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are you bored of your iPhone yet? are the features getting old? do you miss windows mobile? Do you have anything to look forward to?
should have kept your Kaiser...
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I'd rather have a kaiser of an iphone. Although, I'm pretty sure people are able to make some kind of software for the iPhone now. hacking it or something.
I had the iPhone and I came to the kaiser. Its called jailbreaking, once you do that an app called installer shows up and you install apps from there.
~~Tito~~ said:
I had the iPhone and I came to the kaiser. Its called jailbreaking, once you do that an app called installer shows up and you install apps from there.
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1.1.3 is full of apps now. I actually use the iPhone a little bit more than the Kaiser today. Just because I wanted to see what's all the fuss was about with 1.1.3. But hey iPhone and Kaiser are both great devices, that can not be compared.
You can compare a Kaiser vs. Touch, or iPhone vs. Prada. Both are very different devices. Those who say same old functions, what do you mean same ole functions, both devices are packed with apps.
IBTL
iPhone = silly cell phone that pretends to be and costs like a PDA
Ha.
we3zy said:
1.1.3 is full of apps now. I actually use the iPhone a little bit more than the Kaiser today. Just because I wanted to see what's all the fuss was about with 1.1.3. But hey iPhone and Kaiser are both great devices, that can not be compared.
You can compare a Kaiser vs. Touch, or iPhone vs. Prada. Both are very different devices. Those who say same old functions, what do you mean same ole functions, both devices are packed with apps.
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SDK is out already?? I had it last month so, nothing new to me.
Kaiser way better
Anyone who gets a iphone is a very silly person.....Kaiser has so many apps. and programs that iphone doesn't
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mike
I'll take it farther - I'll take Windows over Mac any day.
Heck I'd rather use Win98 than latest Mac OS.
And this one time, at band camp..............
I would take Lepord over Vista and WM over OSX Mobile. Mac's win in the computer's side but not on the Mobile side.
you can keep ur kaiser and ur iphone.........my firefly pwns them both
Ahahaha, like that will ever happen. . .
haha..
the iphone...
i had 1.. also my uncle had 1..
we played... we had fun!!!...
but....
then it came sooo repetitive...
the same things always...
then i sold it...
and my uncle too =) ...
haha..
is just funny.. i had both devices..
well i have my kaiser because it has more apps, productivity and some Business Man Style.. iphone was for me more like a psp than a pda =)
*too the first 2 repliers**
i made this thread not to gain any new apps or prosper from, but just for talk. to hear opinions and compare the 2. yea there are other threads like it, but i dont find this thread pointless, perhaps it's just the wording I used.
so it appears most people went with the iphone and then they realized everything was the same. yea there are apps for Mac OS but not enough to make you wanna keep the phone. the emulators for the iphone arent that great either, all screen and not really stable.
ok.. for that is the off-topic so..
maybe a "Social Room" will solve things like this
i.e: a social room in kaiser section for kaiser users =)
Isaygarcia said:
ok.. for that is the off-topic so..
maybe a "Social Room" will solve things like this
i.e: a social room in kaiser section for kaiser users =)
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yes, but it will have 500303939 pages, which would get annoying...
ive seen another forum where on the front page there is some sort of IM thing, that would be nice. users just talk on the front page.
yes that would be great!!!.. it can be done with java.. can we do this mods? or admins?
btw, awesome page comparing the Iphone and the Nokia E70
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone (NSFW)
Ok Maybe there was another post on this before...
And I also had a quick look through the forums to see if theres already an area devoted to the Dream...
But I got to ask,
What the hell was the designer thinking as he or she was scribbling down sketches and design concepts for this phone?
Hardware great,
Android great [though missing fancy GUI like Touchflow3d and uses stranded android desktop],
Fanatic designs and aesthetically pleasing to look at. Oops missed that one.
What the hell where they thinking? It looks like a cheap third world country knock off. A design thats a throw back to the 80s of cream white and ugly buttons.
After the Touch series [diamond pro HD and 3G and Pearls or is it Pebble...] How on earth did they manage to get this one out of the design room?
Hardware wise its fairly similar to the touch pro, so they could of easily gone along the lines of the Touch pro design with Android implementation.
Also why didnt they change the default front end of android with a nicer one?
The whole phone and its development smells of being total rushed without any real thinking at every step.
[except the basic fundamentals like hardware support and driver support under android, everything else though is out the window]
Now I’m sure HTC engineers and designers occasionally look around this forum to test the water so to speak. I only wish they would come forward and explain themselves with this monstrosity, It had the potential to be something truly great. But now seems as if it would be brushed under the carpet.
Maybe im just mindlessly ranting. If thats the case just ignore me
Nutsy
NutsyUK said:
Ok Maybe there was another post on this before...
And I also had a quick look through the forums to see if theres already an area devoted to the Dream...
But I got to ask,
What the hell was the designer thinking as he or she was scribbling down sketches and design concepts for this phone?
Hardware great,
Android great [though missing fancy GUI like Touchflow3d and uses stranded android desktop],
Fanatic designs and aesthetically pleasing to look at. Oops missed that one.
What the hell where they thinking? It looks like a cheap third world country knock off. A design thats a throw back to the 80s of cream white and ugly buttons.
After the Touch series [diamond pro HD and 3G and Pearls or is it Pebble...] How on earth did they manage to get this one out of the design room?
Hardware wise its fairly similar to the touch pro, so they could of easily gone along the lines of the Touch pro design with Android implementation.
Also why didnt they change the default front end of android with a nicer one?
The whole phone and its development smells of being total rushed without any real thinking at every step.
[except the basic fundamentals like hardware support and driver support under android, everything else though is out the window]
Now I’m sure HTC engineers and designers occasionally look around this forum to test the water so to speak. I only wish they would come forward and explain themselves with this monstrosity, It had the potential to be something truly great. But now seems as if it would be brushed under the carpet.
Maybe im just mindlessly ranting. If thats the case just ignore me
Nutsy
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Mind your language dude......u might be upsetting readers here.....
Eh? saying something looks like a cheap knock off from a third world country is bad language? How?
chargedRam said:
Mind your language dude......u might be upsetting readers here.....
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Agree, please mind your languaje
we are a lot of people form third world countries like me...
I wouldn't call Mexico a third world country.
And the term at least over hear doesnt brand a country at all... nor am i identifying a country.
Simply that this phone design has the quality of cheap knock offs.
Sorry if i have managed to offend anyone that wasnt the intension...
So please keep on topic.
The HTC Dream is ugly...
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Ok Maybe there was another post on this before...
And I also had a quick look through the forums to see if theres already an area devoted to the Dream...
But I got to ask,
What the hell was the designer thinking as he or she was scribbling down sketches and design concepts for this phone?
Hardware great,
Android great [though missing fancy GUI like Touchflow3d and uses stranded android desktop],
Fanatic designs and aesthetically pleasing to look at. Oops missed that one.
What the hell where they thinking? It looks like a cheap third world country knock off. A design thats a throw back to the 80s of cream white and ugly buttons.
After the Touch series [diamond pro HD and 3G and Pearls or is it Pebble...] How on earth did they manage to get this one out of the design room?
Hardware wise its fairly similar to the touch pro, so they could of easily gone along the lines of the Touch pro design with Android implementation.
Also why didnt they change the default front end of android with a nicer one?
The whole phone and its development smells of being total rushed without any real thinking at every step.
[except the basic fundamentals like hardware support and driver support under android, everything else though is out the window]
Now I’m sure HTC engineers and designers occasionally look around this forum to test the water so to speak. I only wish they would come forward and explain themselves with this monstrosity, It had the potential to be something truly great. But now seems as if it would be brushed under the carpet.
Maybe im just mindlessly ranting. If thats the case just ignore me
Nutsy
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I read part of your post but am now ignoring the rest.
Should I go into the Blue Angel forum and start saying how I think it's an ugly piece of poop too, and what was HTC thinking? Seriously.. just your aesthetic opinion.. like everyone else.. let's not try and make it more then what it really is.
I think the dream looks nice. The white one is ok but the black one looks sexy. Also how is it rushed the phone has been in developement for over a year. That doesn't sound rushed to me. I for one can't wait for the phone and I'm going to get it the first day.
why dnt u make a phone yourself... since ur complaining about it.. or dnt even wrry bout it
briggs81 said:
I read part of your post but am now ignoring the rest.
Should I go into the Blue Angel forum and start saying how I think it's an ugly piece of poop too, and what was HTC thinking? Seriously.. just your aesthetic opinion.. like everyone else.. let's not try and make it more then what it really is.
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Heh Heh You said poop.
Ok guys, lets not be so sensitive about his statement.
And lets not make careless offensive statements.
Let's have fun and talk about how pretty the Dream is. (or isn't)
For real...why is everyone jumping all over this guy for an opinion? It's not as if he posted in the wrong forum.
I don't think it's ugly, but hey I have been known to wear stripes with plaid on occasion.
Well, everyone is entitles to an opinion and although I agree it is importnant to be careful how you phrase things, you are always entitled to your opinion. I have many friends from Mexico and lived there myself for a while. They all say the same thing. It is not that great when it comes to looks but I can say that I have had many pretty things that were only so so when then came to performance. I do not look at the cosmetic side as much as I do the performance. I would use a brick if it gave me the best performance and reliability. I just hope they don't jack the price too much...
Is it just me, or is this new windows 7 ugly as hell? With all the fuss being made about it, how they kept pushing back the release date, I expected MS to change the game. Basically all theyre giving us is a glorified integrated Mortscripts on a basic looking interface. Just because they spin a couple menus around when you press them doesnt make it high tech.
I presume you mean windows phone 7 based on the content.
I'm pretty certain, call me crazy, that windows phone 7 contains more then just a set of ui changes uses the tiles. I'm counting on a lot of features, and stable integration against my other Microsoft products?
I'm sure if you post this thread in the Windows Phone Section you may get a better reply for that.
And to answer your question - It is different, I am undecided if I am one for the tiles or not, but I can see it as something I would get used to and be able to quickly utilise. I mean, why else would people have made an app made to look like it for android, or why else would there be a winmo app out for the home screen. I'm sure some people like it, alot! I personally am looking forward to see what Microsoft have done for Windows Phone 7.
And if you mean windows 7, pc, I think that it kicks ass.....
Dont get me wrong,I'll always be a windows man,but Ive been coming here since 2004,yet nothing had our geeky mouths watering like the prospect of a completely revamped OS.Even if WM7 makes its official entrance,I think I'll stick around for an HTC mod like TouchFlo or something.
Also,I posted it on this forum so I wouldnt come across as one of those kiljoys that ruin perfectly good threads.
LOL, yeah, i do not what you mean, After I posted I did wonder if there would be a fair bit of flaming/arguing! I only suggested it for more a detailed response to the theming and stuff microsoft are throwing on, but then again, I do not doubt that you have already been watching that section.
I'm not sure how much HTC are allowed to skin the tiles/remove the tiles. At one point it was only meant to be a certain number of tiles allowed to be changed by the operator (I think, I concede I may be wrong though).
But then from reading pocket lint, it looks as though HTC have come up with this which to me looks pretty sweet to be honest. Nice simple and basic.
I am seriously thinking of getting one of the new HTC devices when it comes to contract renewal and seeing how I go with it for the first few days and see what my carrier will be willing to do for me.
I like WP7, but not the home screen. That title thing is ugly and whats with the wasted space on the top and right side? Just doesn't make sense.
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LOL, yeah, i do not what you mean, After I posted I did wonder if there would be a fair bit of flaming/arguing! I only suggested it for more a detailed response to the theming and stuff microsoft are throwing on, but then again, I do not doubt that you have already been watching that section.
I'm not sure how much HTC are allowed to skin the tiles/remove the tiles. At one point it was only meant to be a certain number of tiles allowed to be changed by the operator (I think, I concede I may be wrong though).
But then from reading pocket lint, it looks as though HTC have come up with this which to me looks pretty sweet to be honest. Nice simple and basic.
I am seriously thinking of getting one of the new HTC devices when it comes to contract renewal and seeing how I go with it for the first few days and see what my carrier will be willing to do for me.
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Now thats what Im talking about.HTC has rescued windows a lot of times from being obliterated by prettyfied devices like iPhone(HTC Cube,HTC Home,Manila,etc). Apple has proven many times that people care more about looks than functionality.
It does look a bit boring but 1+ would be that it is able to daulboot opensource os's Anyone know if bada is open source
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It does look a bit boring but 1+ would be that it is able to daulboot opensource os's Anyone know if bada is open source
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lol i don't know anything about bada but its probably a lot better than WP7 will be.
flyboyovyick said:
lol i don't know anything about bada but its probably a lot better than WP7 will be.
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Checked out the bada(bing) screenshots.Dont hear any talk about business functionality. Sad. But on that dualboot tip,Ive been toying with the idea of Linux for a while...
Vukile said:
Checked out the bada(bing) screenshots.Dont hear any talk about business functionality. Sad. But on that dualboot tip,Ive been toying with the idea of Linux for a while...
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Oh i hate it. Android FTW!!!
flyboyovyick said:
Oh i hate it. Android FTW!!!
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its no wonder android is taking up so much real estate in the OS market. what's up with this TouchXperience? Looks like it's setting up to monetise. Would have been nice to have... It looks like we'll be paying for everything soon, even themes. How nostalgic.
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its no wonder android is taking up so much real estate in the OS market. what's up with this TouchXperience? Looks like it's setting up to monetise. Would have been nice to have... It looks like we'll be paying for everything soon, even themes. How nostalgic.
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Makes you sad, doesn't it.
I remember the days when I used to develop themes for SE phones. ahhh those were the days
Hey apple realeased a phone with an ugly boring disorganised interface and people lapped it up. Cant blame microsoft for wanting to dip their bucket into this well of stupidity.
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Hey apple realeased a phone with an ugly boring disorganised interface and people lapped it up. Cant blame microsoft for wanting to dip their bucket into this well of stupidity.
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It's like that old fairytale about the Emperor's Clothes. Always wondered what that was about...
I've used already a Symbian phone, a Windows mobile phone, an iphone, and now I have an Android
But I see all the time one thing..
For any kind of phone, there is always some one that wants to turn-it in to any other kind of phone..
A windows phone to look-a-like a android, android to look-a-like a iphone, an iphone to look-a-like a windows etc etc...
I think each phone OS as it's own capabilities, and it's own virtues, good things and less good things.
I'm not a developer, but if I was one I think I would focus in improving the OS in things they are not so good.
It's just a thought, and for the one that do this look-a-like other phone thing, please do not be offended, it's was not my intention.
Thanks
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I really hate that, especially if it was an iphone-mac-windows look-a-like
umm ya know u dont have to install every last bad/tasteless theme if u dont want to
do you see others coming up and ranting about dragon ball themes ?
Yeah I always wondered about that. If you want that type of phone then why didn't you buy it in the first place right? Haha some people are crazy XD
So, Apples sues everyone under the moon, but takes every feature from Android, packages it up as some "magical" update and fanboys choke on .. edited this...
Wait, so... are all of the developers going to have to redo their apps to work on iOS 5... since it didnt have this notification bar earlier? Fragmentation?
I hate that the notification bar looks so good on iOS 5. Hate it, but you have to admit they made it better looking.
Moved this to my new Blog. If only I had this created before I made this rant.
Are details released already?
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So, Apples sues everyone under the moon, but takes every feature from Android, packages it up as some "magical" update and fanboys choke on the #*&% of Steve Jobs.
So annoyed.
Sorry.. not appropriate, had to vent.
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I know dude, they're basically taking everything we have, and even stuff from cydia!
I take it your watching the live stream also?
they even copied our vissual unlock thingy
Wow I was just reading about it. They are definitely copying a lot of things android has. Notification center??? Come on that's all android. Taking pictures with the volume button? Wow. Apple needs to stop taking android features and stick to ios crap..
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I really hope Jobs gets sued. I hate him with a passion.
How can they be suing companies (samsung) for not being innovative/taking their ideas... and be on stage introducing iOS5 as the latest/greatest when these feature are 3 years old on Android?
I don't know why, but Google REALLY should sue. If Microsoft gets $5 for every HTC Android device sold, Google should get $5 for every iOS device sold with iOS 5.
EDIT: LOLOL, THEY COPIED SENSE 3.0 WITH THE LOCKSCREEN WIDGETS THING. They're so ****ed.
EDIT2: Does anyone here think that Apple will try to sue Google for using "their" notification system?
Hey, look on the bright side. They still don't have Flash.
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Hey, look on the bright side. They still don't have Flash.
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xD
I mean, I have no problem with them having a ton of features that we have already, they need to learn that Android is superior, but the fact that Apple acts like they JUST came up with it is what pisses me off.
Well just saw and its nice to know that Apple is reintroducing android 1.5...
"sometimes to innovate, you have to copy."
-actual Gizmodo quote
They have been doing this for years! I remember back when iPhone first came out and they acted like web and email on your phone was a new thing. I had been doing it on Windows Mobile for years.
Am i missing something? No widgets???
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hahah its nice to know jobs running out of ideas....someone suggest him to make an
iAndroid app.....for easy access to android goodies....
On the brightside guys....ppl with iCrap can now actually be a tad happier. Imagine what it would be like if you were stuck wint iCrap and didn't have notifications and ppl you knew had that on Android. It felt almost as if you didn't have a smartphone.
Give them some slack.
Personally I see nothing wrong with taking other people's good ideas. I mean most PC operating systems are all based on the same digital ancestor. If I am trying to rip into an impenetrable bag a chips and see someone else do it well I will copy them and probably show other people something "I learned from that guy/gal over there". However...
Suing people who do something similar to you (especially in parallel research) is effed up. If they didn't go around patent trolling and suing everyone else in the business I would think "cool, good for iPhone folks", which i still believe, but at the same time I see Apple doing all these things and think "Fuuuuuu-!" especially when I think about a few months from now when they start a law suit to say someone pre-copied them or that after Apple copied them they continued doing it.
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I don't know why, but Google REALLY should sue. If Microsoft gets $5 for every HTC Android device sold, Google should get $5 for every iOS device sold with iOS 5.
EDIT: LOLOL, THEY COPIED SENSE 3.0 WITH THE LOCKSCREEN WIDGETS THING. They're so ****ed.
EDIT2: Does anyone here think that Apple will try to sue Google for using "their" notification system?
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...wait Microsoft gets money from HTC?
degeneration said:
Personally I see nothing wrong with taking other people's good ideas. I mean most PC operating systems are all based on the same digital ancestor. If I am trying to rip into an impenetrable bag a chips and see someone else do it well I will copy them and probably show other people something "I learned from that guy/gal over there". However...
Suing people who do something similar to you (especially in parallel research) is effed up. If they didn't go around patent trolling and suing everyone else in the business I would think "cool, good for iPhone folks", which i still believe, but at the same time I see Apple doing all these things and think "Fuuuuuu-!" especially when I think about a few months from now when they start a law suit to say someone pre-copied them or that after Apple copied them they continued doing it.
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Apple sued Samsung for a couple of logos, and the box around the logos(app drawer), basically. LOL
I am wondering how an OS that is "open source" and thrives on expansion and adaptation can sue anybody for taking a "feature" that is on just about everything. I think the sue'ing game has gotten way out of hand. Just make make your shot and if people want it they will buy it....
Oh and on another note. As far as re-introducing Android 1.5 features, I think they are just going to perfect it like they have most of their other stuff.
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