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Making the Kaiser Finger Friendly

I don't know if everyone else has incredibly small fingers, but I had trouble using the on screen keyboard with my digits without pressing the wrong buttons all the time. Secondly, I found navigating with the Kaiser when docked in a car or a holder to be a complete bind. Trying to do something like a telephone call was way more difficult than my old Nokia 6230i
I just wanted to say that I am now finally happy with my Kaiser after doing the following 4 things:
Installing KaiserTweak and modifying settings such as TouchFlo sensitivity and backlight settings
Installing PointUI for finger based navigation
Installing PocketCM Contacts - This ties in nicely with PointUI's interface and filled in a feature that PointUI desperately lacked
Installing PocketCM Keyboard to stop my fat fingers pressing the wrong buttons.
I can now use my Kaiser completely from the screen without having to revert to the stylus or the keypad, which is very useful when it is docked somewhere like in the car.
I just wanted to let others know in case they were having the same problems as I had.
Regards,
Rob

I still use the slide out keyboard once and a while but I instead use the following:
spb Mobile Shell 2.0
Resco Keyboard (iPhone skin)

laakness said:
I still use the slide out keyboard once and a while but I instead use the following:
spb Mobile Shell 2.0
Resco Keyboard (iPhone skin)
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I wasn't aware of those products and they are definitely worth considering. The Resco keyboard appears to work in a very similar way to the PocketCM Keboard with a couple of added features as far as I can see.

also something to consider is the big start menu and long endkey.
and i use finger friendly friends instead of pocketcm contacts because it is alot faster.
the spb mobile shell works really good spb also has a onscreen keyboard that works pretty sweet

I've been sold by FFF. The speed and on screen keyboard accuracy is the best that I have seen for finger usage. If anyone has any other finger usability improvement programs they'd like to suggest free or to pay for I'd be interested in hearing about them.

rfarnell said:
I've been sold by FFF. The speed and on screen keyboard accuracy is the best that I have seen for finger usage. If anyone has any other finger usability improvement programs they'd like to suggest free or to pay for I'd be interested in hearing about them.
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iContact is also very good. Takes of very little device memory unlike PocketCM and it's very easy to use. This one is free and is in the develop and hacking section. No need to install it either...just run the .exe from your phone.

i had FFF before until they promped me in registering... but i remember reading somewhere that the software was free during this time of development...

rfarnell said:
I don't know if everyone else has incredibly small fingers, but I had trouble using the on screen keyboard with my digits without pressing the wrong buttons all the time. Secondly, I found navigating with the Kaiser when docked in a car or a holder to be a complete bind. Trying to do something like a telephone call was way more difficult than my old Nokia 6230i
I just wanted to say that I am now finally happy with my Kaiser after doing the following 4 things:
Installing KaiserTweak and modifying settings such as TouchFlo sensitivity and backlight settings
Installing PointUI for finger based navigation
Installing PocketCM Contacts - This ties in nicely with PointUI's interface and filled in a feature that PointUI desperately lacked
Installing PocketCM Keyboard to stop my fat fingers pressing the wrong buttons.
I can now use my Kaiser completely from the screen without having to revert to the stylus or the keypad, which is very useful when it is docked somewhere like in the car.
I just wanted to let others know in case they were having the same problems as I had.
Regards,
Rob
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does anyone have point ui cab?

ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
does anyone have point ui cab?
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It's easy enough to find the blue and black style cab's here: http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx

so let me get this straight this is something just like spb mobile shell?
i thought it was like a plug in allowing the navigation of the device it self to be more finger friendly...
is there anything like that?

here is my combo.
touchpal pro (keyboard)
thumb cal (calander)
PocketCM (Contacts)
Asus Launcher (Start Menu)
Touch Cube (Quick Access to stuff)
THis will keep you finger frindly.

AllTheWay said:
iContact is also very good. Takes of very little device memory unlike PocketCM and it's very easy to use. This one is free and is in the develop and hacking section. No need to install it either...just run the .exe from your phone.
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Wow, iContact is awesome. Blows the stock one away!

Simplicity for Efficiency
Hi all,
You could add s.l.i. ThumbCal in your list...
And for all big fingers and others PointUI addicts , you can get a lot of third softs skins in this thread.

any links to where to get the cabs?

S2P
Slide2Play is also a nice music player for your fingers...

i am especially interested in the touch keyboard

Dialer Skin only
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
i am especially interested in the touch keyboard
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Any dialer Skin Only?

rfarnell said:
I've been sold by FFF. The speed and on screen keyboard accuracy is the best that I have seen for finger usage.
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Yeah, I love the scroll speed on this app. Can anyone tell me why other apps and Windows Mobile itself has to be so sluggish when little 3rd party efforts like this and Pointui work so much faster??

i have already tried FFF and didnt like it much. SPB contacts work the sameway and the buttons are bigger...
i am still interested in the touch keyboard...

I tried PocketCM but it didn't work as well as I'd hoped. The problem -- for me anyway -- was that if I wanted a letter like "r" I'd have my finger over it but it's so sensitive that the act of lifting my finger would trigger an adjacent letter and I'd get that instead.

Best one-handed keypad / keyboard?

Hi all,
First off, my first post here, so be gentle .
I'm looking for a keypad or keyboard to install on my Vario III so that I can type SMSes with one hand whilst on the London Underground. As good as the keyboard is, it requires two hands to be usable.
I've used the HTC Diamond keypad / keyboard pack that's on these boards, and another one after following a rabbit hole, and although they do as I want, they removed another functionality: Whilst typing on the real keyboard, I lost the word/ name suggestion box whilst typing! I find this box very useful, not least in the names section, and don't want it gone.
So, in brief, can you guys recommend a one-handed keypad for SMSing, which doesn't lose that word suggestion box functionality?
Many thanks guys!

Hi,
I tried thumbkey but it is a little buggy
Touchpal (especially the last Version, 3.0) is perfect for me...

Hi szdavid,
just had a little go on touchpal now using the trail version, and although the suggestion box was there, I'm more of an 'oldie' when it coems to texting i.e. dislike T9 or any predictive texting, and it took a couple of different areas to get one char up (choose the button, then the character).
I'll try the other one once I get up tomorrow. Thanks though, and any other suggestions out there?

If I were you, I would get the Touch Diamond Keypad.
It is just like it is on a regular phone. I will attach the CAB as well as the other Touch Diamond Keyboard.
The .CAB in this attachment is all 3 Touch Diamond Keyboards. 1 is Qwerty and 1 is the Keyboard and the other is the Keypad.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XXJ5J1OK

piepiepie77 said:
If I were you, I would get the Touch Diamond Keypad.
It is just like it is on a regular phone. I will attach the CAB as well as the other Touch Diamond Keyboard.
The .CAB in this attachment is all 3 Touch Diamond Keyboards. 1 is Qwerty and 1 is the Keyboard and the other is the Keypad.
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I've tried that one, and I loved it, except for the fact that I lost the suggestion box above the cursor, which is important to me (which is why I uninstalled it).
Is there something like that, except without the loss of that functionality, please?

samo.chan said:
I've tried that one, and I loved it, except for the fact that I lost the suggestion box above the cursor, which is important to me (which is why I uninstalled it).
Is there something like that, except without the loss of that functionality, please?
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did you hit the ABC<->T9 toggle button second in from the left on the bottom row, it seems to give me exactly what you want..
I running the qwerty keyboard for info !!!

tengo thumb gets my vote.
http://www.tengo.net/tengo_thumb.html

I might try that Tengo one, and Jerwick, I did press that button, but it still didn't give me back the suggestion box.. I'm not sure you know which one i mean...
I think it's the keypad /board's own predicter that's causing the problem and stopping the cursor suggesttion box...
any tips?

I do know what you are talking about. On some occasions, it doesn't work for me either. It has some flaws- but other than that, it's about as basic as you can get.

pie, I never got it to work unfortuneatly, and I guess I use the inline thingy mor than the one-handy thingy
guess that means that there isn't one with the same great functionality as that diamond one, then

ive actually started using the full keyboard one handed. slide it out and type with one hand, its hard to get used to.

th1rt3en said:
ive actually started using the full keyboard one handed. slide it out and type with one hand, its hard to get used to.
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You're good, I can barely type on the Tilt keyboard sitting on the table with cut fingernails. I just can't get used to the feel, travel, feedback..... something.
OH, ANd THis ANoys ME TOo if I type too fast.

Right now, I'm using the resco keyboard which has already been mentioned.
I was wondering if there was one similar to that with bigger buttons? It would make texting while doing other stuff much easier using both thumbs.
Sometimes hitting the right key with the resco board is difficult as well.

Coudl we get the Diamond keyboard .CAB on another server? Please, we cant access megaupload in this country.

CorruptedSanity said:
Coudl we get the Diamond keyboard .CAB on another server? Please, we cant access megaupload in this country.
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its in my signature under Cabs, Keyboards

There is nothing better than the Touchpal once you learn to use it period.
-McMex

Touchpal is the best for me hands down...
It offers several input methods ranging from QWERTY to T9...
And you can skin it very easily.

CorruptedSanity said:
Coudl we get the Diamond keyboard .CAB on another server? Please, we cant access megaupload in this country.
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It's been on my 4shared the entire time.

it seems like there are a lot of avodcates for the touchpal one, which I did like, but wasn't entirely happy with...
I might end up with it because it's the nest of the lot that I've been recommended, that and maybe the resco one

+1 TouchPal for me

Touch Screen Typing

Hi all
I am thinking of getting this phone when it is released in the uk. but i really only have one issue which i want your opinions on, and that is whats the typing like on the screen (i use a iphone at the mo and its really good) has anyone used both, if so are they the same.
any help on this would be great
Many thanks
Neel

No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.

I to have both an iPhone and a Diamond and I can confirm that they're definitly not the same. The iphone is a lot better when typing, part of that comes from the larger screen but also the sensitivity. If you require typing a lot, I'd stick with the iphone or get a device that has a HW keyboard. Such as the upcoming touch pro.

omegaz said:
No, they're not the same. With diamond it's quite pointless to type without stylus, because you'll make too many mistakes. I use full qwerty keyboard and stylus, works well.
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I type without the styles, using full qwerty and that works fine for me. It also helps to do some registry tweaks on pressure settings of the touch screen. The iphone's touch interface is more responsive though.

I use the compact qwerty with T9 activated and I find it quicker than using my previous phone (Nokia N73).
I have the ipod touch and I am not able to write with just one hand on it, and that bugs me... but with the diamond I can type with just one hand and the compact qwerty (2 letters per buttom). I think it's just a personal preference...

First of all the Diamond has been officially released in the UK for about a good week or so....i have one.
Secondly i use the full qwerty keyboard and have absolutely no trouble typing withmy fingers...in fact its great. I use the stylus as well and it works well too.
I have an ipod touch and i find typing on that to be a chore, i make way too many mistakes on the ipod touch compared to the Diamond.
If you buy the phone then make sure you do the tweaks listed in the tweak thread or better still flash to the TLR rom and all thos tweaks above are enabled.
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.

Spawn12 said:
Typing on the Diamond is a joy, typing on the ipod touch isnt in my opinion.
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I have to agree - coming from an iPhone to a Diamond, I find the Diamond much better. I NEVER use the stylus at all and type with the full QUERTY. Its much quicker as all the symbols and numbers can be typed by holding another key for a few seconds rather than entering a new menu to do it.
I haven't adjusted the sensitivity at all, but I do find the Diamond needs a slightly harder touch... however it does work with a pair of gloves on (unlike the iPhone).
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!

p3eps said:
The only dissapointing thing with the Diamond typing that Apple have nailed is that if you're typing a word and press the key next to the one you want by mistake it doesnt auto correct it. If you press the wrong key on the Diamond, you just get the wrong word!
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I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS

s1rl4ncel0t said:
I guess it will be just a metter of time until someone will figure out a software with the same capabilities as the one from iphone
HastaSSSS
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This is not going to be fully possible. Hardware wise, the iPhone has a proximity sensor which will detect where your thumb/finger is going to hit on the onscreen keyboard and virtually enlarges the surface area of the suggested key to ensure that you are going to hit the correct key. It will also auto-correct the word based on it's huge library.
In addition to this is the obvious size of the screens, the Diamond's being smaller making it harder to type. The onscreen full QWERTY that HTC have implemented in the Diamond is quite poor and is prone to keystroke errors if you're a fast typer *like myself*.
I am currently using PCM Keyboard however and is somewhat 'closer' to that of the iPhone's keyboard capability, where the included dictionary will analyze the keystrokes of a word you type and will try match your keystrokes with the closest/most suited word in its dictionary by substituting incorrect letters with more correct letters surrounding that of the incorrectly entered key.
The iPhone keyboard, is without a doubt, the best onscreen keyboard I have used and I really do miss it. This doesn't go without saying that I do really love my Diamond too, I just wish there was a better keyboard implemented.

The iPhone/Touch is hands down better than any Windows Mobile device when it comes to the onscreen software keyboard. There is simply no comparison. I get that some people find the Diamond better but to be honest, and coming from a hardcore WiMo fan who's gone through at least ten PocketPC devices, the iPhone's keyboard blows any WiMo device away.
Part of the reason is the size of the keyboard and the sensitivity, but even on the HTC Universal with its huge screen, it wasn't as easy as typing on the iPhone. The real secret of the iPhone's ease of use is its Autocorrection feature. To date, there is only one SIP keyboard on WiMo that comes close and it is not PCM Keyboard, it's Touch Pal.
I recommend giving Touchpal a try; it does key proximity sensing the same way the iPhone does, so if you type in "hrllo" it will change it to "hello" after you press the space bar. The dictionary though is bigger and offers more word choices, and isn't as smart as the iPhone's so the iPhone keyboard is still overall better. But Touch Pal isn't half bad.

suggest you check the dates on this thread your nearly 11 months late answering!! lol

Phone keypad and T9 seems about as fast as my old Nokia
Love it.

Fitaly 5 or Touchpal 3.5 for Diamond?

Which do you think is the better text input keyboard?
Thanks,
Jon

Diamond original keyboard

Riply said:
Diamond original keyboard
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Oh yeah? Have you ever tried TouchPal? The input speed you can reach with it, is really amazing and the buttons are MUCH larger than the HTC full qwerty's.

Keyboard
touchpal 3.5 for sure.....does the supplied keyboard save passwords? or does it do multilanguages? Can you resize it? I really dont know, ive used touchpal 3.5 for a while. I love it.

yup Touch pal is bar far the best, i use it on full qwerty with my chunky electricians fingers and it works fine

Anyone use Touchpal with Gsen so you have landscape mode for the keyboard? Find that easier to type on?

Was a stupid joke
You have a link or something else?

Jon12345 said:
Anyone use Touchpal with Gsen so you have landscape mode for the keyboard? Find that easier to type on?
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Just started using TouchPal. Its excellent for me.
I would also like to use it in landscape mode, but its not so good. Anyone looked into this?
Thanks

I just compared the two and the TouchPal buttons are way smaller than the Diamond's built in SIP.

Texting with one hand

Hi, do you have a problem when you need to type text message but only one hand is free? Standard on screen keyboard has to small letters, for me it is impossible to use hardware keyboard with one hand. It will be great to install keyboard which will mimic standard mobile phone keyboard one click on 1 will type a, two clicks b, and so on… and which will cover half of screen similar to keyboard which pop ups when you are calling someone.
It will be great if someone posts link where I can download that additional keyboard for wm6.1
Thanks

Your Solution
http://pocketcm.com/index.php
Have Fun, Its free.
Just install cab, restart phone and then select PCM Keyboard from drop up menu for keyboard.
Any Probs, Message Me.

pericaperica said:
Hi, do you have a problem when you need to type text message but only one hand is free? Standard on screen keyboard has to small letters, for me it is impossible to use hardware keyboard with one hand. It will be great to install keyboard which will mimic standard mobile phone keyboard one click on 1 will type a, two clicks b, and so on… and which will cover half of screen similar to keyboard which pop ups when you are calling someone.
It will be great if someone posts link where I can download that additional keyboard for wm6.1
Thanks
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there are a lot of keyboard you could use for your device. All you have to do is a small and simple search with google, altavista or if you prefer in this forum too.
btw, you can look for Cooteck Touchpal, PocketCm, Resco Keyboard, Spb Keyboard and of course the one extracted from Diamond (P1TATER or similar)
good luck and sorry for bad english.
fausto

Sorry to say it, but for one hand operation I don't think anything beats the standard cell phone hardware keypad.

there is this HTC keypad.cab..that looks like the conventional cellphone keypad hardware..im still looking for it too

Check out the Touchpal keyboard before you make your decision once you get used to it you can type faster with one hand then some people with two.
http://cootek.com/
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Check out the Touchpal keyboard before you make your decision once you get used to it you can type faster with one hand then some people with two.
http://cootek.com/
-McMex
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Just wanted to say thanks. I hated this type of keyboard with it no individual key layout when I tried a similar version before. BUt this one is great.Takes some getting used to but I going to give it a week and see how it goes.
Many thnks!

No problem once I got used to it there is no comparison I hardly even use the hardware keyboard because it is slower than Touchpal. Good Luck
-McMex

what do you guys think about the Resco Keyboard Pro. I have been using that and seems ok.

All apologies for the unintentional hijack, but I installed PCM Keyboard and also Touch Diamond Keyboard, but now word completion no longer works. They work great, but I checked word completion settings and it is set, but no longer suggests words. Is this normal?

paypalbid said:
what do you guys think about the Resco Keyboard Pro. I have been using that and seems ok.
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I'm still using it despite installing/trying other keyboards...

oriki said:
I'm still using it despite installing/trying other keyboards...
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I found it to be the best. I downloaded some nicer iSkin layouts

Every time I try to use the PocketCM, nothing happens when I change to it in the menu where I can select which entry type I want.....what am I doing wrong?

I have used all other keyboards including Resco etc but I have found that SPB Keyboard is now the best. It has an option to have the keyboard in landscape mode and it becomes very big, enabling one to type with one hand very easily. Try it out. It also has many skins available for download from SPB's site.

MACkjam said:
I have used all other keyboards including Resco etc but I have found that SPB Keyboard is now the best. It has an option to have the keyboard in landscape mode and it becomes very big, enabling one to type with one hand very easily. Try it out. It also has many skins available for download from SPB's site.
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i agree spb keyboard is great, but how do you make it as the default keyboard? it seems that after a soft reset the keyboard goes to the orig. one and have to select spb KB again.

I tried all keyboards and didn't like any. Then I found "EZ input". It works best for me.

try/google for SPB KEYBOARD v4.x
in my opinion, the best keyboard i've ever tested (and i've tested a lot of..)!
unfortunately it isn't freeware.. but the money worth(?) it

marlon22701 said:
i agree spb keyboard is great, but how do you make it as the default keyboard? it seems that after a soft reset the keyboard goes to the orig. one and have to select spb KB again.
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If you activate the Spb Keyboard, Tap on the sip arrow, go to Spb Keyboard Options>System tab then check box to make it default keyboard. Then it is always there even after soft resets. There are also several different skins to download for free from Spb's site. My favourites are skin4 and stainless. I use skin4 all the time now because keys are nice and big for my fingers.

MACkjam said:
If you activate the Spb Keyboard, Tap on the sip arrow, go to Spb Keyboard Options>System tab then check box to make it default keyboard. Then it is always there even after soft resets. There are also several different skins to download for free from Spb's site. My favourites are skin4 and stainless. I use skin4 all the time now because keys are nice and big for my fingers.
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hi, thanks for the response.
i did that already and even in the input method but every after soft reset the keyboard is the one appearing and not the spb KB, i have to select it again.

FingerTouch v1.0
I found FingerTouch v1.0 and I think Is´s better then SPB Keybord, because FingerTouch have relly big buttons and with this keybord is relly possible to write with one hand during walking. If I were you I would try It because It´s excelent keybord. It has 4 or 5 types of keybords and you can download a lot of skins.