I just recently rooted and started loading ROMs that support SetCPU to overclock. I was wondering if there was a way to overclock the Sprint HTC Hero without running someone's rom (like Fresh Toast)? The only reason I rooted was to make my phone less laggy but I hate all these ROMs/Mods because most of them are broken/incomplete and hate how I always have to wipe my phone to update//change ROM.
Since lately I've been trying to do the exact same thing, I should be able to help.
You're going to have to root your phone (which you obviously already have done) and flash a kernel that allows OCing.
this is the only one I know of on this site: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690238
However, that one did not work for me. (I was always stuck at the HTC boot screen). You should try it though, and if it doesn't work PM me and I'll PM you a link to another site that had a kernel that worked for me.. since I don't know if linking to other sites is allowed.
shamrock11 said:
I just recently rooted and started loading ROMs that support SetCPU to overclock. I was wondering if there was a way to overclock the Sprint HTC Hero without running someone's rom (like Fresh Toast)? The only reason I rooted was to make my phone less laggy but I hate all these ROMs/Mods because most of them are broken/incomplete and hate how I always have to wipe my phone to update//change ROM.
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Sadly, the stock rom cannot be overclocked (for pretty obvious reasons.) Give Fresh Toast a try. I am running it without any problems. Toast's custom kernel makes it super fast. I also recommend using overclock widget with these settings:
Screen on: min: 576000 max: 768000
Screen off: min and max: 245800
just be sure to check "use my frequencies" and hit "detect frequencies" so the kernel does its job.
sierpinski13 said:
Sadly, the stock rom cannot be overclocked (for pretty obvious reasons.) Give Fresh Toast a try. I am running it without any problems. Toast's custom kernel makes it super fast. I also recommend using overclock widget with these settings:
Screen on: min: 576000 max: 768000
Screen off: min and max: 245800
just be sure to check "use my frequencies" and hit "detect frequencies" so the kernel does its job.
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The stock ROM CAN be OCed if you flash a custom kernel that allows it.
sierpinski13 said:
Sadly, the stock rom cannot be overclocked (for pretty obvious reasons.) Give Fresh Toast a try. I am running it without any problems. Toast's custom kernel makes it super fast. I also recommend using overclock widget with these settings:
Screen on: min: 576000 max: 768000
Screen off: min and max: 245800
just be sure to check "use my frequencies" and hit "detect frequencies" so the kernel does its job.
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I am currently running Fresh Toast, but after about 2 days of using it with SetCPU at 768000 max and 19200 min, my phone starts to get as laggy as before. I dont really know how to use SetCPU maybe I'm using it wrong, I just tapped the option where it chooses for you. Let me know what settings I should have it on if these are wrong.
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The stock ROM CAN be OCed if you flash a custom kernel that allows it.
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How do I flash a custom kernel? What is a custom kernel? What is a kernel? Lol sorry, I am new to this.
shamrock11 said:
I am currently running Fresh Toast, but after about 2 days of using it with SetCPU at 768000 max and 19200 min, my phone starts to get as laggy as before. I dont really know how to use SetCPU maybe I'm using it wrong, I just tapped the option where it chooses for you. Let me know what settings I should have it on if these are wrong.
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Well that min. is way too low imo. I use 633600 as my min. and it's fine.
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How do I flash a custom kernel? What is a custom kernel? What is a kernel? Lol sorry, I am new to this.
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Well I'm new too so I can only help a little.. lol.
You flash it the same way you flash a ROM I believe. Use the "flash from zip" or whatever it's called in recovery. Put the zip in the root of your sd card. You're going to want to put stock 2.1 on it again first though I think, unless you want to keep your current ROM.
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Well I'm new too so I can only help a little.. lol.
You flash it the same way you flash a ROM I believe. Use the "flash from zip" or whatever it's called in recovery. Put the zip in the root of your sd card. You're going to want to put stock 2.1 on it again first though I think, unless you want to keep your current ROM.
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lol i know how to flash roms and where to put em and stuff but what exactly is a kernel?
ok so if i use one of these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684838 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690238 I can use the stock Android 2.1 AND overclock?
a kernal is the foundation of an os. all the system values are stored there, its like...the engine of the phone;from a software perspective.
id highly recomend darchworks. by far the fastest, and i promise youll never need an oc tool. just hope you dont mind kissing sense goodbye
happy flashing
hostileenviroment said:
a kernal is the foundation of an os. all the system values are stored there, its like...the engine of the phone;from a software perspective.
id highly recomend darchworks. by far the fastest, and i promise youll never need an oc tool. just hope you dont mind kissing sense goodbye
happy flashing
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I loved his ROM but I love sense and just can't give it up :/
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I loved his ROM but I love sense and just can't give it up :/
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im happy you liked it, because its the best jk!
you should know that in most cases, if your experiencing lag, sense is usually to blame. why dont you give zens slide port a go? sense with a whole lost more options and its definatly overclocked...iht it was the fastest sense rom ive ever used.
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Hello,
Sorry for this very basic question, I am just wondering what is the difference between a Kernel and a ROM? I see in the development forum there are lots of new Kernels, what are these actually optimizing except underclocking or undervolting (understand that terminology). I am also wondering if the Kernels are specific for the original Nexus One 2.1 Android or can you install for example Modaco or Cyan ROM and then a different random Kernel?
Thanks!
To my understanding, a kernel is what directly interacts with the hardware. Every OS has this, but it's more customizable on our phones since it's based on Linux. The Rom contains the OS itself, and the software and file structure therein. The kernel even can tell the OS how fast the processor goes and how much juice to use from the battery.
Hope that makes sense, as I'm no expert. You can mix and match the two as far as I know. I've mixed them, anyway.
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
tomasitoc said:
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
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That is really a question better suited to the rom 's development thread, but in general yes you can flash a different kernel. Some kernel/rom combinations work better than others, but you really wont know until you try. Get comfortable with nandroid backups and start trying out different kernel combinations until you find one you like.
Usually most custom roms will include a kernel but they usually have tweaks like coding for 720p, oc, and audio tweaks and what not. Alsways do a nandroid back up and start exploring. When flashing kernels always wipe, I think their are exceptions but its best to wipe just in case. Browse XDA, download a kernel from your phone browser, rom manager install from SD, should be in your downloads folder, backup and wipe, repeat until your phone does what you want.
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which is the better to install???
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
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Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
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What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
Seshu9899 said:
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
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I know both Dude Random21 and codesplice have gone into this, but to try and give a bit more info...
The kernel is kinda like the nervous system of the body. It directly interacts with the hardware (which is how it is able to adjust CPU speed) and it is what allows the ROM to function.
The ROM is the rest of the body. Every other aspect of the phone. In fact, most ROMs include custom kernels. Various ROMs give you various features/enhancements/bugfixes. You will probably notice the biggest change in your phone if you load a custom ROM. Most people load the custom kernels to help with battery life as a lot of them allow you to lower the phones minimum processing speed from 245Mhz to 128MHz.
The ROM can change so many different aspects of how the phone works. There is CyanogenMod which is based off of stock Android with a lot of tweaks, bugfixes, and new features added. There is also MIUI, which is similar to the iOS style (not the same, but much closer than stock Android), and then there are a ton others out there.
Then which Rom is best for my samsung galaxy s???
so i am using froyo.jpjpg on my galaxys.
i want to flash new Rom with upgaraded to gingerbread.
can i flash only rom../ kernal also.
which is best Rom for samsung galaxys.
cynogenmod, miui, .?????
battery drain is very fast now ian running rom/kernal.
Start by going to the forum for your phone.
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thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
Seshu9899 said:
thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
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your welcomed
Nandbackup + Rom & Kernel
One question: when I do a backup with CWM, it is the Nandroid backup you talk about, correct...? Same thing? So, if I do a backup with CWM, it's a backup only of the ROM, or also the stock Kernel...? Imagine that I do a Rom (GingerDX for example), and flash with a custom Kernel.... If things go bad and I do a restore from my backup (stock) CWM, what do I restore? Rom, or Rom + (stock) Kernel...?
Yes, a backup that is done in ClockworkMod (or Amon_RA) is considered a nandroid backup. And this takes a complete snapshot of your system. Your ROM, your kernel, your apps and your data are all inlcuded. The only thing that isn't included is the fat partition on your sdcard. So if things go bad and you restore your nandroid backup, it will go back to however it was when you made the backup.
thanks a lot. reading this thread clear up a lot of things
Hi!
I am currently running Lite'ning ROM 6.1. XXKH3 Kernel version 2.6.35.11-ninphetamine-2.0.5+ [email protected] #20 on SGSII. Phew.
I've tried a lot of ROMS including MIUI, villain, galmetMIUI ICS version . I like Lite'ning ROM because it gave me the least (virtually Nil) problems (FCs/ reboots) and has almost all the features I need (TV-out that's missing from MIUI, good camera with panorama mode, Recording mode in phone). However I miss the CIFS feature. Is it because the kernel does not support it? Can I get CIFS support if I flash another kernel? Any suggesstions on which Kernel should I flash? I realise that this ROM is pretty old now so Can I get additional features with a newer Kernel.
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What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
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That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
radoslav.trahanov said:
That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
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The rom didn't overclock your phone. The kernel did. READ. You came to the MT4GS forum starting up a storm for people not giving you a direct link to the regular MT4G. How is it you cant find the freakin' "thanks" button? THERE'S A FREAKIN' THANKS BUTTON IN EVERY FREAKIN' POST. OPEN YOUR FREAKIN' EYES.
Sori m jst new here..jst b0ught my f0ne 2 m0nths ago. Flashed r0m: gingercrime ITA, flashed kernel: ver 2.6.35.14 v6. And iv overclock my fone 245-710Mhz, smartass. fone: lg optimus one, running on gingerbread 2.3.3
Many thanx xda developers..!!
Ok, I am a total noob and I only understand about half of what I have read, but I am addicted to this stuff. I have a hero with the latest sprint release (2.1) and then I rooted (thanks to Regaw) it and loaded a non OC'd version of Aloysius 2.1 and then moved to the PureHero 2.1.
However, I cannot run ANY overclocked ROM's, not one. I have tried other builds and other dev's and it just boot loops. I have the kernel for OC'ing, but it just won't boot when an OC'd ROM is flashed.
Am I out of luck with this device?
Thanks!
i assume your wiping?
hostileenviroment said:
i assume your wiping?
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Yes forgot that part. I have wiped EVERYTHING on the device and still nothing.
This is a known problem... some phones simply... can't handle overclocking. Sorry bud.
HeroMeng said:
This is a known problem... some phones simply... can't handle overclocking. Sorry bud.
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Figures. I want to try out a few other ROM's and can't. Figures.....oh well, at least Aloyisus 2.1 is a great ROM.
Edit: Weird thing happened, I flashed Blue Echo and got to it's boot screen, but then it boot looped.
Hey just wanted to update, thanks to D3fault and this link, I was able to OC my phone. I am running 710 on Aloysius 2.1 snow (768 froze my phone, thank heaven for Nandroid) via the OC widget on the market. My LWP is faster and my phone loads pages FAST. One thing though, I still cannot download OC'd ROM's.
Anyone have another suggestion?
smolck said:
Hey just wanted to update, thanks to D3fault and this link, I was able to OC my phone. I am running 710 on Aloysius 2.1 snow (768 froze my phone, thank heaven for Nandroid) via the OC widget on the market. My LWP is faster and my phone loads pages FAST. One thing though, I still cannot download OC'd ROM's.
Anyone have another suggestion?
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i saw a similar statement in anothr posting.
what is that zip file th link links to? is it just an oc'ed kernel? how do i use it; do i place on sdcard and flash from zip?
dsMA said:
i saw a similar statement in anothr posting.
what is that zip file th link links to? is it just an oc'ed kernel? how do i use it; do i place on sdcard and flash from zip?
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Yes, place on SD and flash. Once I did that I was able to grab the OC widget from the market and run aloysius 2.1 at 710. Makes a pretty significant difference BTW. Here is a link, http://forum.androidcentral.com/162759-post49.html
I like the stock ROM because it works. I think all I really need is root access and overclocking to have a good fast phone. What would be the best kernel to use with it if all I want is overclocking? Is not having a custom ROM a stupid idea?
Here's your ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
It's basically the stock Sprint 2.1 ROM that's been de-odexed. I use it and am plenty happy. If you like the stock Hero look and feel, then you'll be plenty happy with this ROM.
I'm also using an overclock kernel. You can use the SetCPU app (available for free elsewhere on this site) to fine-tune your max and min CPU clock speeds.
Here's a link to a whole family of overclock kernels, some of which were cooked up specifically to work well with the above-mentioned ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I've been using the regular 710mhz version of kernel listed for that ROM, but yesterday I loaded the 710mhz undervolt version just to see if my battery life would benefit any. Not that my battery life is a problem at all, though...in fact I've been getting GREAT battery life with the regular 710 mhz kernel I was running before.
I am using the same Rom but I seem to have issues with the OC kernels specifically for the Rom. I use the DarchHoneyOCV3 kernel and do not seem to have any issue with that one.
Tibedabeeto said:
I am using the same Rom but I seem to have issues with the OC kernels specifically for the Rom. I use the DarchHoneyOCV3 kernel and do not seem to have any issue with that one.
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That's the same kernel I was using before I went to the UV 710mhz for nfinitefx45...DarchHoneyOCV3 is a good kernel for sure, can't find fault with it.
Forgot to mention in my previous post, the reason I recommend the nfinitefx45 ROM is because it includes apps2sd, which lets you put your apps on the sd card and frees up active RAM (hope I stated that correctly). I never worry about running out of memory any more. And for all intents and purposes, it looks, feels and acts just like the factory Sprint 2.1 release. When you're done with the install, just use your phone like it was completely factory stock (only faster and smoother) if that's what makes you happy. On the other hand, if you want you can install the SetCPU app and tweak it however you want.
Don't be afraid to take the plunge, parrothead. You'll be in good company. And you almost can't go wrong going with the same combination Tibedabeeto did, as long as you can follow simple directions (I know I should put a disclaimer in there somewhere, LOL).
Hero, software version 2.32.651.2, kernel 2.6.29. Rooted, but otherwise completely stock. I want to be able to overclock. I know I have to put a custom kernel on, but so far all the kernels I find are older. Is there a way I can get an up to date kernel with a default overclock without having to compile? Is there an up to date kernel that all it does is uncap the overclocks? Also, I'd rather not put on a custom ROM at this time.
Thanks in advance.
The most widely used and undoubtedly the best is Deca's kernel - you can find in the Dev section. But, I am not sure if it will work with the stock ROM.
andythegreenguy said:
The most widely used and undoubtedly the best is Deca's kernel - you can find in the Dev section. But, I am not sure if it will work with the stock ROM.
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Just grabbed that and flashed it. Seems to work! I haven't tested anything else other than basic functionality but SetCPU does indeed say it is overclocked.
Thanks!
benutne said:
Just grabbed that and flashed it. Seems to work! I haven't tested anything else other than basic functionality but SetCPU does indeed say it is overclocked.
Thanks!
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Make sure to check WiFi. When I rooted the .2 stock, I lost WiFi connectivity with decas kernel. However, the last Zen kernel worked fine. The date on the kernel was like 8/22/10 but it was the only one that I could get to work and still have full functionality. Use the nopreflock version when you find the page.
Let me know
Hi, I've tried searching but what with the 30 second search delay and all the outdated threads, I'll ask afresh.
I have a rooted N1 with Set CPU running. Is there a simple way to overclock it, and to what speed?
What settings are recommended?
you need a custom kernel, than you can put your clock speed up to the speed, the **** allows you ( 1113, 1150 or 1190 Mhz)
my nexus can handle 1190 mhz, but there are not many kernels for this speed
have fun with your N1
BikerBoy030 said:
you need a custom kernel, than you can put your clock speed up to the speed, the **** allows you ( 1113, 1150 or 1190 Mhz)
my nexus can handle 1190 mhz, but there are not many kernels for this speed
have fun with your N1
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Sometimes misspellings are both funny and disasterous!
Most people say 1150 is the most you should run at for 24/7 use. I use 1113 on CM7 and the phone seems perfectly happy with this. Whether there is any noticable gain though is another matter
Thanks guys. Is there an easy guide to the recommended new kernel?
Will replacing the kernel lose me any data or SD card stuff or is it safe?
And will new updates like 2.3.4 come in from Google OTA?
Take this rom and you are happy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
2.6.38.4_AVS-CM7_CFS_20110429_1856.ZIP <<< with this,you would be happy
2.3.4? i can't see in the future but why shouldn't it come for our Nexus One
and sorry for my **** :s...i meaned cook of course
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-2-3-4-about-to-roll-out-to-nexus-s-available-for-download-now/
read it
Will this overwrite my data?
I'm confused about the difference between your suggested new "ROM" and the new "kernel" which is actually all I need for overclocking.
Do I have to get a new ROM to get a new kernel, or can I just get the new kernel on its own.
I like to keep things as close to stock as I can.
CJSnet said:
Will this overwrite my data?
I'm confused about the difference between your suggested new "ROM" and the new "kernel" which is actually all I need for overclocking.
Do I have to get a new ROM to get a new kernel, or can I just get the new kernel on its own.
I like to keep things as close to stock as I can.
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I believe all is required is that you are rooted. Then you can flash a new kernel. Think as a ROM as a new browser you would use to use your phone.
And no flashing kernels do not erase any data. HOWEVER always, always make a backup before flashing anything. Better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks, so the best new "kernel" (rather than ROM) to give me overclocking is?...
Most of the kernels floating around out there are compatible with and made for CM7 or one of its Kang's / and or variants. If you are running a stock ROM, a custom kernel may not be compatible with all of its features, ie the camera may force close etc...
Do a NANDROID, flash a custom kernel and then test. If certain functionalities are gone, restore your NANDROID and either live with stock or try a custom ROM.
Try Kernel Manager from the market
So I flashed CM7 but as predicted the camera doesn't load.
I wasn't able to take a nadroid backup. What else can I do to revert the kernel?
Please help.
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CJSnet said:
So I flashed CM7 but as predicted the camera doesn't load.
I wasn't able to take a nadroid backup. What else can I do to revert the kernel?
Please help.
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Try this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820172
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Try this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820172
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