep my bad. Its to early here at work. lol
So if I create a linux swap patition using paragon partiton ill select "linux swap'
And then flash the rom ??and then after I boot up I won't need to do anything??
Oh and since I will most likely flash to JAC's a2sd rom because I'm going to buy a sdhc card next week
watchyaself said:
So if I create a linux swap patition using paragon partiton ill select "linux swap'
And then flash the rom ??and then after I boot up I won't need to do anything??
Oh and since I will most likely flash to JAC's a2sd rom because I'm going to buy a sdhc card next week
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JACHero 2.63 will automatically see the linux-swap
Ok well I think I'm going to flash to slow sd for now then next week to a2sd
Oh and just to make sure my radio is 2.22.1.16 or something like that
And my spl is 1.33.2005 so am I all good to flash to jachero
and I have linux swap so I can flash right???
Oh and how would it most likely take to boot for the first time??
Thank you in advance
watchyaself said:
Ok well I think I'm going to flash to slow sd for now then next week to a2sd
Oh and just to make sure my radio is 2.22.1.16 or something like that
And my spl is 1.33.2005 so am I all good to flash to jachero
and I have linux swap so I can flash right???
Oh and how would it most likely take to boot for the first time??
Thank you in advance
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Yep as long as you got the spl and radio you good. You really don't have to have the linux-swap partition but if you do it will pick it up automatically. And it shouldn't take a long time to boot up the first time.
Thanks man I really appreaciate the help
And from everyone els to
Oh and one last ?
Since I'm going to flash to the slow sd rom
When I reflash next week to a2sd jac with my new 4 gig or 8 I'm not sure do I have to prep the card
With the recovery img
Fat32
Ext3 and the linix swap
And it would turn on fine??
Oh and is ext3 a replacement for ext2
So that meaning all my apps on ext3
Music photos etc.. on fat32
And linux swap is what??
I think I'm confused here
I just want to make sure that next week I don't muck up my g1
watchyaself said:
Thanks man I really appreaciate the help
And from everyone els to
Oh and one last ?
Since I'm going to flash to the slow sd rom
When I reflash next week to a2sd jac with my new 4 gig or 8 I'm not sure do I have to prep the card
With the recovery img
Fat32
Ext3 and the linix swap
And it would turn on fine??
Oh and is ext3 a replacement for ext2
So that meaning all my apps on ext3
Music photos etc.. on fat32
And linux swap is what??
I think I'm confused here
I just want to make sure that next week I don't muck up my g1
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You won't have to do anything with the recovery img because that is already on your phone. The ext3 is just like the ext2 but suppose to be safer for the card so yes all your apps will be on there and photos, music, videos and everything else on your fat32. The linux-swap is basically like giving your phone more ram. If you need help formating your card I have a tutorial in my sig on how to set everything up.
supremeteam256 said:
You won't have to do anything with the recovery img because that is already on your phone. The ext3 is just like the ext2 but suppose to be safer for the card so yes all your apps will be on there and photos, music, videos and everything else on your fat32. The linux-swap is basically like giving your phone more ram. If you need help formating your card I have a tutorial in my sig on how to set everything up.
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His tutorial is very good and I noticed a HUGE difference moving from swapper app to linux-swap as its own partition.
Oh how big do i make Linix Swap
Anybody??
32MB is fine for swap.
help with my sdcard
Hey guys I was wondering if any of you can help me out get more space on my phone i formarted my sdcard to ex2 and linux_swap and i still get 70mb plz help I nee dthe space I'm running the latest jachero
it saves to the sd automatically
i think
it doesnt show as merged internal/sd
it just saves to sd
help
is not showing anything it keep making my internal memory smaller
well idk what to say maybe
reflash hero then see if that works
oh and are you sure you didnt download his Slow SD ROM
if you dont know what that is its basically JAChero but with apps to internal memory maybe you did that
because thats what is sounds like

The dudes cupcake 1.3RC2

does this ROM do Apps2sd automatically as long as you have an ext3 partition?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507151
His changelog says this:
"Modified a2sd script to mount auto but not automatically convert to ext3"
Just out of curiosity, why are you going to that build?
didnt see that part.
it seems to run faster on my 8gb class 6 than cyanogen 4.0.4 did.
should it or should cyanogen be faster? i liked cyanogen but it just seemed to lag more...my friends G1 does the same thing.
also, everytime ive flashed cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom, and i install the wifi tether for root users app, it works, but it will not show up as a secured network, even though on my G1 in the app settings i have it set to be encrypted.
on cupcake 1.3RC2 it shows as a secured network as its supposed to.
He should be releasing a new update to 4.1.99 tonight which apparently will speed it up.
1.3rc2 is WAY outdated. dude's leaked release was about 3x as fast and stable. however, i'd probably consider going with one of cyanogen's roms right now, seeing as Dude has left the game for the time being, so any of his roms are going to be unsupported.
so i should flash cyanogens latest rom (is 4.0.4 still the latest stable) or should i go with 4.1.99 tonite after the update is released as the other guy said?
well, if you're running ok for now, i'd wait around for cyanogen's update tonight.
ill do that.
itll be updated in his thread tonite?
also...i have an 8gb class 6 sd card.
should i run swap? if so, 64mb, 96?
and ext3 vs ext4...i see a few are running 4 but most are running ext3. what are the pros/cons? (what would be the best SD card partition setup for 4.1.99?)
cyanogen has said that he *might* push the update out tonight, but ultimately, hes the only one who knows. as for the swap, running it is completely up to you. I have two g1s that are running 4.1.99 and the swap makes little differenct as far as i can tell. also, ext3 is fine, ext4 (because of its relative instability) is more likely to eat your card faster.
ive heard swap will eat the card faster as well.
i think ill just do fat32 and ext3.
can you explain to me what compcache is/does? i have the files and had it enabled on 4.0.4, but thats been wiped a few days ago so id have to reset it up if i want to use comcache with 4.1.99
ufvj217 said:
ive heard swap will eat the card faster as well.
i think ill just do fat32 and ext3.
can you explain to me what compcache is/does? i have the files and had it enabled on 4.0.4, but thats been wiped a few days ago so id have to reset it up if i want to use comcache with 4.1.99
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compcache compress data that is going to be stored in ram and is cpu heavy
the result is more ram is available for use at the cost of cpu power and as a result battery life.
thats the simple way of stating it
you think i should run it?
i see in your sig you have fat32, ext3, and swap, then it says you have 32mb for comcache, is that a separate partition, or does that use space from your 96mb swap?
ufvj217 said:
you think i should run it?
i see in your sig you have fat32, ext3, and swap, then it says you have 32mb for comcache, is that a separate partition, or does that use space from your 96mb swap?
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The compcache is stored on the RAM. The swap partition is on the SDcard and is used as a backing when the RAM fills up or the information cannot be compressed. The swap is generally for when I'm on a Hero ROM, where I use the swap only (since its a little bit faster for me on Hero)
I have a detailed explanation on the performance benefits on Compcache + Swap only, but I don't remember where it is.
Cyanogen uses Compcache by default, so if you don't have a userinit.sh, it will be on. Try it out, and then try it with the script. See what works better for you

App2sd problem on Cyanogen 4.2.5

Hello,
I have searched but have not found an answer. I am running Cyanogen 4.2.5 after upgrading from JF 1.5. I have followed the directions from Cyanogens website wiki for partitioning my sd. I have a class 6 8 gig card. It shows the partition according to print but it only seems to be getting somewhat smaller in size. Meanwhile the phone memory is getting considerably smaller after installing apps. I don't have a linux swap is that necessary for app2sd to work? Is there a way to see if apps2sd is working? I don't think it is. Has anyone elde had any problems or guidance?
What type of ext are you using?
No, a2sd is not dependant on swap.
Try to reparition using the recovery image from amon_ra, link in my sig.
Decrease in phone memory could be due to cache from other apps.
To check if a2sd is working check the available size of the 2nd parition.
I am just running ext2 currently as I have never been able to get it to work. The phone memory gets low everytime i install an app.
See the 3rd suggestion, and upgrade to ext3 while your at it.
will do thanks for the quick input
Apps2SD on cyanogen 4.2.13 with G1
Hi All,
I am new to the website, I recently updated my G1 with 4.2.13 and I used the SDpart.txt from dusty51 to partition my SDcard. I started downloading apps to my phone however my internal memory is still getting low. So it seems to me that the Apps2SD is not working.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
i have the exacted same problem but during the sdparted.txt in console it is able to make the 3 partitions but the says err: /dev/blocl/mmcblk0p2 not found.
What's going on?

ext2?, ext3?, swap?

ive got an N1 running CM-RC3 and the 5.08 radio
only things configured are facebook, gmail and hotmail
ive got an 8GB class 6 card...
as always, backup the card to my computer so i dont lose anything...
i want to learn more about the ext partitions and swap partitions
correct me at any time if im off base
from what ive read i can create the swap and ext from recovery and that when i creat the ext2 i should convert it to ext3 for even quicker acess?
and that when i enable the ability for moving apps from the phone to the sdcard, the phone will magically know to put them in the ext space?
can the ext be made bigger if needed?
i know before i wiped my phone and installed CM-RC3, i was using modaco r21, and i thought i had all apps moved to the SD-card but only had 24mb free on the phone...
and the swap could be used like more cache for the phone...
how much should i add? is it even needed?
and what ever i dont use for the ext and swap to make fat-32 for my access and files...
now im reading more and it looks like the ext partitions are actually pre-FROYO, and im thinking i dont need to worry about them?
what about the swap?
Well, CM6 does not support App2Ext out-of-box. You need to use a script like Darktremor App2SD to get this working, though you might have to modify the CM6 kernel to get this working fine. AFAIK, CM6.1 will support App2Ext alongside the Froyo App2FAT.
FYI, there is no magic in App2Ext... it simply links /data/app (where apps are installed) to a folder in the ext partition on your SD card.
Do you have a lot of widget/live wallpaper apps? If not, the FroYo App2FAT should do fine for you now. CM6 Setting has a feature to allow you to move any app to 2 FroYo Apps2FAT partition.
As far as swap is concerned, I doubt it would be useful for the N1, considering the relatively decent RAM (it's good enough for everything for now). Swap was very useful for the older phones like the G1 which has very little RAM. I doubt you'd notice any difference if you added a swap partition.

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