Can't get any data in Hong Kong - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can't get any data in Hong Kong - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm in Hong Kong and bought a CSL prepaid card that is supposed to have data, but I'm unable to get any data connection. I'm using a t-mobile phone and every thing I've tried in the *#*#4636#*#* menu shows full connection strength but the data never kicks in. Any ideas on what I need to do to get data on my phone? The people at the shop said foreign phones don't work on data but I find that hard to believe. Tried calling tech support but all I get is an automated system that I can't understand (sounds like a woman speaking with a chinese/british accent with her mouth full of crackers).
3g is 900mhz here which my tmo nexus has, i don't care if i'm on 3g or 2g though, I just need some data. Why do phones have to be so difficult?

http://one2free.hkcsl.com/jsp/handsets_and_devices/gprs_video_email_settings/main.jsp?language=eng
I'm assuming you've got the correct APN settings?

Got it sorted out.
On CSL/1010 prepaid do this
Step 1: call 179179
Step 2: option 4 for services
Step 3: option 3 for HSDPA (would have figured this out if the recording was understandable)
Step 4: ...
Step 5: Profit!
Figured I'd post this for anyone else who might travel here. Cost is $50HK per day or about $7US which is totally worth it when your hotel wants to charge you $20US/day for internet and phone calls cost $2.40/min. T-Mobile Nexus one works perfect on 3G here. I did not need to change any APN settings.
I'm getting around 2Mb on speedtest in Central HK.
Sipdroid + Sipgate + Google Voice + Prepaid CSL = major winsauce!

Their tech support really sucks.

hectortse said:
Their tech support really sucks.
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I can't even judge their tech support since I have trouble with the language barrier. I only know a tiny bit of cantonese. I've heard it's hard to find good tech support on anything computer related in HK, that's why my company keeps sending me here to do the work. I interviewed many IT companies and all of them were pretty clueless when I showed them my server/network setup (to be fair it's unique but not that unique).
Would be nice to live here for a while, don't know if anyone hires really experienced gwilo IT guys though.

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HSDPA on tmobile

is there anything I have to do or turn in the settings on Kaiser because I don't seem to be getting the speeds.

Damo1888 said:
is there anything I have to do or turn in the settings on Kaiser because I don't seem to be getting the speeds.
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Which countries of TMO are you talking about?
In US, I don't think TMO has HSDPA thou. All I get is the EDGE speed in So. Cal.

T-mobile UK and I'm in the centre of Glasgow so was expecting it to work.

which web 'n' walk?
dont count your chickens feller. i had the same problem and i spent a half hour with tmobile discussing it. it boils down to which price plan you are on. yes tmobile does hsdpa, but not on their bog standard web 'n' walk price plan. to cut a long story short, you have to opt in for their web 'n' walk plus or web 'n' walk max price plans in order to get hsdpa. i wish they'd state minute details like that on the adverts.....
sorry.

I pay the £7.50 per month for unlimited web browsing on my phone with T mobile, and have noticed the connection icon changing to HSDPA when surfing the internet on my MDA vario 3. Does this actually mean I am obtaining the 1.8mbs?

Its been in other threads (sorry, cant find the links to them right now) but the story as i understand it is:
OLD price plans - you can get HSDPA but it might or might not be activated
New price plans:
W&W - no
W&W+ - yes, should be on by default
W&W pro - yes, should be on by default.
Now.... for those who should have it on, but havent:
Call T-mob, they will probably try to BS you, but just keep trying! Speak to tech dept, the customer service guys (apparently) cant turn it on, so try to get transfered to the techies.
If you have had W&W for long enough (i dont know when the change was, try googling on here) they "should" enable HSDPA for you, but you might have to tell them that as its an old contract you're entitled (dont assume they know)
Dont trust speed tests - they're generally pretty useless! or try serveral and you get a better idea
Dont trust the phone icons - stock rom is ok, if you've played with it, you might (or might not) have the wrong icons so 3g/E/H etc mean nothing!
Dont expect to always get great speeds, and dont phone T-mob every 5 mins... talk to them, try it, reboot phone, go outside, go somewhere else, etc etc etc. Still not quick? call em back!
This is for T-mob in the UK only - i have absolutly no idea about anywhere else in the world!

Just got mine today, on Flext 35 Web n Walk. I did the Kaiser Tweak to ENABLE the HSDPA support. It seems slightly faster BUT I do not know how to check the speed. I live in West London Zone 3.

Just found this, maybe you can try to test your speed
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5536.html

West London zone 3 Acton Town no HSDPA
But when I get into Central London like Euston, Covent Garden, SoHo, Oxford Street etc I can get the HSDPA
If you connected at HSDPA you should see a H icon instead the 3G icon on top.
Since the Kaiser cpu is not fast enough (slower than my old XDA IIi), I found the 3G vs HSDPA not a big difference in speed when surfing normal website.

HSDPA is available on all Tmobile tarrifs, but if you've been an old customer it sometimes needs them to activate it. Phone them and they will sort it.
You will know if you get HSDPA as the icon turns to an H rather than 3G. Note though HSDPA coverage isn't universal yet and it absolutely hammers battery life.
Neil.

Here is an interesting theory I have, and I want to know if it would work, and if so, how would I set it up...
I have a GREAT service providor... They customer service is top notch, I get unlimited TXT, MMS, Voice, and Internet fur under $60 a month including all taxes and fees.. I get free roaming on AT&T & T-mobile towers when I am outside of the "home" area.... But there is one place they are lacking...
Their internet is only a 9.6k connection... So it is painful to surf the web, unless on wifi.. the internet works fine for tomtom traffic updates, update the weather, and, well, that is about it.... Now, thinking WAY back, I used to have a Motorola MPx200 smartphone (still have it actually)... If I remember correctly, at a friends house who lived in an AT&T area outside of my home area, we teathered my phone to his computer and used it as a dialup modem, and if I remember right, we were able to connect at atleast 28.8k or 33.6k.... I know.. not broadband by any means, but a hell of a lot better than 9.6k.... Now here is the question... I spend most of my time outside of my "home" area and usually use AT&T's towers.... Would it be possible to somehow setup some dialup account in my settings to attempt to get a 56kish connection for my phone? That way I could browse the web and such in a little more user friendly way? Is it possible?
Please don't flame me or Einstein and tell me to get a "Real" carrier or drop them for AT&T, etc... As I said, they have great customer service which I appreciate, they only provide UNLOCKED phones to their customers so they can take the phones to any GSM carrier they wish.. They even spent an afternoon with me at one point setting up my Tilt so it works as flawlessly as it can on their network (once I already had it unlocked). I;ve been with them for over 5 years, and not planning on leaving any time soon (plus, where else could I pay this and get everything I am getting????)
Thank in advance for your input on this...

Will the WiFi Calling hack allow me to use a LOCKED N1 overseas for free?

Hey all. Quick question today. I'm taking my first overseas trip this weekend and I'd rather not be without the ever-handy N1. I don't want to run up costs or have to deal with temp phones/sim cards, so I'm going to go with our amazing Dev Team's Wifi Calling method.
I've researched and seemed to have found that even if overseas, WIFI calling will not charge me for roaming if the calls are made back to the US, and I'll confirm that with TMO, but can anyone let me know if they've had success using the process overseas? Is the phone usable once I'm in Asia or Europe if it's still carrier locked to TMO, or will I see some sort of lock out screen?
Thanks for all of your help!

I can't believe that almost a year after the phone is out, some people still don't bother reading before asking...
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CARRIER-LOCKED N1 !!!
Now, if you're asking whether the WiFi calling app detects the current network and locks you out in some way - that would completely defeat the purpose of WiFi calling, which is made from places with no reception, so I don't believe it's the case.

haha yeah, no nexus one phones exist that are locked in any way. all sold on planet earth were sold unlocked and carriers just sold them that way.

Good idea using the official wifi calling overseas.
I ignored wifi calling because of the two reasons below, but your idea makes it worth a try.
1) uses your minutes
2) supposedly only for $25 data plan users.
Try to set a proxy (located overseas,working) on your router to test, it may be possible with dd-wrt. Not sure.

The "WiFi calling" application if that is the one you are installing like a phone in a blue speech baloon?
I have used that when out of country before with a Blackberry to avoid those hideous charges while traveling.
That was made for T-Mobile and would not work unless you are a T-Mobile subscriber per my understanding. Not just regular sip client or anything like that.

Steps to get the Note fully functional on AT&T network?

Hello everyone! I just took the plunge and ordered my Note from Amazon. I am a former Dell Streak/DJSteve user who has been forced to use the Samsung Infuse with MIUI for the past 6 months and I could NOT be happier about the Note.
When it arrives tomorrow, what are the steps I should take to ensure maximum compatibility with AT&T's network/speeds? What configurations settings should I modify? Lets start an AT&T optimization thread .
I anticipate rooting the device as soon as I turn it on - any suggestions for a custom ROM/Radio while you are at it?
Thank you all in advance for the tips AT&T users!

I'm another refugee from the Dell Streak 5, for which DJ Steve could do only so much. You'll like the Note much better.
I can't comment on rooting. Let me start the ball rollling on getting you going on AT&T.
I popped into my Note the SIM I was using on my Streak. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't need a special "4G SIM" since the Note is not an LTE phone.
Next relates to your plan. Your post doesn't say what it is. I'm on a metered 4G Smartphone plan. Others have grandfathered unlimited plans. In any event, you need a compatible plan. The one you had for the Streak (assuming it was on AT&T) should work.
Third is the APN. There are a ton of posts in this forum on this issue. The wap.cingular APN works fine (if you can't find configuration I can point you to a link) but it is only 3G. You want the phone APN for HSPA+. But ... you need to be properly provisioned for that APN. Just having the SIM and the plan aren't enough.
if you call customer service, when they look up your IMEI, you won't be provisioned for the phone APN, just wap.cingular. (You can tell by the SOC for your data plan but that is a whole another discussion). Call tech support, nicely explain the situation. You'll need to give them an IMEI from an AT&T 4G phone. I used the IMEI for the Infuse (easily findable through a Google search). The tech then could provision me for the phone APN (if you can't find configuration I can point you to a link). I wrote here about this experience on my blog, and the AT&T tech even responded with a comment!
Hope this helps.

GenghisKhent said:
Third is the APN. There are a ton of posts in this forum on this issue. The wap.cingular APN works fine (if you can't find configuration I can point you to a link) but it is only 3G. You want the phone APN for HSPA+. But ... you need to be properly provisioned for that APN. Just having the SIM and the plan aren't enough.
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If you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan, stick with the wap.cingular apn. The newer apn's are regulated much more closely. You'll still get HSPA+, but your speeds probably won't go much higher than about 6mbit at best, which is more than enough for most things really.
The other thing to do is disable fast dormancy. From the dialer, enter in *#*#9900#*#* and disable fast dormancy.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
If you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan, stick with the wap.cingular apn. The newer apn's are regulated much more closely. You'll still get HSPA+, but your speeds probably won't go much higher than about 6mbit at best, which is more than enough for most things really.
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If you are metered rather than unlimited (can't tell from your post) I would think regulation would be a non-issue as you pay through the nose if you go over your limit. Also, I believe that theoretically the phone APN has a higher HSPA+ limit than the wap.cingular APN. Nevertheless, in practice my experience so far (in the Los Angeles area) is that the phone APN and the wap.cingular APN have similar speeds. So even if you are metered, you might want to skip going through the bother of provisioning to the phone APN as long as your speed is OK for your purposes on wap.cingular.
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The other thing to do is disable fast dormancy. From the dialer, enter in *#*#9900#*#* and disable fast dormancy.
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Definitely good advice. I forgot that one.

I'm on grandfathered data and have never noticed speed differences between the APN settings floating around on the net. It's not a 4G phone, so at max, any APN will give HSDPA+ (i.e. fake 4G) speeds any way you slice it.
I'm just using wap.cingular and it works well enough.

ericshmerick was the guy who got AT&T to recognize the GTN-7000 as a phone so we could have voice + data. When I called AT&T yesterday and gave them my Note's IMEI, they knew it was a phone, not a tablet. We all owe ericshmerick a lot of thanks, since now all we have to do is pick and choose among APNs, as opposed to dealing with AT&T trying to kick us off the voice network.

GenghisKhent said:
ericshmerick was the guy who got AT&T to recognize the GTN-7000 as a phone so we could have voice + data. When I called AT&T yesterday and gave them my Note's IMEI, they knew it was a phone, not a tablet. We all owe ericshmerick a lot of thanks, since now all we have to do is pick and choose among APNs, as opposed to dealing with AT&T trying to kick us off the voice network.
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+1
Indeed! Major kudos to Eric ^_^

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
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Indeed! Major kudos to Eric ^_^
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Thanks guys. It's hard to take credit for something that was broken to begin with. I just emailed and called a few people who probably wondered how I found their information (google is amazing).
But since AT&T has fixed their issues, we can all celebrate and use this awesome smartphone as it was designed.
Enjoy!

So I'm on a 2GB a month plan. Is wap.cingular ok or should I change it? If so, change it to what? And what does dormancy do?

Just got mine around lunch from UPS, threw the battery in just to
fire it up. WOW! Screen is clear as a bell & bright.
Mine came from Germany via Amazon. Sealed Note box, inside a box
with the adapter & instructions to set it to English.
It will get all setup tonight.

Namuh said:
So I'm on a 2GB a month plan. Is wap.cingular ok or should I change it? If so, change it to what? And what does dormancy do?
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On the 2GB plan, you should use the Phone apn. You'll get the best speeds that way. Just do a search for the correct settings on the Phone apn, and make sure that your account is provisioned for 4G. I believe you need to make sure that it using the "HSDPB" SOC code.
As for fast dormancy, you should disable that by entering *#*#9900#*#* in your dialer and disabling it from the menu that comes up. Basically, fast dormancy is a feature that some networks use in order to more quickly transition from an idle UMTS state all the way up to HSPA+ and back to idle again (when the connection isn't being used for a period of time). The idea behind this feature is to a) conserve battery life on your device and b) more efficiently scale and distribute available bandwidth between you and the cell tower. However, as AT&T does not use this feature on their network, having it enabled on your device can have a negative effect on your battery life in addition to making your data connection more erratic and generally slower (because there's wasted overhead being transmitted). The effect of disabling fast dormancy while on AT&T is that you'll notice the initialization time for your connection from idle to active will be slightly longer, but once active, it will stay at the highest available transmission rate (HSPA+) for longer before going back to idle instead of rapidly going between 3G, H, and H+ all the time.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
On the 2GB plan, you should use the Phone apn. You'll get the best speeds that way. Just do a search for the correct settings on the Phone apn, and make sure that your account is provisioned for 4G. I believe you need to make sure that it using the "HSDPB" SOC code.
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I'm not positive, but I believe that SOC code is for unlimited plans. Mine is a metered plan, and my new SOC code is HSSMT7. Once my SOC code changed to that, I was able to access the phone APN. Before I could not.
I'm curious if anyone else with a metered plan can confirm the different SOC code.

GenghisKhent said:
I'm not positive, but I believe that SOC code is for unlimited plans. Mine is a metered plan, and my new SOC code is HSSMT7. Once my SOC code changed to that, I was able to access the phone APN. Before I could not.
I'm curious if anyone else with a metered plan can confirm the different SOC code.
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I'm on the 2GB Smartphone plan for 4G and my code, assuming I'm looking in the right place in my bill, is HSSM. I had to view my data plan details for my prior month billing to find it. But, I'm not sure that's the correct code because nowhere do I see the acronym SOC.
In any case, I'm using the "phone" APN settings and I get 6.6 down and 1.0 up.

QuarterToNine said:
I'm on the 2GB Smartphone plan for 4G and my code, assuming I'm looking in the right place in my bill, is HSSM. I had to view my data plan details for my prior month billing to find it. But, I'm not sure that's the correct code because nowhere do I see the acronym SOC...
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I view my SOC code by the following method which I learned somewhere on this incredibly useful forum:
1. Log on to my AT&T Wireless account.
2. Choose Manage Features.
3. On the next displayed page, find and choose the hyperlink to your data plan. Mine is called DataPro 2 GB for Smartphones on 4G.
4. On the resulting popup window, take a look at the URL, particularly the end, which shows the SOC code. My URL ends: olamexecute?selectedFtrSoc=HSSMT7
Admittedly this roundabout way of viewing your SOC code is sort of like driving from LA to SF by way of NY. Reportedly there is an easier way viewing your data details, but if that alternative works, I can't figure out how to use it. Perhaps one of the countless more knowledgeable people on this forum can chime in.
FWIW, the very helpful AT&T tech who helped me provision my account so I could use the phone APN told me that the actual SOC code wasn't that critical, there were several that would get me to where I wanted to go (the HSPA+ fast lane).
Hope this helps.

GenghisKhent said:
I view my SOC code by the following method which I learned somewhere on this incredibly useful forum:
1. Log on to my AT&T Wireless account.
2. Choose Manage Features.
3. On the next displayed page, find and choose the hyperlink to your data plan. Mine is called DataPro 2 GB for Smartphones on 4G.
4. On the resulting popup window, take a look at the URL, particularly the end, which shows the SOC code. My URL ends: olamexecute?selectedFtrSoc=HSSMT7
Admittedly this roundabout way of viewing your SOC code is sort of like driving from LA to SF by way of NY. Reportedly there is an easier way viewing your data details, but if that alternative works, I can't figure out how to use it. Perhaps one of the countless more knowledgeable people on this forum can chime in.
FWIW, the very helpful AT&T tech who helped me provision my account so I could use the phone APN told me that the actual SOC code wasn't that critical, there were several that would get me to where I wanted to go (the HSPA+ fast lane).
Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I'm on HSSMT7. Also, it's good to know that the SOC code isn't that critical. Thanks again.

QuarterToNine said:
Thanks! I'm on HSSMT7. Also, it's good to know that the SOC code isn't that critical. Thanks again.
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You're welcome. One caution. I'm relating what the AT&T tech told me (about the actual SOC code not being that critical). He seemed knowledgeable as well as helpful. But I can't 100% confirm. Though after his change I had no problem accessing the phone APN.

QuarterToNine said:
I'm on the 2GB Smartphone plan for 4G and my code, assuming I'm looking in the right place in my bill, is HSSM. I had to view my data plan details for my prior month billing to find it. But, I'm not sure that's the correct code because nowhere do I see the acronym SOC.
In any case, I'm using the "phone" APN settings and I get 6.6 down and 1.0 up.
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Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

Hmm thats weird my code is olamexecute?selectedFtrSoc=LTESMT2....I used my wifes APN settings from her skyrocket and I get way faster download results in speedtest from 1.92mbs to 6.0mbs, but it times out in the upload phase of the test. MMS works, text works, phone calls work and internet works. I'm gonna try the "phone" apn settings next. Her skyrocket APN name is ATT pta. We don't have 4g LTE in our area yet. I'm on the 2GB 4g LTE data plan (I had a skyrocket too and returned it) and so is she. I also have AT&T's LTE provisioned SIM card in my Note kept over from my skyrocket. Should I call tech support and have my IMEI provisioned for HSPA+?

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Should I call tech support and have my IMEI provisioned for HSPA+?
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Namuh, I'll let better minds than mine answer that. My advise is to hold off until you get those answers. Once you go back you may never go back, if you know what I mean.

On the phone with tech support. My account is provisioned for 4G Hspa+. under a different imei number than the note though. They did give me the option to replace the imei number that is on my account with the Notes imei number. Not sure what to do. She told me that her supervisor told her that the only apn settings she could give out is wap.cingular because its an international phone. But wap.cingular only gives 3g speeds right? I'm in an Hspa+ area. I'm off the phone with tech support. I'm going to wait on a reply in this thread or other threads to see if I should have them apply my Notes imei to my account.

USA Carrier Test[Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Google Fi]

This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.

ZyroSS said:
This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.
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Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?

tech_head said:
Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?
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Yes, didn't work

So this is all true for the international version, but not for the Tencent edition. Tencent version only supports bands 1-4 and pretty much nothing else. Those are the old school bands for AT&T and TMobile, so signal is ok but not great. Indoors TMobile is pretty bad with the Tencent phone, whereas I get fantastic signal with my OnePlus 7 pro in the same places on TMobile.
Damn shame, other than that the rog2 is better in every way and I'm going to miss it dearly but I've got a 1 year old and not having a cell signal at home or work is not an option.

cyagl643 said:
Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.

Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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And what happens when the gsm(3g) gets turned off in beginning of 2020? Asus seriously f'd up not allowing volte.

homerunbm33 said:
So I have att and really would like to get this phone but concerned about any possible issues(for example no band 14 and 30) . Did you have any issues with service with att? I'm considering the rog, op7t or pixel 4. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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No, I had no real issues with AT&T, it's the reason I'm getting my 2nd sim to be an MVNO for this phone. 1 Carrier only AT&T is simply the best overall for this phone. If we say Verizon is 100% 4G LTE strength/reliabililty, then AT&T is like 90%, while AT&T is 60%. This is of course in more rural areas. In the city it matters not if you have AT&T or T-Mobile...

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The Verizon idea sounds like a great workaround because you can also download the My Messages app at the play store and it works the same as the website. The only downside, and correct me if Im wrong would be when calling people they would see your google number and not your real cell number. Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...

Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.
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Technically speaking 911 SHOULD work, but I'm not about to get in trouble trying that one out LOL. I have a backup emergency cell phone line for those emergencies since I also, cannot stand not being able to have that option even if the chances are slim. I am also keeping Verizon because it simply has the strongest 4G signal of the USA carriers that I tested, however AT&T isn't too far behind it's definitely good, just not great. AT&T gets calls and texts by default too so theres that as well lol

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Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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I may consider this as well. I'll likely run it Verizon only with the work around and see how it goes before adding a second SIM.
As for 911, I think I may be able to contact a local 911 operator and see what info I can glean from them.
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I did find this, which includes some info both on how 911 works with un-activated phones, and how to make a test call.
https://www.911.gov/frequently_asked_questions.html

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I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...
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I mean I tried the app on the current phone I have with wifi calling off and airplane mode on, and had someone text me and I got it.

Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you

Drkstover said:
Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you
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I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.

AVJ1221 said:
I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.
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What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...

ram4ufriends said:
What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...
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Try restarting your phone. Sometimes GV gets buggy for some unknown reason. I also have Hangouts and Hangouts dialer downloaded so Google assistant can make calls when I ask. I believe GV can dial out through dialer as well.
And make sure to allow GV and any other calling app you're using to auto start in your phone settings.

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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How is Good2go working for you?
Any problems in calls/texts?
Thanks.

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