is there anyone out there found out if its possible in any way to unroot and relock the bootloader???
*sigh*
ibtl
i know this has probrably been answered alot of times but i figured ask and see how e are on this? any new updates on this??
xghostyxjokerx said:
i know this has probrably been answered alot of times but i figured ask and see how e are on this? any new updates on this??
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would like to see this happen to.
Not "ok" that it voids the warranty.
xghostyxjokerx said:
i know this has probrably been answered alot of times but i figured ask and see how e are on this? any new updates on this??
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You figured wrong.
uansari1 said:
You figured wrong.
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He figured people wouldn't act like trolls?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Relock+Nexus+One+Bootloader
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Relock+Nexus+One+Bootloader
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And .... [drumroll] .... that does not answer the question.
I can. Not many others with the same luck though.
jesus. Nobody gave this poor guy a direct answer?
Very few, and I mean probably like 5% of all nexus one's can relock their bootloader. It's some special Holiday edition or something.
But as of right now, no you can't relock it.
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jesus. Nobody gave this poor guy a direct answer?
Very few, and I mean probably like 5% of all nexus one's can relock their bootloader. It's some special Holiday edition or something.
But as of right now, no you can't relock it.
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thank you!!! at least some help and some dont...i thought this was a q/a section..thanks again!
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jesus. Nobody gave this poor guy a direct answer?
Very few, and I mean probably like 5% of all nexus one's can relock their bootloader. It's some special Holiday edition or something.
But as of right now, no you can't relock it.
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Just out of curiousity, when you say "holiday edition", are you referring to the N1s given to Google employees before the phone was released, or is this just a clever way of acknowledging the good luck of those who got a re-lockable phone?
If the latter, is there any pattern by which one can recognise these phones (serial number, manufacturing date/facility, etc.), or is it just luck of the draw?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Relock+Nexus+One+Bootloader
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Ironically, that leads to the search results where I found the link to this page. lol
Penguissimo said:
Just out of curiousity, when you say "holiday edition", are you referring to the N1s given to Google employees before the phone was released, or is this just a clever way of acknowledging the good luck of those who got a re-lockable phone?
If the latter, is there any pattern by which one can recognise these phones (serial number, manufacturing date/facility, etc.), or is it just luck of the draw?
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I'm not 100% sure but I believe "Holiday edition" refers to the special versions of the phones that have the battery cover with a QR code in it, as said QR code leads to a special holiday game when scanned on the Nexus One. Serial number can't be used to determine which Nexii (Nexuses?) can be relocked and which can't. The easiest way to tell if a Nexus One can be relocked is to power it off, hold the track ball, and power it on again. This boots into the bootloader where you will see on the second line something like "NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON." 'S-ON' means that the bootloader can not be relocked while 'S-OFF' indicates a device can be easily be relocked by running a simple fastboot command from your computer, ''fastboot oem lock." I hope this answers your question.
I know the Nexus One has already been successfully rooted without unlocking the bootloader, but I still hope we can figure out a method for relocking the bootloader. I don't mean to scam warranty, I just hate that awful lock icon on the boot screen.
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Ironically, that leads to the search results where I found the link to this page. lol
I'm not 100% sure but I believe "Holiday edition" refers to the special versions of the phones that have the battery cover with a QR code in it, as said QR code leads to a special holiday game when scanned on the Nexus One. Serial number can't be used to determine which Nexii (Nexuses?) can be relocked and which can't. The easiest way to tell if a Nexus One can be relocked is to power it off, hold the track ball, and power it on again. This boots into the bootloader where you will see on the second line something like "NEXUSONE PVT SHIP S-ON." 'S-ON' means that the bootloader can not be relocked while 'S-OFF' indicates a device can be easily be relocked by running a simple fastboot command from your computer, ''fastboot oem lock." I hope this answers your question.
I know the Nexus One has already been successfully rooted without unlocking the bootloader, but I still hope we can figure out a method for relocking the bootloader. I don't mean to scam warranty, I just hate that awful lock icon on the boot screen.
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Shouldn't it be possible to simply flash the SPL from a re-lockable phone onto a phone that (before) couldn't?
nexusdue said:
Shouldn't it be possible to simply flash the SPL from a re-lockable phone onto a phone that (before) couldn't?
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Unfortunately, no this is not possible. Trying to do so would most likely lead to a bricked handset as the retail devices have a 512k spl and the engineering spl from holiday phones is 768k in size.
Is this working?
http://www.machackpc.com/headline/restore-your-nexus-one-to-its-original-shipping-image/
Will it brick the phone ?
nomedor said:
Is this working?
http://www.machackpc.com/headline/restore-your-nexus-one-to-its-original-shipping-image/
Will it brick the phone ?
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It will not brick the phone. It will work fine for what it's meant to do. Here's a quote from the page
What will be the end result of your Nexus One:
It will reset your system files to the original System Files
It will reset your kernel/boot image to the original shipping boot image
It will reset your recovery to original recovery
The only thing we will not be able to do at this time is to RE-LOCK your Nexus One.
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Note that this does not re-lock the device which is what this thread is about. As of right now, there is no way that has been made publicly visible to relock the bootloader of an unlocked S-ON Nexus One. Maybe in the future there will be a way. I hope so, but for now, we're stuck. The method from the link can be used only to restore your phone to the stock ROM, so that you can once again receive OTA updates. It will take away your root priveleges, which I'd assume is the reason you've unlocked your device in the first place. So unless you're tired of being in control of your device, it's pointless.
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I hope this answers your question.
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It does, thanks Very informative!
crawler9 said:
Unfortunately, no this is not possible. Trying to do so would most likely lead to a bricked handset as the retail devices have a 512k spl and the engineering spl from holiday phones is 768k in size.
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I have a shipping S-OFF SPL, but apparently nothing can be done with it.
would be nice to see team unrevoked work on this......
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I'm blocked on bootloader with S-ON, i can't use fastboot and there isn't a recovery installed on my phone... please can anyone help me?
Unlock the bootloader.
Solved via fastboot and unlocked bootloader...thanks! Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
Look up Blackrose bootloader mod in Development forum.
--__LoRiS__-- said:
Solved via fastboot and unlocked bootloader...thanks! Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
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No way yet to relock the bootloader unless you have S-OFF. At this point, the only way to get S-OFF is to use an XTC clip.
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efrant said:
No way yet to relock the bootloader unless you have S-OFF. At this point, the only way to get S-OFF is to use an XTC clip.
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care to provide more info?? this sparked my interest.
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care to provide more info?? this sparked my interest.
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What kind of info do you want?? If you want S-OFF on your N1, buy an XTC clip. There's a link in my signature.
Relocking the bootloader isn't needed. If you want to get rid of the padlock sign - flash Blackrose bootloader, it'll give you that and much more. Personally, I don't think there's a good reason to want to relock the bootloader.
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Personally, I don't think there's a good reason to want to relock the bootloader.
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I agree with you, except there is one reason to want to re-ock the bootloader: to say that you can. Whether it's a good one, is debatable.
With the blackrose the guaranty is the same avoid??? The only reason is guaranty...
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With the blackrose the guaranty is the same avoid??? The only reason is guaranty...
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As I said earlier, Blackrose does NOT re-lock the bootloader, so the warranty is still void.
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For that your right so an experienced user would know to look in bootloader to see if the security is set to S-off but I bet you htc just check to see if there is a padlock (I say this because when I got mine repaired the guy didn't even seem to know what cyanogen mod was so I doubt they know about blackrose) so technically your warranty is void but you can probably get away with a repair anyway. Though this is pretty irrelevant because the nexus one has a 1 year warranty and the nexus one was no longer sold by this time last year so everyone's warranties should be expired by now.
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For that your right so an experienced user would know to look in bootloader to see if the security is set to S-off but I bet you htc just check to see if there is a padlock (I say this because when I got mine repaired the guy didn't even seem to know what cyanogen mod was so I doubt they know about blackrose) so technically your warranty is void but you can probably get away with a repair anyway. Though this is pretty irrelevant because the nexus one has a 1 year warranty and the nexus one was no longer sold by this time last year so everyone's warranties should be expired by now.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: although unlocking your bootloader technically voids your warranty, based on users' experiences here and in other forums, HTC will still honor it, despite an unlocked bootloader.
By the way, some N1's have 2-year warranties, depending on where you bought it.
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Ya I've herd of a few cases that the bootloader was unlocked and they got repairs anyway but I've also herd of some where they didn't so a 50 - 50 chance isn't that good, so it's better to put the odds on your side. Now the fact that some N1's had a 2 year warranty that I had no idea so thanks for the info.
I picked the HTC One up from AT&T a few days ago, today I unlocked the bootloader and want to go back to the locked bootlader. Anyways I went back to the locked and now my device says TAMPERED*. How do I get rid of this?
Also, My device is recognized as a CWS_001
I think its if you have a custom kernel.
shizdan said:
I picked the HTC One up from AT&T a few days ago, today I unlocked the bootloader and want to go back to the locked bootlader. Anyways I went back to the locked and now my device says TAMPERED*. How do I get rid of this?
Also, My device is recognized as a CWS_001
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You can't, at least not yet.
With S-On, the One will say TAMPERED when you unlock the bootloader and if I remember correct when you re-lock it, it'll say RE-LOCKED.
It's not something to worry about, it is a measure on HTCs end for warranty issues I presume.
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Wow, this could be a ****ing HUGE determining factor for people buying this phone.
I don't get it... Why are people so surprised? Besides, you know the risk of unlocking...
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If you actually read what you agreed to when you unlocked the bootloader, you would have already known that re-locking the bootloader doesn't restore warranty or erase the evidence that you had unlocked it.
Long813 said:
You can't, at least not yet.
With S-On, the One will say TAMPERED when you unlock the bootloader and if I remember correct when you re-lock it, it'll say RE-LOCKED.
It's not something to worry about, it is a measure on HTCs end for warranty issues I presume.
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Wouldn't it say
**TAMPERED**
RE-LOCKED
I would be surprised if they removed the tampered warning just by relocking.
stevedebi said:
Wouldn't it say
**TAMPERED**
RE-LOCKED
I would be surprised if they removed the tampered warning just by relocking.
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Following posts around here seem to say that to be true. Your last sentence seems to contradict the above though?
Long813 said:
Following posts around here seem to say that to be true. Your last sentence seems to contradict the above though?
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I haven't (yet) unlocked my One, I was actually asking if anyone had relocked their device and could confirm that the "**TAMPERED**" goes away.
It makes no sense for HTC to do this, because someone could really mess up the ROM contents and then relock the device.
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I haven't (yet) unlocked my One, I was actually asking if anyone had relocked their device and could confirm that the "**TAMPERED**" goes away.
It makes no sense for HTC to do this, because someone could really mess up the ROM contents and then relock the device.
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Oh, you misread my post then.
It will still say TAMPERED. But, in addition too, it will say RELOCKED. I also recall reading past HTC devices where they were able to get the TAMPERED title to go away, but it would still say RELOCKED, so the end result is the same.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to go back to 100% factory, yet, until there is away to get S-off.
Viewing the XDA article though, unlocking/rooting your device won't void your warranty, and you can get a stock rom back on your device if you end up screwing something up.
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Oh, you misread my post then.
It will still say TAMPERED. But, in addition too, it will say RELOCKED. I also recall reading past HTC devices where they were able to get the TAMPERED title to go away, but it would still say RELOCKED, so the end result is the same.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to go back to 100% factory, yet, until there is away to get S-off.
Viewing the XDA article though, unlocking/rooting your device won't void your warranty, and you can get a stock rom back on your device if you end up screwing something up.
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Yes, HTC is pretty good about repairing their hardware, unless they can confirm that what the user did was directly responsible for the failure. I haven't unlocked mine yet because I'm pretty satisfied with the stock ROM. I'm hoping for an update to get rid of the "menu button" issue though...
This is the first HTC phone I haven't unlocked and flashed. Yet.
It sua tempered when there's an unsigned kernel/recovery still on the phone... If you flash stock recovery/kernel and relock then the tampered will go away.
But s-off is what we need to rewrite those flags
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So, my lovely XZ that is supposedly locked to Three UK says bootloader unlockable=no. However, when I hold up and plug in the usb, the light goes blue and Flashtool reports that a fastboot device is connected. Isn't fastboot unusable on a locked bootloader? Anything simple I can do to check this?
Secondly, if fastboot can be accessed, and I have an auto-generate key from the Sony bootloader unlock site, will this still now work if bootloader unlockable=no? Or am I barking up the incorrect trees here? I have toa dmit I didn't check whether bootloader was unlockable before flashing the stock variation by [NUT] and I know the root method he uses sometimes sets this value to "no" even though it was previously yes. Would flashing the "fix" for this to check break anything if the bootloader isn't unlockable?
Operator locked Phones can't be unlocked, so yes, your barking up the wrong tree.
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Operator locked Phones can't be unlocked, so yes, your barking up the wrong tree.
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Thanks, just thought I may have got lucky
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Thanks, just thought I may have got lucky
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I'm tempted to go to a Service Centre with a couple of crisp bank notes and see if I can get mine done, and this is the last time I get a Phone from an operator.
From me to you.
XperienceD said:
I'm tempted to go to a Service Centre with a couple of crisp bank notes and see if I can get mine done, and this is the last time I get a Phone from an operator.
From me to you.
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If you have any success please let me know the bank note configuration and method for installation into Sony operatives hands.
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If you have any success please let me know the bank note configuration and method for installation into Sony operatives hands.
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I will. I did have faith in the great Devs here coming up with a solution, but that has since faded from what I've been reading, and we've got Sony, along with the operators to blame for that.
Mainly the operators. I actually asked 3 why they locked the bootloader. They spun some crap about security and kept telling me that I could to to Sony to unlock it which shows they know nothing. Seems like it's all in the ta partition but without doing a diff of a hex dump of unlocked and locked from the same device don't really know what can be done.
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Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
Welcome to the club!
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Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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Why in the world would you relock the bootloader? Against commonsense it would seem. Also, there are threads on here dealing with the update and warning against relocking the boot loader. Those threads also describe efforts to recover from the situation.
wtherrell said:
Why in the world would you relock the bootloader? Against commonsense it would seem. Also, there are threads on here dealing with the update and warning against relocking the boot loader. Those threads also describe efforts to recover from the situation.
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I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
necroside007 said:
Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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Welcome to the club!
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AndrewZorn said:
I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
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If you want to update to the newest OTA you dont need to lock the bootloader back up. The bootloader can remained unlocked when doing this. Its been posted all over XDA about not having to do this. The only time you may want to relock the bootloader is when selling it to someone or trading it in. Thats it.
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I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053497.
Well...I'm not browsing the XDA every day, i only come here for solutions for my problems....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053497.
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Yeah, posted this morning. What a warning to everyone who did this before.
And saying not to do something that plenty of people want to do (like, returning to stock) isn't very significant.
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Well...I'm not browsing the XDA every day, i only come here for solutions for my problems....
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well not to come off rude but number one rule for xda before u post is search, and as you can tell there are multiple threads on this exact same topic.
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Yeah, posted this morning. What a warning to everyone who did this before.
And saying not to do something that plenty of people want to do (like, returning to stock) isn't very significant.
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returning to stock and relocking the bootloader dont go together. You can return to stock and not lock the bootloader. Locking the bootloader has nothing to do with returning a device back to stock. It returns the device back to factory state if u lock it back up. Locking the device back up only should be used for selling the device, or returning the device for repairs. not for taking a ota.
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Locking the bootloader has nothing to do with returning a device back to stock. It returns the device back to factory state if u lock it back up. Locking the device back up only should be used for selling the device, or returning the device for repairs. not for taking a ota.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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There is no downside to a unlocked bootloader. If i remember correctly a locked bootloader is only for oem to protect for warranty issues nothing to do with security that your describing. A locked bootloader or unlocked bootloader tells the oem that this device was unlocked or locked and will tell the consumer (us) that the warranty was void. Number one rule when taking a device back to OEM for repair is return to stock and lock device like I stated above. Security issues has nothing to do with the bootloader. From my understanding its just for the OEM warranty purposes Only!
Edit: what u described above is the same thing I described. Only need to lock device back up for warranty purposes or reselling. Thats it.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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I posted the warning because people are not being careful. They are locking the bootloader without even checking it works. I've edited the post to say that. But if you're the sort of person that will be flashiogn a lot, a locked bootloader is not a good thing to have now because if you break recovery and cannot boot your device, you are at present - completely screwed. If you want to be stock, that shouldn't be an issue. Just be careful is all we're saying. ...and I cannot help it if my warning comes after some people have made this mistake. If no one made the mistake, I wouldn't have needed to post a warning. Can of peanuts "May contain nuts"... You know, because you know someone somewhere who was allergic to nuts, ate the nuts.
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I posted the warning because people are not being careful. They are locking the bootloader without even checking it works. I've edited the post to say that. But if you're the sort of person that will be flashiogn a lot, a locked bootloader is not a good thing to have now because if you break recovery and cannot boot your device, you are at present - completely screwed. If you want to be stock, that shouldn't be an issue. Just be careful is all we're saying. ...and I cannot help it if my warning comes after some people have made this mistake. If no one made the mistake, I wouldn't have needed to post a warning. Can of peanuts "May contain nuts"... You know, because you know someone somewhere who was allergic to nuts, ate the nuts.
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I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
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There is no downside to a unlocked bootloader. If i remember correctly a locked bootloader is only for oem to protect for warranty issues nothing to do with security that your describing. A locked bootloader or unlocked bootloader tells the oem that this device was unlocked or locked and will tell the consumer (us) that the warranty was void. Number one rule when taking a device back to OEM for repair is return to stock and lock device like I stated above. Security issues has nothing to do with the bootloader. From my understanding its just for the OEM warranty purposes Only!
Edit: what u described above is the same thing I described. Only need to lock device back up for warranty purposes or reselling. Thats it.
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I thought that an unlocked bootloader allowed someone without 'normal' access to the files on your phone. That's why the bootloader lock/unlock wipes the device.
You're still completely missing my point with the warranty thing. Suppose my phone's unlocked and my screen breaks. Or my USB port stops working. That big unlocked logo under the Google is going to make getting a replacement really difficult.
By saying there's NO downside to unlocking the bootloader for daily use is absurd. I wanted to go back to as-shipped state for daily use, and locked bootloader is part of that. That's a reasonable goal. I don't care if there's something about the bootloader unlocked that you find valuable. I got tired of the tinkering and decided I just wanted my Nexus 6 to be back the way it was - completely.
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I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
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If guides don't say that at the moment, they definitely should now. I'll look at ours here and ask the OP's to update.
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I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
I thought that an unlocked bootloader allowed someone without 'normal' access to the files on your phone. That's why the bootloader lock/unlock wipes the device.
You're still completely missing my point with the warranty thing. Suppose my phone's unlocked and my screen breaks. Or my USB port stops working. That big unlocked logo under the Google is going to make getting a replacement really difficult.
By saying there's NO downside to unlocking the bootloader for daily use is absurd. I wanted to go back to as-shipped state for daily use, and locked bootloader is part of that. That's a reasonable goal.
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Root access is for the special files. and also i had the same issues u mentioned above and i always found a way to return a device to stock.
1) broken screen- repaired myself
2) broken usb port - repaired myself
I only take in for warranties if it has to do with something that I cant fix myself. This is a risk that all users take in this hobby.
the_rooter said:
Root access is for the special files. and also i had the same issues u mentioned above and i always found a way to return a device to stock.
1) broken screen- repaired myself
2) broken usb port - repaired myself
I only take in for warranties if it has to do with something that I cant fix myself. This is a risk that all users take in this hobby.
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Alright, so how do I return mine to stock?
Your self-repair solutions are laughable. You're completely missing the point. I'm done arguing this.
AndrewZorn said:
Alright, so how do I return mine to stock?
Your self-repair solutions are laughable. You're completely missing the point. I'm done arguing this.
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its not laughable. unless u buy an extended warranty the warranty is up after a year so you would have to figure the work yourself. If you are in the boat where u locked it back up and took the ota and bootlooping or whatever. your stuck till there is a solution. if u want to return to stock . Just return to stock but dont lock the bootloader back up, and flash. its that simple.
Edit: we are not arguing. Its just i have my way on repairs and you have yours. its a debate i guess
Edit: this issue has been brought up and is being researched. i was talking about the returning to stock for repairs dont try and put words in my mouth saying i know a fix.
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
wolfnumba1 said:
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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reboot into bootloader mode and flash that way. OTA is the worst way to update, IMO.
mikeprius said:
reboot into bootloader mode and flash that way. OTA is the worst way to update, IMO.
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I can't flash images with a locked bootloader or is there a way around that?
wolfnumba1 said:
I can't flash images with a locked bootloader or is there a way around that?
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the OTA wiped your custom recovery and didn't load the ROM properly !??!?!?! Yikes....................if your phone has stock recovery and the bootloader is locked then it is bricked and you need to send it in.
Device was completely stock, including recovery no custom recovery or root or anything.
That's strange....
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That's strange....
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Lol I know tell me about it.... I am going to see if motorola will send me a replacement but not to confident they will.
did you have root before taking the ota? anyways, sounds like you have the first N brick.
wolfnumba1 said:
Lol I know tell me about it.... I am going to see if motorola will send me a replacement but not to confident they will.
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They may....I think the big question is if they still have any in stock......anyways, let us know what happens....that's a very unfortunate situation. The first thing I did when I got my phone was unlock the bootloader and I have not re-locked it since.
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did you have root before taking the ota? anyways, sounds like you have the first N brick.
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No did not have root, was completely stock.
mikeprius said:
They may....I think the big question is if they still have any in stock......anyways, let us know what happens....that's a very unfortunate situation. The first thing I did when I got my phone was unlock the bootloader and I have not re-locked it since.
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Yea sucks, device is out of warranty so I am SOL it seems. Lol I don't unlock because it breaks android pay and other security features which I did not want to disable.
wolfnumba1 said:
No did not have root, was completely stock.
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yea, read. i was going to post when no one else posted, but had a customer walk in. by the time i posted it was too late :angel:
wolfnumba1 said:
Yea sucks, device is out of warranty so I am SOL it seems. Lol I don't unlock because it breaks android pay and other security features which I did not want to disable.
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This is even more unfortunate. You can use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader. I've flashed my phone back to stock images with the bootloader unlocked and Android Pay works. It's not contingent on a locked bootloader, only factory stock images.
mikeprius said:
This is even more unfortunate. You can use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader. I've flashed my phone back to stock images with the bootloader unlocked and Android Pay works. It's not contingent on a locked bootloader, only factory stock images.
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Oh weird, when you check off the allow oem unlock it says disabled security features, I wonder what that means then... yes it sucks, now a very nice looking paperweight lol
wolfnumba1 said:
Oh weird, when you check off the allow oem unlock it says disabled security features, I wonder what that means then... yes it sucks, now a very nice looking paperweight lol
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That's just a general warning. No bearing on AP.......well you may be able to sell the phone as some people may buy it. I'm sure someone out there has a way to get it back, but I'm not sure how. I recall seeing a thread where someone in Cambodia did the same thing and he took it to a shop that was able to reverse it.....
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That's just a general warning. No bearing on AP.......well you may be able to sell the phone as some people may buy it. I'm sure someone out there has a way to get it back, but I'm not sure how. I recall seeing a thread where someone in Cambodia did the same thing and he took it to a shop that was able to reverse it.....
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Lol really? Recall where?
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Lol really? Recall where?
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I can't find the thread, but I did find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-bricked-november-security-ota-t3242773
It looks like you are not the first to be bricked with an OTA update. There should be a sticky about this issue moving forward.
mikeprius said:
I can't find the thread, but I did find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-bricked-november-security-ota-t3242773
It looks like you are not the first to be bricked with an OTA update. There should be a sticky about this issue moving forward.
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Lol so ****ty, looks like the phone is ****ed
wolfnumba1 said:
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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Count me in as one of the potentially many more that bricked his phone while trying out the Beta program via OTA...
sorry to tell you this , but with locked bootloader , your phone is hard bricked, no way to recover, only by sending it back to motorola or amazon if you bought from them. i sold about 100 pieces of nexus 6 to customers and my first advice to them is to check " Enable oem unlocking "
anyway email google and blame them for this and i am sure they will help