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Sending SMS to an email address on 8125--is there a crack?

Does anyone know if there's a way to enable sending emails via the SMS app on the 8125 (without using 36245 as the email address)? If you try to send an SMS to an email (not a phone number), the app tells you it's not allowed. Several of us would like to be able to "chat" via sms with people on BlackBerries (for example) or 2-way pagers that aren't addressable as cell phones. Most other phones allow this, but Cingular has disabled it on the 8125. It certainly works on Cing treos. Doesnt work on 8125 with orig ROM or Summiter's excellent ROM upgrade.
Anyone know if this is a registry edit, or would it require a seperate program? Anyone able and willing to post a solution?

omg i just realized it's not letting me send sms to email addresses either >< I used to use send sms to emails all the time on my treo too >< ahhhh ~ any fixes please

Re: Sending SMS to an email address on 8125--is there a crac
aoldal said:
Does anyone know if there's a way to enable sending emails via the SMS app on the 8125 (without using 36245 as the email address)? If you try to send an SMS to an email (not a phone number), the app tells you it's not allowed. Several of us would like to be able to "chat" via sms with people on BlackBerries (for example) or 2-way pagers that aren't addressable as cell phones. Most other phones allow this, but Cingular has disabled it on the 8125. It certainly works on Cing treos. Doesnt work on 8125 with orig ROM or Summiter's excellent ROM upgrade.
Anyone know if this is a registry edit, or would it require a seperate program? Anyone able and willing to post a solution?
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You can always send MMS to email addresses with just text.
I'm curious in today's age why you need to send SMS to email addresses, probably same reason MSFT didn't include it. Can you elaborate more??
There is cross operability with all carriers for text messages so you can just put in the phone number of any mobile device and it'll work.
All Blackberries that are less than 3 years old support SMS over the phone # assigned.
I understand the issue for 2-way pagers but why can't you just send a quick email?

There's a need for SMS to 2-way pagers because sending an SMS is faster to create and send...since email requires a logon and data connection. SMS is the easier way to go if you want to "chat"

Send an SMS to 121
The first thing in the body of the message should be the e-mail address with the subject immediately after, in parentheses. Then a space, then your message. Example: to send an e-mail to [email protected] with a subject of 'billing question' and the body 'Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill' you would send the following to 121
[email protected](billing question) Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill
Voila!

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mobilehavoc said:
I'm curious in today's age why you need to send SMS to email addresses, probably same reason MSFT didn't include it. Can you elaborate more??
There is cross operability with all carriers for text messages so you can just put in the phone number of any mobile device and it'll work.
All Blackberries that are less than 3 years old support SMS over the phone # assigned.
I understand the issue for 2-way pagers but why can't you just send a quick email?
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I won't speak for the original poster, but I'll elaborate with my reason: I'm not an email/internet/IM junkie, and I don't need all that for work, so I don't have a data plan for my 8125 in order to use the real email capability. But, I do have the 100 SMS msg pack on my plan, and I occasionally need to send a quick email to someone when I'm away from the computer and only have my phone. I used this capability on my Nokia6800 all the time, and apparently the Nokia software took care of the special formatting, since all I had to do on it was type in (or select from Contacts) the email address, the subject, and the message. When I started searching today on this issue, I hoped there was a more elegant solution, but I'm perfectly happy with the instructions for a specially formatted SMS message (as long as I can remember them when I need to send an email). I just figured out that I can copy/paste an email address from Contacts, which I suppose will be better than trying to rember one and having to type it, so that's not too bad.
If I really needed to use email a lot from my phone, I guess I'd give in and pay for a data plan, but for now, this SMS trick works just fine.
Edit: almost forgot to say thanks to Hosehead for the tip. Much obliged.

Hosehead said:
Send an SMS to 121
The first thing in the body of the message should be the e-mail address with the subject immediately after, in parentheses. Then a space, then your message. Example: to send an e-mail to [email protected] with a subject of 'billing question' and the body 'Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill' you would send the following to 121
[email protected](billing question) Please contact me via phone to discuss my recent bill
Voila!
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Using Cingular this did not work...

Worked just fine through Cingular for me when I tried it this afternoon. The email I received looked just like the ones I used to send with my Nokia.

Has worked fine for me since I got my 8125. I recommend making sure you have a new "3G" sim, I know some of the older ones restricted SMS e-mail.

It works for me!
I sent the first test to my work e-mail. Apparently the SPAM filters didn't like it.
Second test to personal e-mail worked like a charm. This is nice to know.

well holy shi** i didn't even know you could do that. it had never even crossed my mind that SMS connected to e-mail
brilliant, johnson. brilliant!

I've sent email with mine through text before...
I was messing around with it when I setup my gmail account to forward me emails through text...

not working for me..
Hmm.. this is not working for me on Tmobile with an MDA.. Has anyone had any success with tmobile?

Send text using data plan, send text using internet.

PLease i just realised that i was still getting charged for sending text messages, even though i have tha total intertnet plan from tmobile.
I was just wondering if anyone knows of a program that would let me send text messages bypassing the cellular network, and using my internet,(be it wifi or edge or gprs) to carry the messages.
Kinda like when you use your computer to send texts to phones, is there a program for windows mobile?
thank you in advance

I believe there are a few websites out there to send messages with, tmobile used to have a public SMS application, however I am unsure of any method of "relaying" an SMS message through the included pocket outlook sms handler to one of those sites transparently.

thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.

moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers.
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one approach might be to use an email server to bounce the messages to sms email addresses.
say you use the email side of the messaging app, either through synching to exchange or through a pop, imap or whatever, and point the email at the sms address, I forget what the tmobile address is, but for example it would be like [email protected]
I guess that semi solves the problem without any programming, you would just need each carrier's email address, and specify a return address that would go to your phone for when they SMS back.

CaptDistraction said:
moyofalaye said:
thank you. I still will be awaiting answers
previous:H6315(hell in gadget form), Tmo original xda PPCPE.
CaptDistraction, you need to be creative about the 6315; I gave mine to my wife when I upgraded to to 8125. Got rid of the memory hogs and you can't imagine how our relationship has improved, we now talk about the same techy stuff; she complaing, I fixing by the way she no longer complains about how much time I spend with my phone, cause she's now doing the same. Now we have no time to talk to each other...... :twisted:
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Haha, I tried every rom out there, I kept the device for a while and finally sold it to support the MDA purchase.
Man I messed with that 6315 to no end, had so much stuff going on with it trying different app combos, spent hours in the registry, no matter how simple I kept it, I couldn't ever get it to answer calls in a timely fashion.
My biggest love with the MDA is when you press that green answer button, it immediately picks up the call.

Voice mail like the iphone

will this ever be possible to be done with software on out phones? Or is it something ATT does on their end just for the iphones? I saw a screen shot of it and thought it would be awesome to have it for the Tilt like that.

jallenclark said:
will this ever be possible to be done with software on out phones? Or is it something ATT does on their end just for the iphones? I saw a screen shot of it and thought it would be awesome to have it for the Tilt like that.
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callwave.com is similar. almost all the features, plus a couple more and "Virtual Voicemail". I've been using it for 6 weeks now. Its pretty good.

i will check it out, is it a monthly fee or onetime software buy?

I use callwave as well. You can set it to send you a text message with a translation of the voice mail. Also I have it send me email which gets pushed to my phone; the email contains the text translation as well as the wav file of the message.
It's free for now. It is in "beta". I have little doubt that eventually google will gobble this one up like it did with GrandCentral and that'll be good.

callwave is free right now, and it is superior to visual voice mail in a couple key areas (translation of voice to text being the biggest) the ownly downside is that you don't have a cute visual display to delete/listen to vm, but you can access it through the web, I have my login page bookmarked on my phone.

aaronsmckee said:
the ownly downside is that you don't have a cute visual display to delete/listen to vm, but you can access it through the web, I have my login page bookmarked on my phone.
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That's a pretty damn big downside as far as I'm concerned. I want voicemail as voicemail, not email or sms. When they work out a PPC frontend, they'll have a lot more customers.

I wanted that too so, I did this:
1) I got a FREE GrandCentral.com account
2) I bought a copy of MagiCall (SMS Filter)
3) I set GrandCentral to forward all inbound calls to voicemail and then notify via SMS my cellphone when a new message arrives
4) I set my phone's voicemail number to be my GrandCentral number
5) I logged onto GrandCentral on my PIE and made a favorite to that site and then using file explorer copied the shortcut from my favorites folder to my programs folder in the windows directory
6) I created a MagiCall rule that checked SMS messages as they arrived, if they came from grandcentral, they were suppressed from notification, deleted from my phone, and then MagiCall is to launch my m.grandcentral.com favorite.
The net result is:
I receive a phone call, my phone forwards unanswered calls to GrandCentral, GrandCentral takes a message, GrandCentral sends an SMS message to my phone, my phone activates the rule, deletes the message and then opens the GrandCentral Mobile page.
Of course you need a data connection (just like iphone) but I have the option to get my messages either via my phone's page, email (forwarded to my companies email), or dial into my grandcentral phone number to retrieve my messages.
:-D my cost $25 bux for MagiCall .
It works well. If you can't figure out how to setup the Magicall script then don't ask me.
MC

i just saw this post and signed up. This is very nice. my only concern is how much it will cost when beta is done. but i love the way this works. no more annoying ass vmail sign at the top of my screen!

I also signed up for callwave, seems pretty nice. Just wish i could change the email format from HTML to text now, just annoying to scroll through the message lol.

I use simulscribe both on my Blackberry and Tilt
Voice mails show up as mp3 files on the device, which you can play..foward ..rewind to your pleasure
Been working great for the past few months

Wow I signed up for this an its awesome.
Seriously.. it sends a text to me with the voicemail transcribed. It even spelled my name right!
Now, can i get it to recognize who the text is comming from instead of 1010100003? If I could get that to read "Voicemail" that would be awesome.

ntwrkwizard said:
I wanted that too so, I did this:
1) I got a FREE GrandCentral.com account
2) I bought a copy of MagiCall (SMS Filter)
3) I set GrandCentral to forward all inbound calls to voicemail and then notify via SMS my cellphone when a new message arrives
4) I set my phone's voicemail number to be my GrandCentral number
5) I logged onto GrandCentral on my PIE and made a favorite to that site and then using file explorer copied the shortcut from my favorites folder to my programs folder in the windows directory
6) I created a MagiCall rule that checked SMS messages as they arrived, if they came from grandcentral, they were suppressed from notification, deleted from my phone, and then MagiCall is to launch my m.grandcentral.com favorite.
The net result is:I w
I receive a phone call, my phone forwards unanswered calls to GrandCentral, GrandCentral takes a message, GrandCentral sends an SMS message to my phone, my phone activates the rule, deletes the message and then opens the GrandCentral Mobile page.
Of course you need a data connection (just like iphone) but I have the option to get my messages either via my phone's page, email (forwarded to my companies email), or dial into my grandcentral phone number to retrieve my messages.
:-D my cost $25 bux for MagiCall .
It works well. If you can't figure out how to setup the Magicall script then don't ask me.
MC
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I essentially tried exactly what you did but instead of GrandCentral, I tried it with Callwave (can't get a GrandCentral account ). It works great up until I get to my callwave homepage. The listen to voicemail button doesn't come up. It's a flash app so installed Flash but it still won't come up.
Anyone else know of any free services other than callwave and grandcentral? does anyone know how I can get a Grand Central account?

bimbot said:
I essentially tried exactly what you did but instead of GrandCentral, I tried it with Callwave (can't get a GrandCentral account ). It works great up until I get to my callwave homepage. The listen to voicemail button doesn't come up. It's a flash app so installed Flash but it still won't come up.
Anyone else know of any free services other than callwave and grandcentral? does anyone know how I can get a Grand Central account?
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I'll send you an invite to Grandcentral if you PM me your email.

youmail.com - by far the best for vmail as email attachments.
www.youmail.com
i've been using them for awhile now... It's free... all you do is sign up for an account and change your "voicemail" number to their number... which means it's 100% reversible.
From the account settings on the website... I turn off text message notifier and have voicemails sent to my gmail account as an mp3 attachment. This with push email delivers voicemail immediately to my phone.
Why it's better than grandcentral (which I also have and use for other things... love that service)... I do not have to log in through pie to get my voicemails... they are mp3 or wav attachments in pocket outlook inbox... that .. and all my voicemails are stored in my gmail account...
Just my .02 cents... but this is easily the best solution for voicemail... no more vmail notifications on the phone either... (I HATE THAT LITTLE SYMBOL).
Mark

How big are the .mp3 files? Just looking at data usage, and how long they will take to download!

I've been trying out Callwave but seems to me their voice recognition software is lacking. Very frequently they mess up on the "gist" of the message.

Saint - PM sent, Thanks!
Caswell - thanks for the heads up. I set up an account Lovin' it so far.

when I try to loing to callwave, I cant get past the submit button.. PIE just does nothing when I clcik the submit button. Callwave says that it is a javascript issue. How to I install javascript for wm6?

ntwrkwizard said:
I wanted that too so, I did this:
1) I got a FREE GrandCentral.com account
2) I bought a copy of MagiCall (SMS Filter)
3) I set GrandCentral to forward all inbound calls to voicemail and then notify via SMS my cellphone when a new message arrives
4) I set my phone's voicemail number to be my GrandCentral number
5) I logged onto GrandCentral on my PIE and made a favorite to that site and then using file explorer copied the shortcut from my favorites folder to my programs folder in the windows directory
6) I created a MagiCall rule that checked SMS messages as they arrived, if they came from grandcentral, they were suppressed from notification, deleted from my phone, and then MagiCall is to launch my m.grandcentral.com favorite.
The net result is:
I receive a phone call, my phone forwards unanswered calls to GrandCentral, GrandCentral takes a message, GrandCentral sends an SMS message to my phone, my phone activates the rule, deletes the message and then opens the GrandCentral Mobile page.
Of course you need a data connection (just like iphone) but I have the option to get my messages either via my phone's page, email (forwarded to my companies email), or dial into my grandcentral phone number to retrieve my messages.
:-D my cost $25 bux for MagiCall .
It works well. If you can't figure out how to setup the Magicall script then don't ask me.
MC
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Wow, all that and it still doesn't quite work like visual voice mail. Makes you appreciate how well Apple did with simplifying the whole delivery of this although it is probably why they require the data plan with the iPhone. I don't know it is worth $20 per month for this alone though. Sure, my wife occasionally uses Google Maps or Safari over Edge, but could easily live with the WiFi connction only.
At any rate, I'd say in 5 years time, all voice mail will have this visual component and be available form both your handheld, and the web.

Callwave
Seems that Callwave is now out of beta and charging a pretty penny for monthly or annual usage. Oh well.

Send contact over SMS

On my old Nokia non-smart phone, it had an option to send a contact over SMS. I find someone in the address book, select send this contact to, and select the person to send it to. When that person gets the SMS, the phone shows and contact name and number and ask if it should be added to the address book.
It could send an address book contact over SMS to many different phones and it would work.I guess it's a standard of some sort. I could also receive address book contacts the same way.
It was really handy when someone asked me if I had a number.
But my G1 can't seem to do this. Does anyone know of an app?

PorchG1 said:
On my old Nokia non-smart phone, it had an option to send a contact over SMS. I find someone in the address book, select send this contact to, and select the person to send it to. When that person gets the SMS, the phone shows and contact name and number and ask if it should be added to the address book.
It could send an address book contact over SMS to many different phones and it would work.I guess it's a standard of some sort. I could also receive address book contacts the same way.
It was really handy when someone asked me if I had a number.
But my G1 can't seem to do this. Does anyone know of an app?
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i have been wondering the same thing...
when i was on hero, i could send a vcard, but not all phones can open these, mostly older phones... i wish we just insert contact into sms

untill we have something better, the app contactsender works wonders

matthewboii said:
untill we have something better, the app contactsender works wonders
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thanks... installing now

it also appears that the Dream swallows received VCARD messages. Try and send a VCARD from another phone - you will not receive a SMS. Surprises me that Google missed out on such a basic feature. Especially in the business world, exchange of SMS'd VCARDs happens often.
Please star the following defect: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2412

SMS Grouping

I'm looking for a SMS app that allow you to turn off SMS grouping so that all messages appear as seperate entries even if they are from the same person.
The stock app doesn't doesn't do this & I have tried a few from the market place, but none have this option.
Anyone got any ideas?

I dont think any app would do that. Its kinda retarted dont you think? I
swyped from a galaxy far far away...

natious said:
I dont think any app would do that. Its kinda retarted dont you think?
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Normally I would agree but I have a unique situation. I receive about 10 automated service service jobs via SMS a day from one particular company. Unfortunately there system uses a lot of different numbers to send from, so it gets very confusing with some SMS's grouped togeather and others by them self.
I want the old fashion system of just displaying one SMS after another.

KTM690 said:
Normally I would agree but I have a unique situation. I receive about 10 automated service service jobs via SMS a day from one particular company. Unfortunately there system uses a lot of different numbers to send from, so it gets very confusing with some SMS's grouped togeather and others by them self.
I want the old fashion system of just displaying one SMS after another.
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You could give the contact a global name like "YOUR COMPANY HERE" and then add all the numbers to that contact, so in your inbox it all of them should be displayed, and in order of the time you received them.
This would only work if you have a set of numbers, if you are always getting new numbers then i dont know what you could do, ill have a think.

natious said:
You could give the contact a global name like "YOUR COMPANY HERE" and then add all the numbers to that contact, so in your inbox it all of them should be displayed, and in order of the time you received them.
This would only work if you have a set of numbers, if you are always getting new numbers then i dont know what you could do, ill have a think.
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Thanks for the idea but I have tried this. Even if the numbers are under the same contact the SMS's are still listed separately if there not from exactly the same number. Not sure how many numbers this company uses but I suppect it's over 20.