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In addition to my other issues, refer to thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43272 (ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred), I have noticed that battery meter on my 8125 flashed to the the imate aku2 rom, is always at 100%. I'm unsure whether this will effect charging since when I plug in the charger, the led turns green immediately and stops charging, and I have had the device turned on for 4 or 5 hours disabling all the power saving features, leaving the backlight on, turned on BT and wifi, and its still at 100%... either its a great battery, or somethings screwy.
small update.
after about 5 hours the battery meter started to drop quickly. Although this is good, the problem that comes up for the first 5 hours, you cannot charge the device as it thinks the battery is full.
Am I the only one experiencing this?
same here.... after 24 hours battery meter droped from 100 to 94
bafore it was 90 after 24 hours
maybe they improved something.. thats why it does not go so fast as before
I think it is the fact that the new rom seems to be much better with power consumption. I am getting almost a 50% gain between charges due to my pattern of usage!!! Very happy!
I'm more then happy at the battery improvement, what I am not happy about is that if this is a bug (granted there is improvement), the problem becomes when charging the phone, so I have it for 12 hours, its still showing 100%, I have an offsite meeting the next day, and would not be able to charge the phone for the entire day, the battery will start to drop very fast since the phone thought it was fully charged, when it really was not... I'm confusing myself here, but I think you understand what I am saying.
Also, while my battery was at 84%, I did a soft reset, when the phone came back up, it showed 100% battery and refused to charge... this is a problem.
You might want to inquire about a replacement device or battery - in case it's not the sotware.
My laptop has this issue. It's always been on external power and somehow that's weirded out the control circuit telling the machine how full the battery is. It will read 100%, but it's actually at 75%. Then if I disconnect it, it will go down to 5% in 8 minutes. However, it will happily run for 3 hours+ on that last 5%. Similarly, if I hook it back up to the charger, it goes to 99% (leaving the battery indicator light amber) in another 8 minutes. Takes many hours more for it to get back to 100% (making the battery indicator light blue).
With any luck the control circuit will be in the battery (I believe it is), and the easiest way to check is to exchange your battery for a temporary new one and see if the problem goes away.
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I think it is the fact that the new rom seems to be much better with power consumption. I am getting almost a 50% gain between charges due to my pattern of usage!!! Very happy!
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Agreed.
If you think your battery is stuck - just do this little test.
Turn on Bluetooth, WiFi, make a GPRS connection, and set back light at 100% and don't let them turn off or let the unit power off. The battery should drain pretty quickly in this senario.
I thought mine was stuck, but it dropped 5% in less than 10 min in this mode.
FYI,
JB
I'm not so sure its the battery.. another issue that I just noticed, is taht even though the backlight is turning off, the screen itself is not turning off after the designated time I set...... this is rather bothersome as if I forgot to manually turn off the screen.. it remains on constantly.
Even with my original Qtek 9100 EN ROM, the screen doesn't turn off - only backlight. If you want the screen to be off, you'd need to go to Standby, or use a third party utility to turn the screen entirely off.
Although lithium batteries are best kept at a full charge, they should be periodically drained to recalibrate the fuel gauge.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
I was also having this problem but after about 2 days use it began to go down. My G3 device seemed to hang at 100% and drop quickly after it hits 25%. I believe this must be a hardware issue as I now have a G4 (setup identically to the G3) and it does not have this issue.
i am having the same issue but i believe it the battery because my phone 8 months old and if you read the battery thread it has all the same issues your having
I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
I don't know what others are telling you about conditioning a LiIon battery but you don't have to. LiIon batteries don't suffer from what NiCad do. Some do suggest wearing the battery down to nil and then charging it up again. However, this is pretty bad for the battery and should not be done more than once every 30 cycles. With every LiIon battery I've ever owned I've either trickle charged it or charged it when it wasn't too low and they've all lasted over 3 years. I've never conditioned one.
Anyway, my advice to you is to see how long your battery lasts in standby. Mine could probably last 3 days or more if I don't bother it too much (with sync, wifi and all that good stuff). I find the worst contender for battery drain is the display. The only problem I see with your stats there is that I've played Asphalt5 for around an hour and a half which is quite heavy on juice and it only drains roughly 10%-15%. Then again you're browsing the web so maybe probably worse.
Oh, and when charging your phone, don't use the USB hooked up to a computer as it doesn't stop charging when it's full. Use the wall charger to charge.
no need to worry more
just get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
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I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
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I found that charging it whenever it was convenient instead of when it was low would result in a charge that lasted ~24 hours.
I've noticed significant increase in battery life since I started waiting for the 15% charge warning, plugging it in till it was full and then unplugging it. I get 2-3 days of use this way.
I also set my email to only sync between 6 AM and 11 PM. I believe this helps a lot as well.
since we are about this topic, check this out
How to spot fake battery vs. OEM battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7953322
so if I'm listening to music during the day at work should I have my phone plugged into the wall charger or just let the battery run down?
Last night I took the charger off at midnight when it was full and when I woke up it had only dropped 5%. After reading my emails quickly it was at 93%.
it works fine either way
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769208
I find leaving the brightness on automatic uses up loads of battery. Setting it to lowest seems to make the phone last 24hrs+
I also found that having beautiful widgets clock/weather installed used up a lot of battery for some reason.
I don't use weather because it has to sync every so often to update it which to me is a waste...I'll just look outside. I also leave brightness on the lowest setting wherever I am as the screen is already very bright (why waste battery?).
My experiences with my SGS have taught me to be conservative with its battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, you eat power like crazy. The best bet is to just top her off whenever the need arises. Personally, I have found that I'm fine just topping her off in the car when I'm driving, so that I start my work day at high 90's, and especially once I've got my morning browsing out of the way, I don't eat a big chunk of battery at any other time.
But yes, if you find you are running low, you can happily just take a half hour to charge from a USB port to give you an extra boost. Alternatively, spare batteries and so forth do the same thing, although it can be annoying if you don't have a charger that will do the phone and a spare battery at once.
im experimenting with apndroid now to turn of 3g then i dont specifacly need it. It comes with an on/off widget. Looks promising so far. 40% at 2300 hour and then i have used wifi a bit, played angry birds and talked for about 2 hours in total.
Alright, so the biggest complain to this phone is the battery life as we all know. Trying everything to stabilize the battery life, i have used many apps but no luck. One thing I have noted after trying to fix the battery with a calibrator (root required), I read my phone using 4.1V. This is strange because for a simple Watt calculation, you do w= amps x voltage. If the battery can only manage 1.5 x 3.7 or 5.55 Watts and my phone specifically is taking about 1.5 x 4.1 or 6.15 Watts, this means faster battery drain.
What I want to know if there is some sort of voltage control app or modification to the power management for the phone to remain within the V3.7 specified by the battery.
I will also say that randomly my phone decided to run no more than V3.7 on Feb 14 and this is what happened. I unplugged at 7:22 a.m and by the time 9:30 a.m Came, I was at 70%, but then my phone lasted until 6:15 p.m or 18:15 after that. And noted that i did regular texts (sent and received about 200) had a 15 minute phone call and about 1 hour and 15 minutes of bluetooth music playback (I use Bluetooth headsets **Jaybird SB2**) and some internet usage. Not 12 hours but better than the 4 hours most of us get.
What are your thoughts as well?
Juice Defender and/or Gingerbread
I use both gingerbread 2.3.5 and juice defender, still no luck. Just going to buy 3 batteries.
I wiped my internal SD and factory reset my phone, that did wonders. If you have GB and Juice Defender and your still having poor battery life there must be a problem that hopefully should be fixed with a clean slate, unless you have unrealistic expectations out of your battery.
I'll try what you have done and then ill let you know. But my battery is crazy bad. how many hours do you get? the percent drop is insane. its a little frustrating because my mind is always on battery percentage and my eyes are stuck to the notification bar looking at the battery instead of "enjoying" the phone.
I charge my battery every day.
I'm running 20C with Andida's 1980mah battery.
how often do you use it during the day? i have read that andida's 1980 only gives an extra hour
I used to get 18 or more with froyo and juice defender. Now I get similar on GB without Juice Defender that's with mild use like calls, texts, web surf. As soon as I fire up a game especially 3D ones ill charge immediately after just to be safe.
I play GTA 3 about an hour-two every day,and my wi-fi is never off
I flashed the Lestatious Biohazard Kitchen Rom after flashing the GB 21a baseband and my battery life is better than it's ever been.
buy a better battery
i brought an hyperion battery from ebay.... sure the battery is a little over double the thickness of a typical battery (it comes with a new back cover too) but the life of it is amazing!! i now can leave the phone (fully charged) for 6-8 hours while sleeping and wake up with the phone @ 97% and that's on the default rom.... best $18 ever spent
What is the schedule for? I want to use this to preserve my battery but what should i set this to? If i set it from 10pm to 7am is that all slow charging or fast charging. It says it dynamically adjusts battery charging but im super confused on it.
The charging is supposed to be fast until 80% or so and then trickle charge till 100%. However there is a bug in this module, it doesn't charge according to the set schedule. I had enabled it from midnight to 7 am but found the phone to be completely charged at 5.30am.
I think it's a good feature that all smartphones should have. The benefits of it is your battery will not degrade faster. So in layman terms your battery charges slowly instead of charging the phone in 2-3 hours long from (0 to 100%) which is the default state. Instead It will take longer if the schedule is long. "now will it charge exactly for as long as the schedule you set?, clearly not but it will nevertheless charge slowly which is the point".
I have set the timings such that I don't ever charge it more than 80% (that is more than enough juice + longer battery life maybe) since I am staying at Home always with Work From Home facility, and as there is no need for me to go out.
Battery Care Schedule: 12:00 PM - 11.59 AM
What this means is a full 24 hours, meaning that I can plug at any time of the day and still trick the device to only fast charge till 80% almost everytime. I usually don't put it to charging at night, but if I do, even then I am able to get i charged upto 80% max and the rest is left up to trickle charge.
For example. I usually sleep at 22:00 And i wake up at 07:00. Set it to 22:00 to 07:00. You will have 100% battery when youre awake. Doesnt matter if it's slow or fast charging. But its best you use the charger which came with the phone. That's about it.
H, since I updated from miui 10 to miui 11 and even now that I have miui 12 I have noticed that the battery doesn't last as long as before. I state that since I purchased the phone (July 2019) I have always charged the battery in the best way trying to never go below 20% and trying not to go beyond 80% so I don't think a battery can lose more than 30% of its real capacity in less than a year of life. Starting to investigate I found that the battery does not charge at its real capacity i.e. 3300 mAh but at around 2200/2300 mAh. To verify all this I have carried out several tests and the easiest way to verify it is to look at the battery characteristics through the AIDA64 app (screenshot below). From these tests it seems that the device limits the real battery capacity by not allowing it to be charged to its maximum capacity. A reply to what I wrote can be found by looking at some system files that are located in /sys/class/power_supply/battery. In particular, looking at the file called charge_full (screenshot below) you can see how the value of the file is much lower than the real battery capacity. I hope someone more competent than I can understand how to solve this hateful problem and I also invite you to check the value to try to better understand the cause of this problem.
I'm using miuimix 12.0.2 stable and the capacity is not 3300, either.
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And sorry i don't know how to post a picture, mine is 2943.
I know that batteries won't be forever and are always decreasing during the year but I think Xiaomi do a good job. I have some devices from 4 years ago and they reduced their batteries just a little. In the case of Mi 9 I have it since March 2019 and my battery still being the same. I charge it from 10-25% to 100% just some times I charge it until 80-90%, maybe every month I let it to 0% I wait for a while and charge it again to 100%.
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From the photo you posted it doesn't seem that your battery is fully charged .. we have done other research and we have discovered that most likely Xiaomi has inserted in the kernel a sort of programmed obsolescence on the battery.
Can you disclose some of the research you done on the kernel it seems interesting. I have checked with Aida64 my battery before and it never charges to 3300 even if you leave the phone plugged in the value will keep increasing but once you plug it out it drops...still getting about 5 hrs sot so not bad...I wonder if you change that value in the full charger screen you posted what will happen?
"From these tests it seems that the device limits the real battery capacity by not allowing it to be charged to its maximum capacity. "
Actually it's better for battery life longterm to keep the device in the middle - never 0, never 100
I've certainly lost no battery life in the year + I've had the Mi 9
You are doing a good job of using the phone in the 20 to 80% range. But do you charge it at the lowest possible temperature? Temperature is a battery's worst enemy. Wireless charging is a joke. It's a glued heater in the battery.
I for instance, almost all the times charge it in front a mini fan. With this I can charge it 5ÂșC below normal temp charge.
And like @cezikos said, use quickcharge only on emergencies. Use at max a 1.5Amps charger. Quick charge is a marketing thing. The chemistry of the batteries are almost the same in this 10 years.
Mi mi9 have one year and the battery is 100%.
The important thing that you should precise is a type of charger that you are using. Do you use Quick Charge? If Yes, then battery capacity will be dramatically degrated. I use 5V 0.5-1.5A charger, it depends how fast I need to charge the Phone.
The next thing is a battery temperature, not Only while charging the Phone but also when you are using it. I`m using CPU Monitor and it's overlay to see the battery temp, you can also configure alerts when battery is starting to overheat.
Heavy Gaming decreases the life of the battery, there are a lot of variables that you have to cobsider, not only "programmed obsolescence"
I had the same problem. Hopefully the battery could make 3 hours of screen, the strange thing was that suddenly it began to last very little, and I was with that problem for a couple of weeks, so I decided to calibrate the battery hoping to have some results and now the battery lasted again approximately 7 hours of screen. Try to make the battery run out from 100% to 0%. The system will not let you start because it calculates that it has no battery, so what I did was leave it in recovery mode and with the screen always active, until it turns off completely, then with a 5V 1A charger. With the phone turned off, charge it until it reaches 100%. I did it three times and the battery was back to the way it was before. You could try to do the same and I hope you can solve that problem.
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I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
Battery on my Mi9 (mildly used in one year) lost 500 mAh.
Confirmed, with this trick, in doing it ONE time, I have the phone running well again, more than 8h screen on.
0.5 discharge in sleep.
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onolox said:
I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
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Thanks! I just don't know how to clean the battery status...
You will need root.
Then are several apps that can do it. Like l speed or adiutor.
And now again confirming, in one month the phone is completely lost regarding battery again, just 3h SOT from 80 to 20. There's some pretty **** up code regarding battery in xiaomi android.
I have no problems at all using it since release.
newest xiaomi eu.
I also have problems with battery drain...
Hello guys, just want to share with you a little trick that just helped me get better SoT. First of all, I just want to mention that I'm on the newest xiaomi.eu rom (20.8.13) and that AccuBattery is showing that my battery is at 2500mAh estimated capacity. (That might be different in reality, because it's only after one charging, so don't believe it that much). Lately I noticed a significant drain while the phone was idle (screen turned off). It was draining like 1-2% every hour and I could barely get over 5h SoT. So I investigated a little bit, and found a solution on reddit. The thing was that I had many apps on autostart. If you want to check them and turn it off then open Settings > type 'autostart' in the search bar > open it > 3 dots > show system apps > turn off every unnecessary app that you think don't need that option. I turned off every app, except: Gmail, GPay, Google Photos, Clock, Calendar, Bank app, Weather app and the app called 'safety system addon' - it might be called different because I'm not on english language on my phone. I left them on just in case to have notifications/synchronization, though i don't know if it's necessary. After that there was almost 0% idle drain over the day. Now I'm on 5h4m SoT and still have 25% of battery left. The result might be even better, cause I did this trick just today while my phone was on 90-85%.
Give it guys a try, hope it will improve your daily experience with Mi 9.
P.S. Let me know guys If I could turn off the before mentioned apps and still get notifications and sync from them.
Mine reports 2800mah, debloated with Szaki tool all autostart apps disabled also did factory reset after miui12 update.
Really sad how bad miui12 has turned for me. Im having way worse battery life compared to miui11 the idle is mostly the same its just the battery doesn't last as it used to last with miui11.
onolox said:
I tested, I put the phone to play videos until it turned off. In 1% I cleared battery stats.
Then plugged the charger and entered the TWRP and unplugged. Put the backlight to maximum, and the phone stayed on more than an hour!
Then I plugged the charger 1.5A and let it charge to max.
It worked, now the phone has a steady discharge, not discharge 100% to 80 in an hour.
I will do this procedure from time to time. not the best for the battery, but is needed in mi9...
It's an absurd that this problem exists in 2020, my galaxy S2 don't have such harsh problems with something so simple and basic like battery management!
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I can confirm this. AIDA64 said my battery was at 2550mah capacity when fully charged. I followed this procedure and now after being fully charged, it says 3125 mah, which is much better.
I'm curious about the screen on time now. Me happy. Thanks!