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Has anyone tried it yet? Does it work? Looks nice, probably way better than the diamond one. I'm still waiting for my diamond so I can't try it out myself. If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate it.
slicker said:
Has anyone tried it yet? Does it work? Looks nice, probably way better than the diamond one. I'm still waiting for my diamond so I can't try it out myself. If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate it.
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Yes, Touchpal v3 is better then the Diamond one...
There are lots of staff in Touchpal V3 which Diamond one doesn't have.....
Does it also work in landscape mode? That is if you change the screen orientation by some other program first...
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Does it also work in landscape mode? That is if you change the screen orientation by some other program first...
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Yes, I know what is landscape mode....
And answering to your question: Yes it does....
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Yes, I know what is landscape mode....
And answering to your question: Yes it does....
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You misunderstood me I just wrote that bit of information just so that you know that I know that the screen doesn't rotate automatically on the diamond
TouchPal 3
I have been using Touchpal 3 for a while. I wouldnt use anything else. It is a great keyboard. You can change swizes on the fly, change keyboards instantly, store passwords and phrases. Works and looks great on my TD. Skinnable....get it..much better than TD keyboard.
wfhowell said:
I have been using Touchpal 3 for a while. I wouldnt use anything else. It is a great keyboard. You can change swizes on the fly, change keyboards instantly, store passwords and phrases. Works and looks great on my TD. Skinnable....get it..much better than TD keyboard.
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I must totally agree, great keyboard
I have it installed too, it is a great Keyboard but I have been experiencing lock ups when using it so currently using diamond one! gonna try going back to it again soon, see if the lock ups come back!!
Rich
Make sure you install in main memory, I've had lockups on TouchDual if installed in storage...
I can't get it to work. Intalls then says it needs to reboot to finish, then when it comes back on - nothing there?
nokmond said:
I can't get it to work. Intalls then says it needs to reboot to finish, then when it comes back on - nothing there?
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Make sure u download the version for Windows Mobile 6.1
I had the same problem, after downloading TouchPal for WM 6.1 everything worked fine
Better use FingertouchPro directly.
It's by far superior, supports several languages, and uses very little CPU. All in one, it's a more compact product, designed with high speed text input technologies , I've seen two on the website: www.fingertouchpro.com
Why choosing touchpal when are several other (better) alternatives?
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Has anyone tried it yet? Does it work? Looks nice, probably way better than the diamond one. I'm still waiting for my diamond so I can't try it out myself. If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate it.
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I did, unfortunatelly
I tried it and had to give up. There is absolutely no way to move the 'space' key in the T9 layout, unlike the other layouts. Which makes it unsafe to use when holding in the right hand I find.
Did you enable "Allow drag able keys"?
I have no problem moving the keys around, ncluding space.
TouchPal V3 the greatest SIP by far. Ever since I had started using it I rarely use the slideout hardware keyboard on my TyTn II
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Does it also work in landscape mode? That is if you change the screen orientation by some other program first...
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It does work in landscape mode, but not as you might expect:
it will not scale the buttons like for the iPhone. You will get left and right borders, so it is not easier to type with.
But: I bought it, the swifting feature is wonderful. Just try it, you have some day of fully free usage!
o0ldsch00lz said:
Better use FingertouchPro directly.
It's by far superior, supports several languages, and uses very little CPU. All in one, it's a more compact product, designed with high speed text input technologies , I've seen two on the website: www.fingertouchpro.com
Why choosing touchpal when are several other (better) alternatives?
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Better? Maybe in your opinion.
I, and many other people, find Touchpal much better and more advanced than the alternatives.
From the tone of your messages, it sounds like you had some problem with Touchpal...well fair enough, but maybe you should describe what the problem was?
I've been using Touchpal for some months, first on my Touch Cruise, and now on my Diamond, without any major problems. With the latest version 3.5 is just gets better and better.
Ben
Is version 3.5 really that much better then the Diamond's own keyboards ?
Obviously the sliding of keyboards and stretching are cool... but are the keys that much easier to use ? I know its not that expensive, but it still takes up space and cpu cycles on the phone.
Maybe good idea to see how well I get on with the built in keyboards first then instal the trial.
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Did you enable "Allow drag able keys"?
I have no problem moving the keys around, ncluding space.
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Have looked everywhere and don't see that as an option. I can move the space key in the usual keyboard layouts but none other.
Any ideas where the setting is?
Cheers
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Apparently you can't move the space key in T9 layout due to the disambiguation that occurs down left side. A HUGE mistake in my opinion as having the space to the right makes this a very unsafe keyboard to use right handed. My Diamond is too precious to risk dropping for a space key. Back to the original T9 for me then! That's a lost purchase on CooTek side.
Is it me that has really fat fingers or is the diamond thats like impossible to write on? I often have to rewrite words.. really annoying.. Im not comparing it to iphone but when i tried the iphone you never missed a letter.. and often with the diamond if i want like ? and have to press and hold it releases itself so yet again i have to delete and try again .
Is there a fix for this to get?
It is possible for me to use my fingers. Keep in mind that the iPhone has a 3.5" screen and the HTC only have 2.8"!
A solution could be the tilt the HTC so the keyboard is on the long side - here the keys are a bit larger. (gsen program to do that)
/Michael
I have just got the diamond (XDA Ignito) and have to admit the on screen keyboard will take some getting used to after my XDA Exec physical keyboard but could anyone tell me how to use the QWERTY on screen keyboard in landscape mode as that might improve my accuracy somewhat?
if you use the phone keypad, its a hell of a lot more reponsive than the artemis, the cruise or iphone, best touch sensitivity ive come across
patterns said:
if you use the phone keypad, its a hell of a lot more reponsive than the artemis, the cruise or iphone, best touch sensitivity ive come across
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Same here, using the SIP utility found on this board to have it set to phone keypad when the stylus is in the device, and full QWERTY when it's out. The Full QWERTY without using the stylus is just too frustrating.
This tool will allow you to rotate the diamond in all applications incl. messages and then the keyboard will follow to landscape mode.
Allows you to rotate the screen between portrait and landscape mode
http://htc-diamond.sosref.com/download/Gsen_1.5.cab
/Michael
BDWN said:
Same here, using the SIP utility found on this board to have it set to phone keypad when the stylus is in the device, and full QWERTY when it's out. The Full QWERTY without using the stylus is just too frustrating.
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What's the utility called? I've been looking for something that can do that!
Here is a link to the SIP discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414422
/Michael
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Here is a link to the SIP discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414422
/Michael
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Thanks for the help but that SIP doesnt work for me, it says that it cant start the sip. Is there any other?
mhfalken said:
This tool will allow you to rotate the diamond in all applications incl. messages and then the keyboard will follow to landscape mode.
Allows you to rotate the screen between portrait and landscape mode
http://htc-diamond.sosref.com/download/Gsen_1.5.cab
/Michael
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Follow this thread for more info and the latest version.
I have very small fingers, so I use the regular (small qwerty) keyboard option in portrait, just with my fingers. No need for me for other input options, because I think I tap with a 95% "succes rate".
Why HTC Touch Diamond has Multitouch if it is never used ???
watch the video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY&feature=related
wow...that's really interesting!
I'm new to the diamond so I dont know too much about it yet, but that looks quite exciting!
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Why HTC Touch Diamond has Multitouch if it is never used ???
watch the video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY&feature=related
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sry but thats not "multitouch" as people know it.
People reffer to multitouch when you the touchdisplay can handle more then a single input.
Hornet331 said:
sry but thats not "multitouch" as people know it.
People reffer to multitouch when you the touchdisplay can handle more then a single input.
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Let's say the touch screen (display?) is not multitouch, but the touch pad is.
The question of the topic has not been answered yet then:
why there is no ROM/Software using this multitouch function?
It would be great for control, for instance in games, to be able to use this multitouch function and other functionality of what seems to be one of the more advanced touch pad in mobile phone industry.
It looks like HTC was just trying out the hardware and drivers for this function and saves its use for future phone releases...
It's not true that no software uses the touch panel - any software using smart scrolling or zooming is using this fuction, also HTC camera uses it for autofocus. Some members here have also attempted to use it for locking/unlocking applications, among other things.
The problem is that none of the other 'big' developers are writing just for the Diamond.
adempozhari said:
Why HTC Touch Diamond has Multitouch if it is never used ???
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY&feature=related
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TouchLockPro uses the capacitive hardware area for unlocking.
Yes but no one is using the "multi" touch properties of the touchpad.
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Yes but no one is using the "multi" touch properties of the touchpad.
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True, but can you think of any uses?
Also, to be pedantic, this is not multi-touch - it's simultaneous use of separate controls, something that WM 6.1 has always been able to handle.
(posted from my HTC Touch Diamond)
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It's not true that no software uses the touch panel - any software using smart scrolling or zooming is using this fuction, also HTC camera uses it for autofocus. Some members here have also attempted to use it for locking/unlocking applications, among other things.
The problem is that none of the other 'big' developers are writing just for the Diamond.
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You must have missed the point of this thread and the point I was stressing in my post: Multitouch.
The program you're talking about, uses the capacity of touch panel for REPETITIVE touches at the same point, but not the MULTI-TOUCH capacity at the same time.
Same thing for smart scrolling, it does use the directional capacity of the touch panel, but not the simultaneous touch of different areas of the panel.
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True, but can you think of any uses?
Also, to be pedantic, this is not multi-touch - it's simultaneous use of separate controls, something that WM 6.1 has always been able to handle.
(posted from my HTC Touch Diamond)
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It's true that this is not pure multitouch, but at least it is simultaneous use different areas of the same control panel.
The question is not whether or not Windows Mobile has the capacity to use it. It is which program (except that specific HTC Debug Tool of course) available for Windows Mobile is actually using it... I can think of none.
If you're asking for ideas, there are loads of applications using it on the Iphone (games, browsers etc.). I don't see why it can be used on the Iphone and not on the Touch Diamond and Pro.
Except what I was pointing out in my post: lack of real will and policy to do it.
Apple has clearly focused its marketing policy on this multitouch capacity while HTC has not...
As I said, they just tested the hardware and drivers and saving the actual development for future devices...
But it is a fact that those capacities are under exploited. At least, they could have specially designed one or more games just for making use of this feature like they did for Teeter and the accelerometer.
here's an idea for the touch panel we all know our diamond has four buttons the two phone buttons a back and home button but with the multi-touch or whatever you want to call it you could have the ability to add four more buttons and then remap all of them for instance touching the phone button would bring up the phone and pressing it would launch a program. Maybe we can find some one to make that.
There is no multi touch because windows mobile 6.1 doesn't support it. When windows 7 comes out, it will support multi touch and we'll see the touch pro take advantage of that.
Hardware touch pad
The hardware pad reacts like an I-pod. If you open a photo, you can zoom in-and out with both fingers like an I-pod (zooming in by moving your fingers to each other, zooming out by moving the opposite way). It is a bit unsensitive but it works !
ok if there are apps out there that use this, does anyone know wher the API is?? Thanks!
may be HTC is waiting for WM7.0
I think touch pad can not be used often
yes but someone mentioned apps that use these features in another thread, also, the NavDbgTool uses it, so there definately is some undocumented functions!!
*prays that someone hacks it!*
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yes but someone mentioned apps that use these features in another thread, also, the NavDbgTool uses it, so there definately is some undocumented functions!!
*prays that someone hacks it!*
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yes , i started this thread to find out if someone can hack them...for example to answer a call just by touching the pad....
I think due Apple has patent on the multi-touch , so MS can't do it , about the patent u can see example:
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2006/10/09.2.shtml
psvillars said:
here's an idea for the touch panel we all know our diamond has four buttons the two phone buttons a back and home button but with the multi-touch or whatever you want to call it you could have the ability to add four more buttons and then remap all of them for instance touching the phone button would bring up the phone and pressing it would launch a program. Maybe we can find some one to make that.
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This sounds very much like GScroll:
http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx
vondee7 said:
The hardware pad reacts like an I-pod. If you open a photo, you can zoom in-and out with both fingers like an I-pod (zooming in by moving your fingers to each other, zooming out by moving the opposite way). It is a bit unsensitive but it works !
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Just to add comment on this... being able to use two fingers to zoom in and out does not mean it's multi-touch... it's actually calculating an average of your 2 touches, which is why you're finding that it's less sensitive. If you just use one finger and rotate it around the pad then it zooms in and out with a good level of sensitivity.
I've read a lot about the HTC_IME keyboard on this forum and really want to install it on the G1, but I've read conflicting reports about it causing conflicts with the G1's physical keyboard. Is that true, or can some G1 owners confirm that the HTC virtual keyboard works without conflict?
NO i use it on cyanogen rom, first get the files needed onto your sd.Turn off android input in local, then use astro to install ime then the clicker.apk, finally goto settings->locale turn on new input setting, reboot.
I use it sometimes can be tricky to get in but it is some much better than stock.
it CAN cause conflicts, but they do work together well. i have an unthemed version of HTC_IME and i have them both turned on so that when the keyboard pops up, you see the android VK instead of the HTC_IME keyboard, and it still uses all the functions of the HTC_IME. (honestly i dont like the way the HTC_IME's keys look so cluttered with numbers and symbols, but i love the user-dictionary functions and such. )
Anyway right when i made the switch to donut i had a problem with it when i tried to calibrate the HTC_IME keyboard without having the clicker.apk installed, continuous loop of FC's of the HTC_IME and i had to go all the way back to cm-4.1.11.1 and then flash back to 4.1.99 THEN back to the latest to get everything back to normal again. but since then i havent had a single problem with it, and they both work perfectly together...
-BMFC
the only "conflict" i've had with HTC_IME and the physical keyboard was when i was typing on the physical keyboard, it made the sound it makes when i type on the VK. not sure that's really a conflict though.
The only problem I've encountered with the HTC IME on my G1 is that when I touch the screen with the keyboard open, the soft keyboard's suggestion thing comes up when I start typing again. It goes away once you close & open the physical keyboard, though.
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The only problem I've encountered with the HTC IME on my G1 is that when I touch the screen with the keyboard open, the soft keyboard's suggestion thing comes up when I start typing again. It goes away once you close & open the physical keyboard, though.
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Yup this and the one above is the "conflict" that is widely known. its more of an annoyance
Thanks all for the input. I've searched and read through a lot of threads on this forum about installing the HTC VK, but there seem to be a lot of different installation procedures out there.
What would be considered the safest/easiest procedure for someone who is a novice with modding Android?
I've modded phones before, but that was only flashing feature phones with generic unbranded firmware...I've never done anything with Android. In fact, I've never even plugged in my phone's USB cable. If someone could post or link to the best installation procedure for the HTC VK I'd appreciate it.
EDIT: I'm running the stock T-Mobile 1.6 ROM if that matters.
Download the files from this thread and use AppInstaller from the Market. I'm just going by what other ppl have said in that thread so I cant guarantee anything w/ that app, I used adb to install the IME on my phone.
*EDIT* Also, just found this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/How_to_install_HTC_Keyboard.
B-man007 said:
Yup this and the one above is the "conflict" that is widely known. its more of an annoyance
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It was annoying enough to get uninstalled....
-bZj
down8 said:
It was annoying enough to get uninstalled....
-bZj
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That does sound annoying. Does the conflict go away if you go to Settings and switch back to the Android keyboard? Or is the issue there whenever the HTC VK is installed?
Yes it can be annoying when suggestions pop up when using the physical keyboard w/ HTC IME, just don't tap text entry fields when using HTC IME, use the trackball instead. Probablem solved. Just install it. You can go to settings > Locale and switch to the google IME whenever you want.
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That does sound annoying. Does the conflict go away if you go to Settings and switch back to the Android keyboard? Or is the issue there whenever the HTC VK is installed?
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Only when HTC IME is enabled.
I got it installed and it's working beautifully!
Thanks to HTC for creating it, and to Cyanogen for making it available!
AdrianK said:
Yes it can be annoying when suggestions pop up when using the physical keyboard w/ HTC IME, just don't tap text entry fields when using HTC IME, use the trackball instead. Probablem solved. Just install it. You can go to settings > Locale and switch to the google IME whenever you want.
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ya this is what i do. i like having this vk over any other vk because its accurate.... i dont always wanna open my phone lol.
I'm actually not having that problem. My issue is a little different.
Even though I have auto spelling correction enabled for the device keyboard, auto correction isn't actually working. This has been the case ever since I installed and switched to the HTC virtual keyboard.
Does anyone know a fix for this, or is this one of those things I'll have to live with?
what rom are you using it on?
This is the stock T-Mobile 1.6 ROM.
I have a 1.5 Dream & no prob with HTC_IME! Just looking to go up to 1.6 now!
Hey Guys,
Can anyone tell me how can I get the swype to work on the X8, i've installed it and it runs, i select to use the keyboard BUT when it shows up and I swipe it seems to be off by a lot on the swype, like if the keys werent calibrated and adjusted to the screen swypes. Any idea on how i can get this wonderfull app running on the X8, since I had it on my Nokia 5800 this was the fastest way to text, now I can't handle the keyboard either htc nor android live up to the swyping technique!
Thanks in advance for your help.
Sent from my Non-Stoppable Brain Activity.
Dont know, but why dont give a shot another great keyboard, in fact the one that I love, SlideiT. Is working great in my x8
GO keyboard have swype
Sir_gpm said:
Dont know, but why dont give a shot another great keyboard, in fact the one that I love, SlideiT. Is working great in my x8
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Thanks for the advice, I downloaded and tried this one BUT after I restarted the phone and I select the typing area the keyboard won't come up, I have to select the Android or HTC one again, I un-installed it and installed again but the keyboard swiping doesn't really work quite the same as SWYPE because it kinda releases the motion in the middle of a slide. I will try GO keyboard now just cause I rather swyping than typing.