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Hero ROMs that slows down after 1 or 2 days of normal use

Hello team:
I have tried several Hero ROMs, and some of them are pretty fast once installed and even when you have installed 30 or 40 apps, but for some strange reasons, after 2 or 3 days of normal use, all of them become too slow...
I have noticed this annoying effect on MLGIN 3.2, Maxisma Sapphire 2.0.1 and MgthyMax 1.9.1
Anyone know the cause of this behaviour? any way to fix this?
I´m currently running MghtyMax with a Swap partition of 192 Mg (Class 2 8GB SD card, 60 Swappiness)
Many thanks
Rgds

iamarock said:
Hello team:
I have tried several Hero ROMs, and some of them are pretty fast once installed and even when you have installed 30 or 40 apps, but for some strange reasons, after 2 or 3 days of normal use, all of them become too slow...
I have noticed this annoying effect on MLGIN 3.2, Maxisma Sapphire 2.0.1 and MgthyMax 1.9.1
Anyone know the cause of this behaviour? any way to fix this?
I´m currently running MghtyMax with a Swap partition of 192 Mg (Class 2 8GB SD card, 60 Swappiness)
Many thanks
Rgds
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how do you set the swappiness? I have mine 128 swap 512 ext4 and its class 6

Hero Roms are supposed to be used with Class 6 but I've been using Class 2.
I used ext3 (since not all ROMs support ext4 for some reason) - 512 mb, 96 swap, and rest fat32.
This is what I do to keep Hero Roms fast
1) Install the apps that you use a lot or need. You will be surprised at all the apps that you never used. I have about 20-25 apps installed in MLIGN 3.2B
2)Get the app CacheMate (the one with the trashcan icon) and use that to clear cache. This will speed up the phone a lot.
3)Once you boot up your phone go through all the homescreens and let everything load up (like widgets) and then go through and open up the Sense UI apps (stock apps that came with the ROM) and let them load. Go through all the options.
4)If things let you auto rotate, let them auto rotate for a while (like for camera, albums, browser, mail clients, etc) I let them auto rotate after I boot up the Hero Rom and the Rom gets faster.
5)Over clock to 528 min and max when the screen is off and 328 min and max when the screen is off. I use SetCPU and this helps with performance when using the phone and saves battery when the phone is in sleep mode.
6)If things start slowing down, reflash the ROM without wiping (like I flash MLIGN 3.2B and Deport 1.0 if the ROM starts slowing down and it speeds things back up)

AndroidNoobie said:
Hero Roms are supposed to be used with Class 6 but I've been using Class 2.
I used ext3 (since not all ROMs support ext4 for some reason) - 512 mb, 96 swap, and rest fat32.
This is what I do to keep Hero Roms fast
1) Install the apps that you use a lot or need. You will be surprised at all the apps that you never used. I have about 20-25 apps installed in MLIGN 3.2B
2)Get the app CacheMate (the one with the trashcan icon) and use that to clear cache. This will speed up the phone a lot.
3)Once you boot up your phone go through all the homescreens and let everything load up (like widgets) and then go through and open up the Sense UI apps (stock apps that came with the ROM) and let them load. Go through all the options.
4)If things let you auto rotate, let them auto rotate for a while (like for camera, albums, browser, mail clients, etc) I let them auto rotate after I boot up the Hero Rom and the Rom gets faster.
5)Over clock to 528 min and max when the screen is off and 328 min and max when the screen is off. I use SetCPU and this helps with performance when using the phone and saves battery when the phone is in sleep mode.
6)If things start slowing down, reflash the ROM without wiping (like I flash MLIGN 3.2B and Deport 1.0 if the ROM starts slowing down and it speeds things back up)
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Many thanks for your reply, AndroidNoobie, very helpful
I will follow each one of your steps!!
Rgds

AndroidNoobie said:
Hero Roms are supposed to be used with Class 6 but I've been using Class 2.
I used ext3 (since not all ROMs support ext4 for some reason) - 512 mb, 96 swap, and rest fat32.
This is what I do to keep Hero Roms fast
1) Install the apps that you use a lot or need. You will be surprised at all the apps that you never used. I have about 20-25 apps installed in MLIGN 3.2B
2)Get the app CacheMate (the one with the trashcan icon) and use that to clear cache. This will speed up the phone a lot.
3)Once you boot up your phone go through all the homescreens and let everything load up (like widgets) and then go through and open up the Sense UI apps (stock apps that came with the ROM) and let them load. Go through all the options.
4)If things let you auto rotate, let them auto rotate for a while (like for camera, albums, browser, mail clients, etc) I let them auto rotate after I boot up the Hero Rom and the Rom gets faster.
5)Over clock to 528 min and max when the screen is off and 328 min and max when the screen is off. I use SetCPU and this helps with performance when using the phone and saves battery when the phone is in sleep mode.
6)If things start slowing down, reflash the ROM without wiping (like I flash MLIGN 3.2B and Deport 1.0 if the ROM starts slowing down and it speeds things back up)
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I'm going to try that out too. What are the default min and max settings? Also, how low can I go when the screen is off?

Apps seem to open themselve sin the background when they have no services or function

As topic.
5.0.6 via kang
Just did a full restart so I can get the full picture, this is what is open, sorted into categories of stuff which does have services (which im happy with), those with services (which i think ive dissabled and shouldnt be there), those with no services which shouldnt be there:
services and happy:
HTC IME mod
live wallpapers
email
calendar
auto memory manager
news and weather
google mail
music
setcpu
3g watchdog
juice defender + plotter
beautiful widgets
engaget
helixlauncher
taskiller [what im looking at it with]
services and not happy:
clock
bluetooth share
cm updater (ive turned it to manual only)
bluetooth file transfer
finance (ive told it NOT to update, i dont use it really)
camera (does it need to sit open in the background?)
notes
klaxon
cachemate
appbrain market sync
mp3 store
weatherbug elite
no service and dont want:
shopsavy
police stream
Does anyone know of any program i can use to directly stop these unwanted apps to stop running every time, or any individual information on the programs?
cheers

Why do you not want them preloaded?

The main reason im being such a memory whore is because my launcher lags like crazy under 70-80mb. I have 250ish apps, and see many people with a similar setup demonstrating on youtube, and theirs is instantly responsive, as is mine >120mb free. If I leave all these apps etc free, i end up on ~40mb which makes my old nokia 6300 looks like flash gordon compared to my launcher :/

Re: Apps seem to open themselve sin the background when they
Android preloads apps into its memory for fast load times.
Just because an app is loaded does not mean it is using any resources. They're usually just sitting there idle. Android also frees up memory as needed.
That said, I've seen apps that can control what apps you never want preloaded. Search around on the market.
Looks like the slowdowns from a lack of ram still exist. I hope froyo will help with this. This problem makes the lower end android phones run slow.
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Redraws... Tried everything !

Hi guys, I got my milestone for 2-3 weeks now. At first I didn't have redraws but I just can't escape them now
Using launcher pro or adw doesn't change anyhing.
I tried to check the stay in memory thing but it still get killed and it redraws.
My main concern is for sms and calls. During the redraw I don't get notifications and phone function is too slow to come.
I never had this problem with my hero...
I overclocked to 1ghz 60 fev but it's the same with and without.
My rom is the lastest cyanogenmod 6.1
I tried changing local.prop with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 but it sounded like Home wasn't dying but messaging was.
I have exactly 132 applications.
Homes and vital apps like astro or setcpu etc ... are in internal memory.
I tried changing the VM size to 32 by using cyanogenmod (its 32 by default)
and by openrecovery but it doesnt change anything.
I tried to uninstall adw leaving only launcher pro but is was the same.
Maybe I am missing some information ?
It's just awful, just checking my messages with handcent results with a redraw. (it isn't occuring now, maybe is it because widgets are not put back?)
Does anybody have a solution?
I just wiped my data in order to check with a brand new partition but it's the same.
Maybe there is a magic combinaison with the option to keep home in ram of cyanogenmod and the one of the homes ?
I don't know but I just can't operate my milestone normally.
If anybody has an idea or whatever.. just help me
maybe it's cuz I have 7 screens ? Oh come on I live that way for a long time when I used sense ^^

Had the problem before.
First thing I did was setting LP memory usage settings well: cache at light & light preset. +clear caches on exit. 'Keep in memory' in LP is checked.
in CM performace settings I have only 'lock home in memory' checked. VM heap size is deault (32)
ADW uninstalled. Did you check if you have any useless processes running in background?

yup Im using advanced task killer.
I just tried the command again and it seems to work.
I will test more ...
Thank's

Bump, I managed to stop redraws by setting memory usage preset to moderate, not checking the prevent force-closes . I just checked the keep in memory in the general section.
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 is ON but without the "keep in memory" messages die, and same for phone
I don't have any more redraws but I can't play some games like angry birds !!
Games eating too much memory just can't manage to load completly.
Does anybody here manages to load angry bird or intense eating game with no redraws ??
I mean if I don't check the keep in memory sending a message or calling someone redraws ... It's unbearable.
BTW, I activated the
Are 7 screens too much for this phone .
Damn my hero just worked way better wtf !!!
Any idea guys ?
:'(
If anybody have 7 screens or less and doesn't have any redraw please tell me :'(

bu-bump anyone guys ?

how much free memory is it displayed in running services? Launcherpro used to redraw on me like 65000 times a minute. you just have to remove all those services by uninstalling the crap out of your phone and leaving some free memory and space on internal storage, and you should have less redraws.
I believe these are problems with the leaked 2.2.1 kernel because the phone was behaving better on eclair

[Q] app storage limitation data

UPDATE:
If you want to fix your low space problem on the captivate, LOOK here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541942
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Is there an ics rom that allows all 2 gb of /data to be used for apps? It seems most of them I've tried have the same limit from recent cm7 night lies about 350 mb, before google framework starts crashing (gummy) or I get a low space warning (nostalgia).

I believe this is just something we will have to live with on ICS with our phones.

prbassplayer said:
I believe this is just something we will have to live with on ICS with our phones.
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So here is something interesting I'm currently running AOKP m28, with ~487 Mb of apps installed.
No low space warning and no framework crashes.

scythekain said:
So here is something interesting I'm currently running AOKP m28, with ~487 Mb of apps installed.
No low space warning and no framework crashes.
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I'm running AOKP Build 28, I have ~529mb of apps installed and I am getting the warning.
However, I haven't had any framework crashes. Also, I was able to successful restart my phone.

Hangampalli said:
I'm running AOKP Build 28, I have ~529mb of apps installed and I am getting the warning.
However, I haven't had any framework crashes. Also, I was able to successful restart my phone.
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Yeah, I started to get the low space warning when hitting the ~ 500 MB line as well.
Here's what I've found, two types of AOSP/CyanogenMod based Roms for Cappy:
1) Gives low space warning (and as long as you don't cross that threshold) does not produce framework crashes.
2) Does not give low space warning, but produces massive framework crashes.
The problem (as I've learned from CyanogenMod forums) is the datadata partition. CM7.1 used the datadata partition for apps, and did not have the low space warning. This meant whenever you approached the 172 MB limit of datadata you ran into spectacular framework crashes.
However around nightly 11162011 they changed that, and introduced the "low space warning". This allowed about ~300 MB of apps to be installed, before datadata complained.
I bet if you look at your datadata* (I looked at mine just now) it's pretty close to full. Mine currently only has 17 MB free. I notice when I'm browsing the web with Maxthon with about 5 tabs open I get the low space warning.
I'm wondering now though if this is a relic of linking left in my system folder. Next flash I'm going to format my /system before flash and see if this behavior changes.
*To check your datadata size open a terminal (I like Android Terminal Emulator) and type "df".

You can remove the symlink betwen /datadata and /data (I think) but it will most likely make your phone anywhere from a tad slower to unusable slow. Like I said its just a limitation from our phones, at least for now.

prbassplayer said:
You can remove the symlink betwen /datadata and /data (I think) but it will most likely make your phone anywhere from a tad slower to unusable slow. Like I said its just a limitation from our phones, at least for now.
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I figured this was what is happening. Has someone tried this and confirmed the performance hit?

I did way back when on ICSSGS 2.x and 3.x Made my phone almost unable, which means my nand isn't in good shape. But the result varies a lot so no way on telling.
I know they had a zip but doubt it will work on any other rom.
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So last night I was performing some benchmarks after formatting system. What I found was interesting to say the least. CNA was no longer laggy. Aokp isn't as fast as it felt.
Anyways, I stuck with dark knight and currently have 560 mb installed with no low space warnings and no framework crashes.
Update:
So after installing >500 mb of apps I'm still getting low space warnings with dark knight. I ran df in my terminal and have determined that it happened when the datadata partition is at oR below 15 megs free. Wierd thing though, I was at 28 mb free, reboot come back up with 6 mb free? Moved 70 mb of apps to USB storage, and it moved up to 26 mb free on datadata.

scythekain said:
So last night I was performing some benchmarks after formatting system. What I found was interesting to say the least. CNA was no longer laggy. Aokp isn't as fast as it felt.
Anyways, I stuck with dark knight and currently have 560 mb installed with no low space warnings and no framework crashes.
Update:
So after installing >500 mb of apps I'm still getting low space warnings with dark knight. I ran df in my terminal and have determined that it happened when the datadata partition is at oR below 15 megs free. Wierd thing though, I was at 28 mb free, reboot come back up with 6 mb free? Moved 70 mb of apps to USB storage, and it moved up to 26 mb free on datadata.
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I think right now, moving apps to SD card is the only real solution. I think the limit is near ~375ish?
So far, I've only moved games and a video player. Hopefully, they'll still work fine.
I've had this for about 2 days now, and it seems to be working. I did start having framework crashes at the end of monday, but the phone surprisingly restarted. I'm not sure how that happened (maybe the AKOP rom is stronger than I thought). I did try and move some of the bigger app's to the SD card while the phone was crashing....I thought it didn't go through, but maybe it did.
So in summary, move apps to SD card when warning pops up. And if phone starts crashing, still try to move apps to SD card, restart and hope it works?
PS...Is anyone running the nostalgia ROM? I don't think that ROM has this problem. The developer said he had something like 250 apps installed. I'm not using it currently b/c I didn't like some of the theme-ing such as that in the people app. However, the developer recently told me that I could modify the zip package with an unskinned people app. If this AKOP rom fails me, I'll go to that and update results.

Fix for low space problem on Galaxy S (Fascinate/Captivate/Vibrant)
Hangampalli said:
I think right now, moving apps to SD card is the only real solution. I think the limit is near ~375ish?
So far, I've only moved games and a video player. Hopefully, they'll still work fine.
I've had this for about 2 days now, and it seems to be working. I did start having framework crashes at the end of monday, but the phone surprisingly restarted. I'm not sure how that happened (maybe the AKOP rom is stronger than I thought). I did try and move some of the bigger app's to the SD card while the phone was crashing....I thought it didn't go through, but maybe it did.
So in summary, move apps to SD card when warning pops up. And if phone starts crashing, still try to move apps to SD card, restart and hope it works?
PS...Is anyone running the nostalgia ROM? I don't think that ROM has this problem. The developer said he had something like 250 apps installed. I'm not using it currently b/c I didn't like some of the theme-ing such as that in the people app. However, the developer recently told me that I could modify the zip package with an unskinned people app. If this AKOP rom fails me, I'll go to that and update results.
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I've run Nostalgia as well, it's just more Samsung Bloat (From Doc's) on top of the AOKP core.
So it will give you the low space warning when datadata fills up, but largely like AOKP as long as you deal with it (Dark Knight as well) the system is rock solid.
HOWEVER there is good news for us:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541942
The script above SHOULD help us use more of our app storage space, while still providing the awesome speed that custom roms are known for.

scythekain said:
I've run Nostalgia as well, it's just more Samsung Bloat (From Doc's) on top of the AOKP core.
So it will give you the low space warning when datadata fills up, but largely like AOKP as long as you deal with it (Dark Knight as well) the system is rock solid.
HOWEVER there is good news for us:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541942
The script above SHOULD help us use more of our app storage space, while still providing the awesome speed that custom roms are known for.
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So after a month of running the "datadata" fix:
I have about 700 MB of apps installed with no framework crashes, no low space warnings (AOKP B32 / Glitch).
Datadata consistently has about 80 MB available. at it's current rate of increase when installing new apps, it's possible this configuration would allow the complete 2 GB usage of the data partition.

[HELP] I lose my space on phone!

Guys, I don't know what's going on but after using any ROM for a couple of weeks (sometimes months) something happens and I phone keep downloading something from internet I believe and I have ~100 kb space left on phone. It keeps forcing me to turn programs off (that notification on middle of screen) and... I can't even receive calls from others becuase of phoe.app - force close.
Don't really know how to deal with it, I can't even boot my phone though USB because of ROM I'm actually using The Ultimatum V.4.0.
My programs:
- 9gag
- Adobe Reader
- App Cache Cleaner
- ColorNote
- Gazeta.pl (news from my country)
- Gmail
- Last.fm
- Messenger
- mobileMPK (also poland only app for means of tranposrt schedule)
- Opera mini
- Weather app
- SnapSave
- Youtube
That's my apps, rest are installed with that Ultimatum ROM.
I'm using it for a long time and nothing happens but then THIS apperas. I don't have any strenght to deal with it anymore, usually I need to reboot my phone X times until I have ~15 MB space again and I don't wanna it to be only solution.
Anybody experienced this before?
btw. It happens with other ROMs too.
Looking forward for solutions.
Have nice day!

mysiak94 said:
Guys, I don't know what's going on but after using any ROM for a couple of weeks (sometimes months) something happens and I phone keep downloading something from internet I believe and I have ~100 kb space left on phone. It keeps forcing me to turn programs off (that notification on middle of screen) and... I can't even receive calls from others becuase of phoe.app - force close.
Don't really know how to deal with it, I can't even boot my phone though USB because of ROM I'm actually using The Ultimatum V.4.0.
My programs:
- 9gag
- Adobe Reader
- App Cache Cleaner
- ColorNote
- Gazeta.pl (news from my country)
- Gmail
- Last.fm
- Messenger
- mobileMPK (also poland only app for means of tranposrt schedule)
- Opera mini
- Weather app
- SnapSave
- Youtube
That's my apps, rest are installed with that Ultimatum ROM.
I'm using it for a long time and nothing happens but then THIS apperas. I don't have any strenght to deal with it anymore, usually I need to reboot my phone X times until I have ~15 MB space again and I don't wanna it to be only solution.
Anybody experienced this before?
btw. It happens with other ROMs too.
Looking forward for solutions.
Have nice day!
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All you have to do is increase you internal memory using scripts. You can try CronMod Script. Just create a ext partition on your SD Card and you are good to go. Make sure to backup the SD Card before you create the ext partition. To create an ext partition on your SD Card, go to CWM> Advanced> Partition SD Card> Size (max 1GB, anymore and system will lag)> Swap (0 MB) wait for it to say "Partitioning Done!". Now just flash CronMod Int2Ext.zip as usual by mounting /data from CWM. Here is the link,
CronMod-INT2EXT
Follow the instruction in the thread. Download Int2Ext as it is much more stable that others. Hope I Helped

mysiak94 said:
Guys, I don't know what's going on but after using any ROM for a couple of weeks (sometimes months) something happens and I phone keep downloading something from internet I believe and I have ~100 kb space left on phone. It keeps forcing me to turn programs off (that notification on middle of screen) and... I can't even receive calls from others becuase of phoe.app - force close.
Don't really know how to deal with it, I can't even boot my phone though USB because of ROM I'm actually using The Ultimatum V.4.0.
My programs:
- 9gag
- Adobe Reader
- App Cache Cleaner
- ColorNote
- Gazeta.pl (news from my country)
- Gmail
- Last.fm
- Messenger
- mobileMPK (also poland only app for means of tranposrt schedule)
- Opera mini
- Weather app
- SnapSave
- Youtube
That's my apps, rest are installed with that Ultimatum ROM.
I'm using it for a long time and nothing happens but then THIS apperas. I don't have any strenght to deal with it anymore, usually I need to reboot my phone X times until I have ~15 MB space again and I don't wanna it to be only solution.
Anybody experienced this before?
btw. It happens with other ROMs too.
Looking forward for solutions.
Have nice day!
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Try to wipe the dalvik-cache in order to get fre spacec, use Titanium Backup or boot ito reecovery and do it
What's a Snapsave app?? an app to get snapshoots??