All,
Hopefully someone has seen this before... I have two google accounts, one for my business (google domain account) the other personal (standard gmail account). Because a lot of my phone contacts are business related I keep my phone address book in my business account but my Market Apps purchases are from my personal account..
The setup works perfect except when it comes to the address book contacts..
I have found if I add my personal account first and then my business account the contact is associated via my personal account even although I have not enabled address book syncing..
If I add my business account first then my personal account second already paid for apps in the marketplace are no longer available..
All in all pretty frustrating... I am guessing this is a bug anyone else seen this or better still got a nice work around...
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Hi,
I know some of you have suffered from disappearing mail when using WM to download mail from Gmail via POP and I believe there have been some work arounds (using recent: and/or setting your WM6 to not download the entire smg), but I've never been really satisfied with them. Well, since I have a TILT, thought I'd ask my fellow Tilt folks to try this out.
In any case, I tried this workaround and it seems to be working. If someone would be nice enough to double check my steps to see if this works for you, this just might solve the whole GMail/POP/WM6 mishaps.
BTW, as a discalimer, I don't know if someone's come up with this type of solution!
Ok, we'll need two Gmail accounts, one that is your PRIMARY-GMAIL account and then you have your SECONDARY-GMAIL account (bear with me, it'll become clear why in a bit).
Typically, your PRIMARY-GMAIL is the account you receive all of your mail and from which reply from.
Your SECONDARY-GMAIL account (either create one or use one that you already have) is the account from which you'll download mail from with your Windows Mobile device.
Setup your PRIMARY-GMAIL account to "forward a copy of your mail" to your SECONDARY-GMAIL account and "keep Gmail's copy in the inbox"
Enable POP on your SECONDARY-GMAIL account.
On your Windows Mobile device, create a new email account and manually configure to download mail from your SECONDARY-GMAIL account and set it up to download 50kb.
On your Windows Mobile device, set up the OUTGOING server to NOT use the same credentials and then put in the credentials of your PRIMARY-GMAIL account.
That's it! When you receive email to your PRIMARY-GMAIL account, it's forwarded to your SECONDARY-GMAIL account. Your WM device will download mail from this Gmail account. When you reply from your WM device, your WM device will use the credentials of your PRIMARY-GMAIL account and because of the way GMail's interface works, it uses your PRIMARY-GMAIL account as the SENT FROM. Thus to the rest of the world, you downloaded/received it off your PRIMARY-GMAIL account but to you, it's downloaded from your SECONDARY-GMAIL account, but replied/sent from your PRIMARY-GMAIL account. You should be able to download/receive the entire message now without fear of email disappearing from your PRIMARY-GMAIL account.
Sorry, it might sound confusing and convoluted, but this seems to be working for me. No more worries of disappearing messages, etc etc. Would anyone else mind testing this out?
Thoughts?
Thanks!
pretty good workaround. I just use IMAP however.
Um yeah, why use POP when IMAP works now? Pop SUCKS!
My school uses gmail to supply our email..
So even though our account is not @gmail.com
Could I still use it for my primary account on my nexus one?
Snow_fox said:
My school uses gmail to supply our email..
So even though our account is not @gmail.com
Could I still use it for my primary account on my nexus one?
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I would imagine so. You should be able to use any Google account.
Be careful using a Google Apps account. If you ever leave the school you'll need to migrate everything over (and I don't even know if this is possible). Instead set up a personal Gmail account, and then add the school as a secondary.
artesea said:
Be careful using a Google Apps account. If you ever leave the school you'll need to migrate everything over (and I don't even know if this is possible). Instead set up a personal Gmail account, and then add the school as a secondary.
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Good advice since I think your paid apps are connected to the account used to buy them. You're not gonna be in school forever, so create your own personal account.
if i'm not mistaken we keep our account pretty much forever..
That was how it worked pre google anyway.. I dunno if that changed or not though
i have used google apps account as primary account before. However, here are a few things you should be careful about
1) As mentioned above, purchases are tied to primary account only. When i moved to gmail as primary account, i had to repurchase apps
2) Gtalk supports primary account only. So your primary account should be the account you use to sync contacts. else gtalk integration won't be of any use to you.
3) Google voice works on gmail account only. So if you want google voice to integrate with contacts, you have to use gmail as primary account
4) Fortunately FROYO allows syncing calendars on secondary account, but if you are 2.1, you can only sync primary account
Overall, I will advise you to use gmail account. you never know what features you may need in the future and gmail account will always have better support than google apps.
arkavat said:
i have used google apps account as primary account before. However, here are a few things you should be careful about
1) As mentioned above, purchases are tied to primary account only. When i moved to gmail as primary account, i had to repurchase apps
2) Gtalk supports primary account only. So your primary account should be the account you use to sync contacts. else gtalk integration won't be of any use to you.
3) Google voice works on gmail account only. So if you want google voice to integrate with contacts, you have to use gmail as primary account
4) Fortunately FROYO allows syncing calendars on secondary account, but if you are 2.1, you can only sync primary account
Overall, I will advise you to use gmail account. you never know what features you may need in the future and gmail account will always have better support than google apps.
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I, too, have a school-related gApps account that I need to relinquish next year and a personal Gmail account. However, due to the way my organization's gApps is set up, I need to use it as my primary account in order to fully utilize its features. (Specifically, I share my personal Gmail's calendars/mail/docs into my gApps calendar/mail/docs; the reverse is not fully possible with our organization's gApps setup.)
So anyway, even though I'm on Froyo, I have my gApps account as the primary for the reasons above since I originally set up the phone on 2.1 and my calendar is on my gApps account. This basically sucks, though, since all of my paid apps and other personal Android-related information (Wi-Fi password backups, bookmarks, etc.) reside on my "temporary" account.
However, I find that Google Voice, Gallery/Picasa, etc. still work fine as long as I have my personal Gmail account listed as a secondary. I can even switch between my personal and gApps account in Maps.
In summary, if at all possible, I also recommend using a personal account as primary. If you can't, then you can join me in hoping that Google eventually provides some way to transfer paid apps and settings...
I tried the method of settings- applications - clear the date from all google related apps - this but it doesn't work.
Changed also the gmail password so the SGS can't log in... Doesn't work.
Whatever I do - I get a red triangle in the top left corner asking for my google password.
Any ideas?
Frankyl - its disappointing that a user needs to go into so much trouble to change an email...
just go into Seetings > Accounts & Sync
then you can Add new accounts or Edit exisiting accounts
x4p3gsu said:
I tried the method of settings- applications - clear the date from all google related apps - this but it doesn't work.
Changed also the gmail password so the SGS can't log in... Doesn't work.
Whatever I do - I get a red triangle in the top left corner asking for my google password.
Any ideas?
Frankyl - its disappointing that a user needs to go into so much trouble to change an email...
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If you are trying to edit the main account that you signed in with first.. Basically NO! Tried it myself as I couldn't choose which google chat account it signed with as I have 2. Had to factory reset and enter the 2 accounts in the right order first being the one that had all my calendar detail and my google chat account that had all my contacts in.
that doesn't sounds quite right, i'm able to delete/edit/add any account listed in the Accounts & Sync page in settings
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that doesn't sounds quite right, i'm able to delete/edit/add any account listed in the Accounts & Sync page in settings
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When you click edit it only lets you change the sync options for that account... but say like me you have 2 gmail accounts and you link them both the first one will sync your calendar the second account will then not give you the option to sync the calendar... also only then lets you sign into things like market place and google chat with the first account ... with no available option to switch accounts... I spoke to samsung and they said the same you must delete the head account (very first account used to access market place or activate anything on the handset). and to do anything other than adjust the sync settings you must factory reset it even tells you that if you try to delete the account!! try it!!
i'm sync-ing calendar with 2 Gmail account 1 for work 1 for personal
each of them have its own sets of contacts and calendars, they each one show up in different colour.
on the personal gmail account i event sync the picasa web album
then on top of that i also sync my yahoo account calendar and contacts, as well as my MSN
but MSN can only sync contacts no calendar option for in hotmail/live accounts
my twitter account can only sync contacts as well
but facebook account can sync both calendar and contacts
and emails also sync across gmails/yahoo/msn accounts
as well as the IM for gtalk/yahoo/msn
Are you using something other than the stock android calendar because with mine whatever gmail account I signed in first with I had option for sync on the calendar but the second only contacts and gmail.... but with regards to mine, I also had to do it as all my card details were linked to the second account and I didn't want them linked to the other! therefor I had to for the purposes of buying paid apps, by accessing the market place with the other account..... and there is no way of switching accounts for that!
i'm using the Samsung Apps (email, calendar, IM) that came with the phone
it's quite good, better than i expected
in the calendar each of my accounts have its own colour, so i know which Calendar entry comes from which Sync Account
this is like sooooooooo much better than what i used to have in Palm, Blackberry or Windows Mobile, those 3 are horrible, it was very difficult to have personal + work account in the same phone
but with Android, it's like a dream come true, everything is detailed to its own account, but all visible in 1 calendar
maybe you guys need to upgrade to the latest
Social Hub Push Email and IM
more details http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7820042
I tried it myself - and it doesn't work.
I'm using a stock 2.1 firmware with a Dutch device.
Does not work - frustrating.
eyal123 said:
I tried it myself - and it doesn't work.
I'm using a stock 2.1 firmware with a Dutch device.
Does not work - frustrating.
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Yeah as I said even if people dont beleive me... other than being able to edit the sync settings of the head account... There is no way of physically changing what the head account is or change the address of the head account. Yes you can add others but they will never become the head account. As I said had to reset mine to change it too.
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Yeah as I said even if people dont beleive me... other than being able to edit the sync settings of the head account... There is no way of physically changing what the head account is or change the address of the head account. Yes you can add others but they will never become the head account. As I said had to reset mine to change it too.
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This is my experience also. The first entered Gmail account is the only fully functional one the others have limited sync. Many hours and concluded reset is the only fix. Now I will have to repurchase some apps because the Market only talks to the first email account!!!! At least apple allows these basic changes. People have been complaining about this for ages when will google listen? I brought an Android device over Apple iPhone because I hated the lock in Apple does and needing iTunes for everything but find the Android is worse for useability. The only gain over iPhone so far is the Samsung has a bigger display and easier to type or swype. Maybe I am missing something and Android is better but not convinced at all at the moment. Unfortunatly you only find out after owning a device for a few weeks the limitations.
Well, I haven't seen anyone successfully replace the NC contacts app with the generic Android one, but I found something almost as good ... if you're willing to pay.
If you download Touchdown for Exchange from the market (demo version, have to pay to use it for more than 30 days), you can set up your gmail address as an exchange account (login is the full e-mail address, server is m.google.com). It'll sync contacts w/the Exchange server ... and by default, sync those with your "phone's' contact list.
I've tried it, and confirmed autocomplete for contacts now works in gmail.
Some caveats:
* While Touchdown can handle more than one exchange account, it does so with "profiles." You switch between them -- and when you're in one profile, you'll only have access to the contacts from that one. I've got my phone set up with both my personal gmail and my office's google apps account ... so now I'm using Soocial to sync their contacts (non-ideal), and having touchdown just bring down the office stuff.
* You'll want to tweak your e-mail settings to minimize how much data you're having the device get. No need to pull down your inbox again if gmail already is. I have it set not to get message bodies, to sync the minimum amount of days, etc.
* It's a paid app, so you'll have to pony up the cash. And although I'd previously purchased a license key via the market on my phone, I'm not seeing the option for the license key (protected app unsupported by the current market hack?) showing up in the market for my NC. You can also enter a license key, but I'll be trying copying over my valid key from my phone and seeing what happens ...
Nice:
* It handles the calendar well as well ... so no need to bring in the Calendar.apk or CorpCalendar.apk if you don't want to.
Soocial non-ideal
Hi Wordsmith,
Just a quick question why you find Soocial to be non-ideal? I'm part of the Soocial team and we try to listen as much as we can to our users or potential users. Sounds like you are looking for a one stop place to have your address book synced. In what area do you find Soocial lacking now for it to be non-ideal.
Thanks for trying and using Soocial. ;-)
stefanfountain said:
Hi Wordsmith,
Just a quick question why you find Soocial to be non-ideal? I'm part of the Soocial team and we try to listen as much as we can to our users or potential users. Sounds like you are looking for a one stop place to have your address book synced. In what area do you find Soocial lacking now for it to be non-ideal.
Thanks for trying and using Soocial. ;-)
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I juist wasn't really looking to have these address books synced in the first place, but I AM looking to access both from my NC, as I do from my Android phone. Since I didn't have a great solution to that, I'm using your product to include all my contacts in both of my address books.
I've used touchdown for about a year now and it's never let me down. Best exchange program hands down. Thanks for the tip to use it to sync Google contacts!
FYI: you can sync only contacts if you choose and the server is m.google.com w/ssl in case anyone needs it.
I am working on test a situation and would like others' input and advice.
I am working with Exchange 2003 on my server. I am setting up gSyncIt (sync to Google's servers) to synchronize the Public Contacts to a Google account now for testing. I would like to setup a separate Google account on Android phones (Bionic and Razr for this test) and be able to see the separate Contact Lists for the Private Google account (personal) and also the Company Google account (public) using an app from the Google Play (formerly Android Market).
I am curious if anyone has done this before and what app would work well to be able to see different contacts lists without changing the view settings of the original app that comes with the phones. Most people are only synchronizing their private contacts and that I do with Touchdown. I am more curious about getting a way to synchronize the Public Contacts.