so i just wanted to see if any of you guys experience this
i text alot and just did a back up of 22k txts =)
lol ...... i kno...... anyways
i have experienced lag with hancent when i went to reply a txt and sometimes when i blasts txts to several people the app would just crash. all this occured on 1.5 by the way
i just got around to updating to 2.1 and its very fast i wiped everything and now im wondering if the problems i experiecnced were due to so many txt messages on my hero and handcent showing them as a thread
can anybody confirm that alot of txt msgs on 2.1 will eventually cause lags?
i just want to see if i should restore all those txts to my new freshly installed rom or just delete em
Handcent does a great job at handling massive amounts of texts. However, there is a limitation, from what I understand. I know on my old Blackberry, having more than 1,000 texts sitting on my phone would bring the whole thing to a halt and it took hours to even batch delete them.
So, I'm pretty sure that you would definitely notice some slow down with 22,000 texts, but I'm not sure how much. I've never gone above 1,500 in my inbox before deleting, and I usually delete lonnnng before that (around the 500 range).
Having that many texts will definitely slow down your Hero, whether it's 1.5 or 2.1. I deleted somewhere around 3k the first time and my phone sped up majorly. I now try to keep it at no more than 500 or so.
ok cool i guess im deleting them from now on.
is there a way to cap that limit so it automatically deletes txts at 500?
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do u guys manually go and delete each thread or is there an easier method?
Handcent used to have an option to delete messages when so many had been received, but I don't see that option anymore. If you use the stock AOSP messaging app (Mms.apk), it has the option. Because Handcent pulls messages from the same place as the Mms.apk, when the Mms.apk deletes the message, it is also deleted from Handcent. I have my limit set to 200 right now.
I don't know how this works for the HTC messaging app, though. Even when I used sense-based ROMs, I never used it. If you want the AOSP Mms.apk, I can post it for you.
Also, I do occasionally just delete all of my text. Handcent has a "Delete threads" function that deletes everything.
There is actually a problem with the hero deleting large threads of msgs. if u go into a cmd promt and through sdk tools type this while phone is connected to computer.
adb remount
adb shell
# rm /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Stock seems better. Also, the app sms quick delete seems to work pretty quick.
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There is actually a problem with the hero deleting large threads of msgs. if u go into a cmd promt and through sdk tools type this while phone is connected to computer.
adb remount
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# rm /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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do you have to be rooted to do this?
my friend say's his phones laggy and has lots of text messages, without root...i was wondering if could use this on his phone
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Hello, I am a very txt heavy person and i was just wondering if anyone knows of an option or software that acts like the blackberry message service, where it shows ALL the texts between you and the person (sorta like the facebook -wall to wall- feature).
Thank you.
Pocket CM does this kinda, maybe not exactly what your looking for but worth a look
Palm SMS is also very good.
Ahhh, you mean threaded SMS conversation!
Well, by default, WM6 doesn't have threading feature on its messaging application.
But if you'd like to thread your SMS, you could use the two alternatives mentioned here. And a few others.
Palm Threading SMS is awesome. I can't give you a link to it unfortunately, but if you snoop around this forum, I'm sure you'll find your way to the file.
Another one that's free, it's developed by a member here, is the IMSMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619
Give PocketCM, Palm (I prefer this), and IMSMS a try. But I find that Palm's Threaded SMS has a very nice (maybe the best) integration to the operating system. Meaning, it's installation on top of (not overwritting the default one, just overlaying) the default messaging application is very nice.
Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
Thanks in advance!
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Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
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I'd look in Settings -> Sounds & Notifications and change it there. It's not really a program-specific setting, though it may make some changes. I've also found that it doesn't seem like changes stick around through a soft reset (sometimes). I can't explain that, and I'm no guru so it may be my fault anyway.
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Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Thanks jomo25, but the problem persists...i went to sounds & notifications and it shows that there is a sound notification and that it will vibrate with new incoming sms...but it doesnt do that...should i try a soft reset?
and did any of you guys notice that txts were getting delayed because of palm sms? as in...they take longer for you to recieve a text that someone sent?
If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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I did everything you said, but no luck...and i have been notified by my friends that they have sent me several sms's and i never got them at all, let alone have the sms delayed by over 10 minutes (average). I really like the app, but it's causing too many problems so i'm gonna uninstall it and try something else.
Thanks for your help anyway
All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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I have the HTC TYTN 2, with the OEM ROM...i have not done 1 mod to it...weird.
Yes, VERY odd. It has worked for many other users as well.
I have searched and searched and have found similar problems, but not quite my problem.
About 3 days ago, my messaging started acting up. When I would open my messaging and begin to type a text message, the dialer would come up. Then I noticed that it wasn't really a keyboard problem, because when I wouldn't type anything, the messaging program would just close within 30 seconds. This also started happening with my emails. When I open an email, I get less than 30 seconds to read it before it closes.
Another problem is that when I start typing, I see the first two words and then the rest of the text disappears/comes out invisible. What's up with that?
My final problem is that my emails do not push anymore. I have to manually send/recieve to get my emails. I have it set to every 30 minutes, and I have an unlimited data/1500 txt messaging plan.
I have no idea what the problem is. I am running the stock WM6.1 rom. I have not downloaded or installed any new programs on my tilt. Currently I have 23.71mb of free storage memory and 41.75mb of free program memory. When the problem occurs, there are no background programs running.
I disabled cleartype and auto correct. I read that the reason my messaging(tmail.exe) might be crashing is because the file where my attachments are stored (on my memory card) is corrupted. So I deleted that and my emails are working now. However the text messaging screen crashing after 30 seconds still persists.
The only change that I can honestly think of is that I updated Slick recently and I updated Google Maps to Latitude. I have not made any other changes.
Please help if you can! Thank you.
Wow, no one on here has a clue??? I'm surprised...
Ok, so i had 1300+ text messages between me and my girlfriend this week and i went to delete them because I could tell my sms was getting a little sluggish, but I could not delete them. It kept force closing on me. I tried rebooting the device and still would force close. I figured I would just "wait" this time and not close and I waited ten or so times and then rebooted again. after the reboot the messages were gone. I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem and if maybe there was a way or a program that could auto delete the messages.
ive experienced the same issue while trying to delete a large amount of sms. ive also had issues with it displaying mms. The only solution ive found is to not let my messaging to fill up.
When it trys to force close just keep hiting wait or whatever doesn't close it.....it takes a while but eventually it deletes
yeah it doesn't show the number of messages in a thread with chomp so over the last week i racked up almost 2000 and it took 10minutes or so to delete them all. i closed every other program with task manager and just kept hitting wait.
Yea I just click "Delete Threads" and forget about it. When I come back there's a fore close I click wait and all the texts are gone. "SET IT, AND FORGET IT"
Never let it get over 100 per thread
I noticed if you do that is when you have issues
right now i find it easier to wipe my phone than to try and delete threads of messages, i use more than 15,000 sms messages a month and i just wipe my phone once a month, and run a script on my computer and all my apps are back and on the SD card still, and my messages are gone. i haven't done this in two months and my messeges are getting quite slow. thanks for reminding me to wipe
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right now i find it easier to wipe my phone than to try and delete threads of messages, i use more than 15,000 sms messages a month and i just wipe my phone once a month, and run a script on my computer and all my apps are back and on the SD card still, and my messages are gone. i haven't done this in two months and my messeges are getting quite slow. thanks for reminding me to wipe
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ok i got 3 words for u. U ARE INSANE !
lol i delete my sms when it get more than 500 or close. and when i did, it tel me to force close or wait, i just force close, and come back, everything is gone
do i smell a sms deleting app necessity?
why am i insane, most of my txts are between me and my girl, i can run a script on my comp and it wipes my phone and reinstalls my apps. right before i go to bed i open the teminal on my comp and run wipe, i wrote a script to wipe, reboot, reinstall apps, it makes my life really easy, when i wake up in the morning i have a fresh phone with all the extra texts and cra gone, plus it saves me from having to delete individual threads like you guys are doing.
@@roguestatuskat if you were to make an app that deleted all my SMS messages at once i would certainly use that, i might not pay for it since my way is pretty mush painless and free, but it would save my cache from my other stuff rather than losing all that once a month
you do relize there is a delete all threads menu option right?
Yea I jus recently had this problem about a week ago I had 1200+ messages from one person and 700+ from another, I jus had to take a L and "wait" instead of hitting F/C, cuz like someone else said chomp doesn't show how many messages u have in a thread... But yea I do think there should be an easier way to delete those messages like that...
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why am i insane,
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15000 SMS month is insane because this means you are averaging a message every 2 minutes every waking hour of your day (30 day month, 8 hours sleep) Assuming it takes you 15 seconds to open SMS and read or type your message you are spending 1/8th of your entire waking life typing or reading texts. That is insane... or at least very impressive in quantity. Especially when you consider that you spend at least some time with your girlfriend and when you are together I assume you are not texting each other. Take in meals and showers and the time becomes even more constrictive.
Whatever makes you happy though.
It's unfortunate because on the Iphone you practically never have to delete sms messages. And even when you do decide to delete months worth of text messages, it takes no more than a second.
There should definitely be a quicker way to delete messages. I honestly can't even believe they shipped a phone that would force close while trying to delete text messages, but what do I know.
i'd really just like to know what folder the messages are saved in so i could try and delete them in terminal and see if that goes any quicker.
wow this is happening to me now.
anyoone know how to delete them faster?
Yea im having the same problem too any suggestions???
I have been thinking on this problem a bit and have a suggestion of sorts. An app could be made to access the SMS provider and delete conversation threads. You do not have to build a whole sms application, just enough to display sms conversations and spawn a background thread to handle the delete. Sms is almost definitely stored in a SQLite database. The problem you are experiencing is due to the fact that the developers did not take into account users with a large number of SMS messages so did not put the delete call in a separate thread. Really it is less efficient in most cases but not when the table gets so large that performance becomes an issue.
The main hurdle I can see in the short time I spent investigating is that the SMS content provider does not appear to be documented. Get a handle to that though and the rest is not too bad. Since there are third party sms apps that share the same content provider there must be some listing of it.
(Typed on my G1 so please forgive typos...)
Deleting 1,000+ threads dont seem to be a problem now and has anyone tried deleting on 1.5?
I transfered 5000 text messages from my iPhone backup to my HTC One... an operation that took 15 hours using HTC Sync.
on my iPhone i never deleted any messages - so the amount builds up over the years....
When the sync process was done i went into the messaging app to see if stuff was there; it was !
I noticed red triangles next to some of the conversations, apparantly a warning about the amount of texts...
Opening the conv. with my girlfriend takes 20-30 seconds (3000 texts) ... instead of lazy loading, it loads ALL OF THEM
sending a text also takes 10-20 seconds, because it loads all the texts again
if i dont want to delete all messages, what can i do ?
is there a lazy-load Texting app out there ?
can i store the texts in an archive ?
You could try backing them up to an archive using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en
then just delete them from your mailbox.
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You could try backing them up to an archive using URL
then just delete them from your mailbox.
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thanks, that looks like a useful option.. :good:
best option would be a texting app that lazyload like the iPhone - i wonder if it exist... :fingers-crossed:
Hi Guys,
I have a issue moving large amount of iPhone messages to HTC one, the HTC Sync Manager moves most of the them but some of the threads are not complete and others are missing. We are talking like around 100,000 messages going back a couple of years.
Is there any software out there that can complete this process better than the HTC Sync Manager. Maybe move a chunk at a time instead of the full 100,000?
Cheers
There is a program called Backuptrans iPhone SMS + MMS to Android Transfer may help. It lets you transfer messages with a single contact only at a time. Try it.
But I don't know if your HTC One Messaging app can deal with 100,000 messages. It may load the messages very slow.
Good luck!
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There is a program called Backuptrans iPhone SMS + MMS to Android Transfer may help. It lets you transfer messages with a single contact only at a time. Try it.
But I don't know if your HTC One Messaging app can deal with 100,000 messages. It may load the messages very slow.
Good luck!
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In my opinion, no one needs to have that many messages saved on their phone. They are way better off backing them up somewhere online for possible later use. Also, I can pretty much confirm that the messaging app won't work. I have about 5000 messages or a little less and the app is already unbearably slow. So 100,000 will simply make it unusable.