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Touchscreen Problem(and others)

recently i have been having a lot of problems with my phones. when i bought the phone it was great until about a month ago the accelerometer got messed up and everything went into landscape for no reason, so after two weeks of dealing with that problem i called t-mo and they had me go through the usual troubleshooting steps which i had already tried. they asked if the phone was rooted and i acted like i had no idea what that meant, and they sent a replacement(refurb) about a week into using the refurb i was having really bad battery life of about 20 minutes, i called t-mo again and told them my battery was shot and what was going on. they decided that the phone was broke but they would send me another battery as well.
then i got the phone 4 days ago and it seems now that the touchscreen is going out. i went to pull my notification bar down cause i had an email and my app bar came up, when i tried to close it nothing happened. right now it seems that the entire screen thinks i am touching 3 inches below where i am and so i have been using the phone without touching the screen(not fun), so i called t-mo again. first thing they asked me was if the touchscreen not working was inhibiting my everyday use of the phone, obviously it is affecting my usage of the phone since i got it because it was a touchscreen. t-mo told me after a few minutes of looking up my info that since they have sent three phones out(even though i told them not to on one of them) that i have to take it up with HTC. HTC is telling me that i have to take it up with t-mo. if i am not mistaken all refurbs come with either a 90 day warranty or the remainder of the one year on the original phone whichever comes first. i know there are some t-mo employees here, so please tell me who i should talk to or what i should say to get my phone fixed, this is ridiculous that i got the rufurb and it doesn't even work. aren't they supposed to test each one before they send it out?
thanks in advance guys

Yes they are suppose to test it out but those big companies... ahhh. I'm convinced that T-Mobile should be the company you should talk to for a replacement. They should provide you with another one since it's within the 90 day warranty. If they tell you to talk to HTC tell them HTC told you to talk to them. Not much but I can say Hope you have better luck!

Sounds tough dude! I've been lucky enough to always have re-furbs work for me, but sounds like you're not having my luck :/.
I have an insurance plan with T-Mobile, $7 a month, and lets you replace your phone, no questions asked, anytime you want. You can try seeing if you want to sign up for that and then they take care of it through the company that does the insurance for T-Mobile, and skips HTC and T-Mobile altogether.

Best to call T-Mobile and get them to get in touch with HTC direct to try and solve the issue.
As for the screen always going to Landscape mode, this used to happen to me. I figured out a fix when I noticed the Fancy Animation setting was causing the issue in Spare Parts. I disabled it and the screen was auto-rotating fine.
After disabling the Fancy animations in the settings too and then re-enabling them back and in Spare Parts, all was well.

Lying to T-Mobile to get your bricked G1 fixed?

So, I just got my G1 back after it stayed for a week in this Chinese repair shop. The Chinese men were not successful.
I'm just about to leave for the T-Mobile store. After I figure whether the warranty is in effect, I will come up with a clever reuse to trick the T-Mo man into sending in my brick for repair.
What's the best lie to tell?

Hi,
I was too careless to follow directions and ended up bricking my phone.
Can you give another G1, so I can do the same?
thanks

I'm afraid that won't work. Unless I pay the salesman like $50 to keep his mouth shut.

Just tell them you got an OTA and it never booted back up. Must have been a corrupt download or something.

So I can just tell them I was updating to cupcake and it won't boot?

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Just tell them you got an OTA and it never booted back up. Must have been a corrupt download or something.
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This is the best one. It's more efficient if you do it over the phone.
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Why not call them now? Pop your fraudulently-bricked-phone-returned-under-warranty cherry.
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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking of just going to the store, since it's on my way to work. What's the downside of telling them in person?

nasman1993 said:
So I can just tell them I was updating to cupcake and it won't boot?
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Pretty much, just leave out the "I was updating.." bit. Blame the phone. "It said there was an update available. I hit OK, and it went dark..."
wddglr has a good idea about calling to save the trip. And a funny quote too.
EDIT: Missed your reply. Well, I don't have a store within an hour of me, so I would always wind up calling. If you have the choice though.. Might be easier to pull it off without worrying about the look on your face. Not sure of any other downsides, since I never deal with any stores.

Alright thanks so much. Since it's on my way to work, I'll just stop by at the T-Mo store and tell them. Hopefully my warranty is still in effect...

I literally just went through this if you've had you're g1 for less than a year just call tech support and they will send you a new one free of charge (you might have to pay the shipping depending on your insurence plan) good luck.

Thanks for the reply Supergoat. WAIT, you have to have an insurance plan to get it repaired?!?! Warranty alone doesn't work?!?!

I think he's implying that you might need to pay for shipping on warranty swaps if you don't have insurance. Not that you need insurance for the warranty itself.
And I think that only applies on the phone anyway.. I've heard stories of people swapping in person, doubt they'd charge shipping then. Good luck.

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I think he's implying that you might need to pay for shipping on warranty swaps if you don't have insurance. Not that you need insurance for the warranty itself.
And I think that only applies on the phone anyway.. I've heard stories of people swapping in person, doubt they'd charge shipping then. Good luck.
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This may be a stupid question, but do you have to return the old one?

I just got off the phone with them, and they told me they can't do anything since I bought the phone from craigslist. He gave me HTC's phone number and told me to call them, since they will be able to do something. I'll call tomorrow morning since they're closed now, and see what they say. The T-Mobile representative said he doesn't know how much they'll charge or if they'll charge me at all. Hopefully this works out.

I had a similar situation since I also bought my phone off craigslist. HTC kinda gives you that threatening if they notice anything was modified on the phone you get charged bit. I was fortunately able to downgrade the phone to an RC29 (are you sure you shouldn't be attempting to throw that on instead of 7) then I upgraded it up with normal rc33 then cupcake. They took it and replaced my mainboard (my phone was overheating and unable to charge a battery fortunately the T-Mobile star gave me one of the stores batterys from a display device which gave me enough time to downgrade and get back up to cupcake) and didn't charge me anything so I lucked out. Goodluck!

I just got off the phone with HTC. Before I bricked my G1, it was RC29. They sent me shipping instructions and everything, and said I should be paying only for shipping, and $39 or less for repair. Hopefully everything goes well. I'll post my results.

Sometimes you can lie and say you bought the phone from a tmobile authorized dealer and they will swap it out. Just say it was a t a booth in the mall. This has worked for me in the past.
Also for the info on TMobiles warranty policy, if the phone was bought from them or a authorized dealer they will replace the phone for free, if you tell them the thing won't turn on they will not make you go thru more then taking out the battery and SD Card then putting the battery back in. If you tell them the phone will power on they walk you thru a bunch of steps. On a couple of my exchanges the rep sent me out a new phone, battery and wall charger.
You do have to send the broken one back, they send you a shipping label with the refurb phone they send you. Within the first year of owning a new phone with TMobile, insurance is only used if the phone is lost/stolen, water damaged, you broke it on purpose or you tell them strait out "i was flashing the newest JACHero ROM and blam it bricked!"

just call and say your phone isnt working. thye will try to wipe it, tell them its not working. they will send you a box with the new phone. you send back th eother one. dont say **** you dont have to. just keep it simple. DO NOT TELL THEM ITS ROOTED.

Well I'm going to ship it to HTC today, and they should be replacing it for free (I hope). I did go through HTC with this, not T-Mobile. T-Mo kicked me after I told them I didn't buy it from them. I told HTC I bought it from a private seller and they were like "ok that's cool."

I too once freaked out (not to be confused with my earlier freekeout) when my JFroot-to-cyanogen-to-hero theme went AWRY, and bricked at the g1 logo....
I sat there thinking of how much I screwed this one up, and promptly realized that insurance covers anything....and yes I will say, ANYTHING.
there is no limit to a customers stupidity
so without hesitation i made my 13 minute drive.
waited 10 minutes for a tmobile rep. explained that i booted up my phone this morning and it never booted after 2 hours of pocket time....also threw in that ive been on hold for a good hour restarting and trying differnt tricks...
without any hesitation, she typed up a few things, checked in the back and i was onm my way....
she said that if anything happens to bring it back, and if the next 3 brick aswell, then they will automagically give me a NEW phone....IE DIFFERENT model...as to keep who she repeatedly referred to me as a good "customer" happy
so im psyched. they don't know how lucky they were. and my new (seemingly) faster dream are back at it...
just biding time for that XDA app to get out of beta (or atleast become more stabile)

WTF HTC!?! I think my screens almost dead....

hmmm... ok, let me have some opinions on this, I am running fresh 2.3.3, oc 710, clear lock screen. At about 12 noon yesterday my touch screen stopped responding, BUT only at the top exactly where the notification bar is, I know this because I turned on Nexus Revamped Pro LWP and in settings I set the particles to spawn where I touch, I have not been able to pull down my notification bar since yesterday! Ok, stop and think of how inconvenient that is! Anyways, I have gone so far now as to wipe everything and go back to stock fresh 2.3.3(no kernel or any theming) and it still wont work, oh, sometimes when I go to hit the phone soft key(bottom of screen) THE DAMN NOTIFICATION BAR JUMPS DOWN! I am going nuts trying to solve this, the phone was dropped once two days after I got it(almost a year ago) and it has had a Zagg screen protector on it until yesterday because I thought that it might be causing the problem. So there is my rant with some information on the problem stuck in there, anyone have any ideas let me know before tomorrow morning, I will have to go back to stock and unroot so I can go to Best Buy(not so Best Buy) to exchange it.

Wrong forum, try a different rom. but I would unroot and take it back
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oops!! my bad, mod please move it! this is set as my home page I forgot to click Q&A section!

I had the same problem a few few months ago. The same thing with the notification bar would not slide down, but if you press anywhere on the screen it will. I dealt with for a day or two until I couldn't take it anymore. I reverted back to stock 2.1 and went to the sprint store to get it fixed. The technicians there never heard about this problem and they couldn't fix it. Luckily I was still under a 1 year HTC warrenty, so they just exchanged it with no problem. Hope this helps you out, and good luck.
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pinoy724 said:
I had the same problem a few few months ago. The same thing with the notification bar would not slide down, but if you press anywhere on the screen it will. I dealt with for a day or two until I couldn't take it anymore. I reverted back to stock 2.1 and went to the sprint store to get it fixed. The technicians there never heard about this problem and they couldn't fix it. Luckily I was still under a 1 year HTC warrenty, so they just exchanged it with no problem. Hope this helps you out, and good luck.
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Well, I tried 4 roms and stock 1.5 and 2.1 today and finally unrooted back to 1.5, I still am within my one year HTC warranty, I payed for a warranty at best buy(boooo!) and I happen to be out of town right now, so I go to the store here and they try to tell me I am not paying for the replacement program or warranty, AND I HAD ALL MY PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF THEM, so they finally said no we wont exchange it but we will send it off, it will be 3-4 weeks and we aren't giving you a loaner, so I said no and they gave me a special receipt and told me to go to any Sprint store and they would replace it....ANOTHER LIE, I went to FOUR stores scattered across Houston until a store even looked at it, I explained the issue and the said ok our tech will replace your screen or we will give you a new one it will be 30 min., ANOTHER LIE, 2 hours and 26 min later I was handed my phone by the tech and told that he had updated me to 2.1 and that my phone was fine, LIE. FIRST of all my screen wouldnt even unlock by touch(had to menu, menu) second I could still not get a proper response from my screen or even touch the T.B., second as soon as I turned the screen on it asked me to DOWNLOAD THE UPDATE, he didnt address the problem that he was told was there, he lied about doing the update, I lost it on this lazy ass, so he took my phone again, had it for under 3 min this time, brought it back and said here I updated it, I cant fix it, I cant give you one from our stock, you will have one in 3-4 days, again no loaner, THE UPDATE WAS STILL NOT EVEN DOWNLOADED, AND ONLY HALF OF MY BATTERY COVER WAS ATTACHED,I AM 376 MILES FROM MY WIFE AND 2 KIDS WITH NO PHONE. So at this point I just want to say, F*@# Sprint and F*@# Best Buy, I pay thousands a year for warrantys and bills, have payed at least the double the retail of my phone just in insurance(between our two lines) and you A$$'s reniged on everything that extra I pay for, when I do get my new one I will be canceling all insurance and warrantys and in 5 months when my contract is up IM GONE, you people have never done anything to honor your customer service agreements and I dont think I have ever heard anyone with a positive experience, SO F*@# YOU!!!! Ok my rant is done, just wanted to say to anyone even considering Sprint, dont do it unless you have the cash to just buy a new phone at full price if anything happens, they will screw you any way possible, been with them for coming up 5 years and they dont give a damn about anyone, RUN AWAY WHILE YOU CAN.

The actions of few almost never speak for the quality and character of All.
I've never had a problem with my service that wasn't resolved within an hour and a half by a sprint representative. I used to have the rumor and I soaked it once(replaced), my mother broke her screen and got it replaced, one time my charger port got so jacked up that they had to give me a new phone and the Rep offered to give me his old phone, ofcourse I said no and thanked him but that shows there are good folk in the company we have been buying service from for the better part of a decade.

I would gladly change my opinion if I ever saw a change in how they handle my wife and I as customers, I have just not seen it... OH, PLEASE tell me what store to go to, seriously, no sarcasm, I will go if its close(houston area), it is just very stressful and insulting to pay what we pay believing that they will hold up their end and being openly lied to...I know that my little flame out does not speak for everyone, it just helps to get it out.....XDA Group Therapy LMAO

I don't think I will ever buy a phone from best buy... If you try and have any warranty service done it seems to be a hassle for must people. Luckily I by my phones directly from sprint and I've never had a problem.
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Ok, last update on my situation, I will try not to freak out, I am highly upset.
So, after days with a non-functioning phone, I go to the store and first of all, why does it take 15 min to walk behind the counter and pick up a packaged phone when I am the only customer in the store? OK, so my "New" phone came in, great right, wrong! I take care of my things, I am an adult that likes nice things and cant afford many, so when I get something I want I take extremely good care of it, my Hero was immaculate, spotless, and I have had it since a couple month after release, what they brought me was ****, it has scratches all over the screen(which is funny because he made a big deal asking me if I wanted the "screen plastic" taken off), the back cover has scratches on it, the back cover has a crack in it and is warped to the point that it will not stay on completely and there is a gap between the back cover and the phone, the metal band around the phone is loose, the hardware buttons are lose, I dont know who would call this a new phone but the poor thing has been badly abused, I almost feel bad for this poor Hero. So there it is, my experience yet again with Sprint and best buy. I feel like with the amount of money that I have payed total for "insurance" I should not be given a trashed piece of hardware. Sprint, is not all bad, I personally just have not had a good experience with them. Just be careful people.

[Q] Random power off

Hey guys,
Firstly, I will admit from the start my phone has been dropped a couple of times but from around knee height at most...
I bought a contract, of which I am 2 months into, and in the last 2 weeks my phone keeps turning off randomly and wont turn on. Only sometimes when I remove the battery and sim card even, that it turns back on again. Its really frustrating, especially that I'm moving home in the next few weeks and agencies cant call me.
I am wondering if I can somehow go to the store of the company I bought it from and ask for a new one or a different phone?
I am happy to pay the difference for a galaxy note 2 dare I say which was my original choice but the LG was £10 less a month. Only thing is I purchased it online?
Many thanks to any help or advice on what might be causing this?!
Marc

mS_Design said:
Hey guys,
Firstly, I will admit from the start my phone has been dropped a couple of times but from around knee height at most...
I bought a contract, of which I am 2 months into, and in the last 2 weeks my phone keeps turning off randomly and wont turn on. Only sometimes when I remove the battery and sim card even, that it turns back on again. Its really frustrating, especially that I'm moving home in the next few weeks and agencies cant call me.
I am wondering if I can somehow go to the store of the company I bought it from and ask for a new one or a different phone?
I am happy to pay the difference for a galaxy note 2 dare I say which was my original choice but the LG was £10 less a month. Only thing is I purchased it online?
Many thanks to any help or advice on what might be causing this?!
Marc
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A couple drops shouldn't cause this unless you're really unlucky, I dropped mine from the bench on the second day of owning it and freaked though luckily not a mark on it. I would say it's probably a fault so yeah try and return it, if it's bought online get in touch with the customer service team, most sites will have the phone number somewhere or it may be on your invoice. Check for damage or loose connections around the battery first though, good luck!
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@non4 said:
I would say it's probably a fault so yeah try and return it, if it's bought online get in touch with the customer service team, most sites will have the phone number somewhere or it may be on your invoice. Check for damage or loose connections around the battery first though, good luck!
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I was looking around the device but nothing is visible. I went to carphone warehouse store and they said they have to send it to LG. I will be able to tell if its a replacement or not as mine had a little dink taken out of the frame..ahh well, now two weeks of waiting to do.
They offered me a replacement phone as I went to leave like they forgot and I got a simple looking Samsung with chunky buttons! XD love retro style!
Thankyou for the advice,
Marc

mS_Design said:
I was looking around the device but nothing is visible. I went to carphone warehouse store and they said they have to send it to LG. I will be able to tell if its a replacement or not as mine had a little dink taken out of the frame..ahh well, now two weeks of waiting to do.
They offered me a replacement phone as I went to leave like they forgot and I got a simple looking Samsung with chunky buttons! XD love retro style!
Thankyou for the advice,
Marc
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You're welcome! When I was with carphone I brought in my HTC desire z (now drowned in the toilet one drunken night) Because it was not receiving messages, and I had updated it to 2.2.1 which made it impossible to root. When I came back to the store after my holiday I was thrilled to find a brand new phone (gave me the old backplate back though, cheapskates) with the original rootable 2.2! I proceeded to root and flash my first ever ROM, cm7, crapped myself cos I bricked it, then realized I had just forgot to wipe data! Booted into cm7 and never looked back, I can't stand unrooted devices! hopefully they send you a new one, that sort of fault usually does get a new one as its hard to detect the source of the issue, good luck!
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HTC First Bricked!

Alright so my gf got this phone as an upgrade from an iPhone 3GS because it was 99 cent and she wanted Android. The phone is completely stock with the facebook features turned off. Last night it wouldn't cut on because she thought it had a dead battery. Upon waking up and checking it this morning, after being on the charger all night, the phone will not boot. The most I can get it to do is boot into HBOOT but it freezes when you select factory reset and it will now load to the FB symbol that comes up when you first cut it on but it freezes there as well. I have found no way to get it to boot up fully.
Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone have a way to fix this issue?
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Brad624 said:
Alright so my gf got this phone as an upgrade from an iPhone 3GS because it was 99 cent and she wanted Android. The phone is completely stock with the facebook features turned off. Last night it wouldn't cut on because she thought it had a dead battery. Upon waking up and checking it this morning, after being on the charger all night, the phone will not boot. The most I can get it to do is boot into HBOOT but it freezes when you select factory reset and it will now load to the FB symbol that comes up when you first cut it on but it freezes there as well. I have found no way to get it to boot up fully.
Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone have a way to fix this issue?
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First I head of this. Now since you got this for $.99 you must be on a contract. Does ATT have a warranty? I would assume at least 90 days even with no extended warranty, so you can just go into a store and get a new one seeing as the phone came out in mid April.
Being as you can access hboot, I would assume it is a softbrick and that you may be able to flash something if you wish.
Easiest path would be for a replacement

edxmon said:
First I head of this. Now since you got this for $.99 you must be on a contract. Does ATT have a warranty? I would assume at least 90 days even with no extended warranty, so you can just go into a store and get a new one seeing as the phone came out in mid April.
Being as you can access hboot, I would assume it is a softbrick and that you may be able to flash something if you wish.
Easiest path would be for a replacement
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Thanks for the quick response. I was thinking the same thing of taking it back to AT&T to get it replaced. Also, though I am able to get into HBOOT and FASTBOOT, once there the phone only restarts HBOOT if I select BOOTLOADER. As well, I have tried the RUU for the new update but once it tries to reboot the phone to put it into BOOTLOADER it freezes on a black screen and the RUU updater app encounters an error while trying to reboot into BOOTLOADER. The nearest AT&T store is about 15 miles away and I don't really want to have to drive there to get the phone replaced but it is looking more and more like that is my only option because I can't get the phone fixed any other way.

Brad624 said:
Thanks for the quick response. I was thinking the same thing of taking it back to AT&T to get it replaced. Also, though I am able to get into HBOOT and FASTBOOT, once there the phone only restarts HBOOT if I select BOOTLOADER. As well, I have tried the RUU for the new update but once it tries to reboot the phone to put it into BOOTLOADER it freezes on a black screen and the RUU updater app encounters an error while trying to reboot into BOOTLOADER. The nearest AT&T store is about 15 miles away and I don't really want to have to drive there to get the phone replaced but it is looking more and more like that is my only option because I can't get the phone fixed any other way.
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I know the phone only cost you "99 cents" but are you really worried about wasting time and gas driving there? you could make it worth your while:
This phone is worth $450 unlocked. Go to the store and get it replaced ASAP or you'll be sitting on a very fancy 99 cent paper weight or a useless $450 phone, which ever way you want to see it.
Get the phone replaced and sim unlock it from ATT with the instructions in this forum. Sell the phone on Craigslist for $100-350, use that money to get an Atrix 4G/Pantech Burst/ etc, any phone around $100 and keep the $99-$349 profit OR just have a brand new working phone. Either way you see it it's worth the 15 mile drive so don't lag on getting this phone replaced.

edxmon said:
I know the phone only cost you "99 cents" but are you really worried about wasting time and gas driving there? you could make it worth your while:
This phone is worth $450 unlocked. Go to the store and get it replaced ASAP or you'll be sitting on a very fancy 99 cent paper weight or a useless $450 phone, which ever way you want to see it.
Get the phone replaced and sim unlock it from ATT with the instructions in this forum. Sell the phone on Craigslist for $100-350, use that money to get an Atrix 4G/Pantech Burst/ etc, any phone around $100 and keep the $99-$349 profit OR just have a brand new working phone. Either way you see it it's worth the 15 mile drive so don't lag on getting this phone replaced.
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Alright so yeah went ahead and drove to the AT&T store only to be told we would need to go to the warranty center if we wanted it replaced. So they called the warranty center, before sending us over there, to see if they had one to give us as replacement but it turns out they didn't even have one there to give us a replacement. So then they told us that the only option now is to call the warranty number and have one mailed out. Meaning my gf now has to wait until Monday at the latest before she will have a working phone. Or they offered to let her PAY for a loaner phone to use until she got a replacement. Needless to say that I am beyond pissed with AT&T and their lack of willing to help a long term customer get her phone replaced without having to jump through hoops and wait days without a phone because of a problem that wasnt even my gf's fault in the first place.

Brad624 said:
Alright so yeah went ahead and drove to the AT&T store only to be told we would need to go to the warranty center if we wanted it replaced. So they called the warranty center, before sending us over there, to see if they had one to give us as replacement but it turns out they didn't even have one there to give us a replacement. So then they told us that the only option now is to call the warranty number and have one mailed out. Meaning my gf now has to wait until Monday at the latest before she will have a working phone. Or they offered to let her PAY for a loaner phone to use until she got a replacement. Needless to say that I am beyond pissed with AT&T and their lack of willing to help a long term customer get her phone replaced without having to jump through hoops and wait days without a phone because of a problem that wasnt even my gf's fault in the first place.
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Dang man, that blows but really it's not that bad to wait a few days. Do you have an old sim card phone you can use? You can pick something up on CL for a few dollars to hold you until monday. My side income is selling phones and sometimes I even sell the phone I'm using right now and go back to an old w810i candybar phone I have lying around. Take it as a rude awakening to how dependent we are on smartphones now a days. Just get the phone into the repair center. The sooner you do the sooner you get a working phone back.

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Dang man, that blows but really it's not that bad to wait a few days. Do you have an old sim card phone you can use? You can pick something up on CL for a few dollars to hold you until monday. My side income is selling phones and sometimes I even sell the phone I'm using right now and go back to an old w810i candybar phone I have lying around. Take it as a rude awakening to how dependent we are on smartphones now a days. Just get the phone into the repair center. The sooner you do the sooner you get a working phone back.
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Funny u mention that I just got this phone for 40 dollars on craigslist!!! I do the same thing. I just got a s4 for 230 and I'm going to sell it on ebay
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