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Want to root, have some questions

Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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hackm0d said:
Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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you might get flamed for this or get this thread closed but i will try to help u.
1)while cyanogen is the best rom in my opinion, froyo is the ****. no matter what. and when cyanogen finally puts his touches on it, it will be even better.
3)no you cant keep them. u would have to be ROOTED first and then you can use titanium backup to make a backup or all your settings and freeze apps. til then, nope u have to completely wipe and start over again. i know when i switch from rom to rom, google automatically downloads the apps that i have had installed before i switch roms if that helps you any.
4)rooted phones are VERY stable and even faster than stock. more memory, runs smoother. the only one that might not run as smooth is the Desire Rom because of sense ui but i love sense ui and have it on my G1 but yes rooted phones are stable.
5)i have followed the instructions of this guide that was for macs tho. u have to be a bit specific if your on mac or pc

I'm using a PC.
And thanks for your input.
btw you didn't answer question 2. If I update to CM now, will I be able to update OTA when a Froyo version comes out?

hello guys!

Now that i have done the one click rooting to my phone"nexus one 2.2 Froyo with ""universal androot"" I was just wondering what would be the BEST rom to install on my phone.What advice would you give me with your experiences. what extra things do i need to consider putting on my phone. what would be a good security apps to hold intruders from getting in my phone..i have heard of overclocking but have no clue as to set it up and at what frequency...I would like to keep my hot-spot , perhaps increase the sound quality and have a 720 cap camera just to name a few.Any help would be greatly appreciated
Regards

I've got Cyanogenmod 6 on mine and I've loving it. Fast, stable, and looks great!

cool.now my question to you is where do i get a safe link to download and what are the steps to do so..thanks for your feed back

Go to Development section and read. Each ROM has a thread containing instructions for installation.
I suggest Enomther's ROM.

hey!!!
I am so happy.I tried into recovery mode but I could not find the rom there.did not know if i had to rename it or....anyways ...i went into the rom manager that I had downloaded from there the whole thing was self explanatory.I did download the cyanogenmod 6 fist and then the kernel .wow this is amazing .I wish I had done that a long long time ago.My contribution to this great team is on the way ang in the near future!! thanks guys!!

Nice going! Where did u find universal androot?

so if i use this on my unrooted nexus one 2.2, i can get root access apps?
Im not interested in custom roms just want to uninstall apps like amazon and twitter and use apps like titanium backup.
Will i receive OTA updates? and you can un-root right?

inhuman5000 said:
so if i use this on my unrooted nexus one 2.2, i can get root access apps?
Im not interested in custom roms just want to uninstall apps like amazon and twitter and use apps like titanium backup.
Will i receive OTA updates? and you can un-root right?
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Yes to all...see this thread for easy details & info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598

[Q] Tired of laggy performance on HERO

Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks

keep it stock if you like. thats how i did it at first. i rooted the stock stuff and deleted tons of sprint bloatware and the other useless apps; peep, teeter, gmail, socialnetworkprovider.apk...tons of stuff. after doing ONLY that, my device was faster and more responsive. ive never used a 'killer' of any sorts. linux is smart and you dont need 'killers'. of course, others may argue differently.
so head over to the dev forum and learn how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674833
edit: read, read, read. thats what i was told to do and i did. a lot of prep was required before rooting but if you follow the directions, it will go very smoothly

In my opinion, the two fastest ROMs here are
Darchdroid 2.8 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
and Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722122
But know that these two ROMs are based off Android only, and don't have the HTC Sense user-interface (in other words, they will look different than stock and have some different apps and features).
But first you will need to root your phone following these steps here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
After you root your phone, NANDROID BACKUP! Then you can try deleting apps like the post above mentions. See this post here about deleting apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976
If just doing that isn't good enough for you, try one of the two ROMs I posted above. I think you'll find that rooting your phone is a very wise and eye-opening decision

Lol chromiumleaf you didn't recommend the ROM in your sig
OP if you are willing to root and still want Sense UI, nfinitefx45's stock ROM is for you. If you follow the instructions you will basically run an over clocked (if you choose, but recommended), streamlined version of stock ROM + apps2sd (your choice, but recommended)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267

thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own

It sure it as I have also been reading, and one more thing incase you did not know and I don't believe it was mentioned in this thread you need to not be on the 2.1 .6 firmware, you need to downgrade to the .5 firmware to be able to root, I know it is in the instructions pasted by other but was just giving you a reminder incase you still have not done anything. Now if you did finally Root I would like to know how it went, as I am also almost ready to Root, tired of mine going into sleep mode and not responding, anyways it has been a while since you were suppose to have rooted, just curious how it went and how was your experience, and if you did finally go to a custom Rom which one did you go with??
don_walio said:
thank you all for quick replies and helpful pointers to the resources. Looks like rooting + deleting apps is the first step. I will try that. Btw hadnt relaized that custom ROMs is a world on its own
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don_walio said:
Folks: I have HERO and downloaded official 2.1 update earlier this summer. I was really hoping that issues like dialer lag and general "under-performance" feel on HERO would improve but I am still disappointed. I have still lot of time before I get eligible for a phone upgrade. I have no experience with rooting or custom ROMs. Would a HTC sense-less ROM help my case? I love the form-factor of this phone but lag just kills the experience.
I would really appreciate if someone can point me to step-by-step procedure on how to get a ROM on HERO that works lag-free.
thanks
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if you want to stay close to stock but be rooted id say use the stock rooted .6 rom with apps2sd. you could also use an oc kernel but i never found it did much for my phone. always use advance task killer and use a memory manager like autokiller and set it to aggressive or ultimate. my hero runs pretty good now. if your daring you could try the new froyo rom too.

update from android 2.3 to 4.0

Hi guys,
I m new to this forum and browsed a bit through it - hope this question is in the right place. I think it is a very basic question but I couldn t find a quick answer yet:
What will happen to my settings and apps of my current 2.3 android when I update to the coming 4.0? Will all my 2.3 apps work on 4.0?
Thanks alot and greetings,
Insi

well they will be wiped or not wiped dependin on the rom and your way of flashing i mean if the rom is no wipe everythin will remain as it was if not everythin will be wiped but dont worry as you are concerning about the apps download app restore and back up and restore [infolife] from market its the best free app for back up and restore of apps its free and very simple enjoy

insaner2 said:
Hi guys,
I m new to this forum and browsed a bit through it - hope this question is in the right place. I think it is a very basic question but I couldn t find a quick answer yet:
What will happen to my settings and apps of my current 2.3 android when I update to the coming 4.0? Will all my 2.3 apps work on 4.0?
Thanks alot and greetings,
Insi
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ICS will be entirely different than GB. so don't think apps will remain same after upgrading to ICS. but you can install it later after updating to ICS.
We should see how Samsung will release. i mean wipe or non-wipe. My guess is complete wipe.

I know Android is "Linux", and probably acts different, but
it's always been my experience that going from the "same" version of windows
via service packs, updates can be done with no wipe (XP>sp1>sp2), but
I've always had better luck, going from one version OS to another, (XP>Vista>7)
by WIPING everything clean and starting over.
I'm guessing going from GB 2.3>2.3.4>2.3.5 and so on would be like XP>sp1,
and going from GB 2.x to ICS 4.x would be like going from XP>7.
You get a better experience wiping so there are no left overs of the old code
still on the system.
When time comes for ICS for my Note, I'm wiping everything clean, not even going to bother backing up, just cataloging what's on my system, so I can install it
again....LOL, this will be one of those rainy weekend, nothing to do installs for
me.

p51d007 said:
I know Android is "Linux", and probably acts different
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That's stretching it... the Kernel has a Linux past history... but I wouldn't call it Linux.
Neither would any Linux dev's...

I'm sure a clean install would be a better option, hopefully Samsung give us the option so the phone is all pretty and new again

insaner2 said:
Hi guys,
I m new to this forum and browsed a bit through it - hope this question is in the right place. I think it is a very basic question but I couldn t find a quick answer yet:
What will happen to my settings and apps of my current 2.3 android when I update to the coming 4.0? Will all my 2.3 apps work on 4.0?
Thanks alot and greetings,
Insi
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If I get it right, you want to know if your current apps are compatible with ICS 4.0 system or not ?
I think it may or may not, depending on how Google builds their system. And what we can do is to back up all our apps with a reliable backup tools (like Titanimu BackUp). When ICS 4.0 comes, we'll try to restore them and see if they work or not!

thanks everybody for the information. I m a bit smarter now. I ll just wait until 4.0 is on the market and then read the forums again before I do any installation.

Dug out an old Tmo G1 with cyan 4, looking for a good daily driver rom.

My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.

EzGingerbread is very stable and eeks just about every last drop of speed the old G1 is capable of providing. The opening post of that thread has pretty extensive instructions.
He also provides links to older versions of apps that work well. Newer versions of some apps like Maps are just too bloated to run on the G1.

gossipninja said:
My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.
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Check out Royalknight6190s ROM Bible, and my recently posted G1 Oracle. I would recommend Feoyo by Laszlo, or any of the variants. Gingerbread is not a great idea on the G1. Take a look in the G1 XDA wiki for guides. Google's a good resource as well.
Do your own research if you want a ROM that lives up to your OWN personal needs. Which will probably be speed on a G1. So go for something old and lightweight.
Also, this is a development forum this thread should be in Q&A.

I agree that Froyo by Lazlo was a good build, but you will need to flash a different kernel over it - either Farmatito's or EZTerry's. There's a known battery drain bug with the stock kernel.

thanks for the input guys, I finally hunted down the old hboot and danger spl files, as well as a tiny gapps and have cm6.1 on it.
I might have to add in the EZTERRY 14mb hack, but that will have to come later.