I'm blocked on bootloader with S-ON, i can't use fastboot and there isn't a recovery installed on my phone... please can anyone help me?
Unlock the bootloader.
Solved via fastboot and unlocked bootloader...thanks! Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
Look up Blackrose bootloader mod in Development forum.
--__LoRiS__-- said:
Solved via fastboot and unlocked bootloader...thanks! Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
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No way yet to relock the bootloader unless you have S-OFF. At this point, the only way to get S-OFF is to use an XTC clip.
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efrant said:
No way yet to relock the bootloader unless you have S-OFF. At this point, the only way to get S-OFF is to use an XTC clip.
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care to provide more info?? this sparked my interest.
Speedmaster_102 said:
care to provide more info?? this sparked my interest.
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What kind of info do you want?? If you want S-OFF on your N1, buy an XTC clip. There's a link in my signature.
Relocking the bootloader isn't needed. If you want to get rid of the padlock sign - flash Blackrose bootloader, it'll give you that and much more. Personally, I don't think there's a good reason to want to relock the bootloader.
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Personally, I don't think there's a good reason to want to relock the bootloader.
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I agree with you, except there is one reason to want to re-ock the bootloader: to say that you can. Whether it's a good one, is debatable.
With the blackrose the guaranty is the same avoid??? The only reason is guaranty...
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With the blackrose the guaranty is the same avoid??? The only reason is guaranty...
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As I said earlier, Blackrose does NOT re-lock the bootloader, so the warranty is still void.
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For that your right so an experienced user would know to look in bootloader to see if the security is set to S-off but I bet you htc just check to see if there is a padlock (I say this because when I got mine repaired the guy didn't even seem to know what cyanogen mod was so I doubt they know about blackrose) so technically your warranty is void but you can probably get away with a repair anyway. Though this is pretty irrelevant because the nexus one has a 1 year warranty and the nexus one was no longer sold by this time last year so everyone's warranties should be expired by now.
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For that your right so an experienced user would know to look in bootloader to see if the security is set to S-off but I bet you htc just check to see if there is a padlock (I say this because when I got mine repaired the guy didn't even seem to know what cyanogen mod was so I doubt they know about blackrose) so technically your warranty is void but you can probably get away with a repair anyway. Though this is pretty irrelevant because the nexus one has a 1 year warranty and the nexus one was no longer sold by this time last year so everyone's warranties should be expired by now.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: although unlocking your bootloader technically voids your warranty, based on users' experiences here and in other forums, HTC will still honor it, despite an unlocked bootloader.
By the way, some N1's have 2-year warranties, depending on where you bought it.
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Ya I've herd of a few cases that the bootloader was unlocked and they got repairs anyway but I've also herd of some where they didn't so a 50 - 50 chance isn't that good, so it's better to put the odds on your side. Now the fact that some N1's had a 2 year warranty that I had no idea so thanks for the info.
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I am an Android Developer, but so far I've avoided rooting my phone or trying custom kernels, but lately I get the feeling I could learn so much more by really getting behind the curtain so to speak. I keep reading that if you root the phone you may void your warranty and no longer get over the air updates.
I'm on AT&T an paid full price for my Nexus One. I also got the phone engraved so I'm wondering what value if any the warranty actually has. Is it worth mucking around with custom kernels on the Nexus one, or should I get a cheaper dev phone like the G1 ?
Looking forward to hearing advice from other developers and what you've learned versus the risks involved.
Oh, Do you still get OTA updates as well?
I'm interested in hearing from people who decided the warranty was or was not work the risk. Looks pretty easy from what I can see.
Thanks all.
Just root it without unlocking the bootloader and you're good to go
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Just root it without unlocking the bootloader and you're good to go
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^this
root is fun and even better you can keep your warranty
Does using the technique of not unlocking the bootloader also mean you can run custom ROMs and/or recoveries? Or just gain root access to the stock ROM?
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^this
root is fun and even better you can keep your warranty
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You CAN root your Nexus One without losing your warrenty.
I had my bootloader Unlocked, then i got a issue with mounting SD cards.
I sent the phone to HTC Repair center and just got it back today with the issues gone and Bootloader locked
Unlocking your Nexus One bootloader does void your warrenty with HTC, but if you experience hardware issues, they dont care if you unlocked your bootloader !!
By unlocking your Bootloader you can put whatever ROM on your phone you like, doesn't have to be stock
About the OTA's.
Yes you will get them if you run Stock ROM's.
You will not be able to install them however since you are not using a stock recovery image.
Wow, didn't know they didn't care about unlocked bootloader as long as your problem is in hardware. My GPS doesn't work at all and I'd like to send in my phone for repairs but the bootloader is unlocked.How long did it take for you to get your phone back?
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WebghostDK said:
You CAN root your Nexus One without losing your warrenty.
I had my bootloader Unlocked, then i got a issue with mounting SD cards.
I sent the phone to HTC Repair center and just got it back today with the issues gone and Bootloader locked
Unlocking your Nexus One bootloader does void your warrenty with HTC, but if you experience hardware issues, they dont care if you unlocked your bootloader !!
By unlocking your Bootloader you can put whatever ROM on your phone you like, doesn't have to be stock
About the OTA's.
Yes you will get them if you run Stock ROM's.
You will not be able to install them however since you are not using a stock recovery image.
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718141
they arent always so nice haha
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Wow, didn't know they didn't care about unlocked bootloader as long as your problem is in hardware. My GPS doesn't work at all and I'd like to send in my phone for repairs but the bootloader is unlocked.How long did it take for you to get your phone back?
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I sent my phone from Denmark to UK, it took 1½ week quite fast
Can you point me to a link with instructions on how to do this?
I've found a few videos and articles that say this can be done, but reading to the end they all say seem to be closed or say not to do it.
Is it still possible to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader? I've searched google, but keep coming up with dead ends.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
Most prob been asked a million times but I want to root my One but heard bad things about HTC and unlocking bootloaders. Does it 'fully' void my warranty for good and is there a way to root without touching the bootloader? (HTC site says 'May' but I've read fully by some people)
Also if I unlock my bootloader and then lock it (so it says relocked) does that still count as void?
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Most prob been asked a million times but I want to root my One but heard bad things about HTC and unlocking bootloaders. Does it 'fully' void my warranty for good and is there a way to root without touching the bootloader? (HTC site says 'May' but I've read fully by some people)
Also if I unlock my bootloader and then lock it (so it says relocked) does that still count as void?
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Yeah you'll lose DRM keys. I'll try to look for an exploit on this device once I get it. Will try to find a way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
I would advice against unlocking the bootloader,
A few months back i unlocked my HTC One X
Only done this i the phone was branded by the provider and i can't stand that.
Was not overclocking the cpu or any thing like that just wanted stock unbranded rom's
Any how unlocked it worked well for months then the screen came unresponsive just a thin strip half way down,
Phone still worked very well just need to turn it on its side to text.
Contacted HTC about this told them i unlocked the bootloader,
The minuet i said that you could tell i was not going to get any help,
Pointed out that the Dev site says
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty
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Asked if they could confirm what claims would be covered,
Was advised non.
Asked why the dev site said "not all claims" yet when trying to claim you get told "no claim"
Got told to take it up with the dev site.
Few emails later i am still waiting for an answer or for them to update the site.
Asked HTC how much it would cost to repair the phone and was told "you don't want to know"
So got a new HTC One and want to unlock it but no need now as this one is not branded so i am happy with it locked.
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I would advice against unlocking the bootloader,
A few months back i unlocked my HTC One X
Only done this i the phone was branded by the provider and i can't stand that.
Was not overclocking the cpu or any thing like that just wanted stock unbranded rom's
Any how unlocked it worked well for months then the screen came unresponsive just a thin strip half way down,
Phone still worked very well just need to turn it on its side to text.
Contacted HTC about this told them i unlocked the bootloader,
The minuet i said that you could tell i was not going to get any help,
Pointed out that the Dev site says
Asked if they could confirm what claims would be covered,
Was advised non.
Asked why the dev site said "not all claims" yet when trying to claim you get told "no claim"
Got told to take it up with the dev site.
Few emails later i am still waiting for an answer or for them to update the site.
Asked HTC how much it would cost to repair the phone and was told "you don't want to know"
So got a new HTC One and want to unlock it but no need now as this one is not branded so i am happy with it locked.
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First mistake = you told them u unlocked it.
Second mistake or lack of information available to you = you can easily relock and ruu your phone to get it back to stock software. Even if you s off there are ways to put it back to s on. Therefore they will not be able to tell if you have or have not unlocked the bootloader before.
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First mistake = you told them u unlocked it.
Second mistake or lack of information available to you = you can easily relock and ruu your phone to get it back to stock software. Even if you s off there are ways to put it back to s on. Therefore they will not be able to tell if you have or have not unlocked the bootloader before.
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Surely if it says relocked then they know?
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First mistake = you told them u unlocked it.
Second mistake or lack of information available to you = you can easily relock and ruu your phone to get it back to stock software. Even if you s off there are ways to put it back to s on. Therefore they will not be able to tell if you have or have not unlocked the bootloader before.
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I know you can relock it but if you check the Hboot it says "Relocked" and so they can tell if it has been unlocked before.
At least for the evo once you relock it says relock, but once you ruu it goes back to lock. Also on the evo forums we have a tool that customizes the hboot and u can make it say whatever u want. My phone is s off and unlocked yet it says locked and s on. So something like this can also work in case the ruu does not remove the relocked string. But I'm 100% positive it will. Furthermore simply locking and taking a ota will still display relocked.
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Why would you tell them you unlocked the bootloader LOL?!?!?
Seriously? HTC WILL repair hardware issues covered that don't involve software. Many, many people have used their warranty despite being bl unlocked.
And as some1 above pointed out, there are ways to relock so HTC wont even know you touched the phone.
I picked the HTC One up from AT&T a few days ago, today I unlocked the bootloader and want to go back to the locked bootlader. Anyways I went back to the locked and now my device says TAMPERED*. How do I get rid of this?
Also, My device is recognized as a CWS_001
I think its if you have a custom kernel.
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I picked the HTC One up from AT&T a few days ago, today I unlocked the bootloader and want to go back to the locked bootlader. Anyways I went back to the locked and now my device says TAMPERED*. How do I get rid of this?
Also, My device is recognized as a CWS_001
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You can't, at least not yet.
With S-On, the One will say TAMPERED when you unlock the bootloader and if I remember correct when you re-lock it, it'll say RE-LOCKED.
It's not something to worry about, it is a measure on HTCs end for warranty issues I presume.
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Wow, this could be a ****ing HUGE determining factor for people buying this phone.
I don't get it... Why are people so surprised? Besides, you know the risk of unlocking...
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If you actually read what you agreed to when you unlocked the bootloader, you would have already known that re-locking the bootloader doesn't restore warranty or erase the evidence that you had unlocked it.
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You can't, at least not yet.
With S-On, the One will say TAMPERED when you unlock the bootloader and if I remember correct when you re-lock it, it'll say RE-LOCKED.
It's not something to worry about, it is a measure on HTCs end for warranty issues I presume.
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Wouldn't it say
**TAMPERED**
RE-LOCKED
I would be surprised if they removed the tampered warning just by relocking.
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Wouldn't it say
**TAMPERED**
RE-LOCKED
I would be surprised if they removed the tampered warning just by relocking.
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Following posts around here seem to say that to be true. Your last sentence seems to contradict the above though?
Long813 said:
Following posts around here seem to say that to be true. Your last sentence seems to contradict the above though?
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I haven't (yet) unlocked my One, I was actually asking if anyone had relocked their device and could confirm that the "**TAMPERED**" goes away.
It makes no sense for HTC to do this, because someone could really mess up the ROM contents and then relock the device.
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I haven't (yet) unlocked my One, I was actually asking if anyone had relocked their device and could confirm that the "**TAMPERED**" goes away.
It makes no sense for HTC to do this, because someone could really mess up the ROM contents and then relock the device.
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Oh, you misread my post then.
It will still say TAMPERED. But, in addition too, it will say RELOCKED. I also recall reading past HTC devices where they were able to get the TAMPERED title to go away, but it would still say RELOCKED, so the end result is the same.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to go back to 100% factory, yet, until there is away to get S-off.
Viewing the XDA article though, unlocking/rooting your device won't void your warranty, and you can get a stock rom back on your device if you end up screwing something up.
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Oh, you misread my post then.
It will still say TAMPERED. But, in addition too, it will say RELOCKED. I also recall reading past HTC devices where they were able to get the TAMPERED title to go away, but it would still say RELOCKED, so the end result is the same.
Once the bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to go back to 100% factory, yet, until there is away to get S-off.
Viewing the XDA article though, unlocking/rooting your device won't void your warranty, and you can get a stock rom back on your device if you end up screwing something up.
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Yes, HTC is pretty good about repairing their hardware, unless they can confirm that what the user did was directly responsible for the failure. I haven't unlocked mine yet because I'm pretty satisfied with the stock ROM. I'm hoping for an update to get rid of the "menu button" issue though...
This is the first HTC phone I haven't unlocked and flashed. Yet.
It sua tempered when there's an unsigned kernel/recovery still on the phone... If you flash stock recovery/kernel and relock then the tampered will go away.
But s-off is what we need to rewrite those flags
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Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
They probably keep a record of who has requested an unlock token - but I doubt they can tell if you have used it or not..
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I just want to unlock my bootloader, but I hate that everything's wiped. With revone, nothing's wiped but then again I'm not sure if S-OFF's ever possible on 1.54. Then I'm stuck.
1.54 can't be s-off'd at the moment. Hopefully soon though
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redbull123 said:
1.54 can't be s-off'd at the moment. Hopefully soon though
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I know it can't. I hope it happens soon.
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I know it can't. I hope it happens soon.
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Ok, sorry - I thought you said your weren't sure..
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I'm not sure if S-OFF's even possible on 1.54.
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Theshawty said:
Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
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I don't know the situation in Norway but in Holland HTC sends the phones in to a 3rd party repair company (dynafix, fixes all types of phones, also does (warranty) repairs for eg samsung) for warranty repairs, I doubt they can or bother to look into the database and see if an unlock token has been requested. I think the technicians have been instructed to look at the bootloader status (unlocked/relocked) and been instructed to deny warranty in such cases as much as possible.... I send in my device for warranty s-off(with revone though never unlocked via htcdev), but with locked bootloader, and it was repaired under warranty
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Ok, sorry - I thought you said your weren't sure..
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Typo. I meant "ever".
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godutch said:
I don't know the situation in Norway but in Holland HTC sends the phones in to a 3rd party repair company (dynafix, fixes all types of phones, also does (warranty) repairs for eg samsung) for warranty repairs, I doubt they can or bother to look into the database and see if an unlock token has been requested. I think the technicians have been instructed to look at the bootloader status (unlocked/relocked) and been instructed to deny warranty in such cases as much as possible.... I send in my device for warranty s-off(with revone though never unlocked via htcdev), but with locked bootloader, and it was repaired under warranty
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I don't know the situation in Norway either. I don't live there.
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Theshawty said:
I don't know the situation in Norway either. I don't live there.
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sweden then... I just looked at your carrier
Theshawty said:
Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
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as long as its an Online process, and its done over the internet and requires your IMEI & SN i am %100 they keep record of your history.
unlike samsung which uses Odin app to unlock, Root, Flash stuff without going online
So long story short I don't want HTC to have any info about what I'm doing with my phone because I've had a major issue with that in the past and I want to unlock it, root it and get s-off still. So with having a completely stock m8, sunshine is the way to go for me? Sorry if someone already posted something like this.
You can try Firewater first since it's free.
Am also sure you need to be rooted to s-off which means you need to unlock the bootloader using htcdev.
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You can try Firewater first since it's free.
Am also sure you need to be rooted to s-off which means you need to unlock the bootloader using htcdev.
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I'm aware of that but I'm asking if sunshine is the only way to unlock without htcdev at all. Period.
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I'm aware of that but I'm asking if sunshine is the only way to unlock without htcdev at all. Period.
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One of the requirements to use sunshine is to be rooted
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One of the requirements to use sunshine is to be rooted
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Not anymore. Read the first paragraph of the OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Not anymore. Read the first paragraph of the OP:
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Ahh okay I see now so it gains root access by it's self so it is currently the only way to s-off with htcdev.
I know of no other method.
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Ahh okay I see now so it gains root access by it's self so it is currently the only way to s-off with htcdev.
I know of no other method.
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Alright so this answers my question then. Kinda wish I didn't have to pay $25 but the freedom having my phone and doing anything with it w/o htc knowing is worth it
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Alright so this answers my question then. Kinda wish I didn't have to pay $25 but the freedom having my phone and doing anything with it w/o htc knowing is worth it
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If Firewater had worked for me I would've been more than happy using HTC Dev with it. Just because you are requesting an unlock code from HTC does not prove that you actually used it so it's debatable whether using it or not has any real impact on their knowledge of your intended uses for your phone.
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If Firewater had worked for me I would've been more than happy using HTC Dev with it. Just because you are requesting an unlock code from HTC does not prove that you actually used it so it's debatable whether using it or not has any real impact on their knowledge of your intended uses for your phone.
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I personally had a horrible coincidence where my phone was not properly functioning from day 1 and I happened to have used htcdev so they had more than enough reason to blame me for the faulty components and charged me money to fix it since unlocking it voids the manufacturer warranty. So if you're fine with telling htc that you're unlocking your phone that's fine, I'm personally not going to do that again as long as I have an HTC device.
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I personally had a horrible coincidence where my phone was not properly functioning from day 1 and I happened to have used htcdev so they had more than enough reason to blame me for the faulty components and charged me money to fix it since unlocking it voids the manufacturer warranty. So if you're fine with telling htc that you're unlocking your phone that's fine, I'm personally not going to do that again as long as I have an HTC device.
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What state did you return the phone in? Was it still unlocked and rooted? S-Off? Did you attempt a faux-lock/s-on or anything like that?
To contrast some of the horror stories that people have regarding returning a HTC device for service, @Captain_Throwback has sent numerous devices to HTC and has never had an issue. His devices were rooted & S-off.