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I'm currently on Soulife's Ion Remix v1.0 and I'm very happy with the speed, and reasonably happy with stability/force closes. I'm not a prolific flasher (oo-er!) but I've tried a few ROMs (JF1.5/Ion R1/R2/Soulife Ion v1.0) and this is the best so far.
I keep on reading how Cyanogen is the fastest and most stable ROM around, and I'm getting tempted to try it, IF it's better than the ROM i'm currently on. I don't have much time at the moment to keep wiping and reinstallling apps etc, so I don't want to do this if there isn't a stability or speed improvement over Ion Remix.
Has anyone tried both? Can you give me your opinion which is better?
I don't use apps2sd (mainly because its another hassle i don't want). One thing I do want is the HTC_IME Touch Input keyboard, which doesn't seem to work for me on Ion Remix, so I guess this is another reason for me to change.
Any advice? Thanks!
I haven't used Soulife, so maybe you don't want my opinion. It's the internet though, so I'm giving my $0.02 anyway.
I don't think anyone, Google included, is pushing Android as close to the limits of how well it can run as Cyanogen is. You don't need to be a prolific flasher either - Stick with his stable build, update when he releases a new stable. Right now that's 3.6.5, and it has been rock solid in my experience (and the majority of the users posting over in development)
apps2sd isn't required - I ran without it for awhile, switched to it when I got my new card. No real difference, other than storage space available.
HTC IME is included and runs fine.
Cyanogens rom is the fastest out there period. Also when upgrading from a previous versin of his rom to a newer one there is no need to wipe, so you don't need to reinstall all your apps.
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I'm currently on Soulife's Ion Remix v1.0 and I'm very happy with the speed, and reasonably happy with stability/force closes. I'm not a prolific flasher (oo-er!) but I've tried a few ROMs (JF1.5/Ion R1/R2/Soulife Ion v1.0) and this is the best so far.
I keep on reading how Cyanogen is the fastest and most stable ROM around, and I'm getting tempted to try it, IF it's better than the ROM i'm currently on. I don't have much time at the moment to keep wiping and reinstallling apps etc, so I don't want to do this if there isn't a stability or speed improvement over Ion Remix.
Has anyone tried both? Can you give me your opinion which is better?
I don't use apps2sd (mainly because its another hassle i don't want). One thing I do want is the HTC_IME Touch Input keyboard, which doesn't seem to work for me on Ion Remix, so I guess this is another reason for me to change.
Any advice? Thanks!
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Cyan runs the performance-related parts of ION that make it so fast, so at this point, it's already fast enough as ION. There are a lot of different things he does to his Kernal that makes it faster, along with tweaks to different apps to make them run faster as well. What you hear is true :]
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Cyan runs the performance-related parts of ION that make it so fast, so at this point, it's already fast enough as ION. There are a lot of different things he does to his Kernal that makes it faster, along with tweaks to different apps to make them run faster as well. What you hear is true :]
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To be fair, if you read through Cyanogen's update thread ... It sounds like he hasn't really found much from ION that tweaks performance. ION's speed just comes from it being a real clean build of Android without lots of extras. Cyanogen's speed tweaks are mostly his own, with some patches from the cupcake and donut branches that haven't made it into the OTA releases.
switch to CM 3.6.5
I just did the switch a couple of days ago and I was also stand offish about apps2sd but I found the thread on how to do it in terminal emulator. It was extremely easier than I thought. The rom does the rest for you. I am constantly suprised how fast and user friendly the rom is. I even overlayed tehseano&moonsspoon hero theme over it with no problems. I am going to stay with this until I know something is better.
Just update your recovery image to 1.3.1 and then do the Nandroid backup. Run which ever rom you want and then if you use the 1.3.1 you can just reflash right back without much of any effort.
Of course you can if you want to use your PC and do the Nandroid rebuild, but thats so last month.
Heres my two cents for ya...I was put off to try apps2sd as well, figuring the same, that id hafta keep redoing everything andf messing it up and starting over...not the way it went down, dude. Not at all. I was coming from the dudes 1.3RC1 to cyanogens...i updated to cyanogen's recovery, then installed CM3.6. I booted into recovery, ran A2sd (ctl+m) and when i rebooted it was all done. I never wiped, and for the first day i had a battery glitch where it didnt wanna hold a charge very long, but after i let it charge overnight it stopped and have not had a problem in the world since. And Im still on CM3.6, also not a "prolific flasher", and i plan on staying right where im at until somebody puts out something (personally) worth flashing again. Cyanogen is controlling the "market" right now, in case noone's noticed all the ROM threads stamped with "CYANOGENIZED". His is definitely the way to go, almost all the other roms out there are somewhat based off of, or including something from his. And its not a pain in the ass like you think as long as you pay attention and make sure all your bases are covered. BACKUP YOUR STUFF!!! just in case...
-BMFC
honestly
I did a lot of comparisons on ion and byte for byte, every binary except debuggerd is identical as adp1.51 or crb43 and the only difference is the compiled time, it looks like ions debuggerd was compiled 4 minutes earlier than adp1.51's. Same thing for all the library's, only difference is libreference-ril.so which I assume has something to do with it coming from sapphire. However, there is like 6 or 7 binarys excluded from ion (I'm not at my pc so I can't tell you which ones off my head). So if you ever hear this build has dalvikvm from ion for speed you can laugh cause its identicall to the one on a stock g1.
The ion remix v1 and 1.1 is using A LOT of cyanogens goodness, I can do this cause its all google based. What you are gaining by using cyanogens is whatever new is introduced in aosp revision 2. I'm running an unreleased beta 1.2 with cyanogens .29 kernel and squashfs and it flys. You can compare his description to mine (will be updated with 1.2) but your getting a lot of the same stuff.
Take advantage of cyanogens pimped out recovery. You can backup your phone, wipe and flash and if your not happy just restore it like you never left. Take advantage of advancement. Try some other builds out to measure your likes. Just not hero, its evil.
Hey guys,
Could anyone suggest to me the fastest, most stable ROM for my G1 that doesn't run into any issues (especially from everyday use).
I've used plenty of them, mainly sourcing off Cyanogen but I seem to always get some delays especially with my phone, so many people have told me they tried ringing me but went straight to voicemail and my phone has no missed calls or anything, just sitting idle and this is a major pain.
I'm currently on the original version waiting to upgrade, is there an official Cupcake version I can download? My calls coming in quickly are more important than themes right now.
Thanks!
Im using CSDIv1....its a FAST rom. I dont have Swap enable(Sucks battery) nor 10MB Ramhack(Like my 3D apps), and still its a really fast rom.
There is only one problem with it, and its that the Keyboard is on Spanish. But you can change it just pushing a folder to the system, and voila. If you need some asistance, just ask.
I suggest the latest MghtyMax ROM. Is the fastest and stable Hero ROM I've tested.
super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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super d 1.8...i made the switch from Cyanogen a few weeks ago and its been 100% worth it. Super D's rom is lighting fast I promise and i had a problem with missed texts on CM's rom and have not had that problem since i switched.
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I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
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I keep hearing this, and as soon as my class 6 micro comes in, I think Im gonna have to try it.
Its hard to believe, as I just flashed cyanogen 4.2.14.1 ands its freakin fast. Hard to believe theres a faster one.
Guess I ll have to give it a shot. Has anyone actually tried cyanogens newest and compared it to super d 1.8? Is it really THAT much faster?
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i did i came from cm 4.2.14.1 and i couldnt believehow much faster it was...my weather clock widget is always right now too
@dmm0816
Nice. My new card should be here tomorrow. I ll flash tomorrow then. Hoping the higher class card will make some difference too.
Thanks for your help man.
For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
I use king's 2.3 hero rom, I only use hero roms anyway though, best normal rom I've tried, however is super d. although, cyanogen is very "noob friendly"
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For everyday use you want Cyanogen.
For Speed get either FastTest or SuperD. They're basically the same thing.
Hope this helps.
I suggest DarkStar theme for Cyanogen and SuperD
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Hmm..Im curious why you say that. What makes Cyanogen more "everyday useable"? What would you actually say are the biggest differences in the 2 roms?
Really they're all apples, just different flavours. From what I've read, they all have the same bits and bites from Eclair; cyanogen's modded code (right?). I personally pick CM over everything else because the community support for CM is a larger, more discussion. Of course, this doesn't mean the other ones are inferior. You should try them all for like a day or two. Wipe before you try a new one, so you can tell which one really works best.
2.1 Roms on the other hand I think need more work. Not all the drivers work yet. I tried OpenEclair and I felt a bit handicap compared to the 1.6 Roms. Also, for me at least, it didn't feel as fast as the 1.6 Roms. Good roms but need more work.
I was running Cyonogen for some time and I was pleased but I love to experiment. For the last 2 weeks I've been testing the 2.1 ASOP roms out from King(1.5) and Enclair (1.15). Both are great builds but I prefer the customization in enclair more and both are fairly stable. I was having the issue of texts getting deleted and the Rom's just seemed like they were not as quick as I wanted them to be. I enjoyed the new layout but I was finally just frustrated with overall performance and I keep reading about the Super D build. I wiped my phone and threw it on few hours ago and WOW! It is blazing fast and very stable from what I can see so far. I've tried some apps out that were proving difficult before and just wow I am amazed. This build may be on the 1.6 based side but I am glad to have performance back over some "prettyness". I may try the 2.1 builds again but I will wait for all of the kinks to work out. So my opinion is hands down Super D ( I believe it was 1.8 v) is the best build available right when looking at overall performance and stability. I love it! Made my day!
*on a side note*
I could never get Youtube to install and work with the enclair ASOP 2.1 builds, it was very frustrating as you cannot download the app from the app store and issues installing manually via the APK.
I found AmonRa 1.6.3 to be the fastest and stable ROM, in my opinion
Rgds
I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
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I want speed, stabilitiy and normal functionality for the phone for my girlfriend. It looks like the Cyanogen is the safest bet... am I right to infer that 2.0/2.1 ROMs aren't quite up to snuff yet?
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In my experience, 1.6 will always be snappier then 2.0/2.1 builds; at least for now. Our G1s don't exactly have a huge amount of space to store bigger ROMs. Really having 2.1 isn't necessary but it does have some nice features that 1.6 doesn't have. Like ability to have multiple google accounts and facebook sync. I can't really think of anything else of the top of my head but I'm sure there are at least a few others.
One thing people haven't gotten to work on 2.1 ROMs for G1, is the video camera. Camera works though on most 2.1 ROMs now (all?). The new contacts display for 2.1 is nice but even laggier then the one used in 1.6 ROMs. Can't think of anything else, someone help!
Basically, 2.1 has a lot more STUFF in general. Whether you need this extra stuff is up to you, because STUFF needs more RAM stuff, and G1 is low in that department.
My opinion:
MghtyMax 1.9.1 is veeeery fast!!! (with Swap, SetCpu and all that stuff, of course)
I like any of the Roms from King's collection and I like Super-D verry much too. Cyanogen's rom has a larger community cause that's normally what people hear when learning about rooting and stuff. I only used Cyan when I compared Enom to Cyan and Enom's was faster and everything was great.Super-D is faster than Cyan but seems slower than Enom's, Cyan has the eclair stuff just like Super-D. But I think its up to what you like you cant let others decide cause their perception of speed is diff from yours.
Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
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Fast Test v. 2.3
Its pretty much a super d rom with the darkstar theme embeded within.
No fcs at all. I recommend it highly!!
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I just actually read about that rom, and it seems good. What makes me wonder though, is that some people say its faster than Super D. How could it actually be faster, as this rom is more or less just Super D with a theme installed? Surely, having the theme installed would decrease performance buy a little bit, vs increase it.
But what do I know
Edit: Ok, Im stupid. as Fast Test doesnt have the Eclaire stuff, thats where a performance increase would come. **slams head on keyboard**
Super D, hands down. No rom even comes close.
And Fast Test 2.3 IS Super D, just with a theme, so unless you want that specific theme, there's no point in getting Fast Test, when Super D is available.
I bought my gf a Sprint Hero to see if she likes using Android. Might buy an Evo or whatever comes next if she likes the platform (this is her first smartphone, I've been using them for a loooong time - since the iPaq days!)
Anyway, the used one I bought her has stock 1.5 ROM on it, and I know that the Sprint 2.1 ROM is also available. I've searched all over and see mixed opinions on if its worth upgrading or not. A lot of bugs seem to crop up in the 2.1 version, but also some new features and better app compatibility in the market.
I'm a long-time HTC device user, but always WinMo, so I'm no stranger to flashing/modding etc. But I don't want to get into that at all with her phone, she'll get angry if I try to do something and then something else breaks, so I just want whatever stock ROM "just works" best. I don't want to have to "maintain" this device.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks in advance.
Hi there. As far as what "just works"...I have used both 1.5 and 2.1 stock...some people have experienced multiple problems. I used 2.1 stock for awhile before rooting...and quite honestly, the only problems I had was occasional lag...not drastic like some have reported....and rapid battery drain. I've since rooted 2.1 and use an overclocked kernel. Now, with GPS location off (still use cell service loc.), and no task killer whatsoever...i get almost 24 hours of battery with moderate to high usage. I experience no lag whatsoever. And, quite honestly, the rooting process and installing the OC'd kernel are VERY easy. I don't know about your girlfriend, but the skeptics I know...given a few days running straight stock unrooted...came back in a couple days begging me to root and make their Hero "run like mine".
Thanks for the info. I might go that route. Are you running a ROM with Sense? Did you just root the stock Sprint Sense ROM and OC it?
Any more help would be appreciated, like I said I've done a lot of ROM flashing and modding in the past but always on WinMo, I'm new to Android but have been reading up on these forums so I think I have a good sense of what needs to be done now. I'm not afraid of rooting / flashing processes, but I really don't want to put on ROMs where little weird glitches are going to piss her off. I don't mind dealing with that on my own phone, but this really does need to be a one-time job where I can just had it off to her and never have to deal with it again
I am running a ROM with Sense. It's the actually the HTC ROM that has been rooted. Here is a link to the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267 It runs sweet. I also formatted the stock 2gb SD card to ext for use with Apps2SD and it worked flawlessly after flashing the ROM. There are plenty of straightforward instructions here in this forum. Like I said, I think your g/f will be very pleased with the speed and battery life using this message. I flash a couple roms now and then to try something new, but always come back to this 'cuz it "just works".
1.5 is faster & more stable imo...but outdated. 2.1 provides a few new features but it's really up to her which one she wants to use. try them both out.
for 2.1 id use the stock rooted sprint rom
for 1.5 id suggest the pancake rom.
If you flash one of the OC kernels, just know that not all phones can handle the OC speeds, especially on bootup. If you decide to flash an OC kernel, MAKE SURE you nandroid backup first in case that phone goes into bootloops or freezes after the new kernel. Start with the 691mhz one just to test, then if all is good you can move up to 710mhz or 768mhz if you want more.
Also, to answer your initial question, I personally think stock 2.1 is much better overall than 1.5. Without even considering OC kernels, extra apps, widgets, etc....Android 1.5 didn't even have native CDMA support, so it had to contain a lot more code/tweaking for our Sprint build, which is why it runs so slowly and laggy. 2.1 includes CDMA support which automatically makes the code smaller and it means the OS automatically runs more quickly and smoothly on almost all HTC Heroes.
The only big consistent issue I've heard of on stock 2.1 is terrible Bluetooth functionality. Most other issues are hit or miss cases that aren't very common.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info, this has all been helpful.
To update, I dove in and just updated to the latest 2.1 Sprint official ROM (.6). I don't really think she has a current need to be rooted, as she doesn't use many apps, and doesn't need tethering.
If the need arises in the future for these things, I'll just flash the ROM linked above, or flash back to .5, root, and re-flash. Maybe by then there will be a root for .6 anyway and it will be even easier yet.
I'd also like to post my experience with 1.5 vs 2.1 I am not sure why everyone feels 2.1 is so much slower. I'm guessing it's because they haven't applied the .6 patch, which in addition to fixing the root exploit, also adds a bunch of speed enhancements in the UI.
2.1 is much faster on her phone than 1.5, especially scrolling in long lists, using the dialer, and even swiping between homescreens. She's quite happy with it, and I don't have to hack any fixes due to broken stuff in ROMs, so I'm happy too
I'm liking Android enough that I think I'm willing to buy another phone to play with, I got sick of dealing with flashing and hacking on my WinMo devices, so I went to iPhone. But I want a new Android HTC phone to play with, I think I'll buy a Nexus One or something.
There are so many roms available, but which is the fastest and most stable rom, whether it is eclair or a froyo mod? Since battery has been an issue for most of the roms available, we have to know which rom has the best battery life.
For me, the fastest rom I've encountered was the froyo mod 2.1
However, battery wise, the rom that uses the least amt of power for me was the normal GOT rom with no other roms applied.
Anyone feels otherwise? Feel free to share your experiences with the available roms so to give others an idea of what to expect on other roms.
Base on my personal experience, I think FroyoMod rocks (beside that small lag after undocking that I experience). the battery life is a-okay, not stellar, but good enough.
Last time I tried GOT the rom was really unstable and I had a hard time reflash to Eclair. :/
Will wait for MIUI, i love the launcher.
I have been using Telus Lite for the last few months, with general O/C at 900mhz and i'm very pleased. Average battery life i can stretch is 2 days with about 5-6 hours of wifi use.
I dont have a data plan, so take that into consideration, and screen brightness is always minimum. dont use it as an mp3 player. About 1 hour of talk in 2 days, about 30 - 50 texts / day. And i'm always using my calendar and making notes on the device.
Very pleased.
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i tried most of the roms available here, maybe all .
i searched for the fastest mod, that could let my milestone look superior, and high end. no teering , no slow skipping trough screens, a drawer that wont jerk when scrolling trow apps.
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this is the results of my research:
Eclair
The fastest eclair mod is most likely Telus Lite rom, i have never seen a rom fast as this one.
only problem: it will get slower with k9mail + pure messenger widget
so i skipped to froyo roms, i thought maybe the ram and overall system managment would be improved. :/ not really. maybe a little bit.
Froyo
The fastest froyo mod was cronos 1.5 , i waited passionly for v1.6 but it was in my oppnion too buggy. maybe just on my phone :/
now i am using the newest cyanogenmod, but i am still not satisfied. maybe i am expecting too much of a milestone overclocked to 1.1 ghz
the best batterylife has cronos v1.5
this is how i solved the drawer issue ( jerking around no more, maybe just a little tiny little bit):
i did it with the adw launcher, maybe launcher pro will give the same result.
in portraint mode, 3 apps in arow, in landscape mode 4 apps in a row, and drawer background just a little bit trancparent, if too much it seems to get laggy again, maybe my imagination...
if there is someone out there, that could make a froyo rom, that is slim, and fast as telsus lite rom, it would make the number one rom on xda developers.
like i said i tested all roms with a cpu frequenzy of 1.1 ghz. but still no setisfying
result.
do anybody know who made the telus lite rom, and would he do a froyo lite rom ?
jlove I agree on the Telus, I had been using it as my first rom after testing every eclair/bastardized froyos. very fast, stable.
however now as froyo (beta) came out I switched to FroyoMODv1... for me it is still best Froyo build as it seems very clean. No fancy addons. I love vanilla roms.
btw I didn't try cronos - and I won't. It is month till official release of Froyo. I'm just waiting with MODv1...
btw I always use the launcher pro - it seems as the most fluent of those I've tried (google default, adw, MIUI).
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do anybody know who made the telus lite rom, and would he do a froyo lite rom ?
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Too bad telus isn't vanilla, it has it's own font and theme black icons and everything - both are big minus for usability.
I'm craving for very fast very clean tweaked rom.
Personally I have all animations turned off just to gain some performance. Isn't there anyone here who wants just pure speed(+battery life ofc)? Any animation, any fancy feature that I don't REALLY need is an obstacle when I try to get the job done on my phone.
when is the official froyo coming out for the asia region, or perhaps it doesn't matter cos everybody can still download them of the motorola sbf files website?
What's sad is people have given up on making 2.1 ROMs good. A lot of them had bugs here and there. CM6 is probably one of the best managed ROMs out there, but I know many people aren't ready to commit to Froyo.
I myself have sacrificed battery life for Nadlabak's awesome support/updates. I do wish I could get a bit more juice out of daily use though.
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like everyday, since i brought my milestone, i was digging for gold in xda developers . i found some good constalation a couple of days ago.
i have now a system that is running fast and stable, and the drawer isnt laggy anymore.
the best results i get with latest roms out here:
CM6 + OH!NO update * 1,1 ghz + launcherproplus 8.1.1 + widgets² = very fast stable, and very smotth. ----> better then an iphone
launcherproplus : Search it and you will find it forsure _' )
i searched for long and this is the setting, that had setisfied me. its the best result you can get for now.!!!!!!!
good luck
Hi guys,
I've flashed CM6.1 ROM (Froyo 2.2) to my Milestone a few weeks ago - and was enjoying it till one day I accidentaly hard reset and noticed that I have also removed the default launcher from ROM. So I had black screen and nothing appears after the phone was booted.
Well I could just have copied a launcher over from the PC, but I decided to restore my Nandroid backup.
To my surprise, the backup was the stock 2.1 Eclair ROM. So I was frustrated a bit to lose Froyo.
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
I wanted to ask - is it true that Eclair 2.1 IS faster than Froyo, or did I flashed a slow Froyo ROM? In terms of memory management is great too. I can open more apps and keep them running than I can remember with my Froyo. With Froyo, I've encountered like foreground app close, and changing from one app to another will eventually killed the last app and had to load it back.
Or can someone recommend a very fast and good memory management of Froyo ROM for my milestone? Or it's really - Ok let's cut the crap and go straight to the point - Eclair that's leading in this race (and I've won?). Edit : The Eclair won!
I do miss the Flash 10 on Froyo... sigh, if only I can get it on Eclair still.
Thanks.
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Update: Well it's not a true-not-true anymore but it is TRUE that Eclair does run much faster than Froyo or Gingerbread. I'm using Telus 5.2 Eclair and I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting (it's like Milestone on steroid!). See my post on 2nd page. And no I'm not with Telus or related or what, but I highly recommend this ROM to Eclair users out there. This is definitely a keeper! I've also covered about the battery life and tempreture on the post on 2nd page. Have a read, and don't hesitate to flash Telus, you will never regret it. Now I am more hesitate to flash over to Froyo or Gingerbread even more after using it! Hey, I feel like I can outbeat a Tegra even
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Update: First of all I'm renaming this thread from "Milestone 2.1 Eclair faster than 2.2 Froyo" to "Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone".
I saw some users asking about where this Telus 5.2 Eclair is.. so I'm providing the link here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717377.
No I am not associated with the dev who made that ROM or whatsoever, and I am not duplicating the thread. Merely suggesting the fastest 2.1 ROM available (currently), for those who are not the 'wait and obey' users of Milestone, but to the 'commander' users of this device. Continuous discussions about which is the fastest 2.1 ROMs are still welcomed here, and of course, any ROM comparison discussions with other various versions (eg. 1.6, 2.2, 2.3, 3.0??) should head over here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887
I haven't used Eclair in a long time but I remember how clad i was when I flashed a custom ROM for a first time (some Cm7 nightly) and on my case my milestone felt blazing fast even with bad memory management and I "promised" I never go back to stock eclair and have kept that promise. I'm now running FroyoMod 2.6.1b and this is probably the most stable rom I've ever had and if u haven't tried it then u should because it just might me the rom that ur looking for when it comes to stability and capabilities.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
Hey MakeW00t , sounds interesting. But fast alone isn't enough for me. Good memory management plays a vital role as well. I just hate to see vital apps (eg. navigational software) got killed just because I had to read my SMS or check a few things on the calendar!
Anyway, thanks for your recommendation. Maybe I'll flash FroyoMod 2.6.1b when I feel Eclair is not enough.
I've been through that before "I never go back to stock eclair" But now that I had it back.. I can't see any reason NOT to..
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Hi guys,
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
Thanks.
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Same here, it is nice to have a PHONE again, and Eclair makes it real... Sad but true... I tried and tested almost all mods available on this forum (including official stock froyo update and Froyo Mod 2.6, which unfortunately also appears to be frustrating and sluggish after only 2-3 days of intensive use, without too much apps installed at all!)... must admit that my personal favorite is MIUI by lalit79 (recommendations, great job done lalit!), but after some serious stability/speed issues in latest version (overheating during battery charge, ext2/4 not working whatever method I tried, FCs), Eclair is the ultimate choice of the moment (I need a stable and reliable device, for calls and long bussines emails, no crashes or FC-s or reboots)... at least, until a new MIUI version is ready... If you already didn't, try rooting and overclocking eclair with milestone OC (@900/56) - it gives a nice final touch of ultimate speed and joy of "Phone Without Compromise" (and official froyo is one BIG compromise, if you ask me)....
cheers!
Hi mcekic. Well as a matter of fact I did OC my Milestone using Milestone Overclock to 1000Mhz, 69vsel. Battery life is ok so I guess I'll stick with it for a while (If not I will use your 900/56, should give me more battery life - logically).
I believe I have the same needs as you, to have a real PHONE again!
Don't get me wrong, Froyo does have all the extra functionalities (I miss App2SD and Flash 10 the most - but I heard that this is possible on Eclair as well? Havn't done my homework yet in regards to this) but in the end, all that functionalities goes to waste when the performance is sacrificed.
I have also OC'ed the phone to 1Ghz when I was running Froyo. But I think the main culprit is the memory management. It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!
Guys, I think this thread would fit in this one very well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887
Roms: Continuous comparison of milestone roms and updates
well s0ulreaver, now that you mentioned it, I do think this discussion would very well belong there.
Can any mod possibly merge this?
I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.
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It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
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yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
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Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!
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i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.
Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.
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I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.
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You mean stock Froyo ROM from Motorola? No I haven't tried it yet, but I saw this guy here posted Froyo stock running flash 10.2 on his Milestone overclocked to 1.2Ghz and it runs great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCspAW8RzA
i have never saw flash video that plays so smooth on the Milestone - and am happy to see one! I'm gonna try Froyo stock when i have the time, but of course, I need to do a Nandroid backup first
What's a DSI?
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yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.
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Well, I believe you're an experienced custom froyo ROM user then. For me I didn't have the time to flash that many froyo ROMs to test. But hey, I guess you've saved my time by sharing your experience with it right
Cool, I should not be doing much this weekend so I think I'll make up some time to flash telus lite 5.2 - The most important thing for me is to have a reliable phone, and a responsive one as well. Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill. Will try it out and give my opinion on it later. Thanks!
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Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.
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Hey I was running on 1Ghz 69vsel, now trying 800Mhz 58vsel. Hopefully there is a noticeable difference in the battery life! Thanks hp13!
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Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill.
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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.
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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.
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Thanks, hey, as a matter of fact, let me try this on my stock 2.1 ROM.
A bit update on my 2.1 stock, when downloading big files over 100MB via browser and saving to SDCard, my phone will eventually be in the 'sleep of death' mode where it sleep and will never turn on again - unless I remove and reinsert the battery of course. Not sure what's causing this.
Update : It was my MicroSD card which been causing this. It's corrupted somehow or rather ...
Another issue is that when I record videos and battery is low, during the end of recording, the phone will hang. Tried this several times when the battery is low (about 15% charge left), and confirmed that is the issue - why? possible cause maybe not enough power to process / save these videos? Snapping pictures works ok. On some devices (especially Samsungs), camera and video function will be denied access when battery is low. I guess this could be the issue unless anyone else have not run into this problem before?
hmm now i really want to go back to eclair, cm7 is to big for the milestone
Indeed, Telus Lite 5.2 is the way to go. Very good stability and speed.
Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting. I feel that I can outbeat a Tegra even! Hahahaha..
The phone (compared to stock 2.1) is also cooler when tethering. I used to get up around 46c - 57c, with the Telus I'm getting like 34c - 47c with wifi tether on.
In terms of battery life. After 13hrs 10minutes, my battery went down from 100% to 50%. Edge was turned on all the time. 15minutes of Wifi tether with HSDPA on. 30minutes of fb and websurfing. 15 minutes on Papago GPS. Some SMS and whatsapp plus yahoo messenger runnin all the time as services. Not bad.
Highly recommended for Eclair users!
AFAIK though, nobody has been able to get app2ext working in Telus Lite.
People have gotten app2ext work with stock eclair though. (1 of these days, I plan to go back to rooted, OC'd, GOT sbf eclair. I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.)
I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.
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GOT Eclair is Stock Eclair, it is a Leak of the official Firmaware. only change is the vulnerable recovery afaik.
rest of GOT specific modifications are applied through OR! was one of the best Eclair FW's i tried (for the first time my alarm and geolocation service were working ; )
Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
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yeah i tried Eclair too again, rly a difference in speed, but some features brought me back to CM6.
imo there are good reasons to go back and stay at eclair, but there are also good reasons to stay on froyo tbh.
+speed speed speed
+multitasking
+battery life
-no flash
-old google apps some can't be updated (gmail, youtube)
-no "2 finger Map Rotation Maps"