are you bored of your iPhone yet? are the features getting old? do you miss windows mobile? Do you have anything to look forward to?
should have kept your Kaiser...
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I'd rather have a kaiser of an iphone. Although, I'm pretty sure people are able to make some kind of software for the iPhone now. hacking it or something.
I had the iPhone and I came to the kaiser. Its called jailbreaking, once you do that an app called installer shows up and you install apps from there.
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I had the iPhone and I came to the kaiser. Its called jailbreaking, once you do that an app called installer shows up and you install apps from there.
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1.1.3 is full of apps now. I actually use the iPhone a little bit more than the Kaiser today. Just because I wanted to see what's all the fuss was about with 1.1.3. But hey iPhone and Kaiser are both great devices, that can not be compared.
You can compare a Kaiser vs. Touch, or iPhone vs. Prada. Both are very different devices. Those who say same old functions, what do you mean same ole functions, both devices are packed with apps.
IBTL
iPhone = silly cell phone that pretends to be and costs like a PDA
Ha.
we3zy said:
1.1.3 is full of apps now. I actually use the iPhone a little bit more than the Kaiser today. Just because I wanted to see what's all the fuss was about with 1.1.3. But hey iPhone and Kaiser are both great devices, that can not be compared.
You can compare a Kaiser vs. Touch, or iPhone vs. Prada. Both are very different devices. Those who say same old functions, what do you mean same ole functions, both devices are packed with apps.
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SDK is out already?? I had it last month so, nothing new to me.
Kaiser way better
Anyone who gets a iphone is a very silly person.....Kaiser has so many apps. and programs that iphone doesn't
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mike
I'll take it farther - I'll take Windows over Mac any day.
Heck I'd rather use Win98 than latest Mac OS.
And this one time, at band camp..............
I would take Lepord over Vista and WM over OSX Mobile. Mac's win in the computer's side but not on the Mobile side.
you can keep ur kaiser and ur iphone.........my firefly pwns them both
Ahahaha, like that will ever happen. . .
haha..
the iphone...
i had 1.. also my uncle had 1..
we played... we had fun!!!...
but....
then it came sooo repetitive...
the same things always...
then i sold it...
and my uncle too =) ...
haha..
is just funny.. i had both devices..
well i have my kaiser because it has more apps, productivity and some Business Man Style.. iphone was for me more like a psp than a pda =)
*too the first 2 repliers**
i made this thread not to gain any new apps or prosper from, but just for talk. to hear opinions and compare the 2. yea there are other threads like it, but i dont find this thread pointless, perhaps it's just the wording I used.
so it appears most people went with the iphone and then they realized everything was the same. yea there are apps for Mac OS but not enough to make you wanna keep the phone. the emulators for the iphone arent that great either, all screen and not really stable.
ok.. for that is the off-topic so..
maybe a "Social Room" will solve things like this
i.e: a social room in kaiser section for kaiser users =)
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ok.. for that is the off-topic so..
maybe a "Social Room" will solve things like this
i.e: a social room in kaiser section for kaiser users =)
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yes, but it will have 500303939 pages, which would get annoying...
ive seen another forum where on the front page there is some sort of IM thing, that would be nice. users just talk on the front page.
yes that would be great!!!.. it can be done with java.. can we do this mods? or admins?
btw, awesome page comparing the Iphone and the Nokia E70
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone (NSFW)
hey guys...im plannin to buy an iphone 3g....does anybody know how to unlock it....
Welcome to forums
I´m sure this is a joke right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553115&page=2
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What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?"
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I owned an iPhone from October to January, then downgraded to an iPod Touch from February to March (or April) and went back on Windows Mobile by May or so.
It pretty much comes down to this: If you want a phone that's super pretty, super usable, super fast and that JUST WORKS, you get an iPhone. In doing so, you have to play by Apple's rules, which is a consequence of having a phone that works so incredibly well.
However, if you want a device that puts YOU in control, from choice of device to choice of UI and application development, then you go Android or Windows Mobile. Additionally, if you need a "true" business device (sorry, folks; a virtual keyboard doesn't cut it at the moment) that works well with Exchange and helps you get things done, then you stick to Windows Mobile or Blackberry (which is just as closed in as the iPhone is).
I loved the iPhone, but the virtual keyboard and "closed-ness" of the platform turned me off to it. Further, I realized that after jailbreaking and customizing it, it becomse just as slow and unreliable as any other smartphone. I also really, really, really wanted additional storage space. (8GB is NOT enough.) Windows Mobile is definitely old hat in this game, but the fact that it still works incredibly well and still offers a very useful tool set (for me) makes it the right choice.
oh dude, u might be typing iphone-developers.com
shyamk26 said:
hey guys...im plannin to buy an iphone 3g....does anybody know how to unlock it....
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http://modmyi.com/forums/jailbreak-downgrading-upgrading/
1- Cannot install any program on my phone such as SSH client I use for work and nothing on the market place.
2- No GPS with direction software.
3- Cannot sync my device with outlook 2010 on my computer.
4- RTL or BIDI languages show character by character and I cannot read websites in those languages.
5- Opera mobile was my choice of surfing the web but now cannot be used.
6- Not much choice of ringtones or themes.
7- I do not want to use any pirated software but this is not what I expected. I feel trapped in Microsoft powered HTC jail and am very concerned about my privacy.
The device works fast, is responsive and neat but I consider not buying HTC mobile products anymore.
wow. you just became an XDA member just to post your rants on HTC?
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1- Cannot install any program on my phone such as SSH client I use for work and nothing on the market place.
2- No GPS with direction software.
3- Cannot sync my device with outlook 2010 on my computer.
4- RTL or BIDI languages show character by character and I cannot read websites in those languages.
5- Opera mobile was my choice of surfing the web but now cannot be used.
6- Not much choice of ringtones or themes.
7- I do not want to use any pirated software but this is not what I expected. I feel trapped in Microsoft powered HTC jail and am very concerned about my privacy.
The device works fast, is responsive and neat but I consider not buying HTC mobile products anymore.
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wow. you just became an XDA member just to post your rants on HTC?
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He's got a valid point but I wouldn't blame HTC. Those problems are on all Windows Phone 7 phones. HTC makes great phones. Buy an Android phone dude. I have the HD7 but I also kept all my Android phones I've bought over the years. My HD7 stays put away in my pocket unless the battery in my Android phone dies or I wanna watch something on Netflix and it will stay in my pocket or put away until HTC/Microsoft/T-Mobile release a MAJOR update to fix or add all the features I need in my phone. I have a feeling it will remain in my pocket for quite some time tho.
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wow. you just became an XDA member just to post your rants on HTC?
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That is not the point and these are not rants.
If this helps others or points htc/ms to do something, i would again register to post.
8- Battery life is real short. I read somewhere that changing the backgound to full black will improve the battery life and it does but wifi, 3g, screen light and light background are battery killers! I used to have much more battery life on my old diamond 2!
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He's got a valid point but I wouldn't blame HTC. Those problems are on all Windows Phone 7 phones. HTC makes great phones. Buy an Android phone dude. I have the HD7 but I also kept all my Android phones I've bought over the years. My HD7 stays put away in my pocket unless the battery in my Android phone dies or I wanna watch something on Netflix and it will stay in my pocket or put away until HTC/Microsoft/T-Mobile release a MAJOR update to fix or add all the features I need in my phone. I have a feeling it will remain in my pocket for quite some time tho.
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Thank you for your post. To be honest I do not like Google much and think they are not clear about what they do with the information they gather over people and their activities.
Droid phone as you mentiond do have many good points but a lot of my points also applies to phones like desire hd.
I guss it is about users againt big guys or better said being jailled by big guys. Take IPhone as an example. Microsoft mobile was the only one that was not a warden but looks like competition drives them that way. It is a shame. They just do not or do not like to think if they are good the customer will stay with them.
I wonder if there was this much crying when iPhone came out?
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I wonder if there was this much crying when iPhone came out?
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exactly.... nothing is perfect on birth...everything needs versions and versions...
be it software or hardware...everything will become perfect or nearly perfect in time. ( for example : windows xp was crap , then with sp2 ...BAM!!!)ok nothing else is coming to my head..but you got the idea , right ??
with updates and revised mobile bodies , any mobile can top.,..
just give HTC or MS ( or any other company ) some time for their updates, after they review all the positive negative feedback....
Although you'r a first time poster on XDA, i'm sure your familiar with Forum's in general and forum rules. The main one being READ THE STICKIES AND SEARCH BEFORE POSTING.
All of what you have said has been convered a dozen times and is also consolidated with the other "Features" which the OS is lacking in a Stickie at the top of this forum (here) AND in the WP7 Generic Forum (Here or Here).
As for some of your concerns, why are you concerned about your privacy? Please explain. The "changing the background colour to black" won't help you with an HD7, as it uses an SLCD screen, meaning no matter whether it's white or black, the backlight will still be on. This is only relevant for LED screens where a black screen means the pixels are not illuminate and therefore consuming no power (however when they're white, they consume up to 3x as much power as an LCD screen). My HD7 provides me with about 36 hours of charge, with screen brightness set to auto, and wifi/bluetooth/gsm all turned on. I could go a day and a half without a charge however i've always charged smartphones every night anyway as they all consume alot of power.
Other than that, welcome to the forum. As other's have said, the OS is only 4 months old. Give it time. The features you want will become available sooner or later.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
I know that a lot of my points are posted and discussed in other post but I thought it might be good to put them together as a sort of complaint.
Apple's IPhone mobile OS was new and I can see 3 and 4 share a lot of features. With Google you know that you will have to do syncs online. I had an idea about what he wanted and WP7 was disappointing. However I have to wait and see what will happen after MS and/or HTC work on HD7.
I have to sync my calendar and contacts with my live account and this is a huge lake of privacy in WP7.
Given the fact that I have paid for a lot of apps on my diamond 2 such as SSH client, VoIP softphone, GPS, I thought just like software on my desktop I will be able to use most of them or there will be an upgrade for my HD7 WP7.
I sit crossing my fingers and hope big guys think about users.
Windows Phone 7 is clearly not for you. Return the phone and get something else.
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Thanks everyone for your replies.
I know that a lot of my points are posted and discussed in other post but I thought it might be good to put them together as a sort of complaint.
Apple's IPhone mobile OS was new and I can see 3 and 4 share a lot of features. With Google you know that you will have to do syncs online. I had an idea about what he wanted and WP7 was disappointing. However I have to wait and see what will happen after MS and/or HTC work on HD7.
I have to sync my calendar and contacts with my live account and this is a huge lake of privacy in WP7.
Given the fact that I have paid for a lot of apps on my diamond 2 such as SSH client, VoIP softphone, GPS, I thought just like software on my desktop I will be able to use most of them or there will be an upgrade for my HD7 WP7.
I sit crossing my fingers and hope big guys think about users.
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dude what do u want??? every one knew what WP7 can and can not do.... u still bought the device and now u are blaming the MS and HTC.... diamond 2 screen and hd 7 screen are two diffrent worlds, size is very diffrent... if you want to save battery, use auto screen brightness, do not push email....
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Thanks everyone for your replies.
I know that a lot of my points are posted and discussed in other post but I thought it might be good to put them together as a sort of complaint.
Apple's IPhone mobile OS was new and I can see 3 and 4 share a lot of features. With Google you know that you will have to do syncs online. I had an idea about what he wanted and WP7 was disappointing. However I have to wait and see what will happen after MS and/or HTC work on HD7.
I have to sync my calendar and contacts with my live account and this is a huge lake of privacy in WP7.
Given the fact that I have paid for a lot of apps on my diamond 2 such as SSH client, VoIP softphone, GPS, I thought just like software on my desktop I will be able to use most of them or there will be an upgrade for my HD7 WP7.
I sit crossing my fingers and hope big guys think about users.
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Unfortunately, it seems you didn't do enough research before making the jump to Windows Phone 7.
Forget about the phone hardware itself, Windows Phone 7 is a totally different platform than Windows Mobile 6.5 and below. Two totally separate products. Your complaints are not complaints because they are all issues that Microsoft is well aware of and that everyone has discussed before. This is a brand new product, and of course things won't be perfect and won't have all the features you demand.
As for the software you previously purchased, that's not a fault of Microsoft as they did not develop such software. That falls on the developers of your software. They make the decision whether to develop software compatible with Windows Phone 7, and they make the decision to offer you free upgrades or not. That is not something Microsoft can control. So regardless of the platform, when you buy software, you are at the mercy of those developers.
And in regards to your privacy and information through Windows Live, you are not required to sign in with a Windows Live ID. You can skip that part of the setup process and use the basic features of your phone. But you miss out on many of the phone's features of course. So that is totally up to you.
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Hellz no! And if there was this much crying nonbody could pull steve jobs' sack out of their face long enough to show you their tears.
I understand the OP's issues... as minor as they are, but sweet Jesus it has been beat to death. Nobody needs empty praise, but the unecessary crying over what amounts to nothing, or temporary shortcomings needs to stop.
Or better yet, it could be worse. Here we're wanting a FREE software update. With apple you'll be waiting till next year to buy a whole new phone so you can get something that another phone has had for the past 5 years.
And with Android (as cool as it is) you may or may not even get the latest/greatest updates.
So... uhh, yeah... g'head and dry those tears Homie.
1. MS not release socket support right now yet til Mango update,so no any ssh apps for sure.
2. I think that from above.
3. Maybe TouchXperience can help you.
youtube.com/watch?v=aAgd-iTBlGs
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5. Because of no socket support, any browser must be use an IE engine to communicate web browser, so no need to use an other browser.
6. I think I see this answer in "Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking section".
7. If MS not awaking right now, we have no choice, because we know WP7 is good but not perfect yet, so MS should be hurry up.
I have HD7 too but I'm no comment it's good or not to buy.
Because bought before.. played before.
Thank you all for you posts.
Have to admit that I did not do my homework before buying a HD7.
Having said this, it is not a real excuse just to say WP7 is different to 6.5 and below. It is like you like ice-cream and try to buy one but are presented with yoghurt in the shop and the shop owner says you needed to do a research before asking for ice-cream!
Having said all this, I got an e-mail from HTC that they have forwarded my mail about these point to Microsoft.
It is all up MS what they will decide to do.
Do you think Microsoft decides to take a user point of view into consideration or just like others thinks their new OP is good and will do anything. I guess some of these points will take huge changes to the OS and their marketing plans.
And I should not complain because I had to do more research in advance .
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Thank you all for you posts.
Have to admit that I did not do my homework before buying a HD7.
Having said this, it is not a real excuse just to say WP7 is different to 6.5 and below. It is like you like ice-cream and try to buy one but are presented with yoghurt in the shop and the shop owner says you needed to do a research before asking for ice-cream!
Having said all this, I got an e-mail from HTC that they have forwarded my mail about these point to Microsoft.
It is all up MS what they will decide to do.
Do you think Microsoft decides to take a user point of view into consideration or just like others thinks their new OP is good and will do anything. I guess some of these points will take huge changes to the OS and their marketing plans.
And I should not complain because I had to do more research in advance .
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Again, you are comparing ice cream to yogurt. Two totally different things. It is a very valid excuse. If you like ice cream, then you probably shouldn't have bought yogurt, or at least, done some research on yogurt before you bought it so that you knew what you were getting. You can complain all you like, but yogurt isn't going to change into ice cream because you want it to. They may share similarities, but they are not and will never be the same.
Same goes for Windows Mobile/Windows Phone. Windows Mobile 6.5 and Windows Phone 7 are two different platforms going in the two different directions. Microsoft recognized that one path wasn't going anywhere, so it took a look around and went in a different direction. So Windows Phone 7 may share some similarities to Windows Mobile, but they aren't and probably will never be the same product ever.
Both platforms cater to two different audiences, and if you like Windows Mobile 6.5, that's fine. Stick with it. You just have to realize that it is unfortunately a dead platform and you won't see any further updates. Windows Phone 7 is different and takes new and unique steps to a more cohesive and connected platform, and if you don't like it, the simple solution would be to not buy it.
If you are hoping that Windows Phone will become like Windows Mobile, then you should probably give up hope, as Microsoft has made it clear that this platform is something totally different.
The ice cream owner who sold you yogurt didn't tell you he was giving you yogurt.
Microsoft however, made it clear they are now selling cakes instead of ice creams or yogurt.
If you're still looking for ice cream and yogurt, you went to the wrong shop
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The ice cream owner who sold you yogurt didn't tell you he was giving you yogurt.
Microsoft however, made it clear they are now selling cakes instead of ice creams or yogurt.
If you're still looking for ice cream and yogurt, you went to the wrong shop
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cute....
those ppl will never stop coming... and some of them dont even have a WP7 device... the best of all they never get disappointed by what they do, just push their short comings to MS and HTC..
biernes_atrece said:
The ice cream owner who sold you yogurt didn't tell you he was giving you yogurt.
Microsoft however, made it clear they are now selling cakes instead of ice creams or yogurt.
If you're still looking for ice cream and yogurt, you went to the wrong shop
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Cake?!
Well, I think it also was not clear when I bought my HD7 and MS did not make it clear that no other software but only new ones from market place will work on WP7.
Anyways I own a HD7 and am happy with lots of its features. In some features it rocks compare to Iphone or Android phones.
But are you telling me nothing I say makes sense?
Hey guys
Hope all is well
I am an avid Windows Phone user. Love the OS, and the devices. I have written an article that was featured on Yahoo. I just wanted to share it with you guys. Please tell me what you think. Tell me if you agree or disagree with my points. Here is the link
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8210443/5_reasons_why_windows_phone_7_is_in.html?cat=15
regards,
Brett Day
Good post,despite the fact I hate out going hyperlink.I especially like the first reason,cuz my past experience with c# is acceptable,I was messing up with wm6.1 and sql back then.
Still,I am not going to buy a wp7 for now.Cuz I need mass storage,portable hot spot,and real multitask.One more thing I fear is our smartphone is going to end up like our diy pc,if every manufacture is making phones with the same os and same spec,than why manufacture A,not manufacture B?That could bring my editor career to hell
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I loved it man great job
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I loved it man great job
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Thanks man, I really appreciate that.
And in Mango SDK it is shipped with my favourite languages, verbal and computer: Visual Basic in Chinese. YAY
Unlike Android and iOS, I can use all my 12 years of learning in VB for my cell.